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12/19/2015
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So, we have a considerable number of people living in Spire-Emporiums.
We got enamel toliet bowls invented in 1885, then Mr. Crapper (it is a real name) invented flushing toliet in 1891 in UK (the ingame year is now 1893). For the poorer lodgings or the more remote ones I can see people just emptying chamberpots and some such, and I suspect the Sanctum (time oddities) and the Hotel (mind oddities) doesn't have to worry that either.
But Spire-Emporiums are kind of in the unique situation of being a fancy high-rise based on a living crab. What if my acquaintances served me a lacre-dinner with poo-poo potentially mixed in? What does the Master think? Does the Bazaar cry so much because there are so many people literally pooping on it? Do we have plumbing, or do we empty chamberpots like splash-of-cosmogone over the Bazaar Sidestreet so only people with 100+ Dangerous and Shadowy are permitted to enter? Do we brew all of that into Darkdrop Coffee? edited by Estelle Knoht on 12/19/2015
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12/21/2015
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I REGRET NOTHING (Also you guys are the best for the educated discussion)
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12/22/2015
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Lisbella Peridot wrote:
Where's the exceptional pitch?
A dank and cloying miasma has ascended onto the streets of London.
Wheezing rats collapse in the gutters of Spite while bats desperately cling to the stalactites above. Perfumes and incense have long sold out and the Masters are nowhere to be seen. The Bazaar is sickly quiet.
Pinch your nose and choke through abandoned alleys in this unanticipated and unwanted Unexceptional Story. Hunt for Mr. C******'s upended manhole. Explore the depths of London's sewers in greater detail than anyone should want. STAIN YOUR SOUL.
This month we're introducing the first and last of our Unexceptional Stories. The Return of Mr. C******* was written by [REDACTED] who was later publicly shamed and fired. Play An Unexceptional Story: It came from the privy anywhere in London to begin. Exceptional Friends can then continue the story in the House of Chimes where they will become Unexceptional Friends for their lack of better judgment.
Unexceptional Friends can enjoy many benefits such as:
* Being banned indefinitely from the House of Chimes. * Experiencing our newly introduced menace, Unfortunate Hygiene. * Having your lodgings permanently relocated to a Clammy Cesspool. * Disappointing your parents.
At the end of the month we will discontinue this Unexceptional Story and never speak of it again. edited by Blaine Davidson on 12/22/2015
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12/19/2015
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...What the hell did I just read.
But another question comes to mind: since we know tears of the Bazaar, both liquid and frozen, have special properties (as do all of its body parts, really), then what about the Bazaar's feces? Does it simply never excrete them? And if it does, what magical/alien properties do they possess?
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12/19/2015
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
For the poorer lodgings or the more remote ones I can see people just emptying chamberpots and some such I expect that Spire-Dwellers also use chamberpots. The only difference is that they have people (servants or Clay) to empty them.
(Now, if you want a truly disturbing thought, consider toilets in Polythreme)
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12/19/2015
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Passionario wrote:
(Now, if you want a truly disturbing thought, consider toilets in Polythreme)
CANNOT UNTHINK
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12/20/2015
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Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Everybody posting to this thread has lost 10 CP Persuasive and gained 5 CP Scandal. Those reading it have gained 2 CP Scandal.
An Accomplishment! You are now Exalted in Excrement.
Making Waves is increasing... (take a look at the icon yourself)
-- Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now.
Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender Kelly is taking a long break on isolation.
I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot! I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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12/21/2015
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Or do you mean Ambition: Enema?
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12/20/2015
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So that's why Mr. Pages has been collecting all that paper...
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Everybody posting to this thread has lost 10 CP Persuasive and gained 5 CP Scandal. Those reading it have gained 2 CP Scandal.
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12/22/2015
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Estelle Knoht wrote:

"The Bazaar has been feasting on Tomb-Cockroaches that has fallen into the Sundered Sea. It only makes her more constipated, and that's worse for all of us... but especially those who love her."
Its eyes are bright. "I'm pissborn," it says, "There are no worse things you could have showed to the Dragons. Excrement, hurtling forever towards the earth. A love which failed, and a fall into chamberpot. It tells, too, of the stink to High Wilderness. I felt sorry for the Bazaar."
