 Pyrodinium Posts: 639
10/25/2015
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I've been thinking about the Masters after doing a certain job with Mr. Pages. Perhaps not all of them aren't that bad.
If my memory serves me right, at least one of them actually likes Fallen London.
Anyways delicious friends, where do each Master's loyalties lie and how sympathizing they are to us citizens of the Neath?
I'm kind of getting fond with Mr. Pages. They're probably the most approachable of the bunch if you got enough literature to keep them entertained.
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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 Rupho Schartenhauer Posts: 787
10/25/2015
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I prefer Mr Stones and Mr Iron. At least they're honest in-your-face evil space-bats. I can respect that. Mr Pages or Mr Wines try to make nice, but I don't believe a word of it.
-- Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it. Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely. Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated. Dr. Kvirkvelia, gone NORTH on 23/12/1894.
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 NotaWalrus Posts: 221
10/25/2015
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These are the allegiances that I know of
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As a general rule, the Masters work for the Bazaar, but by this point they don't really believe that its mission will succeed and just want to get it over with already. The exception seems to be Mr. Wines, but it'd probably betray the Bazaar if that means it would gain something.
Pages only seems to care about his books, it being a massive nerd.
Fires is really, really into London. It loves the industry and the ships and so on and so forth. Fires is actually actively plotting to make London stay for as long as possible. This might bring Eaten-esque consequences for him.
Iron is basically anti-Fires. It is actively plotting so that London is replaced ASAP, it hates the place. It also runs the game of Knife and Candle as a way to spite the Bazaar or something.
Notably, Mr. Eaten used to be really into the second city, didn't end well for it
Veils is just prick.[/spoiler] edited by NotaWalrus on 10/25/2015
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/NotaWalrus Ignacious, the Fluid Professor, he will accept most social invitations, including boxed cats and affluent photographers (but only betrayals), though he is absent-minded and might take more time than entirely necessary. He apologizes.
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 malthaussen Posts: 1060
10/25/2015
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I don't even know which ones are a Whiter Shade of Pale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgTjUloUEI
-- Mal
-- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
10/25/2015
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Don't let them fool you. They may have their idiosyncrasies, their apparent charm, but they'd have you chained upside-down to a zee-rock to be devoured by sedition-porpoises the moment you became a threat to them.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
10/25/2015
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malthaussen wrote:
I don't even know which ones are a Whiter Shade of Pale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgTjUloUEI
-- Mal
Good to know I wasn't the only one who got that song stuck in my head after reading the title of this thread :P
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 malthaussen Posts: 1060
10/25/2015
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Turned up the four-verse version at another link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYBqv3NIqho
-- Mal
-- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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 Dante Kinkade Posts: 50
10/25/2015
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Either way, one of my characters main goals after coming to London is to, well lets say help each and every Master have an early 'retirement'.
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 Pyrodinium Posts: 639
10/26/2015
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So they're really not that united and two of them actively oppose each other. Perhaps we can use this to our advantage in the future. Indeed, I do agree with you fellows that one must tread lightly when dealing with them.
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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 th8827 Posts: 823
11/6/2015
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One of the storylets related to Proscribed Materials mentions that some of the Masters may just be the same ones using different names. It specifically mentioned Mr. Mirrors and Mr. Cups as being one and the same. While it was denied, I feel that it may be true. We already know from the sidebar text that many of them use different names. How are we supposed to know that they only have one name at a time. If you are interested, check my profile, and read the entry I titled "Sixteen Masters" on Nov 2.
That entry implies (among other things) that there are sixteen active, distinct Masters that are visible to society (and we all know about the other one that we don't speak of).
I wonder how many of the Masters have multiple visible personas, and if they act differently when using different names. Maybe the friendly, lovable one that you see often has a meaner persona. How much of their personalities are acts, and how much is genuine? And how many are there really?
I'm just using this as an example, so don't take the next thing as canon. For all we know, Mr. Irons (hates everyone and sponsors knife fights) and Mr. Pages (lovable nerd who uses perfectly cromulent words) can be one and the same. One loves to read and one writes very well. And since Mr. Irons never talks, we don't really know his speech patterns.
