Andrew Astherson
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11/16/2015
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It is not a secret that demographic stats are usually unproportioned. There are a lot of divisionings that divide (and characterize via obtained proportions) social groups: net worth and income, profession and education, demographic profile (age, gender) and even religion. Prolonged observation of this thread made me curious about avaliable patrons quantity and their most or least popular specializations.
Is there any corellation between whom newer players want to see as their patrons and those who are avaliable to be someones mentors ?
Perhaps we may find that out if we gather some statistic data. So, do you care to share with the data you might have ? To make this little survey more accurate please write your alts POSI specs in the comments.
Additionals: 0 EM; 0 IE; 2 SF; 2 LC
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Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin.
Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective
> My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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Diptych
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11/16/2015
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Sir Fred's a Mind, Hubris is a Force, Juniper will be an Eminence, Esther will be a Charisma. Doctor Taupe-Wainscot, naturally, will be a Paramount Presence. (Doctor Taupe-Wainscot will almost certainly not be a Paramount Presence.)
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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RandomWalker
Posts: 948
11/16/2015
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I've decided to not commit to any specialisation, because one day the route to paramount presence will be found (okay, it will probably never be found, but I can dream, okay?), and I don't want to be denied the option. Being an extraordinary mind would actually be useful to me, so I'd go with that if it wasn't irrevocable.
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Andrew Astherson
Posts: 118
11/17/2015
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The Master wrote:
What do Invisible eminence and shattering force actually change other than allowing you to get those stats to 215?
edited by The Master on 11/17/2015
If those 15 additional points are not enough, than maybe RP reasons and the ability to help people to upgrade those stats.
PS: I accidently pushed "report to moderator" button instead of "Reply with quote"... Clumsy me (Shadowy is decreasing...)
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> Currently open for RP:
Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin.
Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective
> My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
11/16/2015
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"Specialization is for insects." Robert Anson Heinlein.
There should be a title for maxing everything. After all. some people aspire to be polymaths even if they can't do arithmetic.
-- Mal
edited by malthaussen on 11/16/2015
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Saevitia
Posts: 58
12/26/2015
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I specialized about fifteen minutes ago as a Shattering Force. I'm not sure what exactly to do with it now that I've got it, though.
Saevitia, bless her heart, lacks a certain amount of tact and has a very short attention span most of the time. As such, the most direct route is her preferred route, even if that means boring through a wall instead of climbing over with a rope. Brash and impulsive is pretty much her M.O.
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Saevitia's profile and appearance! [Gone NORTH]
Now playing Esméralda, Saevitia's former helmswoman and moralistic Campaigner; she looks like this.
I'm usually up for RP. Social actions are generally accepted; those with in-character RP invitations are most likely to be reciprocated.
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Lady Eris
Posts: 162
11/18/2015
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Eris is an Extraordinary Mind, because... well, of course she is.
She's a total bluestocking (metaphorically, of course - her actual stockings are very expensive and fashionable) so it was a natural choice.
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Lady Eris Psmith, Society darling, devoted wife. Dangerous when crossed. Accepts most social invitations. Distributor of Parabolan Kittens. Welcomes new acquaintances, especially those who write 'in character'.
William Templeton, Viscount Manningham, newcomer, gentleman, all-round good egg - accepting absolutely all invitations.
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NiteBrite
Posts: 1019
11/23/2015
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I am a Shattering Force because I break the mold and every expectation. No rule of light can contain me nor mirror imprison me. I will smash through all walls that stand between me and my heart's desire. All will shatter and fall before my might and tremble! Mwahahahaha!
Plus I can get an extra 14 rats per action more than anyone else who isn't also a shattering force with max modified stats and gear at the DoME. Knowing that I could one day overtake Spacemarine9 in an all out rat-race, even if it would take 7 years to overcome his 1 million rat headstart, fills me with 【determination】.
((My alt is a Legendary Charisma, because irrigo and the Lady in Lilac.))
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I AM currently accepting calling cards.
Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none
[00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss.
Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England)
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Andrew Astherson
Posts: 118
11/17/2015
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Must confess that I'm surprised by the digits so far. I expected that shattering forces will be the most unpopular sort, but seing so many extraordinary minds...
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> Currently open for RP:
Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin.
Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective
> My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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Sara Hysaro
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11/17/2015
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Extraordinary Minds are probably the most popular since you might very well need to be one in order to attain Scholar of the Correspondence 21 without Fate (and even with Fate you might not want to give up your Destiny).
