Vopel
Posts: 33
1/29/2016
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28th of January, 2:24 PM GMT -52 x Noman's Friend, Noman Knows 4
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Vopel - myself
Ergs - adopted child
Greysil - adopted brother
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xenopus
Posts: 29
1/31/2016
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Friday 29th of January late in the evening:
You've lost 53 x Noman's Friend (new total 230 - The Noman is pristine).
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Mimic
Posts: 26
2/2/2016
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Lost 119 Noman's Friend. Ouch.
Feb. 1, new total is 183.
Also, Noman Knows 11. Probably should have put that all at once...
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Màiread
Posts: 385
2/2/2016
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Oh, hell. I though NMF loss was capped at 70.
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Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.
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Cocytus
Posts: 187
2/2/2016
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93, down to 190. Yeesh.
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colinsapherson
Posts: 191
2/2/2016
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Loss of 103, at Noman Knows 13. Arrived at about 10.54 GMT 2 February. This may not end well...
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Mordaine Barimen
Posts: 670
2/2/2016
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You've lost 111 x Noman's Friend (new total 442 - The Noman is pristine).
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I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums.
If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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RandomWalker
Posts: 948
2/2/2016
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Yeah, they upped the hit massively from last year. I hate aiming for a moving target when you don't even know that the target is moving. Do I plough more resources into this run, or call it quits? How much worse is it going to get?
Anyway, 101 points taken a couple of hours ago.
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Erika
Posts: 528
2/2/2016
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Unfortunately, I already dumped buckets in the name of getting content, so now I can't get those first initial points of ToL for my Noman, I'll have to spend straight up whole tears instead.
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the_antichris
Posts: 49
2/2/2016
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TtH came a few hours ago for my alt, lost 100 x Noman's Friend, from 367 to 267. Ouch.
If I don't get a tattoo, after grinding Tears and Wild Words all year, because they changed the rules, I will be pretty gutted. I'm glad my main decided to concentrate on her long-term grind.
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Màiread
Posts: 385
2/2/2016
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Wow, this is harsh. It seems particularly unkind to have changed the goalposts *after* it's too late for most of us to do anything about this - I easily had time & resources to get more NMF, but I spent most of my spares as the January losses of NMF were all sub 70. Luckily I had 11 taste and one bucket still on hand, but even with that it's going to be a close run thing. If Lilac comes on the 20th and losses stay below 120 each week, touch wood, I may just make it if I can grab some extra tears.
I know we were advised not to plan too much on the basis of past years, but given that this takes months of grinding to prepare for...
My TTH comes tomorrow evening, so I'll report my loss (last week I lost 45) and see if that helps people decide what to do.
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Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.
I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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the_antichris
Posts: 49
2/2/2016
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Màiread wrote:
Wow, this is harsh. It seems particularly unkind to have changed the goalposts *after* it's too late for most of us to do anything about this
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I know we were advised not to plan too much on the basis of past years, but given that this takes months of grinding to prepare for...
Yeah. Is Alexis exploring the ludic narrative value of a sense of wasted effort? (There's also my undue attachment to pixels and text, but that's always been part of the Noman experience.)
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RandomWalker
Posts: 948
2/2/2016
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The people I feel sorry for are the people who want a noman tattoo next year, especially those who fall short this year.
How many resources are they going to have to waste to play it safe? Will FB boost the decay each year? Will they drop it next year, and then boost it the year after? How many thousands of echoes' of material do you have to over-shoot to be certain?
I had thought that the tattoo would be an indicator of strategic planning and a year-long focus towards the goal (or else the willingness to sink a boatload of Fate at the Gallery of Serpents). Instead it's an indicator of gambling and wastefulness.
I appreciate that FB probably have an excellent reason for changing the decay, but I'm too upset right now to see it as anything other than whimsy or spite.
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Chris Gardiner
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Posts: 539
2/2/2016
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Hi all.
Nomen's lives are beautiful but brief - it's sad, but integral to the intent of this content. Acquiring a Noman tattoo is intended to be one of FL's most challenging achievements. Inevitably, as people gather more data and develop more efficient strategies, the achievement gets easier. We want to preserve its prestige, so each year we look at the data and increase the rate of Noman decay accordingly.
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Gonen
Posts: 817
2/2/2016
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Sooo...
No Iron-noman marathon declaration on the forums next year.
Underground marathon, word of mouth invites only. No tigers and Clay Men allowed, etc.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
2/2/2016
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Yikes! How horrible for you all.
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Theus
Posts: 311
2/2/2016
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Gonen wrote:
Sooo...
No Iron-noman marathon declaration on the forums next year.
Underground marathon, word of mouth invites only. No tigers and Clay Men allowed, etc.
It's likely far easier for the FB team to get that data from a minute of looking in the database rather than trying to keep tabs on a forum thread. By all means, use the forum to collaborate.
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Erika
Posts: 528
2/2/2016
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
Hi all.
Nomen's lives are beautiful but brief - it's sad, but integral to the intent of this content. Acquiring a Noman tattoo is intended to be one of FL's most challenging achievements. Inevitably, as people gather more data and develop more efficient strategies, the achievement gets easier. We want to preserve its prestige, so each year we look at the data and increase the rate of Noman decay accordingly.
I understand the challenge, but that's a little unfair, some warning would have been nice. If there was a slow increase in loss of Noman's Friend, that would have been adequate. As is, I'm under prepared because the change was so abrupt, suddenly 2550 liquified echoes of mine are at the mercy of the RNG. I've been grinding this for the last 6 or so months. Possibly longer.
If I had had some indication of this prior to the TtH warning about pails melting, I wouldn't have bought my remaining lodgings and dumped the rest into the Stolen River just to see some mechanical information.
Mind, it's not like I under prepared. In fact, I was one of the most prepared for this. But this sudden change isn't okay. I might be able to scrape out of this mess by straight up feeding the 17 Tears of the Bazaar I have left.
Nevermind the inordinate amount of echoes that is (or the poor 5/7 ratio converting Cellars to Airag), that's also 28 Fate as 4 of those were from A Gallery of Serpents. I was hoping to get this tattoo without dipping into fate. And that still might not be enough considering that I might get a mere 1 x Noman's Friend per Tear of the Bazaar.
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Going on a fate expedition? I'm collecting data! Help me?
"Bottles of Oblivion" drunk in the name of content: 57
Catboxes (send more!) opened in the name of science: 1093
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Gonen
Posts: 817
2/2/2016
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I must agree with Cecil.
I do understand the need to keep this challenging. All for it. It IS a unique achievement and you should keep it for the few who accomplish it with labor and determination.
However, sampling data AFTER people had their stock of buckets and tears (of course, you could not have that data beforehand) and raising the challenge accordingly makes it impossible to adjust. The tears have already been bought. So does the pales. NOW what can the players do about it? Nothing, I believe. They cannot grind harder now, cannot dedicate every action to this Noman because nothing can BE done at this point. That is not a challenge. It is just a boundary, discovered after investing so much time (and for some, Fate). If the players were to know this 4 months ago - THEN you could test their devotion. Right now they are helpless and cannot influence the result what so ever.
Hope I made my argument clear.
Thank you for listening.
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.
The long journey to eccentricity:
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Erika
Posts: 528
2/2/2016
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It's also worth pointing out that Pails can't be bought anymore.
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Where the sun is hot, the moon is beautiful, and mysterious lights pass overhead while we all pretend to sleep.
Going on a fate expedition? I'm collecting data! Help me?
"Bottles of Oblivion" drunk in the name of content: 57
Catboxes (send more!) opened in the name of science: 1093
Fancy a friend?
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