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Parelle
Parelle
Posts: 1084

2/3/2016
For those donating, a few hints
1) You need to be formally acquainted to send Notability - that requires a calling card.
2) You can donate to more than one person per card draw of Slowcake. The card will still be available even after you've done those actions.
3) Once you use your remaining Making Waves to increase your Notability you'll lose the card you have in hand.
4) If you force-draw Slowcake for Notability donation you'll have more Making Waves than you need when you do decide to increase your Notability level again. You can "bank" those somewhat inefficiently with Night on the Town.

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Màiread
Màiread
Posts: 385

2/3/2016
Chris Gardiner wrote:


All that said, in this instance, we're going to do the following:

1. Reduce the Time, the Healer reduction of Noman's Friend.

2. If you've been affected by the larger reduction since Monday, and care, drop us a support request and we'll restore the difference in Noman's Friend.


Thank you - a great big massive chocolate-covered ginger-sprinkled thank you. Thank you for listening to us and for understanding. It makes a massive difference to know that the community is heard, and it's one of the many reasons why I come back to FL day after day. I hope I was clear about how much I love the Noman story, and how excited I am to be able to see it through.

The story lives. Content grows, morphs, sprouts new and peculiar branches and outgrows its old pots. This dynamic world is what makes FL exciting - I for one can't wait to see the new Hallowmas! Up until this year, I wasn't very social within the game. But everyone working together to find ways through the new challenges the team cooks up has become my favourite part of the game. So thanks, again, both for what's passed and for all those delicious treats that have yet to come.

And now on to the data! TTH came for me an hour ago, and I lost 83 NMF. So, things are tougher than last year, but fingers crossed with a following wind we should be able to keep our chilly friends alive for a bit longer yet.

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MrBurnside
MrBurnside
Posts: 188

2/4/2016
Wow... You guys and gals (and other people of mysterious gender) are awesome. I go to bed and when I next have the opportunity to look, there's a huge outpouring of offers to help.

Welp, I'm in. I normally just play solo, but I'll happily donate some Free Evenings and some candles. I've said before that one of the most impressive things about Fallen London players is their sense of ambition. I'd be honored to help.

Send me a PM and I'll do what I can.

Final edit I promise: If anyone has built up Scheme then MrBurnside is a Correspondent, ObviouslyOblivious is a Crooked-Cross and FrankandExplicite is a Author
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MadmanAtW
MadmanAtW
Posts: 231

2/4/2016
Happy to help with evenings (either character) or Notability (Madman only). And cheers to Chris for his response.

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Sir Joseph Marlen
Sir Joseph Marlen
Posts: 575

2/4/2016
Chris Gardiner wrote:
I've been reading the responses in this thread closely. I understand people's disgruntlement - the terms of the content weren't clear and we should have communicated them better.

What's unusual in this case is that we did exactly the same process last year, without causing any distress. It's worth reiterating the point that Fallen London is a living game. We make changes to content constantly - in response to bug reports and exploits, to bring old content in line with new, to balance the economy, and in preparation for upcoming content. What happened last year might not be the same this year. This goes double for festivals; you can expect Hallowmas, at least, to be significantly different this year.

If you have specific questions about upcoming content, ask on the forums. We won't always be able to answer - and sometimes when we do, the answer will be "we don't know yet" - but when we can, we will. We'll always be as honest as we can, while being mega-busy writing new content for you to enjoy.

All that said, in this instance, we're going to do the following:

1. Reduce the Time, the Healer reduction of Noman's Friend.

2. If you've been affected by the larger reduction since Monday, and care, drop us a support request and we'll restore the difference in Noman's Friend.

Thank you, thank you so much. It feels good knowing that Failbetter is hearing us out on our issues and taking them into consideration. Kudos to you, Chris. Thanks a ton.

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Furak
Furak
Posts: 16

2/4/2016
Chris Gardiner wrote:
I've been reading the responses in this thread closely. I understand people's disgruntlement - the terms of the content weren't clear and we should have communicated them better.

Thank you Chris, this is what i was saying all along, if there was even a small warning after wicket opened, that it might be harder to keep poor Noman alive, i wouldn't say a word. But significant changes to estabilished content should always be communicated in time, especially when there may be people's money in play. And not even the real one, there would be players losing thousands of echoes and even that is painful to many.
Once again, thank you.
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Juno
Juno
Posts: 63

2/4/2016
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I have free evenings to spare. Feel free to drop me a calling card.

