BlakeTheDrake
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12/7/2015
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So, THAT was what was behind the 7th window of the advent-calendar... a very rare, very dangerous item!
Now, here's my problem: Nevermind what can be gained from it, my pack-rat instinct tells me to keep it, since it's extremely rare - just for my collection! But the warnings that it may spontaneously come alive and steal all my candles if ignored for too long are...worrying. >_>; Is it actually true? Can it self-destruct even if I never try to use it? And if so, is it an eventual certainty, or just a tiny chance of something that MAY happen?
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Alexis Kennedy
Posts: 1374
12/7/2015
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Theus wrote:
My guess is that this is a Ratmas strikes back item, and that there exists a button that Alexis can push at some point that sends out a living story tied to anyone currently in possession of a Rat of Glory, and it's not coded to be random per instance.
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vitamancy
Posts: 43
12/7/2015
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Well now we know what happened to all the anti-candles. Clearly the Rats of Glory consumed them all just as Neathmas was beginning.
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NiteBrite
Posts: 1019
12/7/2015
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Haha, this reminds me of the time I intentionally set off the rat of glory to eat my seeker candles because I wanted to try the new seeking content when it comes out rather than already have all the candles. It took a few of them before I did it, but I was eventually successful. Fun times ;-)
http://britetimes.tumblr.com/post/72297424670/what-candles
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Theus
Posts: 311
12/7/2015
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My guess is that this is a Ratmas strikes back item, and that there exists a button that Alexis can push at some point that sends out a living story tied to anyone currently in possession of a Rat of Glory, and it's not coded to be random per instance.
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KestrelGirl
Posts: 138
12/7/2015
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Joke's on you, Rat of Glory! I don't have anything resembling a candle! (No Luminosity items - because I'm anti-Revolutionaries - or Foxfire Candles, and I missed SMEN by quite a bit. Hehe.)
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Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518
12/7/2015
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Optimatum wrote:
As far as we know, the Rat of Glory only steals candles on a rare success of using it.
That's not my experience. My alt tried to burn it for Enigmas, failed the Watchful check, and lost both Foxfire Candles (only 18, I think, but still) and some Mourning Candles (a smallish number, but still).
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Jarvind
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12/7/2015
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Optimatum wrote:
Also besides SMEN candles, we only seem to know of rats taking 1-75 Foxfire Candlestubs, 1-14 Mourning Candles, and 1 Chrysalis Candle. I doubt any non-candle Luminosity items are at risk.
I can confirm that they can take way more - I had 50 Mourning Candles and they're all gone.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
12/8/2015
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....... I feel rather foolish. I thought it was Scuttling Squid. The mental image was...confusing.
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Hobnail
Posts: 179
12/8/2015
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Oh such a season of CHANGE! What fun what fun what FUN!
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
12/8/2015
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"Many" Chin wrote:
wow. got 6(!) Searing Enigmas out of a single Rat 'o' Glory. i think it's worth the risk of asking people to send you the waxy rats just for that.
Except that most people who're sane are just selling mourning candles and then using the rat, since the average return on sucess is 250 echoes. Or, for new players, using it to get skuttering squads.
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dov
Posts: 2580
12/8/2015
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Grenem wrote:
Well, yeah, except seekers seem to be often deliberately losing their candle- nitebrite, for instance- so they can try the new content when it's released, and lose everything all over again.
That's not regular Seekers. That's NiteBrite, who is on a whole different level.
NiteBrite is to other Seekers as Seekers are to normal players. :-)
Personally, I'm not taking any chances with my Seeking candles, despite the potential loss of profits I could have got from activating the Rat of Glory.
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metasynthie
Posts: 645
12/8/2015
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Optimatum wrote:
Well anyone who doesn't want to risk using their Rat of Glory can feel free to send it to me. Then I could use a bunch at once for Science. Or at least for Satistics and Quick Profit.
Sadly for science, you cannot send a Rat of Glory to someone who already has one; otherwise it'd be interesting to try and accumulate 7.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
12/7/2015
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Also besides SMEN candles, we only seem to know of rats taking 1-75 Foxfire Candlestubs, 1-14 Mourning Candles, and 1 Chrysalis Candle. I doubt any non-candle Luminosity items are at risk.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
12/9/2015
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dov wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
Well anyone who doesn't want to risk using their Rat of Glory can feel free to send it to me.
Though isn't it the same risk whether you use the rat or send it to someone? The only safe option is to turn it into a Scattering Squad.
Though it may be possible for it to activate on sending, I don't believe we've ever seen it happen.
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
12/9/2015
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I just now successfully received one.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
12/8/2015
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Where would we be without Science?
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
12/8/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
Where would we be without Science?
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We'd have magic, ofc. the mages method sounds pretty snazzy, doesn't it.
Any sufficiently mislabled magic is indistiguishable from technology.
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Beatrice_Joan
Posts: 20
12/8/2015
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Grenem wrote:
Beatrice_Joan wrote:
Um, ok - daft question alert. I opened the window, got sent my Rat of Glory but can't find her anywhere in either items or equipment. Is this a glitch or am I being dense - where should she appear??
Ratness. which would be where rats of other types are kept, such as vengerats and, well, generally rats.
Thank you Grenem. For, ahem, making my Glory Rat appear where she *definitely* wasn't last time I looked.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
12/8/2015
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You can only sell it for 10 echoes, so that's a whole lot of creating and sending, especially since the access codes are only good for about five days.
