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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

10/21/2015
Starting out in FL can be overwhelming at first. So much to do, so many complications. While there is a lot of good content here in the forum, a player does have to work a bit to mine all the resources. (I'd definitely recommend reading the beginner's thread, or at least the initial portions which are actually about beginners... it kind of got off track after a bit).
There are obviously many experienced players who have been in FL for years, but a new player might be somewhat timid in tugging on their coattails, and in any event, they probably already have a circle of acquaintances with whom they have been corresponding for a long time. And it is likely that their interests will be far different from someone who is still stumbling around the first four regions of the game, wondering what to do next.
What I'm proposing here is that newish players -- People of Some Insignificance, I like to call us -- might effectively use the social actions and the forum to band together in a mutual circle of acquaintance of our own, to help each other out with social actions and menace reduction, and possibly even share in the cooperative efforts that the more experienced players don't want to do, usually because they carry a penalty irrelevant to the novice. (For example, Loitering Suspiciously will lower one's Connected: Society, a point of consideration to a PoSI, but of no consequence to a novice who probably has no social connection at all). And there are some opportunities which can be shared that will result in a small pecuniary reward, and while a couple of quid is a bagatelle to someone with a suite at the Royal Beth, it is a conspicuous windfall to someone shivering in a garret.
If you think this idea has merit, append your name to this thread with a link to your character, and we can start contacting each other to form our merry little band. (I strongly advise appending a link to the signature in your profile: in-game open the "Myself" tab, click on "View Profile" below your character pic, and copy the URL of your "Mantlepiece" to the "Signature" field of your forum profile).

-- Mal

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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Hannah Flynn
Hannah Flynn
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10/21/2015
We celebrate this idea! How delightful.


As only a very small proportion of players join the forum, maybe reddit would also be a good bet? Or twitter - dare I mention a hashtag?


I would be happy to support and amplify your efforts wherever I can. smile

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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

11/18/2015
Well, bully for me! As of tonight, I am a Person of Some Little Consequence! Didn't realize my modified Persuasive was 102.

-- Mal

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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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th8827
th8827
Posts: 823

11/22/2015
After going back for the Expedition, I found that the opportunity to hinder my Rival only appears at 3+ Rival Progress, and at specific Airs of the Forgotten Quarter.

EDIT: I suggest 15 extra Supplies if you are going for the Tomb of Seven. The Rival points really start adding up, and if you don't get lucky enough to get enough Rival Thwarting actions, you need 10 Supplies to stop them.


EDIT2: And a clutch victory at the Expedition. I was at 9 Rival Progress and 29 Archaeology Progress, and a hinder option appeared. I failed with a second chance, and kept failing until I ran out of Second chances... then I succeeded!
edited by th8827 on 11/22/2015

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NiteBrite
NiteBrite
Posts: 1014

11/23/2015
malthaussen wrote:
The first question would be, then, how does one advance to the Moon League?

-- Mal

Step 1: Get a form (skip if you already have K&C stats)
To advance to the moon league, you must first have a K&C form. To get your first K&C form, you need the item 'A Sense of Urgency' which is delivered once a week via a living storylet (similar to time the healer). You enroll in this living story automatically by joining K&C for the first time (it also delivers iron knife tokens). When you have this item, a new pinned storylet appears in through-out London called 'Knife-and-Candle: an opening' and it has the K&C logo as its story art. Use this to select a form, any form. A form is a set or loadout of K&C stats, but that's not so important right now. All that matters is that you get a form (note this makes you eligible for attack).

Alternatively: You can also gain your initial K&C form from the following cards: The Tower of Sun and Moon, The Western Tower, The Lofty Tower, A polite Invitation, A Little Omen, A Dusty Bookshop, The Softhearted Widow, and An Implausible Penance. These cards function identically to the 'A Sense of Urgency' storylet and are the way the Iron Leagues are played (the more of these cards you own the more attacks you get in the iron leagues).

Step 2: Go to the following storylet
Watchmakers Hill > Knife-and-Candle: The Gamekeeper's Cottage (note this place does -not- provide safe haven as its text implies) > Knife-and-Candle: The Underground Leagues > Join the Moon League

This will remove your form, but move you to the moon leagues where all duels are consensual and you don't have to worry about getting randomly owned by a stranger in the night who takes all your things just because they can. Note, you can still lose your things to an elusive fight in the moon leagues, only its more your own fault if it happens in the moon league than a random drive-by as it is in the iron leagues. You don't need any fancy items or lodgings or cards to play the moon duels. You get free form changes after every moon duel and it really allows you to learn and explore the mechanics at your own pace unlike the iron leagues where it throws you head first to the wolves (it's not a bad place to -visit- if you learn enough to become a wolf though).

Regain your form using the methods described in step 1. Congrats, you are now moon league duel eligible.
edited by NiteBrite on 11/23/2015
edited by NiteBrite on 11/23/2015

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NiteBrite
NiteBrite
Posts: 1014

11/24/2015
Okay, this took a long time to write, and I started to run out of steam near the end so it's not as polished and edited as it could be. It doesnt cover 100% of everything but its still pretty good if I do say so myself. Anyways, I now have for your reference a basic guide to the key terms and mechanics of the game of Knife and Candle: Click Here

Edit: Let me know if you have any further questions with regards to Knife and Candle.
edited by NiteBrite on 11/24/2015

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John Savage
John Savage
Posts: 198

12/19/2015
Ladies, gentlemen, rubbery men, snuffers, and assorted [gendertitles]...

I thank you for all your help.... I am 6 minutes from being the Fifth City's newest Enforcer!

I have been drawing patiently... writing a few works and catching a few dangerous beesties in the meantime... I got the card allowing me to do a little piracy yesterday.... and just now I got my ol' pal, the Repentant Forger to let me come by....

At last!!

EDIT: Froot
edited by John Savage on 12/19/2015
edited by John Savage on 12/19/2015

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th8827
th8827
Posts: 823

12/19/2015
Here's another tip for new players. You should work through all four stats while playing. They all have interesting stories, and you will need to get all four up to 100 in order to become a POSI (Person of Some Interest).

For the four Second Chance activities, Chess, Sparring, and Coffee are good for anyone. Suspicious Loitering drops Connected:Society, so only do that if neither you or your friend has (or values) that connection... and Making Waves, which is pretty valuable for POSI.

If you need Menace reduction, most of us are happy to help, as long as our own menace levels are not too high. For Nightmares, Scandals, and Suspicion, you need to send out the invites to us (don't pick the negative option, unless we agree first or you state it in your request), but for Wounds, the other person has to offer, so let us know if you are badly wounded.

If anyone is seeking the Affluent Photographer, feel free to send me dupes. I already got both of the prizes, so I don't need the points, but I welcome the free bat that you get from a fake request (and you get 2 points instead of one, so it is win-win)

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/9/2015
    I am now an extrodinary mind!

    You may ask Mr. Grenem, Mrs. takuza, Mrs. Grenem or Mr. takuza for insights as to being watchful. (two, not four people. having two opposite gendered souls in your body really damns any chances of a stable single gender identity.) Sadly, as mentorship is less effective the more people i have, I will only accept two primary mentorees, and will give each two lessons a week. (unless you would rather 1, in which case mention that in the request.) Once these slots are taken, there will be one auxilary protege, who will only recieve one lesson a week.

    Each lesson will consume one free evening from both of us, So plan accordingly in choosing. It should give exceptional stat growths, though.

    EDIT: also note that you must approach me in-game. You're the one who can request mentorship, not me!
    edited by Grenem on 12/9/2015
    edited by Grenem on 12/9/2015

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    Parelle
    Parelle
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    1/14/2016
    Just wanted to point out a buying guide (and, a not-buying guide!) which came up on a different thread: http://community.failbettergames.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=21483&Page=3&MessageID=126925#post126925#post126816

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    Màiread
    Màiread
    Posts: 385

    1/24/2016
    You always get the items from thefts of particular character; as you've seen, failure just takes a big chunk out of your casing.

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    Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |

    Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.

    I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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    Rimerick Sneed
    Rimerick Sneed
    Posts: 2

    1/25/2016
    Fellow Fallen Londoners and scholarly folk!

    I have birthed a scholarly gentleman within this bizarre world. I had a few minor misadventures a few years ago, and a renewed interest in literature (and the peculiar time restrictions that are part of the college-ly life) brought me back!

    I'm on the lookout for fellow scholars, curmudgeons, and various miscreants of many sorts. Mayhaps our services could be mutually beneficial.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rimerick~Sneed

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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2561

    11/23/2015
    Well, has anyone ever seen the Last Constable and the Secular Missionary at the same place and at the same time? Sounds suspicious to me... :-)

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/25/2015
    @ th8827 Shhhh! They'll catch on...