I'm also open to invites as an Author for MW generation.

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Loiathal
Loiathal
Posts: 38

2/4/2016
Just want to report my Noman's Friend loss for yesterday: loss of 69.

Also holy crap I missed a lot the last couple days while I was at work-- Failbetter I appreciate your listening to the feedback. I actually think the idea of the tatoo getting harder or easier each year is a great idea, but I also think vague references to such in the announcement are very important.
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Vopel
Vopel
Posts: 33

2/4/2016
4th February 2:26 PM GMT -69 x Noman's Friend (new total 129). Will I make it? Probably not. But I don't regret it.

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xenopus
xenopus
Posts: 29

2/5/2016
You've lost 86 x Noman's Friend (new total 144 - The Noman is pristine). (Wow.)
February 5th, evening, around 10 pm GMT.

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Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3666

2/6/2016
Lilac will appear on the 15th so everyone only has to last one or two more weeks. Good luck all!

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colinsapherson
colinsapherson
Posts: 191

2/9/2016
Lost 63 Noman's Friend, at Noman Knows 15.

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RandomWalker
RandomWalker
Posts: 948

2/9/2016
Lost 75 Noman's Friend, fifteen minutes ago. Noman knows at 12.
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Cocytus
Cocytus
Posts: 187

2/9/2016
62 lost at 7:42 am GMT. 158 remaining, and Noman Knows has been at 15 since about three days after I got the thing.

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Mordaine Barimen
Mordaine Barimen
Posts: 670

2/10/2016
14 hours ago: "You've lost 88 x Noman's Friend"

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An Individual
An Individual
Posts: 589

2/10/2016
Feb. 10th, 1:40 AM UTC: Lost 87 Noman's Friend (dropping from 299 to 212)
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Màiread
Màiread
Posts: 385

2/10/2016
Time just came for me (11 pm GMT), and I lost 85 Noman's friend, with Noman Knows at 16. Our data is limited, but it looks like the revised loss range is about 60-90, which is a useful minimum to keep in mind for anyone hoping to try this next year.

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Loiathal
Loiathal
Posts: 38

2/11/2016
Mine arrived today, about an hour ago (4 PM MT, 2/10). Loss of 71, 114 remaining.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
Sir Joseph Marlen
Posts: 575

2/11/2016
Màiread wrote:
Time just came for me (11 pm GMT), and I lost 85 Noman's friend, with Noman Knows at 16. Our data is limited, but it looks like the revised loss range is about 60-90, which is a useful minimum to keep in mind for anyone hoping to try this next year.

I agree, but let's all make sure to make it a rough basis for planning next year rather than anything definitive. After all, it seems like next year will be slightly harder considering what Chris said.
edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 2/11/2016

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An Individual
An Individual
Posts: 589

2/11/2016
Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Màiread wrote:
Time just came for me (11 pm GMT), and I lost 85 Noman's friend, with Noman Knows at 16. Our data is limited, but it looks like the revised loss range is about 60-90, which is a useful minimum to keep in mind for anyone hoping to try this next year.

I agree, but let's all make sure to make it a rough basis for planning next year rather than anything definitive. After all, it seems like next year will be slightly harder considering what Chris said.
edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 2/11/2016


If you look at the time lines on the closure of the wicket and the arrival of Lilac it sounds like the Noman melting rate is meant to be adjusted each year to get a similar average total Noman's Friend loss to occur between the two events in any given year. This year was especially bad because of how close together they are. It seems like if you form you're Noman at the last possible moment you're meant to need between 300 and 400 Noman's Friend to make it through.

For example, with Lilac arriving on the 15th if you formed you're Noman in the last week of the wicket you'd need to survive 2-3 meltings to make it through. That first melt hit us for around the 110 mark. Presumably the next one would have been slightly worse. So if you went right to the wire and only had 2 melts 300 could have been a comfortable value. 3 melts would likely fall somewhere in that 300-400 range depending on how badly it escalated. This lines up with NiteBrite's numbers from last year that showed with a minimum number of melts (4) you would needed 280 Noman's Friend to be safe and with an extra melt (5) in there you needed about 350.

In short, if I had advice for people next year I'd say aim to get 400 Noman's Friend and create you're Noman as late as possible. You might be able to get away with less but I suspect that this is the reliably safe number to aim for.

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