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GamerGallade
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1/11/2016
Puts rattus faber on list

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(I deeply apologize for the rattus faber decision. so much hate.)
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I just noticed if you try to record "why is it so easy to get lost in Fallen London?" The title changes to "What are they trying to hide?"
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Parelle
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1/11/2016
No hate, just clarification! And I remember thinking the same about that rat for a long time until I got more accustomed to the mechanics.

That said, I'd argue except for a Fate available action, Rooms over a Dusty Bookshop are a 1 scrap 3 card lodging with no making waves bonus item.
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Mordaine Barimen
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1/11/2016
No hate, just clarifying. It can really help out, if you know how to use it. Otherwise it's a whiskered menace as you first thought.

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Lady Sapho Byron
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1/11/2016
No hate intended! Explication and teasing, but not hate.

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MidnightVoyager
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1/11/2016
You need leg irons for one of the options on the skeleton key to increase your criminal connections.

Or was it manacles? One of those.

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GamerGallade
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1/11/2016
Okay. I was just kind of irked because even after I changed it after the 3 "useful" comments with nobody saying "not useful" the standard I was using for changes, the rattus faber comments refused to stop.
edited by GamerGallade on 1/11/2016

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I just noticed if you try to record "why is it so easy to get lost in Fallen London?" The title changes to "What are they trying to hide?"
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Mordaine Barimen
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1/11/2016
You need both, plus Ragged Clothing, MidnightVoyager.

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1/11/2016
Besides the fate-locked, Mahogany Hall and one-time uses examples in Ambitions of the hats/bottles on the previous replies, An outlandish outfit is needed should you not want to spend the high-cost Respectable way. As you can see, these items are also still used by many veteran players, besides the hat of course. The fate way was just a non-grinding-for-more-items-bought option when you play the advancement card to PoSI. That reward I cannot discuss as it too is Fate-Locked.


Back before Mr. Sacks was twelve days, you could offer him a Ridiculous Hat to remove Nightmares. That was only four years ago, or two years into the game's start.


So while limited, the Ridiculous Hat is not worthless to buy at the Bazaar. They will need to be bought even if only a few times, and can be bought for a few optional other times.
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Grenem
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1/11/2016
GamerGallade wrote:
Okay. I was just kind of irked because even after I changed it after the 3 "useful" comments with nobody saying "not useful" the standard I was using for changes, the rattus faber comments refused to stop.
edited by GamerGallade on 1/11/2016

Sorry, a lot of people- like me- load up the forum on the bus, read, start to write a reply, forget, post it later. sorry.

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Sara Hysaro
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1/11/2016
Mordaine Barimen wrote:
You need both, plus Ragged Clothing, MidnightVoyager.


Nope, just the Iron Legs. You need 5 Pairs of Iron Legs, 500 Greyfields 1879, 50 Ragged Clothing, 100 Stolen Correspondence, 15 Renown, and 7 Criminal Favours.

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Toper
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1/11/2016
Really, the Blunderbuss? What do people get instead? I used mine for weeks until I could afford an Ancient Hunting Rifle, and have no regrets. Especially since it has the funniest description and sell message in the game.
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TheThirdPolice
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1/11/2016
Actually the Rattus Faber is –– just kidding.

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Kittenpox
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1/11/2016
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Finally, I find that a set of manacles or leg irons lends a certain curiosity-piquing panache to one's mantelpiece.

*looks at your profile, and sure enough...*
Seems like someone has an interesting evening prepared! wink

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Optimatum
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1/11/2016
Bottled Oblivion is useful if you for whatever reason do want to lower stats. I'd imagine this as being mostly applicable to high-level characters who want to see everything, even failures, for completion's (or the wiki's) sake. Though some others might just want the effect in general - I'm not naming any names here, but a certain NiteBrite could elaborate.

Bottled Oblivion also does have a rare success which provides an Eyeless Skull and Searing Enigma as a bonus. In fact, for a while this was an incredible method of grinding money before the chance was lowered!