    S&M Abuse - Why is there a 50 Shades emoji? Why did I not know this sooner?

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    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    NiteBrite
    NiteBrite
    Posts: 1014

    11/23/2015
    Give me a bit and I will write you a true and proper guide to the fundamentals of K&C. As someone who once stabbed over 900 delicious friends and who used to do 10 moon duels a day I know a thing or two about K&C. There's just a lot to cover, so it may take a little while. I do suggest if you are new to the game, that you make your way to the moon leagues as soon as possible. The moon league is setup to be 1000% more new player friendly than the iron leagues (which are highly unfair and unbalanced to new players or players who don't have all the four card lodgings + PoSI status + high criminal reputation). Also lodgings dont help (defensively) in new K&C, the defense stats were from old K&C and are no longer relevant.
    edited by NiteBrite on 11/23/2015

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    Sestina Valdis
    Sestina Valdis
    Posts: 210

    11/23/2015
    John Savage wrote:


    And I attacked a delicious friend from here.... and lost.... oh well... other chances will arise.



    This is that delicious friend's first time trying this too, because that delicious friend has never been very much into PvP at all. If you'd like, that delicious friend wouldn't mind sending you a few requests until things work out! (Depending on what you are aiming for. What are you aiming for?)

    To be honest, that delicious friend was going to withdraw from KnC because that delicious friend's main character got attacked and lost a brass ring. (Right before zailing off to Polythreme, too...) That delicious friend only wanted monthly freebies. upset But if you have something you hope to get out of KnC, that delicious friend would be happy to acquiesce!

    Pyro: I think an important question to ask would: what is the character's backstory! How did a hybrid come to be? Was it the result of some sort of civil (maybe not the best word to use :P) partnership? Can Rubberies and humans even reproduce biologically? Or did something sinister go on? Was the correspondence involved, or simply a great degree of lemony slime? I'm not an expert on characterisation at all but I think working out the char's origins would go a long way to working out their personality, how else they've been shaped, etc. Esp. in your character's case, since they're an odd exception. (Btw, the cameo is perfect!)
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/23/2015

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/25/2015
    What a half-hour! Betrayal of Alice to the masters. A trip round London. A visit to the Bazaar. (a minor, if expensive confusion about beeswax). A penny-farthing purchase. And I am now a POSI!

    Kneel! -I AM YOUR GOD NOW!

    (Please read that sign as 'Hail Delicious Friends!' Froot )
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/25/2015

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    "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."

    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    12/1/2015
    Yay! I won a game of Candle Knifing!


    In other news, Mr. Pages is camping in my drawn card pile until I write a book for him...


    EDIT: I seem to be failing way more often than I should for a 60% chance of success... So many wounds, and that drunk Cavalry Officer does not want to show up to be robbed of his delicious healing tonic (and occasional expensive sword-cane)

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    Màiread
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    Posts: 385

    11/18/2015
    Using your docks connection is probably the most cost-effective way to get supplies. Unless your dangerous is low (below 90) grinding docks connections is mostly reliant on the faction card. However, investing in the pewter tankard item is a wise move - you'll get a bunch of connection for a small amount of glim, which is easily available.

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    Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |

    Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.

    I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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    Sara Hysaro
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    11/20/2015
    I think the Thieves' Cache gives 1 CP towards Archaeologist and the Deep Blue Heaven gives 2. Both can raise it to 5.

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    Lisbella Peridot
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    Posts: 138

    10/21/2015
    I am joining up. Link in signature.

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    Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now.

    Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender
    Kelly is taking a long break on isolation.

    I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot!
    I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2561

    3/26/2016
    First of all, welcome!
    Enjoy the Fallen London experience. The community here is eager to help newcomers.

    Here are more detailed responses to your questions, in a spoiler tag just to keep the thread clean because it's long:

    [spoiler]
    First, about the wikis:
    I'm not sure what you mean by "green wiki" vs. "black and white wiki",
    • There's the wikidot site, which some like because of its layout. But you should be aware that's it is *very* much out of date. The game is very dynamic, and things change all the time, so the wikidot wiki is only right for those things that have stayed static in the game for a long long time. Don't rely on it much.
    • And there's the wikia site, which is *very* much up to date, as active players keep updating it, often within minutes of noticing something has changed in-game.

    Of course, both are not official, so they are only as accurate as community volunteers can make them.

    Both wiki sites have a very good search function right at the top of the page.

    Diamonds:
    You've mentioned uses for a Magnificent Diamond: Indeed one can be used in a marriage, but there are a couple of other usages here and there, though nothing you'll need as a new player. It's up to you if to save it for *way* later or sell for cash. You can always get a new diamond later if you want, though it might take some time and effort.


    Menaces:
    Part of the game is managing various menaces. You mention that your Nightmares are around 4-5. There are gear you can buy at the Bazaar which can help with such menaces. For example, buying A Cheerful Goldfish (costs only 0.40 echoes) and equipping it will give you -1 to Nightmares.

    Now, don't be too afraid of menaces (especially not that early in the game). It's almost impossible for you to cause permanent damage to yourself (even dying isn't permanent in the Neath). If any of your menaces reaches 8, then you get sent to the relevant menace area. This is interesting by itself, and it's often recommended to try at least once each of the menace areas. There are also unique items which can be found only in the menace areas, and some storylines will lead you there anyway.


    Buying/Selling/Hoarding:
    New players often are at a loss as to what to buy, what to sell and what to hoard.

    The general advice is: never sell an item unless you need the echoes. After all, you never know when you might need it, and you can always sell later (the Bazaar's prices are fixed).

    Remember that the Bazaar is always the expensive option to get something (the buying cost of an item is often twice its sell price), but sometimes that's the most accessible option. Look at various gear that the Bazaar have, look at how much cash you have, and make a decision if paying a certain amount of echoes is worth the stated bonuses of that item. The very cheap items are usually safe to buy early in the game, since you can easily afford them.


    Fate:
    This is trickier. While playing the game, certain main storylines will occasionally give you a point of free Fate, but that it rare and limited. You usually get Fate by paying real money.

    Now, what to do with Fate?

    Some storylets and some cards might have one action which is Fate locked. The ones which cost very little Fate (< 10) usually provide a bit of lore and maybe some items (nothing unique) or a unique outcome (e.g. when your Nightmares reach 5 and you start encountering a certain merry gentleman, one of the options is to pay Fate in return to eliminating all of your Nightmares).

    I highly recommend *not* to use Fate to refresh your actions/cards unless you have a very tight schedule and it's worth the price to you in real money (don't expect to keep getting free Fate from the game).

    The more interesting use of Fate are the stories found under the Fate tab. These usually cost much more Fate than you can received "free" in-game, and so require real money to unlock. We can't discuss the content of Fate locked stories on the forum (these are premium content), but if you're curious about any of them, feel free to ask on the relevant forum and people will give hints (publicly) or tell you exactly what to expect (in a private message). For now, let me just say that some Fate stories are considered "better" than others. Personally, I'd recommend that you wait a couple of weeks until you feel you got a better handle on the core game before buying extra content which might confuse you even more :-)

    Now, if you're considering spending much Fate (i.e. real world money) on extra content, then I suggest subscribing as an Exceptional Friend. This has several significant benefits:
    • Your action counters increases up to 40 actions, instead of 20.
    • Your card deck can hold 10 cards instead of 6
    • You get access to the House of Chimes, which is pretty nice and has unique content.
    • But most importantly - you get access to a unique monthly story. Until now, these have been almost always excellent. For non-subscribers, these stories become available after a few months, but at very high Fate cost. You don't have to worry about being too low-level for these stories - they are designed to be accessible to all players, and the nice thing is that once you trigger each month's story, you can always come back to complete it at anytime in the future (e.g. after leveling up a bit and acquiring items).

    [/spoiler]

    Have fun, and don't hesitate to ask if you have any further questions!

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/9/2016
    For those of you in the young-turk's club- unless you have a fate-locked companion to obtain, the masqueing is availible outside the gift exchange, and it is generally more efficient to aquire your desired companions in this manner.

    Exchanging gifts is fun, so feel free to do it anyways, but they aren't all that immidiately useful.
    edited by Grenem on 2/9/2016

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    Erasmus Widdershins
    Erasmus Widdershins
    Posts: 5

    2/11/2016
    Splendid, thank you! I have offered back an Illicit Volume of Unexpectedly Racy Fungal-Themed Poetry-- I hope it isn't misinterpreted. After all, who doesn't love mushrooms? Erm. By love I mean, encounter them in stews. Erm. By stews, I mean a nice, hot, steamy...oh, nevermind. Stopping while ahead.

