Chris Gardiner
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11/10/2015
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You stand among the piled records of Concord Square. Files burst with papers. What will you do with the law's secrets?
Delicious friends! The fourth and last of our Making your Name updates to early Fallen London content is now live! This content is intended to improve the early Shadowy experience of newcomers to Fallen London, by accelerating advancement and streamlining content. Here's a blog about our wider changes.
Explore the shadows of Spite and the heights of the Flit. Own a penny dreadful inspired by your adventures! Decide which of the Neath's criminal luminaries you make your toasts to. Perhaps you admire the ruthlessness of the Cheery Man or the subtlety of the Gracious Widow. Perhaps you have a soft spot for the Topsy King. Or perhaps you admit no examples, and prefer to toast yourself!
Established players will be given the chance to revisit the heady days of their youth. Whether you choose to reset your progress or not, you will also receive the new qualities (including the penny dreadful) that you would have gained if you were starting fresh.
This is the final update updating the early levels of Persuasive, Dangerous, Watchful and Shadowy, in advance of the launch of Fallen London on iOS.
There are a few more bits of tidying up we'd like to do to this content over the next couple days - you may see a few more bits move around or be localised onto master cards.
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Ben
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11/10/2015
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Okay, now THAT hurt.
I carefully maxed out master thief by doing bazaar raids over and over again, and to find it casually changed into a tracking quality...
Just painful.
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Jabberwok
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11/10/2015
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I wish these changes would not interrupt storylets I'm already in. I was in the middle of going through one I'm already familiar with, so when it popped up something new, I hit the first option before I was able to tell it wasn't what I was expecting. So now I'm locked into that without even knowing what the options were. Pretty frustrating.
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Kaigen
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11/10/2015
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In previous instances where they implemented trackers and people misclicked when taken unawares, I believe Failbetter provided some reprieve. Try emailing feedback@failbettergames.com for assistance.
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MidnightVoyager
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11/10/2015
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It would be nice if toasting the Cheery Man could let those of us who MAY have sided with his relative become Closest To criminals.
(Cheery Man, it wasn't personal, really. She's out of your hair now, isn't she?)
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Elena Maryam
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11/11/2015
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Ridagoth wrote:
Koenig wrote:
The only specialized option that I can find the area diving section.
Oh, that's still in Spite, move to Flit and prepare for the big score building up casing to unlock the various theft options. 
Thanks-- I'd run into the same problem. It wasn't at all clear where to go after that section, and since I've had the Flit open for approximately forever, I'd dismissed those options as the same old things and had been looking for a new or marked storylet somewhere. I don't know if it'll be less of a logical leap for new players going through it...
Also, I've been using Thefts of a Particular Character with no issues, so it's not everyone.
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Ruddertail
Posts: 36
11/11/2015
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What exactly am I supposed to be proceed with if I'm at 1 master thief and chose to start at the flit? Grind up Master Thief to 5 I'd assume?
Shadowy is really confusing compared to the other attribute plotlines.
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Ridagoth
Posts: 86
11/13/2015
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Ishmael Finkenstein wrote:
I wonder, how much of the content has really changed? When Making Your Name: Dangerous went live, I decided to redo the Black Ribbon Society, and it seemed that nothing had changed there.
With Shadowy, I am a bit torn. On the one hand, I would love to play through the new content (and especially to steal from constables ...), but n the other hand, I don't want to redo all the content I have seen already.
So, would anyone hazard a guess, how much new content there is? 10%? A quarter? Half?
[spoiler]I can't give a comfortable new content guess, since I am only on Whispered in Darkness 6, thus working on Wars of Illusion (and I never did it completely before the tracker because I put it on hold), but I would suggest starting off from Whispered in Darkness 5 (fifth tier) to experience the new Heist content if you remember or don't want to do old early content (but this means redoing Wars of Illusion). The new stuff that offer an unique quality and item is the Toast at end of Whispered in Darkness 1 -> 2 and the Penny Dreadful at the end of Whispered in Darkness 4 -> 5, which should be auto-unlocked to choose if you pick a high tier like 5, 6, or 7 (picking tier 2-4 should unlock just the Toast quality). I do not have personal experience with what auto-unlocks at what tier because I chose to start from the beginning, so I am making an educated guess. There is some new in-between event which I can't be sure will be auto-unlocked which is A Lofty Invitation (going from Whispered in Darkness 3 -> 4 the regular way), but that won't give any unique qualities/items, it just contributes to quirk changes mainly (but all the checkpoints offer great Shadowy boosts). It's up to you, but if you want to minimize how far you go back, the fifth tier seems like the best fit for you since you really want to try out the Heist at Concord Square. If your Master Thief is near 5, you can easily just choose the third tier, quickly do the A Lofty Invitation (only need 1k Jade and Flit unlocked), just do one or two high tier thefts to get to 5 and get a Penny Dreadful to go to the fifth tier for the Heist (you need Master Thief at 5 to advance the normal way, which will be a grind if it's low). Also, remember what you did in Wars of Illusion since you will have to redo it to go from Whispered in Darkness 6 to 7, or part of it anyway. In my case, my Wars of Illusion quality was at 6 before the tracker, and it keeps everything from 9 and below with the tracker if you choose the 6th tier or below (picking tier 6 or 7 locks you from doing the Concord Square Heist, as I learned in this thread). I hope this helps. [/spoiler]
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Zareen Bakara
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11/17/2015
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The reorganization of several groups of storylets in the Flit makes it very tedious to repeat them. One has to go via The Heights of Chicaney *every* time ones wants to raise Investigating or Seeking via the Couriers. Similarly, one has to go via The Flit and Its King every single time one wants to race around the Flit. If one wants to repeat these actions several times, a lot of clicking has been added to the previous situation. I understand that it's good to organize the storylets into group (as there are so many options in the Flit once one opens up everything), but is there any way to group them without making one go back to the Flit and reselect the initial group every time?