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Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Maythau
Posts: 11
11/17/2015
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
I know there's a roleplaying aspect to it, but for those who do not play the game in that way there's an incentive to pick Extraordinary Mind over the others, thus making it more popular a choice than the others.
Perfectly true. But, as a last remark, while my Persuasive and Watchful are 200, my Shadowy is 130 (yeah, I'm really slacking) and my Forceful is 160. The roleplaying aspect for many players determines what attributes will first reach max: and once you max one or two attributes you might as well specialise in one of those instead of waiting for the others.
So the prevalence of Extraordinary Minds might come from people tendentially preferring Watchful storylines/ventures.
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Andrew Astherson
Posts: 118
11/17/2015
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Maythau wrote:
Perfectly true. But, as a last remark, while my Persuasive and Watchful are 200, my Shadowy is 130 (yeah, I'm really slacking) and my Forceful is 160. The roleplaying aspect for many players determines what attributes will first reach max: and once you max one or two attributes you might as well specialise in one of those instead of waiting for the others.
So the prevalence of Extraordinary Minds might come from people tendentially preferring Watchful storylines/ventures.
My older character's stats at this moment are like: 206 dangerous -> 200 watchful -> 198 persuasive -> 120 shadowy
His priorities in values can be easily recognized. Yet, I have to object your statement that being a shattering force is also being an epic thug. Being lethally dangerous doesn't necessarily mean being villainous... Not always. Sometimes. Yeah :3
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> Currently open for RP:
Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin.
Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective
> My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751
11/17/2015
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Generally speaking, since there are so little mechanical use for them, I'd think people are picking based on potential feats in story.
Given the focus on lore and mysteries in FL, Extraordinary Mind is a pretty natural progression for most players. Doesn't hurt that "being clever" sounds universally useful, especially in a whacky metaphysically chaotic place like the Neath, so that you will learn something the others cannot.
Invisible Eminence requires Gloam-Foam, which is not very good. Sometimes that just little push is enough to steer people away. Being "London's best kept secret" might sounds less than stellar for narcissistic burglars, too.
Shattering Force sounds nice - be fearsome and punch things! Except by the time you get to this stage, you found that for the majority of your London life you don't actually get to scare / punch people that aren't one-shot irrelevant nobodies. You can't even freak out the Struggling Artist. People still send assassins after you.
On the other hand, these two are significantly higher in demand as patrons. Shadowy is especially painful to train beyond 70s, and shares the multi-action grind with Dangerous.
Legendary Charisma are... well maybe you have a better chance of boinking Iron or something? But they are less useful as patrons for sure, since the Persuasive tracker is really lenient.
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I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Loon
Posts: 379
11/16/2015
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My two alts haven't reached the needed level yet, but in case this is relevant, Loogan Cuthoat is planning on becoming a shattering force. Don't know about Ally Mooney yet, they're not even PoSI.
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My alt Loogan Cuthoat can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Loogan~Cuthoat and welcomes all social actions bar cats and photographers.
My alt Ally Mooney can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ally~Mooney and welcomes all social actions including patronage, though they are a bit confused by cats in boxes.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
11/23/2015
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@NiteBrite: reminds me of a RPG I played once. All the characters were avatars of gods with special powers. One had the power to change anything, by saying "This cannot be, because it must not be."
We were mucking about in a labyrinth and getting nowhere towards our goal, when the god with that power simply started tearing down walls. We bypassed the DM's whole lovingly-designed series of deathtraps and made it to the end in no time. Ya got to watch out for those unintended consequences when you're a DM.
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Schmidt
Posts: 114
11/29/2015
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Bernhard Schmidt is a newly minted Legendary Charisma. More in the lines of a deviously effective speaker than perhaps the more seductive persuasive inclinations.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt
I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Ben
Posts: 657
11/19/2015
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Your missing an option.
My character wants to find the OTHER specialization.
I seek to be a paramount presence.
http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9719-in-search-of-a-paramount-presence.aspx
malthaussen wrote:
"Specialization is for insects." Robert Anson Heinlein.
There should be a title for maxing everything. After all. some people aspire to be polymaths even if they can't do arithmetic.
-- Mal
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There IS one, it's just not been unlocked yet. Join the hunt. SEEK with us....
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3Squirrels
Posts: 38
11/19/2015
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Despite being near the charisma for...well, Charisma, Eddy prefers the shadowy pursuits and is an Invisible Eminence.
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Brought to you by Three Squirrels Who Game.
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