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    Recently dropped down from the surface, but always pleased to make new acquaintances, oh delicious friends
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    7/17/2016
    I have some advice for some new players.

    You can get a 4 Card Lodging for about 100 Muscaria Brandy (and 500 Brilliant Souls). You get 4 Muscaria Brandy for each Public Attention that you turn in. This Election can help give you a head start on saving up for your 4 Card Lodging.

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    flickmcbic
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    Posts: 1

    10/26/2015
    What a splendid idea! I'm in...

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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    11/15/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    When one chooses the healing action -- which is a subset of the "Inivite a Friend to do Something Dangerous" choice in your lodgings -- he is sent to a screen with a pull-down list showing all eligible contacts. If you have 3 or more wounds, you're on the list. This is true of all social actions: when you select one, you're sent to a list of eligible acquaintances with whom to do it.
    Try one yourself, and you'll see what I mean. And that is why, e.g., I sent you an offer of healing.smile
    As for healing, it costs the healer nothing but an action point. That's not a particularly valuable commodity.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/15/2015


    Yes.... I had JUST found this..... I AM learning, despite my many failings :-)

    Thanks for the help.... everyone!!

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    Gonen
    Gonen
    Posts: 817

    11/15/2015
    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    I hope everyone's POSI grinding is going well, mine I admit is more of a contented meander -so if in need do feel free to send over your menace reductions. Thank-you for the advice on Cat and Mouse - that had been puzzling me for a while. But speaking of Stat bumping, now that I have one, what is the best use of Trade Secrets. If I'm understanding the wiki right it looks like it might be best to turn it into Antique Mysteries and Searing Enigmas - or maybe to save for use in story writing? Thanks in advance.



    Well... I don't think there IS a best use for Trade Secrets (TS). When I was younger, I liked the stat bump. WOOOSH! Look at that stat go!
    Later on I used it once for Antique Mysteries when pursued 4-card lodging (Royal Beth) and needed 50 of those. Was small help but it helped.
    Now I'm saving two for writing a short story, since I decided I wanted the best potential one can get when writing a short story - though this is only for bragging rights and have NO significance in the game what so ever. You maybe won't even find that interesting to ever start that kind of grind.
    So, really, it depends on your wish and current position in life (maybe stat bumps are not as important when your a veteran and completed most stories, etc.)

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    Kaigen
    Kaigen
    Posts: 528

    11/18/2015
    Plus, the Tankard can be sold back for most of it's purchase price, so if you ever decide you're completely done with expeditions and sell it, you're only out 2.5 echoes.

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    "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible."
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    Baron Leichtsinn
    Baron Leichtsinn
    Posts: 34

    11/21/2015
    Ah! Intriguing. Feel free to contact me over any matters, social or unsocial. I am always glad to make acquaintances of the irritating kind.
    But for now a hole that i cut into a hedge in the gardens of the shattered palace needs my full attention. Toodeloo.

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    11/20/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    I found the Bejewelled Cane somewhat underwhelming as a reward of the Lapidary thread, especially given the amount of resources one has to throw at the problem to get it. Is the Bizarre trait really worth the trouble? There are plenty of ways to get the +4 Persuasive.
    Or does the Lapidary come again at some point?

    -- Mal

    It gets her out of your hair, which is pretty valuable alone. (otherwise, she pesters you incessantly until you do.) nightmares -1 on a viable peice of equipment at your level is nice, and you did get 10 confident smiles over the course of the quest. still, yeah, the reward is lacklustre.

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    Ridagoth
    Ridagoth
    Posts: 86

    11/20/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    I found the Bejewelled Cane somewhat underwhelming as a reward of the Lapidary thread, especially given the amount of resources one has to throw at the problem to get it. Is the Bizarre trait really worth the trouble? There are plenty of ways to get the +4 Persuasive.
    Or does the Lapidary come again at some point?

    -- Mal

    It's one of my favorite items in the weapons category mostly because of how unique it is. There are certainly better persuasive weapons, and there are other items you can get regularly (non-fate) that give bizarre, but the nightmare reduction is unique to that weapon. As far as I know, no other weapon offers nightmare reduction (it needs to be equipped in order for it to take effect). I can understand your underwhelming feeling given all the Glim one has to give for it. As far as I know, there are no other uses for it, but at least the card is gone from your deck, if that offers any consolation, as Grenem pointed out. Bizarre can help with Notability gain (Person of Some Importance quality) and finding a certain map at least, and there are other situational uses too like a certain club entry with someone, using a certain card's (like on some connected pets) option, etc. Bizarre is one of three qualities that can help reduce your making waves needed for Notability gain, a Person of Some Importance quality in the game to fiddle around with.
    edited by Ridagoth on 11/20/2015

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/26/2015
    I finally finished the Casing shadowy actions, and the Black Ribbon Duels. Time to hunt for exhibits to the Labyrinth of Tigers.

    If anyone wants to Spar, send me invites, because I can use the second chances.
    I would also greatly appreciate medical attention.
    edited by th8827 on 11/26/2015

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/4/2015
    Can't speak for anyone else, but mine are passing acceptably. On #9 of the tears I'm hoping to gather, working on #10. Gathering coins for when more new player show up, sending a handful to a non-POSI i met. Leveling and, of course, enjoying the expedition funds i recieved today. 62.5 echoes is still nice, if not the king's ransom it once felt like.

    EDIT: on that note, now is the optimal time to introduce players to the game. the advent calendar is decently lucrative for everyone, ofc, but especially for novices. entering the game with a primeaval hint in your pocket will make equipping yourself far easier.
    edited by Grenem on 12/4/2015

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    11/23/2015
    Pyrodinium wrote:
    Rudolph of Taured is open to all actions. I'm also open to suggestions on how to go about RP'ing a Rubbery hybrid for this character Big Grin

    Pyro is open for actions that are not loitering or photography.

    Well, if you go by the material in my newspaper (don't, unless you like lies obscured by truth. jaeger knitter sweaters, anyone?), there are a lot of ways one could have come about, such as the Unbound Adjuster shfiting the boundry of human and rubbery, or the Word Warper saying that's impossible, or any number of embarrasing things one can do with a soul. Now, in real life it's harder than that- humans tend to revert back to their original state from modifications no matter what happens.

    maybe he's cold and cynical, because no one really treats rubberies well, and he can't speak the rubbery language that well either- he has trouble pronouncing english as well, though, and he's had multiple close calls with mobs.

    maybe he's warm and open to those he trusts, but careful around others. if you're roleplaying a rubbery, he should not be open with the general public, but rather cautious. there may be exceptions, but rubberies are not treated well, and half-rubberies would be treated even worse. At least he's not half clay man. he should be more careful around death- i'm not sure rubberies come back here, since we know certain other obscure species don't, so he's going to want to be very careful around it in-character. (in order, according to the newpaper "Newspaper" fae, vampires, face-stealers and devils do not come back the same ways we do from death, if they can at all. tsukunogami, though, come back exactly the same way we do.)
    edited by Grenem on 11/23/2015

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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    11/23/2015
    Gillsing wrote:
    malthaussen wrote:
    To clarify: I just pulled the "Implausable Pennance" card, which allows one to change (or assume) form or to "attack another player." So, I'm guessing attack opportunities are tied to cards, but you don't get to choose whom to attack.

    -- Mal

    You get to choose who to attack, but you're restricted to whichever contacts you have that are eligible to be attacked in the Iron league.
    edited by Gillsing on 11/22/2015


    And I attacked a delicious friend from here.... and lost.... oh well... other chances will arise.

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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2561

    11/23/2015
    NiteBrite wrote:
    Alternatively: You can also gain your initial K&C form from the following cards: The Tower of Sun and Moon, The Western Tower, The Lofty Tower, A polite Invitation, A Little Omen, The Softhearted Widow, and An Implausible Penance. These cards function identically to the 'A Sense of Urgency' storylet and are the way the Iron Leagues are played (the more of these cards you own the more attacks you get in the iron leagues).

    If you're mentioning the "A little omen" card, might as well add "A dusty bookshop" :-)

    Also, for new players: Playing the K&C option on any of these 8 cards will remove your Sense of Urgency, if you have one. So always play the Sense of Urgency storylet first, and only then a K&C option on a card.

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    infinitestars
    infinitestars
    Posts: 4

    11/24/2015
    I'd like to join this 'club', is it still possible? Fallen London is exciting enough on it's own, but I'd like to be able to access the more social stories

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    1/24/2016
    I am now a Crooked Cross. Got it on the first Unsigned Message card, too.

