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th8827
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11/15/2015
I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...

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Erika
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11/15/2015
th8827 wrote:
I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...

If doing that action removed all of your Someone is Coming, that would be why it didn't say anything, that's a seperate issue/bug doing that.

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theonie
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11/15/2015
theonie wrote:
As it happens, I don't particularly care for the change, personally I always found the costs of an action easy to understand at a glance, but if it's part of a development for iOS, well, what can you do.

In fact, thinking about it, I think the easiest and simplest appearance of costs snd requirements of actions was the one in place when I started playing a couple of years ago. Since then, I found the changes to be less intuitive and needlessly complex. I mean, it's not a big deal -- but why keep trying to fix what's not broken. The latest, with the extra icons, just looks cluttered to me. Anyway, not a big deal, I'll get used to it as well.

But please bring the remaining quantity info back! That's actually functional.

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Koenig
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11/15/2015
I love the price tag icon as it actually tells me how much I will spend, but I really miss the post information dump that let you know how much you had left. I hope that they bring that component back in addition to the tag that they replaced it with.

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Shalinoth
Shalinoth
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11/15/2015
I also miss the (you have X) mouse-over info.
And the information afterwards.

Do we need to send more email of this feedback, or has the chorus here been sufficient?

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RandomWalker
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11/15/2015
ShalinothDo we need to send more email of this feedback, or has the chorus here been sufficient?[/quote wrote:


It's the weekend. Let's see what Monday brings, in terms of feedback to our feedback.
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Jacke
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11/15/2015
th8827 wrote:
I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...

I can confirm that when Someone is Coming drops to zero, you don't get a message.

Speaking of robbing the drunken rat, can anyone confirm that the rare success chance to get a Ratwork Watch still exists? I've done this at least daily for several months. Plenty of Surface Currency. No Ratwork Watch.

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lady ciel
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11/15/2015
Jacke wrote:
th8827 wrote:
I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...

I can confirm that when Someone is Coming drops to zero, you don't get a message.

Speaking of robbing the drunken rat, can anyone confirm that the rare success chance to get a Ratwork Watch still exists? I've done this at least daily for several months. Plenty of Surface Currency. No Ratwork Watch.



My youngest alt got a Ratwork Watch about 3 weeks ago.

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Guest

11/16/2015
I too am echoing the replies (pun intended) that we ned our remaining resources reinstated on the results screen. havng to go to multiple tabs when staying in the same area is counter-productive to "saving time to see if we have enough to buy the item" changes discussed here.
lady ciel wrote:
Jacke wrote:
th8827 wrote:
I decided to go to Rob a Drunk, and tried robbing the rat. I did not get a message saying that Someone is Coming has dropped...


I can confirm that when Someone is Coming drops to zero, you don't get a message.

Speaking of robbing the drunken rat, can anyone confirm that the rare success chance to get a Ratwork Watch still exists? I've done this at least daily for several months. Plenty of Surface Currency. No Ratwork Watch.




My youngest alt got a Ratwork Watch about 3 weeks ago.



Two things on this:
1)As noted with rare Successes replies quoted here and elsewhere, the changes have not altered rare Successes; if you have not gotten any of them, it's a RNG rare chance of often 2% or less and your luck is just bad.
The Ratwork Watch (while not as rare seemingly as drawing the Skin of the Bazaar card in the Side-Streets) is an exceptionally rare success at 1.29%.
2) We really need to have any and all "connection" qualities list when they are gone, "Someone is Coming" included.
edited by the truthseeker on 11/16/2015
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Sara Hysaro
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11/16/2015
Now that I'm back into running expeditions I'm really starting to miss the availability of that information. I try to keep at least 50k Whispered Secrets at all times, and having to go to my inventory periodically to make sure I haven't lost track is starting to wear on me.

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Shalinoth
Shalinoth
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11/17/2015
A bit off-topic but have recent changes included making the Overgoat cost 2x Sudden Insights instead of just 1, for a second chance?

