Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
12/3/2015
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For BDR I think its like all equipment stat boosts in that you change equipment to meet the test. The only BDR test I have encounter so far is drawing my hungover terrier- but i think it gave a good reward in wine. I think that's probably how these values are used for the most part. You get a test that needs them and then switch round your gear to meet the requirement as best you can. In which case getting all as individually high as possible would be best. But I'm sure others here will know far more.
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
12/3/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
I took a friend to Dante's Grille just now. Well, we both had 16 MW, and she's not doing anything with hers -- and as I expected, having served as lunch before, her MW went down to 8, but I only received 2 MW in return. Does the RNG come into play at these dinners? Ten echoes for 2 lousy MW is no cost-effective trade, however delightful the company.
Are Private Dinners a better choice than Dante's, then, for MW also? No 10 quid opportunity cost would seem to make a bit of a difference.
A separate question, in reference to BDR. One assumes there are three values for a reason. Is it considered best to have as nearly equal quantities of B, D, and R as possible? Does a greater quantity of one open a door or unlock an opportunity than would an equal amount spread out? Or does it not matter much in the end? It is of some consequence when getting things such as transport... which reminds me, can one have both a sedan chair and a landau?
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Private dinners are generally agreed to be superior to dante's, at least once you factor out the echo cost.
BDR are generally equilvalent, but there are situations where you have a challenge for one or another. Maybe you need to seem respectable in front of parthenaum, or use how Dreaded you are to terrify some criminals into submission (heists have an actual dreaded challenge). There are no documented cases of needing over 10 for certain success, AFAIK.
All connection pets have a challenge for their own BDR variant.
However, notability is the main use, and for that they are equivalent.
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Travers
Posts: 98
12/3/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
A separate question, in reference to BDR. One assumes there are three values for a reason. Is it considered best to have as nearly equal quantities of B, D, and R as possible? Does a greater quantity of one open a door or unlock an opportunity than would an equal amount spread out? Or does it not matter much in the end? It is of some consequence when getting things such as transport... which reminds me, can one have both a sedan chair and a landau? There are a few challenges for each BDR quality (e.g., Finding the Screaming Map) but it is more important to try to get the total BDR value as high as possible. On your other question, you can definitely get both the sedan chair and the landau.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
12/4/2015
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Without being too spoiler-y, I'd appreciate advice on how much Casing a gent with 117 Shadowy and a boatload of Shadowy Second Chances should pile up to gank the offices at Concord Square. I read somewhere that Inside Information is better than an Escape Route, the question then becomes how much I.I. I should buy. I don't want to overprepare too much, but I also don't want to blow it.
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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Zareen Bakara
Posts: 66
12/4/2015
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With regard to heists, I wouldn't bother with any more than 30CP of casing: 15 to begin the heist, and 15 for 3 pieces of Inside Information. You can quickly get that with two instances of the fail-proof PoSI casing method (5 actions x 2). If that was too spoilery, I apologise. 
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
12/4/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
Without being too spoiler-y, I'd appreciate advice on how much Casing a gent with 117 Shadowy and a boatload of Shadowy Second Chances should pile up to gank the offices at Concord Square. I read somewhere that Inside Information is better than an Escape Route, the question then becomes how much I.I. I should buy. I don't want to overprepare too much, but I also don't want to blow it.
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People happen to have different preferences, but I actually like the escape route myself, particularly without a 4 card lodging. I do up to level 8 casing (easiest with the Gang, to be sure), bringing two inside information and an escape route. I like safety nets.
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Kaigen
Posts: 530
12/4/2015
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I recently did it with my alt using a four card lodging and easily got through with two Inside Information; that's with an expensive item that helps out and knowing what to pick on each option. If you're going in blind, it'd probably be good to take an escape route until you get the lay of the land.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
12/4/2015
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I only have a three-card right now, but I have build up to 9 Casing, two Inside Information, and an Escape Route. Sufficient? I'm willing to blow a few more actions if further insurance is advisable. Does the Inside Information and Escape Route evaporate at the end of the job?