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    Sestina Valdis
    Sestina Valdis
    Posts: 210

    1/24/2016
    I just wanted to thank everyone here-- Sestina hit 200 on all her stats yesterday! So, thank you all for the menace heals, the duels, dinners, chess, etc. Since she won't really be training her stats much (which usually leads me to lower the success rate of grinding actions to 90% with gear), she should be open to all menace-healing invitations from now on.

    Also, she just bought an Overgoat. Big Grin Thanks for all the lucrative social actions, too! (e.g. gifts and Neath's Mysteries cards)

    Next stop: the Iron Republic. ._. Hopefully nothing too strange happens!
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 1/24/2016

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    12/23/2015
    Since I have just gone insane (again), I remembered a nice piece of advice for you guys. If you have a Memory of Light in your possession as you go insane, you end up at the Mirror-Marches. The temple complex is a good place to grind Eyes of Icarus and Walking the Fallen Cities while reducing Nightmares. And failure does not increase menace, either.

    That entire area is really nice.

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    Guest

    12/23/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    Since I have just gone insane (again), I remembered a nice piece of advice for you guys. If you have a Memory of Light in your possession as you go insane, you end up at the Mirror-Marches. The temple complex is a good place to grind Eyes of Icarus and Walking the Fallen Cities while reducing Nightmares. And failure does not increase menace, either.

    That entire area is really nice.

    Since you're asking for good tips while in Toon Tow...err the Mirror-Marches, here is a good tip to do before you go Insane assuming your Watchful total is 60 or higher:




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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    12/24/2015
    Hey! I finally opened the Bazaar Sidestreets! I'm getting there.... slowly, but slowly :-)

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    12/24/2015
    Congratulations, John! You do know the Barrister didn't mean "tomorrow" literally, I hope? You're only a velocipede away...

    -- Mal

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    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/24/2015
    tommorow, you will recieve a feast. do not consume it, until you have been in the nadir. the loss of irrigo is amazingly valuable, and the other factors are no substitute. As such, do not waste it until the loss of irrigo will aid you!

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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    12/20/2015
    Hope that Horsehead Amulet wasn't needed for later.... I.... uh.... kinda used it.... LOL

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    Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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    Bullfinch
    Bullfinch
    Posts: 2

    1/8/2016
    Hello, delicious neighbours!
    If the club is still accepting new members, I would like to join. It's dangerous to go alone.
    The nightmares are becoming a problem, and friendly face could be a real help in many other common scenarious. Help me, and I will help you in return. After all, that's what neighbours are for.


    Stats:
    Watchful 48
    Shadowy 10
    Dangerous 23
    Persuasive 11

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    Invite me to anything. All invitations will be accepted (if possible).
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    navchaa
    navchaa
    Posts: 540

    12/16/2015
    Grenem - are you looking specifically for non-PoSI/Young Turks? If it's a surprise package exchange, I think the general sentiment is that they won't want to spare 10 echoes every few cards. I remember discarding the Give a Gift! card many times earlier in the game as I simply couldn't afford even to send second chances, let alone rats or echoes.

    Right now I'm a fairly seasoned PoSI (so not quite Janissary, sadly) and I've only recently been rolling in the dough enough to afford sending surprise packages as and when. smile

    But I'm intrigued, because I've just sold my soul and am not sure if there are non-fate options beyond surprise packages that give it back.

    Back on topic for Young Turks - I really wish I'd not gone crazy trying to grind everything and get to PoSI at the soonest possible. Fallen London is such a vast world, it's nice to take your time and not do the most efficient thing. Even now, after about 5 months of PoSI-hood, I still haven't done quite a lot of content and I don't feel like I'm losing out - because that's all waiting for me some candles later. One reason why this game has longevity for me is that I don't feel like I'm missing out if I rush, and it doesn't require me to spend ages and ages grinding for something if I don't want to. My advice for all, whether Young Turk or Janissary - don't rush, enjoy the ride. We're stuck in the Neath, so it's about the journey and not the ending, for there is none!


    Grenem wrote:
    Random question:
    Who here wants their soul back and/or is seeking SOTC 10, and would like some help with that? please PM me. (surprise packages have a 1 in 1008 chance of the recovery of a soul, and a 1 in 110 of 1 point SOTC.)


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    Michile
    Michile
    Posts: 44

    12/16/2015
    Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to POSI I go. I want to thank all the little people who made it all possible.

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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    12/17/2015
    Rysiek wrote:
    Um, sorry, but what do you mean by joining? Does that mean I had to apply to join before posting hereWhaaaaa? ? Damnupset



    Application Accepted!

    Your Connected: Young Turks is increasing...

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    Calacene
    Calacene
    Posts: 1

    12/18/2015
    I'd be interested in joining! New to the game, and I don't know anyone.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Calacene

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    Sir Montag
    Sir Montag
    Posts: 1

    12/20/2015
    I too am a fairly new resident of fallen london and am looking for a bit of company.

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    Lisbella Peridot
    Lisbella Peridot
    Posts: 138

    12/20/2015
    If you are willing to become a rat catchers or steal rats in Spite, you can convert all of them to Rostygold at a rate of 10 Rat to 11 Gold in one action. The longer you hold off doing it, the more profitable the conversion is.

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    Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now.

    Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender
    Kelly is taking a long break on isolation.

    I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot!
    I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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    Sestina Valdis
    Sestina Valdis
    Posts: 210

    12/16/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    Ugh! So I'm right where I've been for weeks.... waiting for cards..... except I am about to run out of space for cards, requiring me to ditch cards I currently need but can't use.....



    I know it seems easy for me to say this, but don't worry too much about getting what you want in FL, and keep your chin up always! Don't give up (now I sound like a motivational postcard and that's sickening, but I like to think that it's true that one shouldn't give up or be too dejected about things). It will come eventually. And the agonising rarity of the cards just makes the success of things all the more sweeter. It's weird but it always works out in a neat yet perverse, Stockholm syndrome kind of way... In the meantime, perhaps you can look to other goals, or create your own. That's the fun of things in this game. E.g. I know someone who was grinding for exactly 1000 souls as a non-PoSI.

    (Also it's 3am here so, goodnight and GL with things!)

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    Formaldehyde
    Formaldehyde
    Posts: 10

    12/19/2015
    Greetings, fond friends. I am a new arrival to this fair metropolis, but would be honoured to join your company if you would have me.

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    Penelope Vespers
    Penelope Vespers
    Posts: 15

    12/19/2015
    I am new to the 'Neath and delighted by its potential for knowledge and decadence, I'd be honoured to be accounted among one of your own. I am of course Penelope Vespers, poet of some fame to be.

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    navchaa
    navchaa
    Posts: 540

    12/21/2015
    Yes, you do get the rats back. In fact you can avoid paying the hefty entry fee upfront by going in on a day pass (or two!) and progressing enough to talk to the Tiger Keeper and do business with it. You'll get 7000 rats for that, and can trade it in for permanent access.

    Regarding the pesky plant, I can assure you that after a while, it tires of rats. Mine's voracious appetite currently extends to coalmen and vicars. Not something that I can talk about much at dinner parties.

    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    The rats can be useful for entry into the Labyrinth of Tigers (which, I think, gives them back at some point later. =P). Also, that idiot plant consumes lots of rats... Sestina has a modest stockpile of 6k lying around for its nutritional needs.


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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/21/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    Hope that Horsehead Amulet wasn't needed for later.... I.... uh.... kinda used it.... LOL

    It's only more useful if something would kill you worse than just dead- if it'd leave a mangled corpse with wounds over lv. 8, for instance. otherwise, it's always equal. just avoiding death at a different point.

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    12/21/2015
    navchaa wrote:
    Yes, you do get the rats back. In fact you can avoid paying the hefty entry fee upfront by going in on a day pass (or two!) and progressing enough to talk to the Tiger Keeper and do business with it. You'll get 7000 rats for that, and can trade it in for permanent access.
    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    The rats can be useful for entry into the Labyrinth of Tigers (which, I think, gives them back at some point later. =P). Also, that idiot plant consumes lots of rats... Sestina has a modest stockpile of 6k lying around for its nutritional needs.

    You can get a free, permanent entry to the Labrynth by finishing the Black Ribbon duels, then helping Mr. Inch capture monsters. Save your rats for other needs.
    edited by th8827 on 12/21/2015

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/16/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    John Savage wrote:
    Ugh! So I'm right where I've been for weeks.... waiting for cards..... except I am about to run out of space for cards, requiring me to ditch cards I currently need but can't use.....



