We've now implemented costs in the Forgotten Quarter, Labyrinth of Tigers and Baaar Side-Streets: every requirement that behaves like a cost should now have a price tag next to it.

Are there any operations in these areas with hidden costs? I want to know if you get told if stuff is taken when it wasn't an unlock requirement. The obvious ones would be the souls you lose in one particular day in the Iron Republic, or the result of being arrested with a high criminal record, or the result of being unable to evade the grand hunt.

A bit off-topic but have recent changes included making the Overgoat cost 2x Sudden Insights instead of just 1, for a second chance?

I got a strange message on the re-try that I didn't have enough actions (re-tries shouldn't COST any actions, they're already spent on the 1st try if you ticked the second chances tick-box?) But it tried to charge me twice and couldn't, so it took me to the Oops something went wrong error-screen..

So now I've been taken back to the card page for the Overgoat again as if the card wasn't used yet. With the option to spend second chances again.. Grrr.
edited by Shalinoth on 11/17/2015

We've now implemented costs in the Forgotten Quarter, Labyrinth of Tigers and Baaar Side-Streets: every requirement that behaves like a cost should now have a price tag next to it.

As ever, we welcome your delicious feedback, and do let us know at support@failbettergames.com if you encounter any bugs (other than benign varieties thereof, like, Phosphorescent Scarabs).

As it happens, I don't particularly care for the change, personally I always found the costs of an action easy to understand at a glance, but if it's part of a development for iOS, well, what can you do.

Change is best affected via bug report and feedback emails, to which FBG normally responds within a day or two.

It's been over a week and there's only been silence. I think we can assume at this point this change is probably intentional and that asking for it to change in a forums thread isn't going to do any good if that's the case.

A good idea, but most frustrating that the mouseover on Costs doesn't show how many of that thing I currently have.

Ginneon Thursday wrote:

This is wonderful! I had assumed the lock meant we could lock off (or unlock) options to avoid clicking on them, but hopefully there will still be a way to lock off options in the future (without too much lock icon confusion).

This would give me such immense happiness, bytheby. I cannot tell you how many times in the Affair of the Box, I have accidentally clicked something I didn't mean to. One faction's option can be either the top option or the bottom option, and it leads to rather disastrous misunderstandings...

Absolutely - this missing info is a real problem. I've just converted a bunch of secrets into diamonds at the Bazaar Side-Streets and the interface wouldn't tell me how many Cryptic Clues I still had, and didn't give a message that they were spent either!

I'll send a bug report.

It's the weekend. Let's see what Monday brings, in terms of feedback to our feedback.

th8827 wrote:

I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...

I can confirm that when Someone is Coming drops to zero, you don't get a message.

Speaking of robbing the drunken rat, can anyone confirm that the rare success chance to get a Ratwork Watch still exists? I've done this at least daily for several months. Plenty of Surface Currency. No Ratwork Watch.

As an interim measure, we've added an indication of how many Crates of Expedition Supplies the player has to the storylet text of archaeological expeditions, since this is the example that has been brought up most often.

I think my main complaint is with how long it's taken to acknowledge that it's a serious issue. I think if it was flagged significantly earlier that it's just a case of solving a difficult technical issue a lot of disappointment would have been saved and ill feeling avoided.

To be fair, they're probably very busy . . .

Thanks everyone for your discussion and feedback, and for sending tickets - you are excellent.


Unfortunately, this isn't a straightforward change, and our developers are currently fully occupied with the Fallen London mobile port and Sunless Sea expansion.

As an interim measure, we've added an indication of how many Crates of Expedition Supplies the player has to the storylet text of archaeological expeditions, since this is the example that has been brought up most often; we'd welcome suggestions for other branches or storylets that would particularly benefit from this.

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I originally read that last line as "we tested toads," which raises all sorts of interesting images...

-- Mal

I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...

Absolutely - this missing info is a real problem. I've just converted a bunch of secrets into diamonds at the Bazaar Side-Streets and the interface wouldn't tell me how many Cryptic Clues I still had, and didn't give a message that they were spent either!

Frankly I don't feel too good about the "we are tied elsewhere but we'll fix it later" response.

When the new feature breaks something in the game, you press the button and roll it back until you fix it and test it again, you don't just put it on hold to maybe fix later while leaving it broken in the game.

Just my opinion, of course.