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Schmidt
Schmidt
Posts: 114

12/1/2015
In my quest for the aforementioned bottle, I find myself grinding out broken giant from the velocity de squad to up convert. My basic goal is to get my bottle before de gustibus arrives and was hoping from some advice from our more seasoned veterans, being a relatively fresh POSI myself. Any advice helps.

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Sackville
Sackville
Posts: 295

12/1/2015
I believe that grinding Absinthe via AotB is slightly ahead of Velocipede Squad, if your shadowy is high. You need to spend more actions converting, but AotB is more profitable even if you're not taking candles.

The other way to accelerate the grind is to visit the Nadir every week and try to find The End of Battles. You can trade 3 sudden insights for an Airag, which saves you a bit of grinding and a draw of the Portly Sommelier card.

Finally, if you don't need your Taste of Lacre for anything else, you can also trade 7 points of it to directly get a Tear of the Bazaar in the Nadir with the Catalfaqerie card. That saves a bunch of grinding and card draws.
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Kaigen
Kaigen
Posts: 530

12/1/2015
The big limiter is probably going to be Presumptuous Opportunity draws. You can grind up lower wines and convert them to cellars of wine all you want, but you still need the Portly Sommelier for Cellars->Airag->Tears->Blood. Getting Airag directly (or Tears with Lacre) can save you some draws, and if your BDR is good enough to make Notability 7 relatively painless to achieve, you can grab Favorable Circumstances to force a draw and keep things moving. Just remember that you'll also need Notability for the final conversion to blood.

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Optimatum
Optimatum
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12/1/2015
I think it's much more efficient to use Connected: Docks for supplies. My quick estimate gives 5 actions for 3 supplies without any outside supply of items: 1.5 to get glim through Unfinished Business in Spite, three actions to turn it to Connected via the Tankard, 0.5 actions to get 50 rostygold (the five-action Watchmaker's Hill UB option averages 500), and finally one action to spend the rostygold and connected for supplies.

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Grenem
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12/1/2015
Schmidt wrote:
Hmm. Perhaps I don't need another remote lodging this year. I already have the Marsh House. So if I were to get the Suite at the Beth, and the Noman at his cheapest (with intent to gain an elemental secret) how would I best go about gathering my Lacre? Might I then be able to use spare taste on tears in the Nadir?

any option gives you a bucket of so-called snow, except the fate one.

If you do not buy any, you should get 5 this season, plus the days of Mr. sacks. if you have SOTC 10, you should be able to get 3 points TOL per bucket up to 6, then use sacks for #7, Then cash in at nadir and repeat.

If you use the last 2 buckets optimally, and reach your 7-8's by sacksmas cards, you should be able to get 1 vial of tears.

Assuming optimal choices- unlikely, if you don't use the wiki but likely if you do: Mr. sacks should give 4 points and 2 bucket, which means the optimal route is probably as follows, assuming you aren't going to trade night-whispers and storm-threnodies for lacre:
1.
Grab the bucket each week, every week, including the one from the advent calendar. this will give you 5 buckets.
2.
Use 2 buckets for 6 ToL (if you're buying buckets in large quantities, using 3 for 7 is more viable, but given your limitations... 6 ToL it is.)

Use a days of mr. sacks, or an advent calendar card to reach TOL 7. (this order can be swapped.)

immidiately after you draw that card, Cash in at nadir- hopefully, you can draw the needed card on the first try. if not, chance a second try. If that fails as well, this might not be viable- doing this will delay the noman, after all- and Mr. sacks day 2 doesn't show up until Dec. 26th. Whether you suceed or fail, don't hold onto your current state when the 12th day has been released.

3.
Cash in. reach ToL 6 again from buckets, then keep doing Mr. sacks. until you unlock the wicket. you should have one bucket left, and with optimal choices, no less than ToL 8, possibly ToL 9 or ToL 10.

Buy the lodgings of choice in the wicket-gate.

Leave wicket gate

Use bucket of lacre for +3

Buy the noman in the wicket-gate.

if you have more buckets, use them to reach ToL 7 and cash in again. If you have ToL 1 or 2, you can reach tears level with 2 buckets, if you have ToL0 you'll need 3, but you can use the 1-ToL action in the wicket, to go to 5, then use another bucket, so as to get 8, rather than 7, ToL out of it.

Remember to cash in all buckets by Feb 1st- though de gustibus shows up on the 30th-31st if we follow last year's schedule.

You should, ideally, get 1-2 Tears out of this, though if you pay the urchin's prices you might get 3 or more.

If it comes down to the wire on your last bucket- if you're close to 7, but not close enough, you can gamble with tears. 20% of the time, the tears will be lost, though, so i'd only do it if you're within 2 points- so that at worst, you break even.

Here's a listing of the options in sacksmas for lacre:

Rupho Schartenhauer wrote:

Day 2: The day with the most options: for ToL +1 you can give him Greyfields First Sporing, or play on your Violin (the latter needs Connected: The Masters 2). If you have neither, "Take my good name" is another option (requires Connected: Bohemians 20, Society 20, GreatGame 20, Masters 1, Notability 1). Or you can give him a Touching Love Story (caps at ToL 5)
Day 4: Today you "only" have to decide whether you'll want to spend Fate!
Day 5: Align yourself with the Celestial school of poetry at the Singing Mandrake and "Give Him Your Dream of Skies Untainted" for ToL +1
Day 8: Invite the man in whether you know him already or not, and receive ToL +1 for the cost of a single bottle of Greyfields 1882.
Day 9: "Accept his Heart and Lights" will get you a Pail of Lacre!
Day 11: Now's the time to be a Doctor or Notary as only they will receive a further ToL +1.
Day 12: "Take Advantage of the Situation" will get you ToL +1 and a Pail of Lacre! Note that this is a rather heartless choice that some role-playing characters might feel uncomfortable with.

edited by Rupho Schartenhauer on 11/9/2015

edited by Grenem on 12/1/2015
edited by Grenem on 12/1/2015

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