    I know it seems easy for me to say this, but don't worry too much about getting what you want in FL, and keep your chin up always! Don't give up (now I sound like a motivational postcard and that's sickening, but I like to think that it's true that one shouldn't give up or be too dejected about things). It will come eventually. And the agonising rarity of the cards just makes the success of things all the more sweeter. It's weird but it always works out in a neat yet perverse, Stockholm syndrome kind of way... In the meantime, perhaps you can look to other goals, or create your own. That's the fun of things in this game. E.g. I know someone who was grinding for exactly 1000 souls as a non-PoSI.

    (Also it's 3am here so, goodnight and GL with things!)


    I guess I am mostly frustrated that this game seems SO easy for everyone else, yet I continue to flail helplessly in the wind.... just like everything else.... RL is so stressful right now that breaking points have been passed several times now, and I fear I am left with only a "nuclear option"... so I have been trying to find some small relaxation through gaming... but it seems that games are as difficult as RL... and nearly as frustrating....

    Sometimes I miss the days where drunken blackout sprees were a thing.... LOL


    I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your life gets better. I'd say something like have you considered therapy, but... i don't know, it feels rude. Still, you should try that before any particularly devastating "nuclear options". I can't promise life gets easier though.

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    shapjul
    shapjul
    Posts: 48

    12/17/2015
    When is one too old to be a Young Turk? I'm a POSI but of such bountiful ignorance I feel I can also be a Young Turk. Beyond that, I am erratic by nature. One day I favor the orphans, the next the widow. (Never the constables.) Perhaps I do not know enough yet to pledge my allegiance in any serious way. I have so much to learn--but then don't we all?

    In any event, I will provide help when I can and take help when I can get it. Perhaps I could be middle-aged Turk? (a whole new club?)

    Hepzibah Gordon

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hepzibah~Gordon~
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    12/17/2015
    @Hepzibah: everyone is welcome in the Young Turks, however there is another group devoted to early PoSI concerns, the Janissary Guard. But many of us participate in both, so feel free to hang out with either or both.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 12/17/2015

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    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    navchaa
    navchaa
    Posts: 540

    12/17/2015
    Ah... Charlotte, you are hilarious! No offence taken at all (especially since I think it's still not possible to directly transfer echoes between players)!

    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    EEEEKKK! EEK! Sorry, sorry, sorry! I should have worded that much better - Meant that you were very welcome in the Janissary Guard no matter your PoSI status! (or when it occurred) As is everyone! I have absolutely no designs on anyone's hard earned Echoes slap forehead



    And John Savage - this game can be terribly frustrating at the beginning. I know I was terribly lost and on the verge of giving up. Once I realised that some parts of the game are simply not to be touched until I have plenty of a certain resource or level, things became a lot more fun. For me, the grindy bits of the game are especially useful when RL is annoying - at least if I'm distracted, I won't misclick because it's old material, and at least at the end of a bunch of actions, I will have a stack of materials in my inventory. Can't say the same for RL! And - I really hope things go better for you IRL. Having had a small taste before, legal options are no fun at all.

    John Savage wrote:
    I guess I am mostly frustrated that this game seems SO easy for everyone else, yet I continue to flail helplessly in the wind.... just like everything else.... RL is so stressful right now that breaking points have been passed several times now, and I fear I am left with only a "nuclear option"... so I have been trying to find some small relaxation through gaming... but it seems that games are as difficult as RL... and nearly as frustrating....

    Sometimes I miss the days where drunken blackout sprees were a thing.... LOL


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    Paramount Presence (London's Marrow 2, London's Nerves 2, London’s Sinew 3, London’s Blood 3) and mercenary Notary

    Married to Myrto :: Exchanging Surprise Packages with anyone interested :: Exchanging cat boxes with Kitty Rambunctious

    http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/navchaa
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    Boofny
    Boofny
    Posts: 2

    12/12/2015
    I'm a new player requesting entrance to this helpful circle of friends. My profile is in my signature. Thank you! smile

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/14/2015
    Màiread wrote:
    Raising SotC up to 10 is a b____r, requiring either a fate locked opp card or a lot of expense.

    I would say this is a more accurate summary of what raising SotC to 10 is. It'll be a long time and/or lot of effort no matter how you go about it. The difference is just how much so.

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    lady ciel
    lady ciel
    Posts: 2545

    12/9/2015
    For both I would say don't start your own department. Stay as a guest lecturer. You can get SotC at the end of term by gambling at the Cricket match, if you fail you lose some connections. Getting kicked out of he University happens after you have set up your own department and investigated a murder. Of course you don't have to investigate until you are ready to move on - either to do things out at Zee or tobuy the fate-locked Flute Street.

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    ciel

    Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.

    No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.

    storynexus name - reveurciel
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/12/2015
    A word of advice to any new players- hold onto the book of hidden bodies.
    They sell for 6 echoes, but they cost... 60 echoes in resources to make, and the only sources besides that is the tournament of roses and a certain rare success on "go hunting for caches.", which is a card. You'll need at least 5 if you want every item POSI status has to offer, and 2 if you just want to go on a voyage of discovery. (assuming you choose the young stags club for your club and the way using other items as well as books of hidden bodies to buy it.) Still, you'll reget selling it later, so hold onto it for now. At most, you'll only need 10, but it's pretty unlikely you'll get many from other sources, so... hold onto it.
    edited by Grenem on 12/12/2015

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    Atnaja
    Atnaja
    Posts: 23

    1/9/2016
    Hello there!

    After stumbling trough Fallen London on my own for some days, I'd love making some contacts and joining your club smile.

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/31/2015
    Adolferch wrote:
    Hi, I'm new here and a little help would be much appreciated.

    A batch of coins have been sent your ways. spend them wisely and well- or hold onto them, but i'd spend them.

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    Viergesicht
    Viergesicht
    Posts: 4

    1/10/2016
    Greetings,

    I would love to be included in this fine club of yours! The Neath isn't kind to the lonely.

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    A woman of strange tongues. A good friend and a formidable enemy.
    Also someone who is really just stumbling through this weird and wonderful city, trying hard to be subtle, mysterious and charming and failing with grandeur. She misses the taste of apple pie.

    Not to sound needy, but I'm up to anything. Let's do stuff together!

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/viergesicht
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    Viergesicht
    Viergesicht
    Posts: 4

    1/10/2016
    ehm. i should probably add this: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Viergesicht

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    A woman of strange tongues. A good friend and a formidable enemy.
    Also someone who is really just stumbling through this weird and wonderful city, trying hard to be subtle, mysterious and charming and failing with grandeur. She misses the taste of apple pie.

    Not to sound needy, but I'm up to anything. Let's do stuff together!

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/viergesicht
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/4/2016
    Well, once you unlock the Hall, you'll have an opportunity to grab a few extra points of Shadowy. There are things in the Hall that use Persuasive rather than Shadowy: Educating Lyme, e.g. The checks are fairly high, though. With 180 adjusted persuasive, I barely make some of the checks @100%, with 150 adjusted Shadowy, the checks are in the 80-90% range.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Guest

    1/4/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    Well, once you unlock the Hall, you'll have an opportunity to grab a few extra points of Shadowy. There are things in the Hall that use Persuasive rather than Shadowy: Educating Lyme, e.g. The checks are fairly high, though. With 180 adjusted persuasive, I barely make some of the checks @100%, with 150 adjusted Shadowy, the checks are in the 80-90% range.

    -- Mal

    Ahh, thanks very much. I'll unlock it and have a look around. I'm enjoying my relaxing grinds these days; just having a day off from Unlimited Correspondence Symphonies at the moment.
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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    12/22/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    navchaa wrote:
    Yes, you do get the rats back. In fact you can avoid paying the hefty entry fee upfront by going in on a day pass (or two!) and progressing enough to talk to the Tiger Keeper and do business with it. You'll get 7000 rats for that, and can trade it in for permanent access.
    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    The rats can be useful for entry into the Labyrinth of Tigers (which, I think, gives them back at some point later. =P). Also, that idiot plant consumes lots of rats... Sestina has a modest stockpile of 6k lying around for its nutritional needs.

    You can get a free, permanent entry to the Labrynth by finishing the Black Ribbon duels, then helping Mr. Inch capture monsters. Save your rats for other needs.
    edited by th8827 on 12/21/2015


    I did just that...... also got an insane amount of rats from the Tiger Keeper...

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    If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage

    Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    12/28/2015
    Dicing with devils, clearly.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Adolferch
    Adolferch
    Posts: 5

    12/30/2015
    Hi, I'm new here and a little help would be much appreciated.