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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Zareen Bakara
Posts: 66
12/4/2015
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For the record, the character I was using with the three pieces of Inside Info has a 3-card lodging (she's stealing bazaar permits to get her 4-card lodging). She's done ten heists so far with this method and has always succeeded.
Edit: Yes, you lose any unspent resources at the end of the heist. I think you have enough stuff.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
12/4/2015
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Yes, that went well. The reward was kind of meh, but better capers await.
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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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th8827
Posts: 823
12/5/2015
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I am now officially a POSI.
I have already passed all the checks to get a ship. It said that if I choose one, it will be hard to change. I want the Zubmarine, but it looks hard to make...
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
12/5/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
Yes, that went well. The reward was kind of meh, but better capers await.
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Really? the reward felt amazing to me. just so many stat points- it'd normally take like 3x as much grinding to get stats of that magnitude. i am assuming you did the heist name thing, and not another repeatable heist.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
12/5/2015
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th8827 wrote:
I am now officially a POSI.
I have already passed all the checks to get a ship. It said that if I choose one, it will be hard to change. I want the Zubmarine, but it looks hard to make...
The Zub is a bit of a grind but there is no reason not to take the basic ship, which costs a few relics, first. You don't have to repeat the first stages of getting a ship when you want to change and that way you can go zailing, see what's out there and then get all the components you need for the Zub (or any other ship).
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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Blitherington Smythe
Posts: 28
12/5/2015
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I also have recently - well, it feels recently, but now I check my calendar it seems my celebratory honey-addled debauchery has lasted for nearly a month! - been scouted out by the Ambitious Barrister and made my initial forays into the sidestreets.
I've spent most of the time since then focusing on getting a four-card lodging, but now that's done I see a whole world of opportunities opening up before me and like you folks I feel a little lost.; as lost as when I first escaped from - er, had my carriage bring me down into the Neath in entirely respectable circumstances. Ahem. I think this thread is a great idea!
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
12/5/2015
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Well done th8827! That's brilliant! I had not even started looking at a ship yet, too busy fighting for BDR and Waves.
Welcome and congratulations to you too Blitherington Smythe! I've almost enough of you now to carry my Sedan-chair!
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"Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."
Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
12/5/2015
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@Blitherington-Smythe: congratulations and welcome! So glad to have someone else to distract from Lady Charlotte's gentle attentions! But why don't you echo anything in your journal? It's nice for the voyeurs to see where one has been.
@Th8827: Well done, I'm nowhere near ready for a ship myself. I keep getting distracted by shiny new things... oh look, a Newspaper!
@Charlotte: I think that makes four minions, doesn't it? Maleclypse, Blitherington-Smyth, Th8827, and your humble obedient?
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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
12/5/2015
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Such insolence from the back ranks! 
“I am that woman whose works are good.
Under my veil is kingly power.
The curtain of chastity is my strength
where the idle westwind travelers cannot pass.
I withhold the beauty of my shadow
from the sun that gads about in the marketplace.
I hold lordship over all the world
yet before the Lord my business is to serve.
Two yards of veil won’t make any woman a lady
nor a hat make any head worth of command.
For whom should I remove my veil
when in its place would be a priceless crown?
I am a ruler from the dynasty of Ologh Soltan.
If there is sovereignty in this world,
it takes after us.”
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Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!
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th8827
Posts: 823
12/5/2015
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I picked the Master Thief prize from the A Rainbow of Offerings option in the Sidestreets. It gave me almost everything that I needed for the ship. The only thing that I needed to do was go to the Clay Quarter in Ladybone Road for an extra two Hard Backed Laborers.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
12/5/2015
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That is good to know, thank-you! I had been holding off picking until I had a better idea of what I was going to need most.
Sorry if so, but just to check in case not- did you see earlier posts about the potential downsides of the Clay Quarter Strong-backed Labour option?
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Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!
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th8827
Posts: 823
12/5/2015
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I read it, but I'm too poor to afford the Echos at the moment.
What is the best way to get Whirring Contraptions?
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