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DeadlyIgi
Posts: 3
12/8/2015
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an_ocelot wrote:
You can only sell it for 10 echoes, so that's a whole lot of creating and sending, especially since the access codes are only good for about five days.
Well you can still burn the bloody thing for enigmas, in worst case scenario you get 60 echoes for 7 actions?
Speaking of rat, has anyone ever ended up with his ratty candle waking up or is the warning a little snippet for the future and it can be safely stashed in my lodgings?
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
12/8/2015
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DeadlyIgi wrote:
an_ocelot wrote:
You can only sell it for 10 echoes, so that's a whole lot of creating and sending, especially since the access codes are only good for about five days.
Well you can still burn the bloody thing for enigmas, in worst case scenario you get 60 echoes for 7 actions?
Duh, sorry; I know where my brain was and it shouldn't have been commenting here. No, the worst case scenario is you burn the thing and it tries to eat your candles and doesn't give you any enigmas--that's the rare success, not the failure! If you had a whole lot of second chances and a very high Watchful (it's 62% at 262 Watchful), you could still profit nicely, but it's pretty tiring to contemplate, honestly.
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metasynthie
Posts: 645
12/8/2015
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Has anyone managed to successfully transfer a Rat of Glory? I'm trying to accept one, but it's saying that the sender no longer has the qualities to send it. The qualities to send it, as far as I can tell are "you must have 1 x Rat of Glory." However, the action to send it removes the Rat of Glory! Thus, it can never be received. I think Mr Lacan would have something to say about this; a letter always arrives at its destination, indeed. grumble grumble jouissance desire schemes of Mr Derrida pout
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Sackville
Posts: 295
12/8/2015
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I echoed the text and took a picture of the outstanding action, and I just checked and the RoG is definitely still in my inventory. I did send mine to Mr Eaten, though, so maybe that's why it's wonky?
More likely, though, something is glitched if it's working differently for you than it did for me.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
Posts: 787
12/8/2015
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So, the Rat of Glory no longer appears to have the 77 Fate branch, correct?..
I've never seen that, so it must've been already removed when I logged in. What did it do?
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
12/8/2015
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Give you enigmas without risking candle-theft.
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Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518
12/8/2015
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Optimatum wrote:
Catherine Raymond wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
As far as we know, the Rat of Glory only steals candles on a rare success of using it.
That's not my experience. My alt tried to burn it for Enigmas, failed the Watchful check, and lost both Foxfire Candles (only 18, I think, but still) and some Mourning Candles (a smallish number, but still).
Are you sure? The wiki only has losing the rat as the result for failure on the check.
Yes, though I probably can't prove it. I should check to see what I echoed to her Journal.
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Ruddertail
Posts: 36
12/8/2015
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It's worth noting that the "rare" success on this seems a lot less rare than beneficial rare successes. Whereas I've been grinding rare successes in the Flit for about 200 actions and not gotten a single one, this one triggered on the third attempt. Yeah, it could be random chance... but it probably isn't.
edited by Ruddertail on 12/8/2015
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metasynthie
Posts: 645
12/8/2015
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You can also have luck challenges followed by a rare success or a rare failure, leading to four outcomes of entirely adjustable %. Not sure if nested is possible though. Rare successes definitely have different frequencies; robbing the drunk rat for a watch is very low, maybe 1% or less, others are as high as 50%. Anecdotal evidence leads me to guess that the Rat of Glory chance of saboteurs is 10%, but you can take that with a grain of salt... especially if you are terrified of losing candles.
On the other hand I suspect the things about your Rat of Glory blowing up at any time or upon being sent to a friend are just tales to scare small chandlers. Nobody's ever seen it happen. There's no evidence it's possible (without a lot of code rewriting and database scraping). That Armageddon switch isn't real. Or is it? OR IS IT?!
Well you could find out, send me your Rats of Glory for science! 
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Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751
12/8/2015
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Well if you want to go crazy, I assume you can like have four success each linking to another storylet with more success linking to more storylet and.....
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
12/7/2015
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Theus wrote:
My guess is that this is a Ratmas strikes back item, and that there exists a button that Alexis can push at some point that sends out a living story tied to anyone currently in possession of a Rat of Glory, and it's not coded to be random per instance.
If this image is not also deployed when SMEN returns (in your own time! not nagging!), I shall be very disappointed at the missed opportunity.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
12/7/2015
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Mine did this morning, Genesis. Have they changed?
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Ruddertail
Posts: 36
12/7/2015
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Of course I happened to buy a Scuttering Squad just days before this! Oh well, it's time to squeeze as many enigmas as I can out of this waxen monstrosity.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
12/7/2015
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Optimatum wrote:
As far as we know, the Rat of Glory only steals candles on a rare success of using it.
But just because we haven't found anyone who had the thing come to life on its own, doesn't mean that it might not happen some day . . . so can you keep your candles & Luminosity stock low? And if not, do you feel lucky?
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ganjalf91
Posts: 87
12/7/2015
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Probably its just there to scare people, since someone have kept one for years and its still there. But maybe he was very lucky, or maybe they changed the RoG. So: Its likely harmless, but theres a chanche you'll somedays get a very explosive Time the Healer
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Xane Al-Rahibi
Posts: 78
12/7/2015
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I just traded the thing in for a Scuttering Squad
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