Puutuulion
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12/18/2015
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I've built up a wealth of cryptic clues (near 10,000) and was wondering if anyone had suggestions. My unmodified skills are all around 100. The most profitable action I can find is "A bag of low quality diamonds" which would earn me ~2 EPA for about 50 actions. Any other recommendations?
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dov
Posts: 2580
12/20/2015
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If it helps:
As part of gradually cashing-in my items towards the Cider, I've converted in the past few weeks 226,000 Cryptic Clues into diamonds.
Of those 1130 attempts, I've encountered the Rare Success 61 times, which is 5.4%. (translates to ~2.068 net EPA, ~6.068 gross EPA)
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lady ciel
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12/18/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
How do you trade Clues for diamonds?
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If you are POSI you can visit Empire Adornments in the Bazaar Sidestreets and trade for a bag of low quality diamonds. There is a rare success as well which makes it worth doing.
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Gonen
Posts: 817
12/18/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
How do you trade Clues for diamonds?
At the Bazaar Side street:
Empire Adornments.
Choose "Bag a low quality diamonds" and 1 in every 20 conversions or so you'll get a magnificent diamond.
Better EPA than just selling the Cryptic Clues (unless you really need to upgrade them instead)
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metasynthie
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12/20/2015
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I've been using that option on a more or less daily basis to convert all my extra cryptic clues for some time now, and I'm pretty positive it's 5% from looking at the data I've got.
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Puutuulion
Posts: 26
12/20/2015
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Gillsing wrote:
Puutuulion wrote:
I've built up a wealth of cryptic clues (near 10,000) and was wondering if anyone had suggestions. My unmodified skills are all around 100. The most profitable action I can find is "A bag of low quality diamonds" which would earn me ~2 EPA for about 50 actions. Any other recommendations?
edited by Puutuulion on 12/18/2015
Couldn't you sell those 10,000 Cryptic Clues at the Bazaar for 200 Echoes, which would be about twice as much as 2 x 50 = 100 Echoes?
Quoted EPA is net. Actual action rewards 6.019 EPA at a cost of 4 EPA's worth of Cryptic Clues, for a net of 2.019 EPA.
In other words, I could sell 10,000 cryptic clues for 200 echoes, or I could use 50 actions to convert them into 300.95 echoes worth of diamonds.
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Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770
12/20/2015
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Gillsing wrote:
Couldn't you sell those 10,000 Cryptic Clues at the Bazaar for 200 Echoes, which would be about twice as much as 2 x 50 = 100 Echoes?
Puutuulion means ~2 EPA net. Gross EPA is 6.019 (assuming a rare success rate of 0.05).
Edit: Puutuulion beat me to it!
edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 12/20/2015
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MrBurnside
Posts: 188
12/19/2015
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The value of Cryptic Clues is pretty much directly proportional to your speed of acquisition.
If you're at the University and can grind them at about 1.75 EPA then they become one of the fastest ways to grind almost any high tier item (that you can get through conversion anyway). The speed of acquiring them usually outway the time lost to conversion. The ability to convert them to both Journals of Infamy and Tales of Terror makes for fewer actions in the T3 carousel and beyond that conversions are pretty profitable on their own. It also improves the A Bag of Low Quality Diamonds option to about 1.89 EPA total.
On the other hand simply getting them through 1 EPA options makes them almost useless for anything but the occasional bribe/content-gate and of course the cost of A Bag of Low Quality Diamonds (giving a 2.2 EPA when ignoring the cost of acquisition).
edited for spelling after writing it on too little sleep
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Grenem
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12/18/2015
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Upcrafting can get you with a foot into every conversion tree, but the EpA is kinda poor. You would get roughly 400 tales/journals, though.
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Kittenpox
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12/20/2015
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Thankyou for this thread! I'd been selling them directly (on occasion) back when my regular grind ran out and I didn't have enough actions to get more Echoes for the item I wanted at the time.
I think I'll start using this method to convert them instead. :-D
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navchaa
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12/21/2015
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Adding to the chime of thank yous! I normally sell off any CCs over 10k.
A secondary question - are flawed diamonds best sold directly to the bazaar or is there yet another conversion to up the echo value further?
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dov
Posts: 2580
12/21/2015
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the truthseeker wrote:
No, look again.
Regular Successes, Rare Successes, Total Successes. That is listing 171 Successful Attempts. It does not list the failures or total attempts. Since this is a Rare Success compilation only, this is why, and why I mentioned the number of iterations before as it won't list Total Attempts there. Please note these details next time should a newer person bring it up to you.
That may be true for other actions which have a possible Rare Success.
But there is no fail condition when converting Cryptic Clues into diamonds. There is no luck challenge involved.
It's just a straightforward action which always succeeds, which has a chance for a Rare Success.
The listed 171 successful attempts in the doc is also the number of total attempts.
The table in the doc lists:
- Regular Success: 160
- Rare Success: 11
- Total Successes: 171
- Rare Success %: 6.43%
My own numbers:
- Regular Success: 1069
- Rare Success: 61
- Total Successes: 1130
- Rare Success %: 5.4%
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Sara Hysaro
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12/21/2015
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It's limited by your Cryptic Clue supply, and the truly grindable methods of getting those aren't quite as good as getting them through opportunity cards like A Visit or The Neath's Mysteries.
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dov
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12/21/2015
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It's ~2 EPA assuming you already have the Cryptic Clues from other sources. If you need to grind for the CC, then EPA is lower.
EDIT: aaaaaand, of course Sara beat me to it :-)
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