A scream rips the night behind you. The Pooman is grappling with a hunched figure. In the orange gaslights you see the figure raising a sign not unlike those held by a Union worker on strike, but in Mr Irons' handwriting: "YOU WILL MAKE THE WORK ENVIRONMENT OR THEY WILL BE MADE FOR YOU."
Go beyond the Sundered Sea and mount an expedition to the Bazaar's privy! The most dirty secret of the Neath are open to you. Take on the new menace of Tomb-Cockroaches, whose unnatural vitality render them immune to squashing. Revisit Theological Husbandry, and create a new creature that will topples the balance of power of the known world, or even postpone the reckoning... indefinitely.
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12/22/2015
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Dear god, I cannot believe I'm replying to this. *Sigh*.
CRAPBOUND! Clear the path yourself?...
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.
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12/22/2015
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So I finally got around to playing The Return of Mr. Crapper and I have to admit that I was pleasantly surprised. After the introductory storylet about brown foul-smelling grafitti on the wall of St. Fiacre's, I expected a torrent of scatological jokes, but the rest of the story was quite tastefully done (a few exceptions notwithstanding).
-= MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD =-
[spoiler]The London part of the investigation into the link between grafitti and the 'ancient exile' was pretty interesting. I particularly liked the little references to Seeking the Name and TRAVELLER RETURNING. The bit with the Urchins was one of the aforementioned exceptions, but it was thankfully short, and I guess all that toilet humour is thematically appropriate for them.
The real meat of the story was, of course, in Far Khanate. I didn't get a chance to explore all the carousels available there, but from what I've seen, it seems to be a great place for either grinding or spending one's Great Game connection. Alas, my Suspicion was spiralling out of control, so I did just enough to get an audience with the titular renegade Master - or, as he used to be known in the Fourth City, the Khan of Dung.
The story of his self-imposed exile and potential return raises a few questions about the current Masters. As we know from Affair of the Box and other sources, not all of them are united in their opinions on London. Crapper/Dung's actions set a dangerous precedent for them. Who would stay behind with London's overzee colonies? Who would return to Sixth City at its hour of twilight?
When it came to the big choice, I predictably picked the status quo and convinced Mr. Crapper that this particular trade portfolio was already divided between Pages and Veils. The demonstration challenge was another of the aforementioned exceptions, but one that was fairly funny. Note that, unlike the 'Intoxicating' quality in the Flint story, the value number for 'Soft Tissue' on the items you use actually matters - the higher it is, the greater the progress. I'm not sure how low-level players are supposed to reach the target number, unless they were lucky enough to bring a lot of Proscribed Material and Whisper-Silk with them. As for me, I took this opportunity to, for the lack of better word, dump my excess Theosophistical Research Notes, Sworn Statements and Pages of Salacious Copy.
(And no, going over 200 doesn't give any extra benefit, so there's no reason to wipe it with Veils-Velvet, Crimson Book or the wedding letter from the Empress. Unless you really, really want to)
Upon returning to London, I got a nice reward from the Masters and other interested parties. If anyone picked the other option - to become Mr. Crapper's agent and assist in his eventual return - please PM me or just post a journal echo link.[/spoiler]
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 John Savage Posts: 198
12/20/2015
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Puts a new spin on the job of the Privy Counsellor!
-- If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage
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12/19/2015
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Kolanowski wrote:
...What the hell did I just read.
The greatest, most important neathy mystery of our time! edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/19/2015
-- "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."
Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!
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12/20/2015
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A twist in your tale! You are now Uncovering Secrets Most Fetid.
You now have 1 x An Unusual Pail of So-Called Excrement.
Persuasive is decreasing...
Nightmares is increasing...
Wounds is increasing...
-- Kazimierz Kolanowski, gentleman, scholar, humble servant of the Maw. Chaotic Evil. Open to all social actions & accepting almost all requests. Might sell you to Satan for a single corn chip.
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12/22/2015
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The Masters play the new monthly content:
Mr. Cups: Not on the china. Good grief NOT ON THE CHINA!
Mr. Fires: Maybe a new city isn't a bad idea after all.
Mr. Hearts: I'll ask the good Bishop if he can prepare a creature that can take care of this smell.
Mr. Iron: [We are not speaking of this content again. Mr. Pages must explain himself]
Mr. Pages: what a catastrophic calamitous cr****r! I must fortify my abode posthaste!
