navchaa
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2/3/2016
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I'm not doing the Noman marathon this year, and probably not ever, given the possible bell curve. I have two alts who are quite happy to give out free evenings, and my main will be back from zee towards the end of the week. PM me if you need any help with MW or anything else.
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metasynthie
Posts: 645
2/3/2016
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I'm happy to donate all my Free Evenings and as many coffees as you need towards a marathoner's Making Waves; PM me if I appear to be out of Evenings (I'm full on them right now and will be again on Thursday afternoon) and I'll put you in touch with an alt.
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RandomWalker
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2/3/2016
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Stroller and Third Walker are always happy to donate available free evenings, or a point of notability.
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colinsapherson
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2/3/2016
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You guys are great, and this is restoring my faith in my ability to do the marathon! I'll be approaching you all in-game with coffee, dinner and notability requests!
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TheThirdPolice
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2/3/2016
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I'll donate free evenings and unlimited coffees. TheThirdPolice.
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Erika
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2/3/2016
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This is a bit odd coming from a fellow runner of the IroNoman, but feel free to hit me up with coffee. I can turn my main into an infinite Notability generator as well, so I can start handing out Notability like candy if need be.
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Suhe Gul
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2/3/2016
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Yesterday I was going to ask if there is anything we could help the marathon runner but I think I was sleepy.
I can donate at least one point of notability from my main(link in signiture). His notability is a bit high too force draw the slowcake but I have the card at hand and donating loops to the card. If enough people request at once, I can bring his notability to a point to easyly force draw the card. As most of the endgame player, I have enough BDR to generate infinite loop at notability two.
Unfortunately my main cannot do dinner, because he has three proteges to teach. But my alt suheyla(in game name) can come to dinner with you, if you need.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
2/3/2016
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I've dinners and notablity to donate. Slowcake is in hand, so send your card if you haven't already (I'm going to keep an eye on it so I'll probably see your name if you've sent a card already). [edit]
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Toran
Posts: 193
2/3/2016
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February 2 Noman's Friend loss - 114
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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2/3/2016
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Thanks to everyone for lending a helping hand in this. At first I was getting worried if all this has been for not, but it's nice to know that the community has our back. I'll be sure to contact some of you as soon as I get the chance to. Great job, guys. 
Apologies for any excess of aggression. In situations like these it's easy to breed contempt when everyone can gather around in a thread and stew in each others' anger. On a lighter note, I do hope that Failbetter will give our opinions a read.
Also, be sure to message me if you likewise need assistance with your grind. I'll be sure to help however I can, we need to stick together! Good luck everyone!
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Màiread
Posts: 385
2/3/2016
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I've said my piece about this, so I'll let it lie now.
However, I do want to say a MASSIVE thank you to everyone here who has offered to help us out in whatever way they can. It is heartwarming (not too toasty, please, we're trying to keep Peggy cold!) to see everyone rally round and cheer us on. It's what makes doing these insane adventures worthwhile, and it's my favourite part of FL.
Any cups of coffee you can spare will be greatly appreciated.
Now on we go to the final furlong! We can do it! GO GO TEAM NOMAN! LOVE! IS! SACRIFICE!!!!!
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Gonen
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2/3/2016
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My evenings will be available in 24 hours.
Will be honored to give Notability points.
Coffee cups by the dozens.
Even be happy to feast at your expense at Dante's.
Marathoners: PM me, Card me, whatever and whenever.
Good luck to all.
Let's turn back Time.
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Chris Gardiner
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2/3/2016
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I've been reading the responses in this thread closely. I understand people's disgruntlement - the terms of the content weren't clear and we should have communicated them better.
What's unusual in this case is that we did exactly the same process last year, without causing any distress. It's worth reiterating the point that Fallen London is a living game. We make changes to content constantly - in response to bug reports and exploits, to bring old content in line with new, to balance the economy, and in preparation for upcoming content. What happened last year might not be the same this year. This goes double for festivals; you can expect Hallowmas, at least, to be significantly different this year.
If you have specific questions about upcoming content, ask on the forums. We won't always be able to answer - and sometimes when we do, the answer will be "we don't know yet" - but when we can, we will. We'll always be as honest as we can, while being mega-busy writing new content for you to enjoy.
All that said, in this instance, we're going to do the following:
1. Reduce the Time, the Healer reduction of Noman's Friend.
2. If you've been affected by the larger reduction since Monday, and care, drop us a support request and we'll restore the difference in Noman's Friend.
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Parelle
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2/3/2016
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
What's unusual in this case is that we did exactly the same process last year, without causing any distress. I.
Hey, is this saying that there's a system to the Nomen decreasing madness? Number Crunchers of the Neath, unite!
