Pyrodinium
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10/25/2015
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I've been thinking about the Masters after doing a certain job with Mr. Pages. Perhaps not all of them aren't that bad.
If my memory serves me right, at least one of them actually likes Fallen London.
Anyways delicious friends, where do each Master's loyalties lie and how sympathizing they are to us citizens of the Neath?
I'm kind of getting fond with Mr. Pages. They're probably the most approachable of the bunch if you got enough literature to keep them entertained.
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Hobnail
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11/6/2015
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WE ARE FODDER
THE MASTERS KEEP US
THEY WILL FORGET US DOWN INTO THE GROUND
THEY WILL MAKE OF US LACRE
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NotaWalrus
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10/25/2015
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These are the allegiances that I know of
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As a general rule, the Masters work for the Bazaar, but by this point they don't really believe that its mission will succeed and just want to get it over with already. The exception seems to be Mr. Wines, but it'd probably betray the Bazaar if that means it would gain something.
Pages only seems to care about his books, it being a massive nerd.
Fires is really, really into London. It loves the industry and the ships and so on and so forth. Fires is actually actively plotting to make London stay for as long as possible. This might bring Eaten-esque consequences for him.
Iron is basically anti-Fires. It is actively plotting so that London is replaced ASAP, it hates the place. It also runs the game of Knife and Candle as a way to spite the Bazaar or something.
Notably, Mr. Eaten used to be really into the second city, didn't end well for it
Veils is just prick.[/spoiler]
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Ignacious, the Fluid Professor, he will accept most social invitations, including boxed cats and affluent photographers (but only betrayals), though he is absent-minded and might take more time than entirely necessary. He apologizes.
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
10/25/2015
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I don't even know which ones are a Whiter Shade of Pale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgTjUloUEI
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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Diptych
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10/25/2015
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Don't let them fool you. They may have their idiosyncrasies, their apparent charm, but they'd have you chained upside-down to a zee-rock to be devoured by sedition-porpoises the moment you became a threat to them.
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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10/25/2015
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I prefer Mr Stones and Mr Iron. At least they're honest in-your-face evil space-bats. I can respect that. Mr Pages or Mr Wines try to make nice, but I don't believe a word of it.
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Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it.
Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely.
Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated.
Dr. Kvirkvelia, gone NORTH on 23/12/1894.
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11/6/2015
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After over a year of reading I'm a Candle, I am agreeing with Spacemarines9 and Supernatural's Dean Winchester's view on Angels that they (well almost all of the Masters) are d***s.
(And I too thank malthaussen, thinking that song the second I read this forum thread title.)
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Diptych
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11/6/2015
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th8827 wrote:
One of the storylets related to Proscribed Materials mentions that some of the Masters may just be the same ones using different names. It specifically mentioned Mr. Mirrors and Mr. Cups as being one and the same. While it was denied, I feel that it may be true.
[spoiler]This has in fact been confirmed! Mirrors and Cups are indeed one and the same, as are Apples and Hearts. Whether any of the others are doubles is not clear, though Mr Chimes and the past few years' Mr Sacks are almost certainly names used by more than one individual.[/spoiler]
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Diptych
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11/7/2015
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I like to hope that Original Sacks is still around somewhere, behind the scenes and leaving Christmas to his temporary replacement, Onion Sacks.... pardon, I mean, Noman Sacks.
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
11/7/2015
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I would like to propose another theory: that Mr. Fires is actually two tiny masters hiding under the same cloak
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A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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th8827
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11/7/2015
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suinicide wrote:
I would like to propose another theory: that Mr. Fires is actually two tiny masters hiding under the same cloak
Only two? Are you sure that he is not a colony of tiny Masters? His voice is different from the other Masters, with strange harmonics, and you need more than two to have the Voice of the Legion.
Either that, or he just does not bother to Whisper, like the other Masters, letting people hear his real voice.
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Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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11/7/2015
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Kittenpox wrote:
the truthseeker wrote:
Hobnail wrote:
WE ARE FODDER
THE MASTERS KEEP US
THEY WILL FORGET US DOWN INTO THE GROUND
THEY WILL MAKE OF US LACRE
You forgot:
THEY WILL USE OUR SOULS AS FUEL
Quick question: Can the (human) residents of the Neath produce children?
Because if so, that's one heck of a renewable energy supply!
Sara Hysaro wrote:
People in the Neath can have children properly. This is true even if they've visited the boatman at some point before conceiving.