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MidnightVoyager
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11/25/2015
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Is there any way to change who we toast to yet? I really didn't expect that second choice to change it and I hope to get it back.
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Ben
Posts: 657
11/17/2015
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I /think/ I saw it nested inside of "preparing for a big score" or "choosing your target" but I needed a rather high suspicion to open it. The good news is I was able to feed rats to the people until I reached 0 suspicion.
I was doing this with rather high stats so it looks like it might not be stat dependant now?
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Juno
Posts: 63
11/18/2015
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Gemma Hawley wrote:
It is now airs-dependent. :P Between that and the changes to the Widow storylets, I've got no reasons to hang about in Spite.
Ah, thank you for the reply. I guess an everlasting source of weasels is too good to be true.
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Aurel Faine
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11/18/2015
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Well, I have name whispred in darkness six, but how do you start the Wars of Illusion? I don't see any options for it in Mahogany Hall, the flit, or spite? Do I need to do more heists?
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Zareen Bakara
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11/18/2015
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Udorie Faine wrote:
Well, I have name whispred in darkness six, but how do you start the Wars of Illusion? I don't see any options for it in Mahogany Hall, the flit, or spite? Do I need to do more heists?
I think you need to raise Embroiled in the Wars of Illusion to 2 through critical successes on some Flit actions that increase Seeking or Investigating. http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3AEmbroiled_in_the_wars_of_Illusion
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Toran
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11/18/2015
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I was able to progress it just by grinding Cats, Bats, and the two Courier options. You just need to get all four of the new qualities to (5?) in order to do the "What is Going On" storylet.
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Zareen Bakara
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11/18/2015
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Unfortunately, it's not clear what one must do if one's already past 5. "Making Your Name: Wars of Illusion" requires between 2 and 5 "Embroiled in the Wars of Illusion," and is locked if you're higher.
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Aurel Faine
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11/18/2015
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Zareen Bakara wrote:
Udorie Faine wrote:
Well, I have name whispred in darkness six, but how do you start the Wars of Illusion? I don't see any options for it in Mahogany Hall, the flit, or spite? Do I need to do more heists?
I think you need to raise Embroiled in the Wars of Illusion to 2 through critical successes on some Flit actions that increase Seeking or Investigating. http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3AEmbroiled_in_the_wars_of_Illusion
So you grind it up to two with seeking/investigating? I've just been grinding casing in Spite and using it in the Flit. Where do you begin seeking/investigating?
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Aurel Faine
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11/18/2015
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Oh! Nevermind, I see now, thank you very much!
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lady ciel
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11/18/2015
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I think that both the seeking/investigating storylets are now under "The Heights of Chicanery" in the Flit. That appears when you have reached a Name Whispered in Darkness 6.
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The Duke of Waltham
Posts: 150
11/19/2015
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Gemma Hawley wrote:
It is now airs-dependent. :P Between that and the changes to the Widow storylets, I've got no reasons to hang about in Spite.
I have more reasons, actually. That option to reduce suspicion is much more effective than the one in the Flit, and it used to be locked after... 58 Shadowy, was it? I remember fiddling with the talkative rattus faber and my other items so that I'd lower my quality to the highest level that would allow me to use it (to reduce the chance of failure) for quite some time, while grinding on with the heists in my effort to become a PoSI. The fact that it's open to me again now was completely unexpected, and one of the more pleasant surprises in the recent re-organisation.
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Masky
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11/19/2015
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Ah, so this is what that was ._.; I was confused after doing my area diving when that popped up and I chose the option that said I was in area diving since I had no idea what that was...