Mr. Sacks: We are now considering the virtue of giving rather than taking.
Mr. Spices: That golden liquid wasn't honey, was it?
Mr. Stones: NOT MINE!
Mr. Veils: (not available for comment. However, there are several sightings of the Vake repeatedly headbutting the cavern's roof.)
Mr. Wines: (Not available for comment. Seems to be out of the zee and having one of his revels.)
MR. EATEN: I should probably postpone the reckoning...
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12/26/2015
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Guys, it seems that there's also free content associated with Mr. Crapper:
Installing a new sewage pipe: A Flush Lay
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12/22/2015
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Gonen wrote:
Dear god, I cannot believe I'm replying to this. *Sigh*.
CRAPBOUND! Clear the path yourself?...
Until further notice, I AM NOT accepting invitations to a private supper from any posters in this thread.
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12/21/2015
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Hold on, hold on. We might be concerned about the Bazaar and all of the upper-class waste products up there, but it's safe to say that all those stuff are somehow going to mingle with their plebeian counterparts and end up in the Stolen River, right? So they're literally going to Hell?
Now we know where the fuel for all those blazing flowers came from. Also, despite that one failed invasion, it's good to know that we're getting back at those devils in one way or another, every single day.
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12/21/2015
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Yes, because what Londoners really need is another way to stain our souls.
[spoiler]I would pay Fate for this as well and I am ashamed of myself.[/spoiler]
-- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
So, we have a considerable number of people living in Spire-Emporiums.
We got enamel toliet bowls invented in 1885, then Mr. Crapper (it is a real name) invented flushing toliet in 1891 in UK (the ingame year is now 1893). For the poorer lodgings or the more remote ones I can see people just emptying chamberpots and some such, and I suspect the Sanctum (time oddities) and the Hotel (mind oddities) doesn't have to worry that either.
But Spire-Emporiums are kind of in the unique situation of being a fancy high-rise based on a living crab. What if my acquaintances served me a lacre-dinner with poo-poo potentially mixed in? What does the Master think? Does the Bazaar cry so much because there are so many people literally pooping on it? Do we have plumbing, or do we empty chamberpots like splash-of-cosmogone over the Bazaar Sidestreet so only people with 100+ Dangerous and Shadowy are permitted to enter? Do we brew all of that into Darkdrop Coffee? edited by Estelle Knoht on 12/19/2015
Mr. Crapper, that other Master that even MR. EATEN doesn't want to talk about.
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
So, we have a considerable number of people living in Spire-Emporiums. We got enamel toliet bowls invented in 1885, then Mr. Crapper (it is a real name) invented flushing toliet in 1891 in UK (the ingame year is now 1893). For the poorer lodgings or the more remote ones I can see people just emptying chamberpots and some such, and I suspect the Sanctum (time oddities) and the Hotel (mind oddities) doesn't have to worry that either. But Spire-Emporiums are kind of in the unique situation of being a fancy high-rise based on a living crab. What if my acquaintances served me a lacre-dinner with poo-poo potentially mixed in? What does the Master think? Does the Bazaar cry so much because there are so many people literally pooping on it? Do we have plumbing, or do we empty chamberpots like splash-of-cosmogone over the Bazaar Sidestreet so only people with 100+ Dangerous and Shadowy are permitted to enter? Do we brew all of that into Darkdrop Coffee? edited by Estelle Knoht on 12/19/2015
Well, this explains the OP's icon finally! 
I must admit, I have read many a bizarre (and in FL, Bizarre,) thing, but this was at the pinnacle of weirdly debated crap to me. (Everything written intended, yes I did mean that and [had] to go there. Still, I can't believe I am academically going into this, but too late to stop discussing it now, so here we go: )
As noted,
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Well there are mentions of sewers in the stories every now and then so I guess London has a working plumbing system. However I also prefer the chamberpots angle. There might be enterprising individuals with cosmogene inspiration that may use the resulting night soil for compost for raising both edible and intelligent fungi.
Briefly opening with Fallen London before exploring the real-life historical use of sanitation, even the beginning Watchmaker's Hill's Your Quarry: A Worryingly Large Rat mentioned the sewer to new players, even warning them to leave it before the tide comes in. So if a sewage system exists and we have 19th century progress, some form of waste-collection exists better than pits. More on that ability and beyond the norm of collection later.
