malthaussen
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11/28/2015
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***************** Some spoilers ahead
I am informed I need the Bringer of Death quality as one means of advancing the PoSI story line. Since I am soft-hearted (we'll say nothing of my head), I let the first opportunity slip by, which seems to leave two possibilities. Since I am not very far along in the Cheesemonger's story (level 5), it appears killing Captain Vendrick is the only remaining option. Which leads to a question:
Since one needs 5 levels in Fearsome Duellist to advance the Making Your Name content, if one only has, say, 2 in that quality at the moment, will Captain Vendrick still be available to duel, or is he gone for good? If the latter, it would appear that Chi Lan or Signore Feducci are the only remaining options to achieve level five. In which case, would it not be advisable to get one's Duellist to 4 through Mr Inch before the main event, as it were?
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John Savage
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11/28/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
***************** Some spoilers ahead
I am informed I need the Bringer of Death quality as one means of advancing the PoSI story line. Since I am soft-hearted (we'll say nothing of my head), I let the first opportunity slip by, which seems to leave two possibilities. Since I am not very far along in the Cheesemonger's story (level 5), it appears killing Captain Vendrick is the only remaining option. Which leads to a question:
Since one needs 5 levels in Fearsome Duellist to advance the Making Your Name content, if one only has, say, 2 in that quality at the moment, will Captain Vendrick still be available to duel, or is he gone for good? If the latter, it would appear that Chi Lan or Signore Feducci are the only remaining options to achieve level five. In which case, would it not be advisable to get one's Duellist to 4 through Mr Inch before the main event, as it were?
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Unless you have killed Vendrick already, he should be available.... he won't fight you if your Wounds are too high either.... there is another associated with that storyline that can be killed permanently as well
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Grenem
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11/28/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
***************** Some spoilers ahead
I am informed I need the Bringer of Death quality as one means of advancing the PoSI story line. Since I am soft-hearted (we'll say nothing of my head), I let the first opportunity slip by, which seems to leave two possibilities. Since I am not very far along in the Cheesemonger's story (level 5), it appears killing Captain Vendrick is the only remaining option. Which leads to a question:
Since one needs 5 levels in Fearsome Duellist to advance the Making Your Name content, if one only has, say, 2 in that quality at the moment, will Captain Vendrick still be available to duel, or is he gone for good? If the latter, it would appear that Chi Lan or Signore Feducci are the only remaining options to achieve level five. In which case, would it not be advisable to get one's Duellist to 4 through Mr Inch before the main event, as it were?
-- Mal
If you have dealt with the drownie, you will fight to the death with him. if you haven't, he'll duel for fun. either way, he requires a certain lack of wounds, and losing will be quite painful. If you spared the drownie, he'll fight to the death with you now.
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malthaussen
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11/28/2015
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Yes, I know he'll fight to the death now. The question is, when I kill him (because it's not something I'll likely leave to chance) is he gone for good? In which case, should I probably duel Inch first, and get my Duellist up to four?
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Sestina Valdis
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11/28/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
Yes, I know he'll fight to the death now. The question is, when I kill him (because it's not something I'll likely leave to chance) is he gone for good? In which case, should I probably duel Inch first, and get my Duellist up to four?
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Yes to both. Might as well take advantage of Vendrick being there if you are going to go the BoD route.
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malthaussen
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11/28/2015
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Thank you, Sestina m'dear. That was what I thought, but this being such a fraught path, it is well to have all my ducks in a row.
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
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Sestina Valdis
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11/28/2015
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Easier to impale them that way.  Let me know if you need any help with wounds... Have you gone down the river yet? Unless you have compelling RP reasons to not die, you might find the trip quite interesting.
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malthaussen
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11/28/2015
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I've heard much about that journey, yes, but Mal is in agreement with Dylan Thomas (who of course hasn't been born yet). He'll try to avoid dying until it becomes expedient. More of a vanity thing than anything.
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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11/28/2015
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(Warning: links could contain spoilers.)