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/24/2016
    Congratulations, Sestina! Time to concentrate on your other characters, perhaps.
    I just had occasion to steal the Blue Stone from Mr Vance (to see what would happen). Has it any use, or is it simply another 12.50 free cash like the Picaresque Tales?

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    1/17/2016
    After grinding Bullbone Island all day today, I finally got a Bifurcated Owl. I named him Pidwidgeon.

    I'll need to grind through the Labrynth of Tigers five more times, and recapture the four base monsters again. I'll probably need more Heals as soon as my actions recover enough to injure myself again.


    I will also need Scandal, after breeding my Lion, so I'd be happy to take anyone's Scandal. Send me Scandal invites, and I'll accept them when I'm ready.


    EDIT: I bred my Lion, so it is time for me to hunt for a new one. Time for me to do something Scandalous. E


    DIT: I have enough heals now.


  • edited by th8827 on 1/19/2016

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/22/2016
    Running 5 characters should be a challenge, but at least they'll never want for social exchanges.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    1/24/2016
    Esteban Delgado wrote:
    This is very odd. I failed a Shadowy Check for a Theft of Particular Character at the Bazaar, but got the Permit anyway. It just lowered my Casing from 11 to 5. Is this usual? I should think I'd be running for my life from the peelers right now.


    Failure either rewards less loot, or reduces casing more, since you prepared pretty well either way. You did enough research that you're not going to get caught for trivial crimes like these.

    Kind of like if you set your ship to sail from the port. getting it out of the port is pretty simple, and there isn't any ways that you, personally, have enough control to sink it in the docks (at least, if you don't have a ship that's, honestly, closer to a particularly boyant hunk of rock, but there aren't any of those in fallen london- permits are too expensive for it to be worth bothering with.), so you can't fail to make it out of port on that action. However, you can fail to get zee-stories from the success that way, because you're too busy keeping track of everything to remember it later for storytelling- or perhaps because the sailors had to do all the work, dirty or clean.
    edited by Grenem on 1/25/2016

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    Guest

    12/20/2015
    Hullo my excellent friends! Thank you so much for your advice earlier on; I'm going to be spending a long and wonderful time in Court. For that reason, I'm now looking to grind Persuasive in order to make the Inspired... challenges more manageable, so if anybody would like a sip of coffee at Caligula's or even a juicy private supper please do not hesitate . . .

    EDIT: My endless thanks to all so far who have spent time with me !! I would be responding in-game, but for the action cost of re-entering court ... :p
    edited by Corprustie on 12/20/2015
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    jabko
    jabko
    Posts: 1

    1/13/2016
    Greetings,
    i am a fresh PoSI and i am willing to help to anyone with menaces.

    Many thanks to Mal for organizing this club.

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/12/2016
    Who needs a reason to acquire wine?

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Guest

    1/12/2016
    Fantastic replies as always from this community. In regards to Viergesicht's Greyfields 1882 question, that is often only done by new or low-level players for two reasons:
    1) Opening the Shuttered palace
    2) A Sackmas card requirement.




    I'm guessing you would be doing this for option 1's Shuttered Palace, as two bottles of that specific wine for option 2's Sackmas is obtainable best through purchase.
    However, if it's for another reason, let us know and we might be able to direct you to that storyette's best working solution.
    If you need a few immediately however, Tell a politically dangerous joke or Tell a risqué joke both work. The same is true for The rookery is a distraction. The watch is going somewhere else. if all your stats are below 21 Total and you draw this.



    if you are trying to unlock the Shuttered Palace, that place only becomes viable when you have Persuasive at 75+. Even if you had the components right now, you'd not be ready for the options anyway. What I would recommend for unlocking that instead of spending many turns when possibly not prepared, is to do the Name Signed with a Flourish tasks, until you are Invited to the Shuttered Palace for free. Not only does this save components, it makes you have the appropriate stats when ready to advance to that phase of the Name attribute quest. By then, you will have the skill checks, access and favours redeemable for many 1882 bottles at that location for no additional cost.




    But if you need to know all known 1882 acquisitions, here is the page listing all known current and past sources. Many you will not be ready to use yet most likely besides Seducing the Honey-Sipping Heires in this Realm/Take her to a tavern (and if doing the Name Signed with a Flourish quest anyways, it will naturally happen,) Accept the Invitation, Mixing with the toffs card if Persuasive is <27, Go all out on the Shroom Hopping card, Unraveling Arson's card option, Informing the Baronet's family in Going gentle conflict card, and this once your Persuasive is 64+ total (Alas, Go Mudlarking offers 1879, not 1882.) It's likely you will need to buy small amounts and should look into short-term minor echo Acquisition for its 4 pence per bottle cost if for some reason you can't get it through random card draws that happen when your stats are 50 modified or the previous link when your stats are 64+ modified. By then, the Shuttered palace unlocked and University Unlocked will have the listed options in the sources link I gave.


    Technically if you went to new Newgate, found the repentant Forger and bought the Rooftop Shack lodgings, you can build up his value for Talk to a friend of a friend when drawn, but that will take quite a long time.


    if any of you have any other specific questions about some goal, feel free to ask any of us who went through it.
    edited by the truthseeker on 1/12/2016
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    Seschwa
    Seschwa
    Posts: 1

    1/26/2016
    I'm a "new" player as well, been enjoying Fallen London for some time now.. thought I'd pop into the forums and promote my profile here - available for all social interactions. I don't care in aprticular.

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    Harlocke
    Harlocke
    Posts: 506

    1/27/2016
    Hello, I'm new to Fallen London. I'd love to interact and team up with other people, both new and old.

    I'm also still a bit unsure of what I should be doing next, and will gladly take any wisdom more experienced folk have to offer.
    edited by Harlocke on 1/27/2016

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    I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author.

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    1/27/2016
    Harlocke wrote:

    I'm also still a bit unsure of what I should be doing next, and will gladly take any wisdom more experienced folk have to offer.

    I would be happy to give you wisdom, but... where are you currently? Your journal is empty, so I can't really gauge what you have done so far.


    For some general advice, each of the four main areas, Ladybone Road, Watchmaker Hill, Spite, and Veilgarden, has a storyline with "Making your Name" in the title. It has a bronze border. They are generally a good guide for what you should be working on in the area. Finishing each stage awards useful items, and a lot of stat boosts. In addition, once you reach certain stages of those stories, they will unlock new areas for free, saving you the cost that you would have to pay by unlocking them through your lodging.


    In addition, if you have not chosen one already, there are four Ambitions that you can follow. You can only pick one, so choose carefully. Ambitions are large storylines that span your entire time in Fallen London from your lowly starting point fresh out of New Newgate to your lofty time as a top level POSI. They are all interesting, and give extra insight into characters that you would not normally interact with on a personal level.


    Speaking of POSI, in order to become a Person of Some Interest, you will need to get all four of your main stats to 100, so don't neglect any of them. They all have interesting stories, and can be rewarding in many ways. It's no rush, though. Just something to keep in mind.


    The main thing to remember is to have fun.



  • edited by th8827 on 1/27/2016

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    1/27/2016
    Harlocke wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    Harlocke wrote:

    I'm also still a bit unsure of what I should be doing next, and will gladly take any wisdom more experienced folk have to offer.

    I would be happy to give you wisdom, but... where are you currently? Your journal is empty, so I can't really gauge what you have done so far.


    I've been dabbling in all the starting sections of the city, but spent a lot of time progressing persuasion at veilgarden which is in the 70s, versus all my other stats which are still in the 30s/40s. I'm at the palace now, composing works for the empress. The only new areas I've unlocked so far are the palace and the flit. I've also been trying to progress the opportunity card storylets as much as possible. Not quite sure what my next move should be.

    Is there any reason to pick one ambition over another, other than liking the flavor of it?

    Sure. Heart's desire is unnatturally popular, and they're (most likely) not going to complete simultaniously. in addition, light fingers leaves open the option to change your mind later- (but before you get any payout, so it's not the absolute best idea) - but it's also one update behind the others.

    bag a legend is a good source of black wings absinthe.

    The least personally awesome ambition, in my opinion, is heart's desire. you're basically being an overworked arranger of a complex gambling night, and trying to convince everyone to come. and then you'll need to get the cards, next update.

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/27/2016
    I like Persuasion a lot, it is good for making money, especially after you get your stat to 167 with equipment. But there are other good opportunities to make money. Especially after you become a PoSI.
    As advised, your best plan is to keep following the four Making Your Name lines, as they will buff your stats and provide you with nice loot on the way. As a Persuasive character, don't overlook writing short stories, you can get a good EPA (echoes per action, the standard rating of efficiency) for your level with them, especially if you can get 50 quality stories.
    As for Ambition, take whatever you like. I haven't found any of them really hit the spot, so you could ignore them for present, they are not important except for story anyway.