While we had underground plumbing as early as the Ancient Greek or Minoan civilization Empire in large-city-state levels-including the flush-toilet in the 18th century BCE-and aqueducts way before that for constantly flowing waters as far back as the Indus Civilization of 33 century BCE, the use of pots or communal privies still was prevalent.
Chamberpots/Bedpans alone ended as late as the mid-20th century for common use, so even "modern plumbing" of the 19th century does not rule out this option. (Technically, it's when we mastered both plumbing hydraulics and water pressure and were able to incorporate it in a post-WWiI-industrial level did those chamberpots finally die out in regular use. Not regularly using them is quite a modern change in sewage anthropological terms.)
You can bet the "communal privy/bog"-or however else it's named in the world- exists still in the FL era and existed as soon as people got the idea to "take care of waste away from the home" when large-scale sewage transporting was not always a viable option (and often, it was not many places in the 19th century.) This especially is true for multi-storied constructions.
That last above link is to reiterate the fallacy of "multi level privies" somehow falling on the recipient beneath. the same holds true about falling waste handled in the spires, even if "supernatural" means (of which I am certain they are) were not used.
So all that with "regular" laws applies, but what happens when we start...um...bending the rules of Physics and Nature and do things the non-humans have been seen to do?
For instance, the Bazaar can "reorganize the streets and pipes around it," making it easier for the (how aptly seasonal for now) Lacre pits and channels to be well organized. If that is true, it shouldn't be to hard to "reorganize piping around certain spire floors" as well.
Secondly, we've all read (and a few characters might have seen) the shimmery portals that can just appear, especially in the summer months, aka "The Wandering Mirage." For the sake of discussion, let's say this is actually a real and dangerous to travel to locale. Such locales can also be used as...well, there is not nice way of saying besides "dumping grounds." A trigger using sensors when the act is done can open said portal to the "away" place" depositing said waste. Of course, this is important that it's a remote (no pun intended this time) wasteland with no beings who would be offset or (at least) have any way to go to the city to react to such actions.
Finally, besides the normal creatures used for composting such as earthworms and so forth-and I shutter to think of this concept-there may be creatures that seek out this stuff as a delicacy and it is...fed to them en masse. I've technically read weirder in this realm (but not by much) so such stuff could be collected and shipped by "whatever untouchable class" there is that gathers wherever this stuff is eventually hauled or dropped to.
All that written, we still can't say what Darkdrop coffee is made with besides the beans if anything else, but if it were...that ingredient added, it would likely be some "beast" using it to "lessen the casing of the bean" the same way the Kopi luwak is "mellowed" and not as an actual "added" ingredient. (But that nefarious additive being one or many different terrible things in DarkDrop coffee has been a long-running gag by now.)
Okay, that's now about enough conjecture from me on the topic. (While not British in spirit enough as to have a museum about such a thing,) I certainly feel I explained it organized well enough to state, "I got my **** together." edited by the truthseeker on 12/20/2015
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12/19/2015
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"Estelle Knoht, a JUVENILE, unreliable and respectable lady."
I'm just sayin'.
(Actually, what a hilarious post!)
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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12/23/2015
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Passionario wrote:
-= MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD =-
Major "Soilers" I think you meant.
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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M. Cinder wrote:
Oh, you silly people. People don't poop in the Victorian Era.
That's why they are full of it.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/xKiv - a witchful, percussive, dangermous and shadowry scholar of coexplodence, hopsidirean, and walker of fallen kitties.
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Siana wrote:
This was not an image I needed at this time of the day. Really.
(No, really though, it gave me a good laugh )
I'm fairly sure there was some form of plumbing by the time the 1890s rolled around... I mean, if London was taken in the 1860s, there might be a good chance there was some rudimentary form of sewage treatment in place already. However, the sewage back then was instead washed out to sea... so would the citizens be dumping tonnes of waste into the Zee instead? If they're not using chamberpots, I mean.
Yep!
Another reason the Lorn Flukes are....must resist...failing....cannot...
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12/20/2015
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Knowing the Neath, we might have the same situation on our hands that happened in good ol' Beersheba - under Flute Street and everything else, there is another London, even more Fallen, constructed from nothing but sewage accumulated from the Fifth and all previous cities. No one can say what smelly horrors dwell within.
