 Andrew Astherson Posts: 118
11/16/2015
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It is not a secret that demographic stats are usually unproportioned. There are a lot of divisionings that divide (and characterize via obtained proportions) social groups: net worth and income, profession and education, demographic profile (age, gender) and even religion. Prolonged observation of this thread made me curious about avaliable patrons quantity and their most or least popular specializations.
Is there any corellation between whom newer players want to see as their patrons and those who are avaliable to be someones mentors ? Perhaps we may find that out if we gather some statistic data. So, do you care to share with the data you might have ? To make this little survey more accurate please write your alts POSI specs in the comments.
Additionals: 0 EM; 0 IE; 2 SF; 2 LC edited by Andrew Astherson on 12/25/2015
-- > Currently open for RP: Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin. Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective > My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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 Loon Posts: 379
11/16/2015
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My two alts haven't reached the needed level yet, but in case this is relevant, Loogan Cuthoat is planning on becoming a shattering force. Don't know about Ally Mooney yet, they're not even PoSI.
-- My main character Krawald can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Krawald and welcomes all social actions bar photographers.
My alt Loogan Cuthoat can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Loogan~Cuthoat and welcomes all social actions bar cats and photographers.
My alt Ally Mooney can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ally~Mooney and welcomes all social actions including patronage, though they are a bit confused by cats in boxes.
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 malthaussen Posts: 1060
11/16/2015
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"Specialization is for insects." Robert Anson Heinlein.
There should be a title for maxing everything. After all. some people aspire to be polymaths even if they can't do arithmetic.
-- Mal edited by malthaussen on 11/16/2015
-- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
11/16/2015
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Sir Fred's a Mind, Hubris is a Force, Juniper will be an Eminence, Esther will be a Charisma. Doctor Taupe-Wainscot, naturally, will be a Paramount Presence. (Doctor Taupe-Wainscot will almost certainly not be a Paramount Presence.)
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 RandomWalker Posts: 948
11/16/2015
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I've decided to not commit to any specialisation, because one day the route to paramount presence will be found (okay, it will probably never be found, but I can dream, okay?), and I don't want to be denied the option. Being an extraordinary mind would actually be useful to me, so I'd go with that if it wasn't irrevocable.
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 Monsieur Dummour Posts: 29
11/16/2015
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Monsieur is going to be an extraordinary mind. Even though his split personalities will probably get pretty angry.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Monsieur%20Dummour
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 Andrew Astherson Posts: 118
11/17/2015
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Must confess that I'm surprised by the digits so far. I expected that shattering forces will be the most unpopular sort, but seing so many extraordinary minds... edited by Andrew Astherson on 11/17/2015
-- > Currently open for RP: Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin. Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective > My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
11/17/2015
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Extraordinary Minds are probably the most popular since you might very well need to be one in order to attain Scholar of the Correspondence 21 without Fate (and even with Fate you might not want to give up your Destiny).
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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 th8827 Posts: 823
11/17/2015
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I have not chosen yet, but I plan on being a Legendary Charisma.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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 Maythau Posts: 11
11/17/2015
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
Extraordinary Minds are probably the most popular since you might very well need to be one in order to attain Scholar of the Correspondence 21 without Fate (and even with Fate you might not want to give up your Destiny).
I wouldn't be so sure.
I am an Extraordinary Mind just out of roleplaying reasons, honestly. I prefer my character to be recognized as the foremost mind of this wretched city rather than as its most violent thug. But that's just me.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maythau
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
11/17/2015
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I know there's a roleplaying aspect to it, but for those who do not play the game in that way there's an incentive to pick Extraordinary Mind over the others, thus making it more popular a choice than the others.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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 Maythau Posts: 11
11/17/2015
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
I know there's a roleplaying aspect to it, but for those who do not play the game in that way there's an incentive to pick Extraordinary Mind over the others, thus making it more popular a choice than the others. Perfectly true. But, as a last remark, while my Persuasive and Watchful are 200, my Shadowy is 130 (yeah, I'm really slacking) and my Forceful is 160. The roleplaying aspect for many players determines what attributes will first reach max: and once you max one or two attributes you might as well specialise in one of those instead of waiting for the others.
So the prevalence of Extraordinary Minds might come from people tendentially preferring Watchful storylines/ventures.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maythau
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 Andrew Astherson Posts: 118
11/17/2015
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Maythau wrote:
Perfectly true. But, as a last remark, while my Persuasive and Watchful are 200, my Shadowy is 130 (yeah, I'm really slacking) and my Forceful is 160. The roleplaying aspect for many players determines what attributes will first reach max: and once you max one or two attributes you might as well specialise in one of those instead of waiting for the others.
So the prevalence of Extraordinary Minds might come from people tendentially preferring Watchful storylines/ventures.
