Grenem
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12/12/2015
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I could afford the overgoat today, if i liquidated most of my funds... but i'm not sure it's worth it. How useful is the overgoat? Should I wait until i reach 12000 echoes? Should i get it now? What benefits does it offer, besides easier expeditions?
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Lady Sapho Byron
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12/12/2015
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One a scale of 1 to 10 ... it's about a 7.
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suinicide
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12/12/2015
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1) You have a goat.
2) the overgoat card is ~3 echoes per action I think? So that's pretty profitable.
3) Helps raise SoTC at the university due to the watchful boost.
4) Seriously it's a goat and it's awesome.
But if you want to keep some of your items, I don't think there's any harm in waiting.
edited by suinicide on 12/12/2015
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Nigel Overstreet
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12/12/2015
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The Duke of Waltham wrote:
I am too green to even consider the possibility of considering an Overgoat yet. What about an overcoat made of Overgoat leather, though? If you can get close enough to skin it, good on you mate.
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Catherine Raymond
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12/12/2015
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The Overgoat is one of the few companions that gives you both +Dreaded and +Bizarre. The Overgoat gives them at +1 apiece; the Ubergoat, at +2. This can be immensely useful for lowering your cost of Making Waves, and thus for improving Notability.
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Optimatum
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12/13/2015
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Affair of the Box for Mourning Candles is definitely one of the best grinds. War of Assassins for Collections of Curiosities is even better but as it relies on the Tomb-Colonist card it's only worth keeping a few Collections on hand at any given time. The Fidgeting Writer is best done in large batches to reduce potential losses from variation and also less clicking around in general. There was a thread a month or two ago suggesting using a Gang of Hoodlums and the new Topsy King option of one action for 1 CP casing to go on a heist at the law offices with one Inside Information. According to the post the 5-progress reward is consistently better than the 7-progress reward even if you have enough, as the lower one has the chance of giving a Searing Enigma instead. (Plus heists give some MW as a bonus.) Spirifers can grind Souls through Unfinished Business and trade them in for an EPA slightly above the Affair of the Box, while it's of course difficult to compare to the Fidgeting Writer. With high watchful the Gallery of Serpents is very profitable as with certain choices it gives the (always fate-only) unpredictable treasure alongside Uncanny Incanabula and sometimes bonus supplies. Since they're the same fate cost it's not worth grinding the Temple of Uttermost Wind if you have high enough watchful for the Gallery.
I just bought my first Overgoat today after many months slowly grinding alongside stories and seasonal content. I have the Goat Farmer's Browser Extension installed so can see the total echoes I have available at a given time; since I was getting pretty close already I went through all my items and lowered the number I had reserved of most, so was able to find enough extra cash for the last stretch. Even if an Impossible Theorem is super cool, it's pretty useless and costly to make so there's not much point in having ~50 spare enigmas hanging around.
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Nigel Overstreet
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12/12/2015
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Grenem wrote:
Yeah, I think I'll wait then... until I have some spending money and don't have to give up the really rare stuff. This is probably a good plan. A goat is forever. There really is no particular rush to get one. Don't sell anything you'll regret.
The Overgoated list will be here for you whenever you're ready.
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Grenem
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12/12/2015
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Nigel Overstreet wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Yeah, I think I'll wait then... until I have some spending money and don't have to give up the really rare stuff. This is probably a good plan. A goat is forever. There really is no particular rush to get one. Don't sell anything you'll regret.
The Overgoated list will be here for you whenever you're ready.
and of course, some things are without price. one of them is being able to do the 8 ppa expedition grind without guilt or worry. (The most action efficient reproducable tears source, ofc.) I suspect i'd have the goat sooner, elsewise.
edited by Grenem on 12/12/2015
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Erika
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12/14/2015
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I can 100% confirm that Spirifing is better than Affair of the Box but beneath Collections of Curiosities.
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12/13/2015
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thedeadlymoose wrote:
As a new owner of an Overgoat, two significant benefits have presented themselves:
- The obvious: Watchful score goes much higher. Mandatory for things like increasing SotC if that's what you want to do, and useful for Watchful-scaling checks like The Mechanics Of Progress card.
- I consistently get Storm-Threnodies & Bazaar Permits from the 8-action card option. With the goat's Watchful boost, I get a 50ish percent chance and a single second chance gives two tries. Storm-Threnodies are grind-able through other methods, but they're a pain.
Bonus, which doesn't apply to me (since I own a Bifurcated Owl):
- Max Companion BDR without Fate (+2). You can also go to Polythreme to get an Unfinished Hat, mind you, which is easier now that zailing is easier.
Once I get the chance, I'm gonna grind for the Ubergoat so I can 100% the 3-supply Expedition check (plus more SotC). (An Extraordinary Mind or Watchful Destiny owner would probably make do with just an Overgoat.)
One reason I'm very pleased with my Overgoat is that I never sold anything I regretted selling. If anything, I was excessively cautious about that. If you're not sure it's worth liquidating all your possessions to get an Overgoat, then definitely don't do it.
Stupid question, but you mean the Overgoat's card, right
Also, for all, is there a specific grind for the Goat or just any cash-grind? If so, what? (It seems some people trade in their items for echoes so not sure if I should do thins or do more like affair of the box candles/Assassins/Curiosities/Maps or risk more luck for Fidgeting writer etc.?) I'm finally at the point where I'm buying the last of the 400+ Echo high-end Bazaar items and am soon able to begin saving up after the holiday.
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