[spoiler]Failbetter, please make this an Expedition destination.[/spoiler]
-- Kazimierz Kolanowski, gentleman, scholar, humble servant of the Maw. Chaotic Evil. Open to all social actions & accepting almost all requests. Might sell you to Satan for a single corn chip.
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Blaine Davidson wrote:
I shudder to imagine what Mr. Crapper would offer to Mr. Sacks.
Unfortunate Hygiene?
-- https://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/xKiv - a witchful, percussive, dangermous and shadowry scholar of coexplodence, hopsidirean, and walker of fallen kitties.
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Pyrodinium wrote:
Mr. Crapper, that other Master that even MR. EATEN doesn't want to talk about.
I shudder to imagine what Mr. Crapper would offer to Mr. Sacks.
-- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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12/21/2015
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Pyrodinium wrote:
This makes me wonder how the Topsy King and the other denizens of the Flit relieve themselves... They're certainly not the paragon of cleanliness. In this regard, the Flit is a perfect model of the society at large: those above **** on those down below.
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12/19/2015
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[T]hen what about the Bazaar's feces? Does it simply never excrete them? And if it does, what magical/alien properties do they possess?
It would likely kill you. Drinking Tears causes death by melancholy so I imagine consuming waste materials is much more painful.
Also, I'm going to be pedantic. It would be egest, not excrete. Unless the Bazaar has fecal matter leaving whatever constitutes as its cells.
This is not a pleasant thought.
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Trilby wrote:
How long do you think we can keep this gag running?
Also, what do you think the jugments or the shapelings excrete? edited by Agent 'Trilby' on 1/1/2017
Judgments? Well, stars mostly produce helium from their nuclear fusion. Helium: An extremely buoyant, noble gas. That's right. The Judgments are so high-and-mighty, even their waste products rise above us.
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You guys keep it up, I am off edited by Estelle Knoht on 4/30/2016
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5/2/2016
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Oh, you silly people. People don't poop in the Victorian Era.
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12/22/2015
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Gonen wrote:
Dear god, I cannot believe I'm replying to this. *Sigh*.
CRAPBOUND! Clear the path yourself?...
...Or with fate...pay the Masters to do it for you...
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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12/21/2015
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
I REGRET NOTHING (Also you guys are the best for the educated discussion)
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My sides have transcended known reality and are now up NORTH.
Can we get a Kickstarter for this?
-- Kazimierz Kolanowski, gentleman, scholar, humble servant of the Maw. Chaotic Evil. Open to all social actions & accepting almost all requests. Might sell you to Satan for a single corn chip.
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Kolanowski wrote:
Estelle Knoht wrote:
I REGRET NOTHING (Also you guys are the best for the educated discussion)
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My sides have transcended known reality and are now up NORTH.
Can we get a Kickstarter for this?
Forget the Kickstarter, I'd offer my left arm for this! And a good heaping of FATE.
-- Siana, the reckless and inquisitive Author.
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12/21/2015
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If I may point outside of the forums...
https://youtu.be/TLpzHHbFrHY?list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5Aq7g4bil7bnGi0A8gTsawu
I just watched this rather lively discussion of misasma theory that just happens to include some discussion of the sewer system of london.
Now, that isn't to say that the fall did no damage. Out at the edges perhaps there is a harry king, and some people smart enough and lucky enough to have a pot to **** in as well.
I also suspect we're still in the era of having to pump water up and carry it by hand or by clay. So water is poured down on top until it's washed away out of the bowl.
So, somebody in the spire would ring a bell (NOT THAT BELL) and a servant would show up with a bucket to clean the bowl.
-- The wind has no destination. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
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12/21/2015
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I finally know what Enigma 3 Content is hiding!
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12/19/2015
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Passionario wrote:
Estelle Knoht wrote:
For the poorer lodgings or the more remote ones I can see people just emptying chamberpots and some such I expect that Spire-Dwellers also use chamberpots. The only difference is that they have people (servants or Clay) to empty them.
(Now, if you want a truly disturbing thought, consider toilets in Polythreme)
Yeah, this was the conclusion I came to when the question randomly came into my mind one day. I'm not sure how much the Bazaar has been altered to accommodate residents, but plumbing seems a bit much to agree to.
