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Charlotte_de_Witte
Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360

11/30/2015
On the good advice of the kind people who posted before I've been trying my best to get hold of some more BDR items. I have a lot of golden story cards for these in the Bazaar side streets now. All at various degrees of completion.

The final options to get the BDR equipment in these story-lets (the ones I have been able to make my way through to the end of anyway) need items bought from the Bazaar side streets to complete. Gosh! A lot of those are expensive! ( It also appears they can be gained by playing Tournament of Lilies and the like, but that looks a long way off for me, and maybe a little RND reliant?)

My question is do you have any tips on 'grinds' for getting the minor items needed to make things such as Strong-Back labour and Personal recommendations, etc, etc? The two I'm personally closest to are the Stag Club membership and the Gang of Hoodlums. Use of Villains in particular seem like hen teeth.

Maybe this is a case of being patient and working slowly? Perhaps these are suppose to take a long time to get hold of? But maybe you all know that there is one item that is much easier to get at than the others? I would love to be able to push up my notability easier. Thank-you for your help smile

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Sestina Valdis
Sestina Valdis
Posts: 210

11/30/2015
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
On the good advice of the kind people who posted before I've been trying my best to get hold of some more BDR items. I have a lot of golden story cards for these in the Bazaar side streets now. All at various degrees of completion.

The final options to get the BDR equipment in these story-lets (the ones I have been able to make my way through to the end of anyway) need items bought from the Bazaar side streets to complete. Gosh! A lot of those are expensive! ( It also appears they can be gained by playing Tournament of Lilies and the like, but that looks a long way off for me, and maybe a little RND reliant?)

My question is do you have any tips on 'grinds' for getting the minor items needed to make things such as Strong-Back labour and Personal recommendations, etc, etc? The two I'm personally closest to are the Stag Club membership and the Gang of Hoodlums. Use of Villains in particular seem like hen teeth.

Maybe this is a case of being patient and working slowly? Perhaps these are suppose to take a long time to get hold of? But maybe you all know that there is one item that is much easier to get at than the others? I would love to be able to push up my notability easier. Thank-you for your help smile



You might get some storylets that will allow you to grind for those items better; for example, someone might start sending Assassins after you! (This is a grinding carousel that gives you certain items that you can choose from, including Bazaar Permits and Use of Villains.) Also, Wilmot's End is a good location for grinding Whirring Contraptions, Strong-backed Labour, Collated Research and Legal Documents, if your Persuasive and/or Shadowy are high enough.

Instead of using components in the side-streets, you can also up-convert some items into component items for PoSI BDR items. For example, Favours in High Places can be earned by up-converting Stolen Kisses, which can be gained from the 500 glim option on the Gracious Widow card (a PoSI-only opportunity card), among other things.

Some professions also give certain component items. For example, Enforcer (Tier 2) gives Use of Villains each week, whereas Author (Tier 3) gives Cellars of Wine.

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lady ciel
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11/30/2015
I liked Fighting a War of Assassins for Use of Villains; The Acacia and the Butterfly for Strong Backed Labour; Personal Recommendations are a bit harder but A Polite Invitation and going to the party will eventually get you one, it might be better to just buy those from the Sidestreets.

Good Luck.

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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.

No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.

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Travers
Travers
Posts: 98

11/30/2015
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Use of Villains in particular seem like hen teeth.
By Fighting a War of Assassins, you can exchange 2 Dramatic Tension for 2 Use of Villains. To do that, use the Choose an enemy! option at your lodgings and choose to make enemies with "A Ghost Mantled in Shadow".
Edited to Add: By the way, if you did not know, Dramatic Tension can be acquired from multiple sources and then cashed in at any of the reward storylets. The wiki has a table that shows which storylets to use for certain rewards: Dramatic Tension
edited by Travers on 11/30/2015

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Charlotte_de_Witte
Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360

11/30/2015
Thank-you both! I will hope someone (else) starts trying to kill me.

- Is getting Strong Back Labour from Clay street a good option? - I remember seeing something about that last time I was down there.

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"Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."

Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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Sestina Valdis
Sestina Valdis
Posts: 210

11/30/2015
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Thank-you both! I will hope someone (else) starts trying to kill me.

- Is getting Strong Back Labour from Clay street a good option? - I remember seeing something about that last time I was down there.


You're welcome. =)

I did that once, but it increases Ruthless and drops Magnanimous. Not sure if that is ideal for RP purposes.

I also find it troublesome to gather all the components... Rather pay Echoes, to be honest. ._. Or get Labour from laborious grinds.
edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/30/2015

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Travers
Travers
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11/30/2015
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Is getting Strong Back Labour from Clay street a good option? - I remember seeing something about that last time I was down there.
I prefer to spend actions more than items so the Dramatic Tension grinds are better to me.

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Charlotte_de_Witte
Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360

11/30/2015
Thank-you too- Professor Durward smile

Sestina Valdis wrote:


You're welcome. =)

I did that once, but it increases Ruthless and drops Magnanimous. Not sure if that is ideal for RP purposes.

I also find it troublesome to gather all the components... Rather pay Echoes, to be honest. ._. Or get Labour from laborious grinds.
edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/30/2015


A shame. I had thought it would be more along the lines of getting some strong Golem-y chaps to carry my luggage around than cruel whip cracking. :/
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/30/2015

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"Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."

Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

11/30/2015
I've bought a couple of Clay Men myself, but only to free them. Call me the Great Emancipator. Very like the golems in Pratchett's Night Watch stories.

-- Mal

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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

12/1/2015
Okay, Charlotte, say hello to your new minion. I am a PoSI now! Just got in at 2000 local, which is good because I usually go to bed around 2130. However, I reckon I may just stay up a bit later today.
Ah, so many lovely things to do, now.
And my 400th post, there's something significant in that, if I could just work out what it is. Well, "post" and "posi" only have one different letter...
Oh, and goodie, somebody already wants to kill me. I feel so special!