As noted by Sarah, returning from Death (or Unnatural Vitality that causes it) does neither prevent births nor mutate people. However, the reason the royal family beneath the cellars is so horribly monstrous is they consumed a large amount of tainted Red Honey. That combined with the unnatural vitalities of the 'Neath (as well as the horrible supernatural things the Masters did to keep their father alive who sired them) caused them to be what horrible thing they are now. That is the exception rather than the rule.
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KestrelGirl wrote:
Back to the number of Masters... if Apples and Hearts are one and the same, and Chimes and Sacks are both fake/Masters under different names, who is Master #11? Because if I remember correctly, it's been explicitly confirmed that there are 11 Masters (not 16, that's a rumor), but all that leaves us with is 10: Apples, Cups, Fires, Iron, Pages, Spices, Stones, Veils, Wines, and Eaten.
The 11th is Sacks. I'm pretty sure that I have read that he used to be a separate Master, but the current ones are filling in for him in recent years.
Always ask the ratty One Spacemarines9 about this kind of question at I'm a Candle. As noted, he believes the 11th is none other than the lost Master
[spoiler] Mr. Eaten or formerly Mr. Candles [/spoiler] as noted here. Another theory of his suggests the Bazaar counts as one. An earlier conjecture can be found here. Sacks however, is not a master but a Noman Lacre Golems reflected of all the Masters. (And yes, that includes the one I mentioned in spoiler above.)
th8827 wrote:
suinicide wrote:
I would like to propose another theory: that Mr. Fires is actually two tiny masters hiding under the same cloak
Only two? Are you sure that he is not a colony of tiny Masters? His voice is different from the other Masters, with strange harmonics, and you need more than two to have the Voice of the Legion.
Either that, or he just does not bother to Whisper, like the other Masters, letting people hear his real voice.
Yep. He does not hide his battiness (wordplay pun intentional.)
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Diptych
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the truthseeker wrote:
That combined with the unnatural vitalities of the 'Neath (as well as the horrible brought-back-from-dying-from-a-snakebite husband of the Duchess that fathered them) caused them to be what horrible thing they are now.
[spoiler]I fear you're conflating your Palace-dwellers. The father of the Empress' children is the brought-back-from-dying-of-Typhoid husband of the Empress, the Prince Consort. The Duchess' husband is the Cantigaster. Both husbands have been messed up badly by Bazaar trickery, but in different ways.[/spoiler]
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Gemma Hawley
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11/8/2015
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That would be perfectly in character, as
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Mourvèdre is a red wine grape varietal. Monsieur Mourvèdre = Mr Wine(grape).
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th8827
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11/7/2015
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KestrelGirl wrote:
Back to the number of Masters... if Apples and Hearts are one and the same, and Chimes and Sacks are both fake/Masters under different names, who is Master #11? Because if I remember correctly, it's been explicitly confirmed that there are 11 Masters (not 16, that's a rumor), but all that leaves us with is 10: Apples, Cups, Fires, Iron, Pages, Spices, Stones, Veils, Wines, and Eaten.
The 11th is Sacks. I'm pretty sure that I have read that he used to be a separate Master, but the current ones are filling in for him in recent years.
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malthaussen
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10/25/2015
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Turned up the four-verse version at another link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYBqv3NIqho
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
10/26/2015
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So they're really not that united and two of them actively oppose each other. Perhaps we can use this to our advantage in the future. Indeed, I do agree with you fellows that one must tread lightly when dealing with them.
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th8827
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11/6/2015
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One of the storylets related to Proscribed Materials mentions that some of the Masters may just be the same ones using different names. It specifically mentioned Mr. Mirrors and Mr. Cups as being one and the same. While it was denied, I feel that it may be true. We already know from the sidebar text that many of them use different names. How are we supposed to know that they only have one name at a time. If you are interested, check my profile, and read the entry I titled "Sixteen Masters" on Nov 2.
That entry implies (among other things) that there are sixteen active, distinct Masters that are visible to society (and we all know about the other one that we don't speak of).
I wonder how many of the Masters have multiple visible personas, and if they act differently when using different names. Maybe the friendly, lovable one that you see often has a meaner persona. How much of their personalities are acts, and how much is genuine? And how many are there really?
I'm just using this as an example, so don't take the next thing as canon. For all we know, Mr. Irons (hates everyone and sponsors knife fights) and Mr. Pages (lovable nerd who uses perfectly cromulent words) can be one and the same. One loves to read and one writes very well. And since Mr. Irons never talks, we don't really know his speech patterns.
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On the topic of allegiances between Masters, the sidebar text implies that...
Mr. Apples and Mr. Veils are allies.
Mr. Wines has a dispute with another Master over who controls Dreams.
Mr. Wines may or may not have commissioned a woman of ill repute to kill a senior devil with a piece of clothing, so he may dislike Hell.
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