I thought I'd just say (and all options here are fine, including Killing for the Cheesemonger [and making the check if you don't want a Boat Ride yourself] or killing the Cheesemonger with her daughter) that the Bringer of Death option you list for PoSI advancement is just one of several gateways of Progression at that point. You listed the Dangerous option. As you can see, there are four stat-related methods (plus one fate Locked option I can't discuss here.) Personally, if not going for the more risky Cheesemonger outcomes (and once you het level 6 and meet an Urchin, it really progresses forward and without card-drawing delays,) I find the Because you watch from the shadows one easier (after all, you can build up casing to a 100% check to succeed at Master Thief, which is now required in Shadowy's Making your Name.)
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malthaussen
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11/28/2015
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Yes, I'd like to complete the journey without bloodshed (or whatever these people have inside) and without being kicked out of University or Court. Completing the Cheesemonger would be ideal, but not only are Barrister cards not flipping for me, neither are Cheesemonger cards. Good to know, though, that it becomes non card-dependent soon. I may end up taking that route anyway. But within constraints as I've outlined them, the only course under my control is Black Ribbon duels, so that's what I'm doing now.
I had thought the Cheesmonger was an endless loop, since I kept getting the same cards over and over. Now that I know better, I get none. C'est la vie, or perhaps guerre.
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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11/28/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
Yes, I'd like to complete the journey without bloodshed (or whatever these people have inside) and without being kicked out of University or Court. Completing the Cheesemonger would be ideal, but not only are Barrister cards not flipping for me, neither are Cheesemonger cards. Good to know, though, that it becomes non card-dependent soon. I may end up taking that route anyway. But within constraints as I've outlined them, the only course under my control is Black Ribbon duels, so that's what I'm doing now.
I had thought the Cheesmonger was an endless loop, since I kept getting the same cards over and over. Now that I know better, I get none. C'est la vie, or perhaps guerre.
-- Mal
Just for the record, you do not need to be Kicked out of the University (but you do need to be in the University, and investigating the Murders) for Because you have secrets. You need to be at least just at the point where you are about to make the Announcement (after all, how could you be supporting Secrets if you reveal what you are able or not able to share?) You may choose either option to your outcome you see best before or after PoSI advancement that Featuring in the Tales of the University 25 being the minimum value; as long as you have that value or higher, you are qualified for that value (along with A Scholar of the Correspondence 1, 20 Appalling Secrets and Nightmares 5 or higher.)
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malthaussen
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11/28/2015
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Well, the Cheesemonger has started to progress, and I'm awaiting the Urchin now, so that may end up the way I go after all. I wanted to save the duels for later, so that's good.
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
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11/28/2015
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For most of this Mal already knows what I think. Which is basically I completely agree with the Truthseeker - go the Shadowy option. I'll try to keep my eye on your wounds too. Good luck!
- as a side note does anyone know if Bringer of Death has any other in game uses yet? Or is it just a murder-tally? As that might effect some peoples decisions in this. From what I can find already it looks like the later, but I could easily have missed something.
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Sara Hysaro
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11/28/2015
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If you ever get into a State of Some Confusion there's a pretty hilarious bit of text to be found there for those who have this quality. You can also gain the quality through a Fate-locked story without permanently killing anyone, so it's not completely a murder-tally (my main has Bringer of Death 34).
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Charlotte_de_Witte
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Thank-you! You need it at 30 to be able to wield a Ban-hammer right Sara? 
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Sara Hysaro
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No ban-hammer for me - it would be a bit overkill in this nice community. I do bring death to spam on the rare occasion it crops up.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
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11/28/2015
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Hail Sara Hysaro! Slayer of spam! Steely scourge of the unsolicited!-
(In all seriousness thank-you for protecting us, forum spam is awful  )
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Optimatum
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11/30/2015
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One of my friends has Magnanimous 15 and has gone out of his way to never kill anyone, even temporarily, essentially ignoring most of the main Dangerous progression line. He then did the fate-locked story mentioned above and after all the effort spent not acquiring any, his choice at the end landed him with 31 levels of Bringer of Death. Whoops.
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