    Consider getting patrons to train your stats. You could have one per stat, or just for some. They require a willing teacher and a Free Evening, and generally will boost your stat by at least a point every session, so long as it is <= 100.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 1/27/2016

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Màiread
    Màiread
    Posts: 385

    1/27/2016
    The ambitions all give different but equally interesting rewards (both in items and lore). They can be quite different in tone - Light Fingers is really interesting, but veers rapidly into disturbing territory/horror, so if you're squeamish it may not be wise (you will get a free ambition reset item fairly late on though, so you can back out if it's too much). Bag a legend is much jollier, with a general air of 'derring do'. Heart's desire has some great writing, and tells you quite a bit about some major characters in the game. I've not played much of Nemesis - it has some fun stuff at the start, and tonally it's much what you'd expect from a revenge plot. Whatever path you choose will let you learn some stuff about the Masters, the world, and a few other bits and bobs besides.

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    Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |

    Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.

    I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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    lady ciel
    lady ciel
    Posts: 2545

    1/27/2016
    Harlocke wrote:
    Do you get a chance to play a different ambition after you finish one? I'd like to read all the stories eventually, even if it takes a long time.




    None of the Ambitions are complete yet. There is at least one more up-date needed to get to the end of the story as Light Fingers has two more up-dates to go.

    So we don't know if we will get to play another Ambition for free when the time comes. At the moment it costs real life money to change your Ambition (unless you are playing Light Fingers which gives you the item needed to do so at a certain stage of the story).


    That is one of the reasons people have alts ... to read all the stories by taking different paths through Fallen London.

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    ciel

    Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.

    No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.

    storynexus name - reveurciel
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    Reynard Vulpini
    Reynard Vulpini
    Posts: 7

    1/27/2016
    I've been playing for a month or so, but I'd like to get into the more social aspect of Fallen London. Profile is here

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    2/5/2016
    @Parelle: I know, two Matriarchs is ridiculous. The RNG giveth, the RNG taketh away. Sometimes it giveth pretty good.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    NiteBrite
    NiteBrite
    Posts: 1014

    11/23/2015
    Fixed, thanks for the reminder dov. My memory isn't so good as it used to be, why just the other day I got confused and told someone a mash-up tale of the Secular Missionary and the Last Constable that went on a wild ride of romance and revolutionary exploration while also fighting crime. I felt quite silly when someone reminded me that they were two separate individuals haha oops.

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/23/2015
    Thank-you both! Moon League sounds a lot more civil. Wished I'd realised it was that easy to move into.

    - I'm very sorry to read about your ring Sestina, if I ever get one you or Fei Xue would be most welcome to steal it.
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/23/2015
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/23/2015

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/24/2015
    A tip for anyone who just got Scholar of the Correspondence. You can level it up to 3 easily at the Carnival. I'll leave it to you to find out where. It costs Tickets, though.

    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    we're really not scary at all

    We're not?




  • edited by th8827 on 11/24/2015

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    lady ciel
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    Posts: 2545

    11/23/2015
    The Horoscope cards do only turn up at the Carnival.

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    No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    11/23/2015
    You can reset your Horoscope for 3 Fate.

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    suinicide
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    Posts: 2403

    11/23/2015
    Yes, you need to pay fate to change your horoscope, though it's quite a bit less than changing a destiny.

    Since this seems to be a popular place for questions, is there still a way to raise ruthless and magnanimous to twelve? I would like to experiment with certain knife and candle items. Also I have recently bought the fate locked part of Mr. Wine's revels, and nothing has happened for several days. Is there a storylet or something, or am I just unlucky?
    edited by suinicide on 11/24/2015

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    Sara Hysaro
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    11/22/2015
    Yes, Iron League hunts are pretty random. I'd recommend the Moon League over them if you aren't trying to get Prize Tokens from other players (you can do that in the Moon League too, but it's slower).

    The Umpire storyline is strictly in your own game, however. No need for PvP - you're just taking care of some things for Mr Iron. The storyline itself predates at least this version of Knife and Candle.

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    Ridagoth
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    11/22/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    EDIT2: And a clutch victory at the Expedition. I was at 9 Rival Progress and 29 Archaeology Progress, and a hinder option appeared. I failed with a second chance, and kept failing until I ran out of Second chances... then I succeeded!

    You have no idea how much I can relate to that. Actually, you will get an idea, because I shall talk about! It's been a long time so the details will be hazy, but I went at it with around 60 Supplies. I kept seeing so many failures for my actions, I suppose I was risking a buccaneering rush strategy. Anyway, I don't remember if I ever hindered a rival, but I distinctly recall that when I finally hit 30 Archaeologist's Progress to get the finish option, I also hit 10 Rivals' Progress too. So what happens is that all the options to get Archaeologist's Progress gets locked until you confront them, but since I hit 30 Progress on the same result, I was able to ignore the confrontation to finish the expedition because that was unlocked too. That's limited however to a few expeditions like Tomb of the Seven, since at least two other ones will prevent completion if Rivals' Progress is at 10 and you have to confront them first, according to the wiki and personal experience.

    To slightly offer advice on expeditions, it's a good idea to overstock in supplies in case of a bad run with building Archaeologist's Progress, and the max is 100 supplies. I don't recommend the buccaneering approach too often due to the high watchful needs when you have low watchful, but a bold approach should suffice.

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    Gillsing
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    Posts: 1203

    11/22/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    To clarify: I just pulled the "Implausable Pennance" card, which allows one to change (or assume) form or to "attack another player." So, I'm guessing attack opportunities are tied to cards, but you don't get to choose whom to attack.

    -- Mal

    You get to choose who to attack, but you're restricted to whichever contacts you have that are eligible to be attacked in the Iron league.
    edited by Gillsing on 11/22/2015
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    Grenem
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    11/23/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    In that case, the attacks are random? Or does someone have to initiate it?

    someone initiates it. the outcome is mostly random- it runs on the same mechanics as any other social action with random weighted outcomes- so attacker has an edge in anything other than a perfectly even match. (by which i mean the attacker has better odds than the defender would in that position. attacking someone with baroque when your baroque is 60 and theirs is 200 will still usually result in defeat. the difference is now you'll be less likely to lose then if they attack you. so when the attacker is inferior, they're less disadvantaged and when the attacker is superior they get a bigger advantage.)

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    lady ciel
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    11/23/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    The first question would be, then, how does one advance to the Moon League?

    -- Mal



    Go to Watchmakers Hill and visit the Gamekeepers Cottage. The option to change leagues and lots of other things are there.

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    Grenem
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    12/7/2015
    Kaigen wrote:
    John Savage wrote:
    Sooooo..... from what I can tell, the Primaeval Hint is strictly a "sell item." Or am I missing something? I could use the echoes, for sure!
    There are a couple of corner case uses for it, but if you aren't planing on making a Mystic Raven Advisor, it's probably safe to sell it for the echoes.

    And if you are... trade in your rat-of-glory for a skuttering squad anyways, then sell the hint. They're unquestionably superior to both advisors.

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    th8827
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    Posts: 823

    12/7/2015
    A helpful tip for my fellow Young Turks.

    Today, the Advent Calander gives a very useful item. Pick the middle choice for a wonderfully powerful companion.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/a/30913ghostofratmaspast

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    Sestina Valdis
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    Posts: 210

    12/1/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    Your humble obedient has ascended to the ranks of PoSI. I will still maintain the Presidency of this club, but it might be appropriate if someone not of that rank hold the office (the major duty of which is to welcome and instruct new members). Any volunteers? It will mean tending to a couple of social matters most days.

    -- Mal


    I don't mind, although I am more acquainted with PoSI matters than non-PoSI, especially after the new making-your-name updates... ._. But I can try.

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    Gemma Hawley
    Gemma Hawley
    Posts: 49

    12/8/2015
    Oh yes... 'Socialising'. *wrinkles nose* Carry on then!

    (Psst! I'm going to send you a kitty of your very own from my main. I cannot in any way guarantee it won't maim you, but that's cats for you.)

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    Sestina Valdis
    Sestina Valdis
    Posts: 210

    11/25/2015
    The Starveling Cat!
    The Starveling Cat!
    Thank you th,
    Your box contained that!