I got a strange message on the re-try that I didn't have enough actions (re-tries shouldn't COST any actions, they're already spent on the 1st try if you ticked the second chances tick-box?) But it tried to charge me twice and couldn't, so it took me to the Oops something went wrong error-screen..

So now I've been taken back to the card page for the Overgoat again as if the card wasn't used yet. With the option to spend second chances again.. Grrr.
edited by Shalinoth on 11/17/2015

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Sara Hysaro
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11/17/2015
That's related to this change that happened today.

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John Savage
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11/17/2015
Shalinoth wrote:
A bit off-topic but have recent changes included making the Overgoat cost 2x Sudden Insights instead of just 1, for a second chance?

I got a strange message on the re-try that I didn't have enough actions (re-tries shouldn't COST any actions, they're already spent on the 1st try if you ticked the second chances tick-box?) But it tried to charge me twice and couldn't, so it took me to the Oops something went wrong error-screen..

So now I've been taken back to the card page for the Overgoat again as if the card wasn't used yet. With the option to spend second chances again.. Grrr.
edited by Shalinoth on 11/17/2015


This has ALL been quite confusing for me, as a new player. I have been playing for 2 weeks now, and it seems like change is the norm thus far. But it HAS led me to waste a LOT of resources that are scarce for me right now....

I am going to make TONS of mistakes on my own, but the shifting landscape has exacerbated my pain.

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Shalinoth
Shalinoth
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11/18/2015
Anyone know if Investigating.. can be spent in places where it doesn't Reset to 0? I somehow have 18 in it, and all the things I can find to use it on only Cost 5 and Reset it upon use. Seems wasteful!

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Sara Hysaro
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11/18/2015
I don't believe so...all the Investigating cash ins I recall reset it completely. Casing definitely has a way to spend it, and I think Fascinating also has an option, but not Seeking or Investigating.

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Luxira
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11/18/2015
For what it's worth I gotta add my voice to the choir. Not being able to see at a glance how many items I have in total along with the cost makes playing the game rather too cumbersome to be fun :/
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The Duke of Waltham
The Duke of Waltham
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11/19/2015
dov wrote:
Thanks Lady Ciel and RandomWalker for confirming the rare success is still a thing.

I'm fine with a streak of bad luck (I've also had streaks of good luck). It's just that with the change to how these options now present the success (i.e. without indicating the lost items) I was concerned it might have affected rare successes somehow.

Thankfully not. I managed to find the diamond after what must have been at least thirty attempts. Then I went for a couple of expeditions to the Forgotten Quarter and found two magnificent diamonds in my second expedition, for which I have no current use (though I'll be saving them for later on, of course; I've already purchased enough Small Cave Fish for the lenses of a Zubmarine, should I later decide to build one). It puts all the grinding into perspective, doesn't it, the effect of luck. I had understood the chances to be much better in the Bazaar Side-streets than in the Forgotten Quarter, and I was proved spectacularly wrong. At least I gathered enough money from the flawed diamonds to hire all the labour I needed to relocate that Basalt Gymnasium, so it wasn't all for nothing (which is not to say that the benefit of the home comforts I have so far acquired is not somewhat underwhelming, considering the expense and trouble they caused me).

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SmallFish
SmallFish
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11/20/2015
dov wrote:
Absolutely - this missing info is a real problem. I've just converted a bunch of secrets into diamonds at the Bazaar Side-Streets and the interface wouldn't tell me how many Cryptic Clues I still had, and didn't give a message that they were spent either!

I'll send a bug report.



Have you had any response to your report, dov?
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dov
dov
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11/20/2015
SmallFish wrote:
Have you had any response to your report, dov?

No. No reply.

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Sara Hysaro
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11/20/2015
Maybe they're waiting to see if we get used to it? I'm personally not used to it. The change could be great, but without the tooltip telling you how much you have in total it's just frustrating.

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