My older character's stats at this moment are like: 206 dangerous -> 200 watchful -> 198 persuasive -> 120 shadowy His priorities in values can be easily recognized. Yet, I have to object your statement that being a shattering force is also being an epic thug. Being lethally dangerous doesn't necessarily mean being villainous... Not always. Sometimes. Yeah :3 edited by Andrew Astherson on 11/17/2015
-- > Currently open for RP: Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin. Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective > My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
11/17/2015
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Maythau wrote:
Sara Hysaro wrote:
I know there's a roleplaying aspect to it, but for those who do not play the game in that way there's an incentive to pick Extraordinary Mind over the others, thus making it more popular a choice than the others. Perfectly true. But, as a last remark, while my Persuasive and Watchful are 200, my Shadowy is 130 (yeah, I'm really slacking) and my Forceful is 160. The roleplaying aspect for many players determines what attributes will first reach max: and once you max one or two attributes you might as well specialise in one of those instead of waiting for the others.
So the prevalence of Extraordinary Minds might come from people tendentially preferring Watchful storylines/ventures.
Ah, I see your point. I always kept my stats about even, especially by the time specializations came out. Extraordinary Mind fits my character decently enough, though really I think I just wanted the potential for SotC 21 without giving up the destiny that fits them perfectly.
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
11/17/2015
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Huh. This is a curiosity! Due to the re-imagined trackers, my Watchful is lagging behind my other stats (160-180 shadowy-186 dangerous-198 (nadir downed from 200) persuasive). I knew I didn't want Charisma but it's going to take my preferred two stats a longer time to crawl up as I wanted to pick one of the two specialization.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 Sestina Valdis Posts: 210
11/17/2015
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Sestina is a Legendary Charisma. Fei Xue will most likely be a Shattering Force-- people who can kill other people, unite! I am making/have made both choices purely due to RP reasons...
-- Sestina Valdis, the Saccharine Satirist. Appearance and Misc. Accoutrements A Past Scattered Across Discarded Stockings
Fei Xue, the Artful Assassin. Self
Edward de Riere, the Barebones Baron.
Avatar by Daniel Ilinca.
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 The Master Posts: 804
11/17/2015
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What do Invisible eminence and shattering force actually change other than allowing you to get those stats to 215? edited by The Master on 11/17/2015
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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 Andrew Astherson Posts: 118
11/17/2015
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The Master wrote:
What do Invisible eminence and shattering force actually change other than allowing you to get those stats to 215? edited by The Master on 11/17/2015
If those 15 additional points are not enough, than maybe RP reasons and the ability to help people to upgrade those stats.
PS: I accidently pushed "report to moderator" button instead of "Reply with quote"... Clumsy me (Shadowy is decreasing...) edited by Andrew Astherson on 11/17/2015
-- > Currently open for RP: Andrew Astherson - heavy-tempered, rapacious but reliable menace of slavonic-tatar origin. Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective > My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory
> Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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 Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751
11/17/2015
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Generally speaking, since there are so little mechanical use for them, I'd think people are picking based on potential feats in story.
Given the focus on lore and mysteries in FL, Extraordinary Mind is a pretty natural progression for most players. Doesn't hurt that "being clever" sounds universally useful, especially in a whacky metaphysically chaotic place like the Neath, so that you will learn something the others cannot.
Invisible Eminence requires Gloam-Foam, which is not very good. Sometimes that just little push is enough to steer people away. Being "London's best kept secret" might sounds less than stellar for narcissistic burglars, too.
Shattering Force sounds nice - be fearsome and punch things! Except by the time you get to this stage, you found that for the majority of your London life you don't actually get to scare / punch people that aren't one-shot irrelevant nobodies. You can't even freak out the Struggling Artist. People still send assassins after you.
On the other hand, these two are significantly higher in demand as patrons. Shadowy is especially painful to train beyond 70s, and shares the multi-action grind with Dangerous.
Legendary Charisma are... well maybe you have a better chance of boinking Iron or something? But they are less useful as patrons for sure, since the Persuasive tracker is really lenient.
-- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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 A B Nile Posts: 414
11/18/2015
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I haven't picked a specialisation despite having been a POSI for ages. Mainly because I am paranoid that I will inadvertently close myself off from future content by doing so, with no immediate benefit.
For what it's worth, if it made no difference I would definitely choose to be a Shattering Force. Dangerous was (intentionally) the first stat I maxed to 200. I had every intention of specialising immediately before becoming paralysed by indecision.
I managed to get to SotC 21 without being an Extraordinary Mind, otherwise I suppose that might have factored in to my decision making too.
-- My profile: A B Nile
My alt: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate (seeking Acquaintances and accepting all social actions)
Item conversion table - finally complete with all rare successes!
Bloody, bold and resolute
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