-- Mal
edited by malthaussen on 12/1/2015

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Guest

12/1/2015
For clarity's sake, the Bazaar side street's Visit the workshops of the Great Downward Engineering Company then choosing Hire Strong Backed Labour is 13.50 Echoes per Labour, (no quirk change and no other changes besides you Echoes) so can be costly for new Posi (as well as not hiring Clay men, but blokes of a Brutish sort.) Recruit Clay Man labour is at their residence, The Clay Quarters accessible at Ladybones road, and does the Ruthless raising/Magnanimous lowering quirks as noted. Its "recruiting" cost is 200 Moon-pearls, 200 Pieces of Rostygold, 7 Compromising Documents, and 1 An Identity Uncovered! (And two of these items in the list cannot be bought directly, only upconverted up to twice or won through other stories, but the value comes pretty darn close to 13.50 echoes buying Market value for all of them.)
If not looking to spend/change quirks, the Wilmot's End option still is Best for Labour (there are options from A Rainbow of Offerings, but it's best to decide what is the hardest for you to acquire overall offered at the location, and get that one-time reward there. You have until your base stat is 200 and you choose a PoSI specialty, so no rush on this.)



For those looking to "start" Fighting a War of Assassins after becoming a PoSI, either draw the standard-frequency card 'By the Way, Someone is Trying To Kill You.' (and gain1 Scrap of Incendiary Gossip plus 10 cp of Making Waves up to rank 16,) or choose the Assassins storyette from the Local Gossip (you get the 1 Scrap of Incendiary Gossip, but no 10 cp MW.)
Getting the Use of Villains with this option carousel is the best way when turns are more valued than items/money. I recently used this for my first Alternate so I will personally vouch for its use.
You can select your reward for this (the first time it's enabled, and for all future prize switching) in your Lodgings. Don't forget to switch your reward when you have your quota (I prefer A Collection of Curiosities, but whatever works best after your Gang of Hoodlums.)
For the best ways of getting the rest of the stuff, the when-stats-were-closer-to-100-capped
location End Game Grinding still has excellent suggestions, as in we all are still using it today. Overall, this is best used to guide you for many component-related options, but does have location suggestions (like the Fidgeting Writer case with Tales of Terror.) Personal Recommendations are still best gotten from "A Polite Invitation," as that Value does not go down until you turn it in for that or a Favours in High Places. (You can win the PR at a Tournament of Lilies, but by the time you get the Plant to a high enough level to win (luck factor included,) it will be a long time from now. The same is true winning the Book of Hidden Bodies from them.)


If you have any other PoSI-related questions, keep asking them here or send me a PM and we'll be glad to further help.
Edit: and grats of your 400th post malthaussen! I'm "only" around 321 at the time of this reply, if that means anything.
edited by the truthseeker on 12/1/2015
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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

12/1/2015
I am deducing that most BDR items are available via Opportunity Cards, with the components coming from the Side Streets or elsewhere, is this correct?

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Charlotte_de_Witte
Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360

12/1/2015
Yup, they appear as golden cards. You pass the test on them and a golden story opens up in Bazaar Side Streets - you grind those for a while and eventually they'll mug you for your wallet.

Also Yay! Well done Mal! What did you do to poor Alice in the end? PM me. Also go listen to all the celebratory music in the original post while I get the shears. Jippee! We have our first court Eunuch!

- Thank-you The Truthseeker! That has answered question I hadn't even thought to ask yet smile
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/1/2015

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"Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."

Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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Schmidt
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Posts: 114

12/1/2015
Congratulations, Mal! You'll be a welcome addition to the community of oh so important people of London.

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I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

12/1/2015
Someone mentioned somewhere that a PoSI could adopt the Author profession without using the Bohemians card (and thus avoiding a 60 quid opportunity cost!). Is that another of those gold card options?

-- Mal

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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Sestina Valdis
Sestina Valdis
Posts: 210

12/1/2015
malthaussen wrote:
Someone mentioned somewhere that a PoSI could adopt the Author profession without using the Bohemians card (and thus avoiding a 60 quid opportunity cost!). Is that another of those gold card options?

-- Mal



Congratulations, Mal! smile

http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Become_an_Author
^ Hello, is it this you're looking for? (Lionel Ritchie has been stuck in my head for awhile, and I haven't even heard the whole song...)

I would personally go for the traditional route. Notability can be harder to come by than 60 quid! Also, that card can be a pain to draw sometimes, as you'll soon figure out... ._.
edited by Sestina Valdis on 12/1/2015

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Lady Taimi Felix
Lady Taimi Felix
Posts: 202

12/1/2015
malthaussen wrote:
Someone mentioned somewhere that a PoSI could adopt the Author profession without using the Bohemians card (and thus avoiding a 60 quid opportunity cost!). Is that another of those gold card options?



Yes, on the an Unsigned Message card, which requires Notability 2.

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maleclypse
maleclypse
Posts: 259

12/1/2015
I have achieved my velocipede. No one happens to have a spare notability lying around do they? Or are there other options than the roughly 30 echoes purchase of a slowcakes entry? I basically blew all my echoes getting to POSI and would rather not have to sell off a bunch of items just to get the echoes.

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Sara Hysaro
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12/1/2015
It doesn't look like you need an Entry into Slowcake's Exceptionals to qualify for a gift of one point of Notability, but you'll definitely need one to raise it higher than that. It's probably best to put raising it on hold until much later on anyways; getting Notability without the BDR you get from POSI items is challenging and not really worth the spent actions.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360

12/1/2015
Also try asking the nice people here smile

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Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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