...Did I miss something by resetting it to area diving/second earliest option instead of first/smallest shadowy option? X-x; If I missed something permanently, can I still get this reseted?
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Sara Hysaro
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11/20/2015
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The Careworn Journalist storylet will persist even if you have Name Whispered in Darkness 7. What locks the story from being replayed is the Racking the Muck of the Neath quality.
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Masky
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11/22/2015
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I had the journalist story done already, but okay, so I didn't miss anything but first toast option? I already did the toasting after area diving, but there is going to be another option to switch who I toast later? Okay, thats nice.
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Optimatum
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11/13/2015
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If you aren't stat-capped in Shadowy I'd highly recommend redoing all the early content for the massive CP gains. Shadowy is definitely less grindy than Dangerous; I managed getting from Whispered in Darkness 1 to 5 with one candle's worth of actions or so.
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Ishmael Finkenstein
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11/13/2015
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Optimatum wrote:
If you aren't stat-capped in Shadowy I'd highly recommend redoing all the early content for the massive CP gains. Shadowy is definitely less grindy than Dangerous; I managed getting from Whispered in Darkness 1 to 5 with one candle's worth of actions or so.
Thank you and Ridagoth for your answers. To be honest, I do not care too much about the change points, but more about my personal experience. And I only play one candle a day, on average, so if I redid it all from the beginning, and most of the content was the same, it could mean a few boring weeks ahead of me. On the other hand, I would love to earn my own penny dreadful (and not just receive it because I chose to go in at a later tier). So maybe I will redo it all from the beginning anyway. I guess I will have to think about it some more.
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Shalinoth
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11/14/2015
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For anyone wishing to navigate the least grindy path from an early Shadowy point, there is a strange quirk of the tier choices that grants you Master Thief 1, 4, or 5, depending on the tier you pick. Pick the top tier, for example, and you suddenly have 5 levels in Master Thief (even if like me you had only 1 before this new system came along). After selecting a tier, you're taken to the patches. But rather than select a Toast / Penny Dreadful or whatever it is, you can go into Myself tab and click any item that opens a storylet, then cancel out and you are back in the Tier selection page, with ill-gained Master Thief levels. Now you can select an earlier Tier with sufficient Master Thief that heist grinding is drastically reduced. (I haven't tried very early tiers but I think some of them might strip your Master Thief levels back down to 1. If this happens you can just Myself-tab/Cancel-out and reselect a higher Tier to regain those 5 levels.)
Disclaimer: This likely qualifies as a bug and isn't intended as natural gameplay progress, even for veteran players.
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shapjul
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11/14/2015
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
It seems to stick around forever afterwards.
This is about area diving and I just wanted to make this into a question. Area diving DOES seem to just stick around. Does that mean I am not done with it? Is there anything you accomplish by revisiting it repeatedly? Qualities seem to reset when you finish. I guess it is a way of pushing up your shadowy quality, but apart from that?
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metasynthie
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11/16/2015
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Does anyone know if there are any Forceful-increasing choices in the last couple stages of the Shadowy tracker?
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BillyCosmos!
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11/16/2015
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Have the requirements for "dealing with suspicion" in the flit changed as part of this? I reduced my shadowy down to 85 and I still don't see it.
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SamNorrey
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11/17/2015
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Ridagoth wrote:
BillyCosmos! wrote:
Have the requirements for "dealing with suspicion" in the flit changed as part of this? I reduced my shadowy down to 85 and I still don't see it.
I saw it as well when my Whispered in Darkness was lower (and my Shadowy was around the 130-140s, so it's not stat specific unlike last time), I forgot the exact number. I am done with the tracker at Whispered in Darkness 7 and it is not available to me anymore. Unlike tracker options like Area-Diving in Spite, I believe this option only appears within a certain range of the tracker and disappears when you progress enough in it. I could be wrong but this is my theory at the moment from my own experience with this option. Sorry for the bad news. Perhaps buying and using Nikolas & Sons Instant Ablution Absolution can be an alternative to look into besides using social actions for such a menace. Remember to also draw cards for the The Law's Long Arm for suspicion control too.
I don't know about this one, but in Spite there's a new option called Opportunism in Spite, which has an airs-dependent option to Confound the Constables, open with 200+ Shadowy. Could be that the Flit one is under The Flit and its King, and also airs-dependent? Anyways, if the Spite one works the same way it used to, it's much better for dealing with suspicion anyway.
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11/12/2015
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One of the changes that is connected to this I find kind of odd. Before sell information (and a bunch of the other options) were on the main page for The Flit. Now they are under The Big Score: Choose a Target. Baring the extra clicks required (especially since you are kicked out to the main page every time) I find it odd that you unlock The Big Score at Casing 5, but sell information is still unlocked at Casing 3. So you need 2 more casing to get to sell information than you need to sell information...
