maleclypse
Posts: 259
10/28/2015
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Devil and the child, et al. For RP sake I tend to always do the 5 action mediation opportunity. It also comes with what look like better rewards. Is this a poor use of my actions as far as progress and money goes?
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Snotra
Posts: 67
10/28/2015
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I take the 5 actions option, if I have the actions. I like the bonuses, and they are good if you don't have a lot of time to play. I have RP alternatives too, of course, if I need to boost a connection with a certain faction. I am more character lead than some very organised people who work out change point ratios and whatnot, though.
Sorry, that doesn't answer your question. Fallen London provides many ways to progress and to my mind there is no 'ideal'. See where your character takes you, and don't be in a rush. I was, early game, and missed out on so much.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
10/28/2015
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The five action opportunity yields 6 Mysteries of the Elder continent (Worth 3.00 echos) and 10 Romantic Notions (1.00 echo) for a total of 4.00 for 5 actions, meaning .80 echo's per action. The other options by comparison give far less in terms financial gain (0-30 pence) but give large boosts of connection to one party or another (And a decent amount of wounds if you side with the urchins)
Personally, I use it mostly to grind connections with the urchins.
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Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751
10/28/2015
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The one-action options tends to be more useful at high levels as it awards Someone is Coming, which can be exchanged for Surface Currency or potentially a Ratwork Watch in Spite.
Since you gain more Surface Currency as your Shadowy increase, it is particularly profitable to earn as much Someone is Coming at low level when most options yields little profit, save them up until you reach 200 Shadowy, then go on a spending spree in Spite.
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10/28/2015
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Koenig wrote:
The five action opportunity yields 6 Mysteries of the Elder continent (Worth 3.00 echos) and 10 Romantic Notions (1.00 echo) for a total of 4.00 for 5 actions, meaning .80 echo's per action. The other options by comparison give far less in terms financial gain (0-30 pence) but give large boosts of connection to one party or another (And a decent amount of wounds if you side with the urchins)
Personally, I use it mostly to grind connections with the urchins.
Specifically, this quoted reply above is referring to The Devil and the Child (although I prefer The Kaleidoscopic Church's 5-turn option with the more Romantic Notions and Scraps of Incendiary Gossip for the same .80 per turn value.)
These harder-to-get items on the 5-card options (gotten from other means beside the conflict cards) often require a significant amount of lower-tier items to up-convert or multiple successful turns to get the amount of lower-tier offered (even with the amount given on a failure.)
Don't do the conflict cards 5-turn items simply for the echo-turn-in value. Do them if you are trying to get specific items acquired, saving cards turned for similar results, but requiring 5 successes the other way, if a similar option exists for other cards or storyettes.
As noted previously, the other (main) option is to focus on upping one side's connection (with a small decrease in the other side) as well as getting Somebody is Coming--that as mentioned used often for The Capering Relicker or attack A furious and incoherent drunken rat in Spite's Rob a Drunk. Successes (as noted) get (Shadowy/2) surface currency or sometimes a (rare) Ratwork Watch (one of the top Watchful weapon items normally purchasable.) Failures still offer the 2.50 Echo Baptized rat corpse for the cost of 2 wound CP.
If interested, a listing of what the conflicts do can be found on this wiki page.
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navchaa
Posts: 561
10/28/2015
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Thank you for this! My opportunity card deck is ridiculously crowded and my Someone is Coming quality is at something like 25 - so high that it doesn't even say "Just behind your shoulder" anymore. Now I know what to do to reduce it (it annoys me, is all).
Estelle Knoht wrote:
The one-action options tends to be more useful at high levels as it awards Someone is Coming, which can be exchanged for Surface Currency or potentially a Ratwork Watch in Spite.
Since you gain more Surface Currency as your Shadowy increase, it is particularly profitable to earn as much Someone is Coming at low level when most options yields little profit, save them up until you reach 200 Shadowy, then go on a spending spree in Spite.
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genesis
Posts: 924
10/28/2015
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Out of curiosity how do people manage to get their SiC so high? Doesn't the capering relicker eventually come up in all its undiscardable glory and clog up your hand forever?
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navchaa
Posts: 561
10/28/2015
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I have all the pets from the Labyrinth of Tigers and quite a few POSI accoutrements with their own opportunity cards. My connectedness for all factions are generally 50+ so I draw the faction cards a lot (and I always choose a side to keep the connections high). I draw one card at a time and have a 4-card hand. The capering relicker simply doesn't like me enough to give gifts often!
genesis wrote:
Out of curiosity how do people manage to get their SiC so high? Doesn't the capering relicker eventually come up in all its undiscardable glory and clog up your hand forever?
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
10/28/2015
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Sometimes he just doesn't show up for a long time and you get a lot more cards that can raise someone is coming so it is possible for SiC to get high.
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38thDoE
Posts: 60
10/28/2015
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I really wish he was discardable. I used to lose him by going on a heist or to the Nadir, but now he's a terrible menace and I usually just take his dumb gift instead of doing the profitable thing.
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navchaa
Posts: 561
11/2/2015
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And... suddenly I've regained the Capering Relicker's favour. I haven't been cycling through my card deck much with Hallowmas, but I do it for the Visitor card (because fish!). And there he pops up once or twice a day to hand me a gift. His RNG master must really hate me.
Yet... My Someone is Coming quality is still 25.
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Diptych
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11/2/2015
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Snotra wrote:
I take the 5 actions option, if I have the actions. I like the bonuses, and they are good if you don't have a lot of time to play.
To be honest, if I don't have something specific I'm grinding for or a story to work through, I'll use multi-action options just to use up my candles in a not-too-inefficient way. Ring-fights in Wolfstack, drinks or dealing with agents in Veilgarden, that sort of thing. Of course, that's on my stat-capped characters.
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
11/2/2015
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Unless specifically grinding for items, I find that the single action option is more beneficial than the 5-action ones since they have all-around useful effects such as menace removal or second chance generation.
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NotaWalrus
Posts: 221
11/2/2015
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Some of the 1-action options are fairly good in their own right. Particularly: siding with the Urchins against the Widow will reduce nightmares, siding with the Church against the Game will give you 4 second chances, and, if you're into that sort of thing, siding with the Urchins against Hell will give you 3CP wounds and siding with the Rubbery Men against the Revolutionaries will give you 1CP Scandal. There might be a few others I'm forgetting.
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fitz
Posts: 91
11/2/2015
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navchaa wrote:
Thank you for this! My opportunity card deck is ridiculously crowded and my Someone is Coming quality is at something like 25 - so high that it doesn't even say "Just behind your shoulder" anymore. Now I know what to do to reduce it (it annoys me, is all).
If you have that much, you may wish to wait till you get a Shadowy Mood, to maximize your profits.
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