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thedeadlymoose
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1/11/2016
Not trying to rub it in, just want to clarify since I'm not sure it's been mentioned explicitly yet -- one of the reasons the Talkative Rattus Faber is so valuable is because you can use it to drop challenges to Low-Risk (90%) so you get 2CP per success instead of 1 (for Straightforward -- 91%-100%). For some people, this comes up every week when they go into the Nadir, get their stats dropped one or two levels, then go to a place like Wilmot's End (or the Affair of the Box grind for Shadowy) to raise their stats back up to the level cap. The TRF makes this go twice as fast by providing an easy way to make those challenges Low-Risk rather than Straightforward. In other words, it's one of the most important items in the game for many players.

I can understand it looking like an outright joke item, though. Certainly, that was my first reaction to seeing it in the store.

I've used the Blunderbuss early on for most of my characters, for weeks at least. Echoes are hard to come by, early game. It's hardly useless at 0.5 echoes, when the next option is 12.80 echoes for Dangerous +2, which you could spend on a host of other things and get more benefit than an extra point in Dangerous. (I also love the text, as Toper mentioned).

I've used ridiculous hats and bottled oblivion a very few times, to lower my stats within range of something or other. (They differ due to the particular stats which they drop.)

I never used the Ragged Clothing because I just used the Rough Gown or the Maidservant's Uniform instead to get the -1 Persuasive (while also getting a +2 in another stat). Works as a roleplaying item, though.

Never used the irons, of course; I assume they're just sold in the Bazaar for completionists who sold their first ones early on. Not a bad reason to offer them.

As for the scuffed boots... no idea. I admit I always found it strange that the scuffed boots didn't have any modifiers on them at all. Persuasive +1 would've made sense.

All these items are worth less than 1 echo, though. If you buy them, the consequences are very mild indeed.

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Erika
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1/11/2016
Optimatum wrote:
Bottled Oblivion is useful if you for whatever reason do want to lower stats. I'd imagine this as being mostly applicable to high-level characters who want to see everything, even failures, for completion's (or the wiki's) sake. Though some others might just want the effect in general - I'm not naming any names here, but a certain NiteBrite could elaborate.

Bottled Oblivion also does have a rare success which provides an Eyeless Skull and Searing Enigma as a bonus. In fact, for a while this was an incredible method of grinding money before the chance was lowered!

WhaaaaAAAt? I don't get mentioned? What about my signature... I'll just go elsewhere....

Anyways, I drank a lot of Oblivion and stared at a *lot* of eyeless skulls (around 50, which is why the "bottles of oblivion" bit in my sig, oblivion+skulls) so I could fail some challenges and see what happens when you fail fate content, it's fantastic.

The hat isn't really useful unless you want to tank persuasive and nothing else.

Oh, and Oblivion doesn't give out Searing Enigmas and Eyeless Skulls anymore, it was removed on account of new players could buy Oblivion, drink it at no stat downside and quickly get a hundred echoes within 20 actions or something (breaking the economy).

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metasynthie
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1/11/2016
A new account can still get 100 echoes in 20 actions without doing anything... it just takes five months! (And that's not even counting the Antique Mysteries from Trade Secrets...) Nyuk nyuk nyuk. I'm curious how that broke the economy though... 10-echo gifts?

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malthaussen
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1/11/2016
The minor stat-reduction items can also be used to lower your stats below 100 to permit your patron to train you one more time. That's a limited use, so the only reason to have them permanently is aesthetic.

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Erika
Erika
Posts: 528

1/11/2016
metasynthie wrote:
A new account can still get 100 echoes in 20 actions without doing anything... it just takes five months! (And that's not even counting the Antique Mysteries from Trade Secrets...) Nyuk nyuk nyuk. I'm curious how that broke the economy though... 10-echo gifts?

Asides from being able to buy your way through everything, you could also ferry the Eyeless Skulls onto a different account.

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GamerGallade
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1/11/2016
I am thinking of adding a small list to the end of items with a few uses, because the ragged clothing and leg irons do have uses. Leg irons may go off the list, but ragged clothing can be obtained fairly easily from bundles of oddities, thus should not be bought.

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I just noticed if you try to record "why is it so easy to get lost in Fallen London?" The title changes to "What are they trying to hide?"
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