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Pralaya
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11/12/2015
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TheThirdPolice wrote:
Is Concord Square newish content? I don't remember thieving from constables.
Yeah, and you can do it only once...during Making Your Name quest.
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ashdenej
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11/12/2015
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I think it's a bit weird that in the final negotiating stage between various criminal parties you have to A) choose to favour one of them or B) push your own suit. Wouldn't... wouldn't a sufficiently shadowy person / someone with a sense of fair play just attempt to mediate fairly?
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11/12/2015
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ashdenej wrote:
Wouldn't... wouldn't a sufficiently shadowy person / someone with a sense of fair play just attempt to mediate fairly?
If I might quote the incomparable Hoban Washburne:
"Sweetie, we're crooks. If everything were right, we'd be in jail."
The choice of whom to pick in the mediation tore me apart.
Part of me wanted The Cheery Man, because he's got his fingers in so many delicious criminals pies I want a taste of. Favouring the Cheery Man opens up a lot of doors in various storylets, and I definitely want a piece of those.
But the Raggedy Man is such a tragic figure. and a fellow Marvelous player. Not to mention that, living so close to the ceiling of the Neath puts him in the advantageous position of hearing all kinds of wild words. His good opinion could definitely be helpful with all kinds of Neathy lore.
Ultimately I had to side with my favorite Fallen London character: me.
I'm just sad that no other players could have chosen to side with me.
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Szadovar
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11/12/2015
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Pralaya wrote:
Yeah, and you can do it only once...during Making Your Name quest.
Clearly, we have too many regular heists available to have another one be a regular option...
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th8827
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11/11/2015
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Now that the 4th and final stat has an early game arc, what is next on the development agenda?
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Sara Hysaro
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11/11/2015
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It seems to stick around forever afterwards.
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dragonridingsorceress
Posts: 622
11/11/2015
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Kolanowski wrote:
At first I was kinda disappointed that I couldn't rob the Brass Embassy anymore (Master Thief too low), but then I realized that it actually makes more sense now. After all, which greenhorn thief would *begin* with that heist? I'll give this update a solid 8/10.
//That annoys me. I was grinding it up already!
I take it back! My Master Thief quality has been preserved.
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Thorbimorbi
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11/11/2015
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Kolanowski wrote:
At first I was kinda disappointed that I couldn't rob the Brass Embassy anymore (Master Thief too low), but then I realized that it actually makes more sense now. After all, which greenhorn thief would *begin* with that heist?
Me. First and only heist I ever did, so I could get Counting the Days with fixed storylets for First City Coins. I thought about tanking my Connected: Hell and failing that on purpose to go to jail without getting a criminal record, but now... *bleargh*
Too much grinding.
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Zareen Bakara
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11/11/2015
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Thorbimorbi wrote:
Kolanowski wrote:
After all, which greenhorn thief would *begin* with that heist?
Me. First and only heist I ever did.
Same here - albeit repeatedly! Zareen has only ever stolen from the Brass Embassy. She's not very fond of them.
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Koenig
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11/11/2015
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I feel a bit dumb, but I can't seem to find the next storylet to continue my shadowy activities after reaching a name whispered in darkness 4
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Koenig
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11/11/2015
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Ridagoth wrote:
Koenig wrote:
I feel a bit dumb, but I can't seem to find the next storylet to continue my shadowy activities after reaching a name whispered in darkness 4
I just reached that too. Did you manage to get Master Thief to 5 using the various theft options in Flit? I am currently doing that and afterwards I think the next step is doing a Heist through a storylet, followed by Wars of Illusion.
The only specialized option that I can find the area diving section.
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Ridagoth
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11/11/2015
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Koenig wrote:
The only specialized option that I can find the area diving section.
Oh, that's still in Spite, move to Flit and prepare for the big score building up casing to unlock the various theft options.
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11/11/2015
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dragonridingsorceress wrote:
Does anyone know if Big Scores and Heists will still be available if I admit to being involved in the Wars of Illusion? I love that content (and am intrigued by the idea of a Heist in Concorde Square, which I don't recall doing) but don't want to have to redo Mahogany Hall later to get back to where I am in the Wars. They are still available.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor~Travers~Durward
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Curious Foreigner
Posts: 210
11/10/2015
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Ben wrote:
Okay, now THAT hurt.
I carefully maxed out master thief by doing bazaar raids over and over again, and to find it casually changed into a tracking quality...
Just painful.
Don't worry, that's nothing a little grinding can't fix. It was the same for me with A Fearsome Duelist.
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Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.)
The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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Partran
Posts: 7
11/10/2015
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For previous ones there was a reset option for the first couple days after implementation. Is it possible to have one for this? I may have made a mistake. Maybe...
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