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Well there are mentions of sewers in the stories every now and then so I guess London has a working plumbing system. However I also prefer the chamberpots angle. There might be enterprising individuals with cosmogene inspiration that may use the resulting night soil for compost for raising both edible and intelligent fungi.
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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I thought I'd bring in my two cents to this most marvelous of speculations.
I just now purchased my premises at the Bazaar, and the following small dialogue popped up:
Perhaps you've wondered," Penstock says, "why the Bazaar is so close to the river." He watches your face. "But I can see you're too wise to ask."
He of course means that the important folks of the Bazaar premises like to take walks along the river. Nothing suggesting any manner of bodily functions, I'm sure.
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12/23/2015
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Cimanyd wrote:
(Why am I actually replying to this thread? This seems like a mistake.)
If the current set of Exceptional Stories follows the theme Heart's Blood...
What theme would this follow?
What might the other 2 or 3 stories be? (Would there be a two-part story?)
What theme-related unique items would they give? edited by Cimanyd on 12/22/2015
(Please...stop...don't reply to it..ARGGGGH!) Actually, this story is Number Two.
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12/20/2015
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This was not an image I needed at this time of the day. Really.
(No, really though, it gave me a good laugh )
I'm fairly sure there was some form of plumbing by the time the 1890s rolled around... I mean, if London was taken in the 1860s, there might be a good chance there was some rudimentary form of sewage treatment in place already. However, the sewage back then was instead washed out to sea... so would the citizens be dumping tonnes of waste into the Zee instead? If they're not using chamberpots, I mean.
-- Siana, the reckless and inquisitive Author.
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12/20/2015
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the truthseeker wrote:
Finally, besides the normal creatures used for composting such as earthworms and so forth-and I shutter to think of this concept-there may be creatures that seek out this stuff as a delicacy and it is...fed to them en masse. I've technically read weirder in this realm (but not by much) so such stuff could be collected and shipped by "whatever untouchable class" there is that gathers wherever this stuff is eventually hauled or dropped to. Rubbery Men will always take one's crap, literally or figuratively.
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12/21/2015
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This makes me wonder how the Topsy King and the other denizens of the Flit relieve themselves... They're certainly not the paragon of cleanliness.
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12/21/2015
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^ *Throws FATE at computer screen until FBG makes this a real Exceptional Story*
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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12/21/2015
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
I REGRET NOTHING (Also you guys are the best for the educated discussion)
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Pyrodinium wrote:
^ *Throws FATE at computer screen until FBG makes this a real Exceptional Story*
Also throws FATE until...umm....something sticks.
Maybe will just keep his exceptional friendship and hopes for it to be a story there in the House of Chimes very soon instead.
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12/21/2015
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Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Everybody posting to this thread has lost 10 CP Persuasive and gained 5 CP Scandal. Those reading it have gained 2 CP Scandal.
Thank goodness that the Tomb-Colonists are capable of defending their bandages otherwise things can get quite ugly when the posters come to visit bearing chamberpots.
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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12/21/2015
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Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Everybody posting to this thread has lost 10 CP Persuasive and gained 5 CP Scandal. Those reading it have gained 2 CP Scandal.
And everyone reading and posting has lost 10 points of Sanity. Hmmm.... There's a thought--for another thread.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Jacke Calling cards and social actions welcome. No boxed cats; it is cruel and heartless. The 'e' in the name is silent. Be seeing you.
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12/22/2015
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The theme would probably be Justifiably Hidden or something to that effect.
Hmm...you know, that theme seems to fit a certain infamous quest perfectly. Perhaps the final story would lead to a re-introduction of the Mr. Eaten content?
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/myrese A former Constable with a soft spot for children.
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Vavakx Nonexus wrote:
Morkan Kassington wrote:
What did i just read
Some Unexceptionally crappy puns, sir.
Fixed.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Hello! General questions are better directed towards the forum's Weekly Questions sticky. But yes, we do know what Hesperidean Cider does. It's an infinite use item that eliminates Wounds, allows you to escape death in a single action should you end up there, and gives you the 'Taste of the Garden' quality when you drink it that adds (temporarily) several cards into your deck. The text varies, but they increase Nightmares, lower Wounds, and give an Extraordinary Implication in exchange for 1 of said quality when played. Cider can also be shared with a friend to give them a single Taste of the Garden.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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Quite honestly, I believe the Masters collect the unwanted property of those in the Spires, and eat it, for they are full of-
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“Nothing to see here.” -Not the Ministry
-- Pleased to meet you. Ixc, spy and detective. Inventor of the Correspondence Cannon. Are you a Paramount Presence? Record your name here. For posterity, of course.
Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
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12/21/2015
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Where's the exceptional pitch?
-- Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now.
Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender Kelly is taking a long break on isolation.
I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot! I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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12/21/2015
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Come on Emily Short, why hasn't this been started yet?!
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Morkan Kassington wrote:
What did i just read
Some exceptionally crappy puns, sir.
-- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own.

Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness.

Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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I'd always assumed such matters in the Neath were handled by a Harry King-like figure a-la Discworld. People are paid to take it away, and are paid in turn for the stuff by tanneries and such. And given the sort of creatures that have to be processed into saleable goods, you gotta think that a lot of unsavory stuff would be gone through. Plus, the mushroom farms need to get their nutrients from somewhere, right?
Recycling, Fallen London style.
-- "DO NOT TRUST HAPPY ENDINGS. DO NOT FEAR SAD ENDINGS... NEITHER ARE ENDINGS." ~ Mathieu Psmith: The Bard of Lost Children, loving husband, and a fixture of the artistic set. Can never resist making a show of things...
Irene Psmith: Adopted Daughter of Mathieu. Specializes in Information, Acquisitions, and the Acquisition of Information.
Vaughan Montblanc: Once a frontiersman of Western Canada, he now practices medicine in London. His discretion may be absolutely trusted.
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Joseph Bazalgette had already begun his project of modernising the sewers of London as of 1861 - it was still early days, but if the new parliament convened to replace those who had been eaten were still amenable, it's possible the process might have been continued. As noted above, the flush toilet actually dates back to antiquity - but, the aptly-named Mr Crapper was already in the plumbing trade by '61, and it's entirely possible that he lived to implement his own contributions to the field (including a personal favourite, the patented floating ballcock) in the Neath.
Personally, there's two guesses I'm ready to make. One, that Fallen London stinks. Two, that any chasm, ravine or cleft that can be semi-safely accessed serves as a dumping-ground until it either fills up, or whatever dread creature inhabits it comes clambering out to object.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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What did i just read
-- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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9/1/2019
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What in the flying bazaar did I just walk into?
EDIT: And how wasn't I involved in this earlier? edited by Tystefy on 9/2/2019
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7/8/2017
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Seen an in-depth discussion about supernatural defecation ✓
-- I am known as Roberta Anne-Bella in game.
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7/8/2017
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crazyroosterman wrote:
so excuse me if this has already mentioned but is there something the masters excrete?. is maesters blood a lie perhaps to make it sound more exiting?.
It's the coffee you know and love. Bat guano.
-- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Morkan Kassington wrote:
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so excuse me if this has already mentioned but is there something the masters excrete?. is maesters blood a lie perhaps to make it sound more exiting?.
It's the coffee you know and love. Bat guano. that's no problem to me at all after all honey the thing we all know and love prisoners or other wise is....well.....how to put this tactfully......"whispers in your ear its bee puke"
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Morkan Kassington wrote:
Estelle Knoht wrote:
You guys keep it up, I am off edited by Estelle Knoht on 4/30/2016
You will have to explain this one. Why is the Pharoah;s revenge excrement?
(And will there be a part 2?) edited by Morkan Kassington on 5/1/2016
I presume one of the implied references in this exotic line of bathroom humour is to "Montezuma's Revenge", i.e. dysentery, whose symptoms include diarrhea. Customarily associated with places in the tropics--like the Third City perhaps?
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Zoe DeGeest wrote:
I just read all of this! My eyes....
Vavakx Nonexus wrote:
Some exceptionally crappy puns, sir.
You did that on purpose, didbn't you!
More importantly I hope something more will come because I am dying inside from this....
Yes, I know. My puns are shit.
-- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own.

Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness.

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Estelle Knoht wrote:

You guys keep it up, I am off edited by Estelle Knoht on 4/30/2016
You will have to explain this one. Why is the Pharoah;s revenge excrement?
(And will there be a part 2?) edited by Morkan Kassington on 5/1/2016
-- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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I like to think it's all incinerated by correspondence sigils, and then the resulting ash is used to make the bats that fly around the bazaar
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