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metasynthie
Posts: 645
2/3/2016
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Didn't last year's change -- or at least the part of the changes that were visible enough to affect player decisions -- mostly involve nerfing the "stay inside a storylet until Lilac arrives" strategy that two players used to keep a Noman alive that long? Even if there was a change in melting rate, I imagine the difference between 2014 and 2015 didn't become visible, unlike the much more recorded and discussed data from 2015 changing now that it's 2016.
That said: very munificent of Failbetter -- and I must admit, very much in keeping with the player community's emphasis on people, stories of love and loss, and collaborative knowledge.
It's not like FL really needed a THIRD memento of ultra-grind dedication, in any case
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NiteBrite
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2/3/2016
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metasynthie wrote:
Didn't last year's change -- or at least the part of the changes that were visible enough to affect player decisions -- mostly involve nerfing the "stay inside a storylet until Lilac arrives" strategy that two players used to keep a Noman alive that long? Even if there was a change in melting rate, I imagine the difference between 2014 and 2015 didn't become visible, unlike the much more recorded and discussed data from 2015 changing now that it's 2016.
That said: very munificent of Failbetter -- and I must admit, very much in keeping with the player community's emphasis on people, stories of love and loss, and collaborative knowledge.
It's not like FL really needed a THIRD memento of ultra-grind dedication, in any case
No that was just a gimmick well after the fact which I did expressly for the purpose of drawing attention to it so it would get nerfed. I had 666 nomans friend and melt rates in the 100+ range didn't hit me until like March, I believe. The exact date is on my blog and the forums. Noman lasted until March 18th 2015.
I suppose it's -possible- I was just insanely lucky and didn't see the 70+ change for weeks, but it seems unlikely given all reports this week have been higher than 70. That's why we say it was changed.
But it is nice to see a response back from FBG taking ownership of the issue.
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metasynthie
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2/3/2016
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Ahh ok, thanks! The melt rate definitely seems to have changed since last year (between 2015, when you had 666 and got the tattoo, and this year) -- but I was wondering about what Chris said re: they went through the same process last year, in other words making a change between 2014 and 2015. I recall reading somewhere that there were a couple players who reached Lilac with a Noman in 2014, but that nobody got the tattoo. If that's the case I can see why nobody knew about the 2014-to-2015 change -- there's just no data for 2014 about late-winter melt rates.
However, the costs for BUYING a Noman definitely changed between 2014 and 2015, right? So that was certainly part of the adjustment that year. It's interesting because in the other thread about surprise, genesis has made good points about what kind of surprises simply feel awful as opposed to intriguing, provocative, or challenging in a positive way.
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Passionario
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
Acquiring a Noman tattoo is intended to be one of FL's most challenging achievements. Inevitably, as people gather more data and develop more efficient strategies, the achievement gets easier. We want to preserve its prestige, so each year we look at the data and increase the rate of Noman decay accordingly.
Once-singular tattoos turning into popular fads is an established fact of FL setting. There's even a sidebar snippet about it!
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Gonen
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
All that said, in this instance, we're going to do the following:
1. Reduce the Time, the Healer reduction of Noman's Friend.
2. If you've been affected by the larger reduction since Monday, and care, drop us a support request and we'll restore the difference in Noman's Friend.
Thank you all for listening, and for willing to go that length.
Thank you for the heads up on Hallowmas.
We will take that warning into heart regarding the Feast of the Rose also.
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colinsapherson
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As one of the people who is going for a Noman tattoo, but one of the least prepared for it (*only* 18 pails of snow and 6 Tears), the last couple of days have been a bit of a ride. I accepted fairly early on that I may well not get the tattoo if rates of melting stayed at the elevated level; if they continued to increase I'd be sunk. That's okay: as I said, I was one of the least prepared, and if you're doing the Marathon des Sables then you shouldn't go into it half-heartedly. The call to arms for rapid Tears creation was a real boost, a geeing up from fellow runners, and I have spent much of today getting going on that. The idea of having the rest of the community do their best to help me was a great thought (one of you spent a whole candle of actions just sending me coffee!) and would have been a significant consolation: something you love has died, but your friends are there for you.
I am not so masochistic that I will now *want* my Noman to die before the Panopticon, but if it does it will be my fault and not through developer actions. I would like to thank Chris and the rest of the Failbetter team for their engagement and behaviour over all this; please don't feel you need to placate us always, but it is very nice to know that it happens occasionally. The gods do listen, and they can be merciful!
In many ways, the person I feel sorry for is NiteBrite, whose Noman's Friend data-gathering will be ruined by these changes. Also, this can work fine narratively: a late winter cold snap is not unknown in London.
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