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On the topic of allegiances between Masters, the sidebar text implies that... Mr. Apples and Mr. Veils are allies. Mr. Wines has a dispute with another Master over who controls Dreams. Mr. Wines may or may not have commissioned a woman of ill repute to kill a senior devil with a piece of clothing, so he may dislike Hell. edited by th8827 on 11/6/2015 edited by th8827 on 11/6/2015
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Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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11/6/2015
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After over a year of reading I'm a Candle, I am agreeing with Spacemarines9 and Supernatural's Dean Winchester's view on Angels that they (well almost all of the Masters) are d***s.
(And I too thank malthaussen, thinking that song the second I read this forum thread title.)
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
11/6/2015
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th8827 wrote:
One of the storylets related to Proscribed Materials mentions that some of the Masters may just be the same ones using different names. It specifically mentioned Mr. Mirrors and Mr. Cups as being one and the same. While it was denied, I feel that it may be true.
[spoiler]This has in fact been confirmed! Mirrors and Cups are indeed one and the same, as are Apples and Hearts. Whether any of the others are doubles is not clear, though Mr Chimes and the past few years' Mr Sacks are almost certainly names used by more than one individual.[/spoiler]
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Hobnail Posts: 179
11/6/2015
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WE ARE FODDER
THE MASTERS KEEP US
THEY WILL FORGET US DOWN INTO THE GROUND
THEY WILL MAKE OF US LACRE
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hobnail
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11/6/2015
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Hobnail wrote:
WE ARE FODDER
THE MASTERS KEEP US
THEY WILL FORGET US DOWN INTO THE GROUND
THEY WILL MAKE OF US LACRE
You forgot:
THEY WILL USE OUR SOULS AS FUEL
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 th8827 Posts: 823
11/7/2015
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I read something interesting while vacationing in the Tomb Colonies.
After agreeing to help build the Grand Sanatorium, I learned that they currently import their marble from Italy. (read about it in my profile page). In the sidebar, it mentioned that Mr. Stone used to trade as Mr. Marble until something happened at the Tomb Colonies. Coincidence? I think not.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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 KestrelGirl Posts: 138
11/7/2015
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Back to the number of Masters... if Apples and Hearts are one and the same, and Chimes and Sacks are both fake/Masters under different names, who is Master #11? Because if I remember correctly, it's been explicitly confirmed that there are 11 Masters (not 16, that's a rumor), but all that leaves us with is 10: Apples, Cups, Fires, Iron, Pages, Spices, Stones, Veils, Wines, and Eaten.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/KestrelGirl The Sociable Academic/KestrelGirl, an inescapable, sagacious, irresistible and breathtaking Lady of Some Importance. (Also add: terrifying, lethal, and perhaps midnight.) Proud owner of the Neathy Informer, a newspaper dedicated to the truth. Help me out with my FL/SS lore wiki, The Fifth City! http://www.thefifthcity.wikia.com
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
11/7/2015
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I like to hope that Original Sacks is still around somewhere, behind the scenes and leaving Christmas to his temporary replacement, Onion Sacks.... pardon, I mean, Noman Sacks.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Kittenpox Posts: 869
11/7/2015
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the truthseeker wrote:
Hobnail wrote:
WE ARE FODDER
THE MASTERS KEEP US
THEY WILL FORGET US DOWN INTO THE GROUND
THEY WILL MAKE OF US LACRE
You forgot:
THEY WILL USE OUR SOULS AS FUEL
Quick question: Can the (human) residents of the Neath produce children? [spoiler](I think I remembered reading that it was possible but there were some complications or something, or they came out weird. I can't remember the specifics at all.)[/spoiler] Because if so, that's one heck of a renewable energy supply!
-- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
11/7/2015
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People in the Neath can have children properly. This is true even if they've visited the boatman at some point before conceiving.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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 th8827 Posts: 823
11/7/2015
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KestrelGirl wrote:
Back to the number of Masters... if Apples and Hearts are one and the same, and Chimes and Sacks are both fake/Masters under different names, who is Master #11? Because if I remember correctly, it's been explicitly confirmed that there are 11 Masters (not 16, that's a rumor), but all that leaves us with is 10: Apples, Cups, Fires, Iron, Pages, Spices, Stones, Veils, Wines, and Eaten. The 11th is Sacks. I'm pretty sure that I have read that he used to be a separate Master, but the current ones are filling in for him in recent years.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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