    <3 Fei Xue has been wanting one.
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/25/2015

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/25/2015
    For all Young Turks, here is a handy-dandy little tool by FL's rahv7 that shows you in a glance what stuff can be converted to what other stuff, and how many actions it will take. Great if you want to know how many Cryptic Clues you need to create Antique Mysteries, and how to go about it. http://community.failbettergames.com/messages.aspx?topicid=20804&messageid=118651#post

    Just select the item you want to end up with and click "Check options," and viola (which is a musical instrument). Beats all to hell and back clicking on stuff in inventory to find out what you can do with it.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/25/2015

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/21/2015
    Sent a couple to you th8827, and one for Mal as he's so keen.

    - Whilst loitering earlier I found this topic in the Salons -in which the marvelous Sara Hysaro gives a link to some old, but still fully functional access codes - got a small Starbucks full of dark drop coffee, 3 trailing the affluent photographer and some other goodies. The tumbler blog they're on is fantastic for lore as well-
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/21/2015

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    Sara Hysaro
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    11/21/2015
    The nice thing about Knife and Candle is that you can pick a form and then drop it shortly afterwards. Choosing a form will trigger the delivery of Prize Tokens once a month, which you can exchange for Brass Rings and/or Searing Enigmas. You don't need to keep a form to get the Prize Token deliveries, so it's effectively free things without needing to participate in actual PvP.
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    edited by Sara Hysaro on 11/21/2015

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    Kaigen
    Kaigen
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    11/21/2015
    The nice thing about K&C relative to other MMO PvP systems is that failure isn't punitive and it doesn't require a big investment. Plus, whether you win or lose, you can still walk away with a Mourning Candle or some Dangerous training and Hard-Earned Lessons.

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    "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible."
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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    11/21/2015
    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    John Savage wrote:
    I am still waiting for a K&C card.... been days.... FINALLY found a way to take a form... still waiting for more actions... LOL

    Still trying to figure out the FQ thing.... I got to start it... but now have a few supplies and no clue how to get back in.... shrug I guess I'll find a way....

    No luck with the Regretful Solider yet either... so my poor character is still kind of scattered... which is fine, since it was the plan from the beginning.


    FQ: Are you trying to get back into your expedition? I think there's options if you go to the Messages tab.


    I drew the Regretful Soldier card twice and failed to make his acquaintance both times...... Don't worry, just keep at it! It took my main awhile, but she finally got it.


    [spoiler]I didn't know choosing the Dangerous option wouldn't allow one to befriend him. =( Thought he would grudgingly agree to a sort of rivalry/friendship after I defeated him in combat, action movie style. But no. I think only the Persuasive action works to start an Acquaintance.[/spoiler]


    Yeah.... and the Persuasive is where I have failed twice now.... D'oh!

    I'll check around some more for the FQ thing.... thanks!

    EDIT: Oh, I just need the Street Sign.... failed to steal one.... guess I can buy one though if necessary
    edited by John Savage on 11/21/2015

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/21/2015
    Thanks for the codes.

    I am a bit intimidated by the prospect of PvP, though. However, I do need about 22 more Mourning Candles to trade for a Patent Scrutinizer to continue my Heart's Desire, so... here goes nothing. Let's hope that I don't die a painfully horrible death.

    Spoiler for possible cheapness.
    [spoiler]In other news, I accidentally found out that I can do Area Diving while working on the Master Thief casing... The Persuasive check in Area Diving gives you 2 casing for 1 action, and the Heist check gives you 6 casing for 3 actions. It is the same amount of actions for the same amount of Casing, but much easier... The higher end checks give you more for your investment if you succeed, but those Shadowy checks have higher requirements. If you are willing to put in the time, it may be an easy path to Master Thief for low Shadowy players? (until it is patched)[/spoiler]

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    Bandrid
    Bandrid
    Posts: 1

    11/17/2015
    Hello! I'm fairly new to FL (and forums), so I thought I'd post here. Feel free to throw invites for social actions at me!

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/17/2015
    I got one of those red cards and it gaveme a lot more CP of Nightmare than I expected, so I'm insane now.

    I'll enjoy my time at the Mirror Marches, and see you in reality in the future.

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/19/2015
    I could be wrong but I think its a case of rinse and repeat until you get it up to 3. At least that is how building the master thief trait is working in the Flit. Archaeology is horribly expensive. You'll also need to get A Name In Seven Secret Alphabets up to 5 (by doing investigations in Ladybones Road) to unlock the Watchful making your name expedition in the Forgotten Quarter.


    - Ah snipered by Gemma :-)
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/19/2015

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    malthaussen
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    Posts: 1060

    11/19/2015
    I got an eyeless skull when I did the Deep Blue, which is a sort of mixed blessing. I didn't have any connection to Revolutionaries when I got it, and quite forgot I could build it up at the Carnival to sell the skull for 62.50. I didn't want to sell it in the Bazaar, so I ended up giving it away. Easy come, easy go.

    -- Mal

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    Andrew Astherson
    Andrew Astherson
    Posts: 118

    10/21/2015
    Estelle Knoht wrote:
    A more prominent link to the forums could help?


    The girl is right. One cannot simply walk into forums, even if a person is very interested in finding them.
    I myself discovered your forum via announcement link planted above message tabs. So, why not to help people to find a way here, eh ?

    As for the idea mentioned in this topic: I think that it sounds neat.
    Almost a pity that I'm not new to this game. Almost...
    edited by Andrew Astherson on 10/21/2015

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    Clement "don't you call me Clem!" Mustela - merry and licentious to a stupid degree Irishman-detective
    > My lads appearances ; Astherson's short backstory

    > Seeking for RP partner(s), are you ? This thread might be the right place.
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    Hobnail
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    Posts: 179

    10/21/2015
    RED!

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/15/2015
    Thank-you Gonen and Grenem, that's a big help. - My Time The Healer is Saturday at 0800 Zulu.
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/16/2015

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    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    Unlogic
    Unlogic
    Posts: 34

    11/10/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    Huh. I read elsewhere that it was hard getting back in.


    It used to be. That was one of the more welcome changes from the Making Your Name updates.

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/14/2015
    I have somehow collected 8447 Nevercold Brass Slivers without even trying (the Devils keep throwing those at me like it is going out of style), and I can't find a use for them... I don't like selling stuff, so... am I missing some sort of storylet that may have a use for these things? Maybe converting up to something useful?


    In other news, I am 13 CP away from reaching 100 levels (with gear) of Persuasive!
    edited by th8827 on 11/14/2015

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    Notsab
    Notsab
    Posts: 11

    10/22/2015
    What a wonderful idea ! I would be deeply pleased to join your club and collaborate in any adventure you would enroll me in !

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    navchaa
    navchaa
    Posts: 540

    10/23/2015
    I'm a POSI, but I'm very happy to help newbies. Plus, I do loiter suspiciously! smile

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    Married to Myrto :: Exchanging Surprise Packages with anyone interested :: Exchanging cat boxes with Kitty Rambunctious

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    maleclypse
    maleclypse
    Posts: 256

    10/23/2015
    A wonderful idea. Please include me.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maleclypse

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    10/23/2015
    I'm not new, but I'll help anyone who wants assistance. the only action i won't do is honest "seeking the affluent photographer" requests, since once you're done with the story, Betrayals are more effective for everyone involved. I get a bat- (estimated value: 40 pence replacement cost) instead of a point of progress in the story (estimated value: 0 pence). You get two points of progress instead of one, (estimated profit: 2x initial value).

    As such, when sending affluent photographer requests, betrayals are maximally effective, assuming only you're moving through the story, and i'm done.
    edited by Grenem on 10/23/2015

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    lacco36
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    10/25/2015
    As a newcomer, I am in. Since I am mostly now exploring the basics, I am in for anything, however, would prefer cooperation and friendly contacts. Send me a card and I will be pleased to respond smile

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    absimiliard
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    Posts: 759

    2/11/2016
    *grins at Erasmus' words*

    Well said Delicious Friend, well said indeed.

    Who doesn't love a nice, steamy, stew of hard stalks and moist bodies?

    *with a flash of scandalous Red Stocking and a outrageously modish hat Absimiliard is off, it suddenly occurs to you why most of Fallen London regards her . ... errr, him .. . them, yes them as Outrageously scandalous. Later stories of them dancing with Sinning Jenny in the chorus-line at the Circus merely confirm your opinion*

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    Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend.
    Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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    malthaussen
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    Posts: 1060

    2/19/2016
    @Remedan: It shouldn't be something you can do accidentally, especially now that they have clarified the stories. Basically, you need to romance someone (which you can only do if Fascinating is high enough) and have written enough books/plays/songs to get your Reputation to 4. Then you will be asked by the flunky to write a final work; you may refuse and your Reputation will drop, or succeed and they'll kick you out (which is kind of counter-intuitive, but it makes sense in the story). Since I'm uninterested in romances, I haven't even raised my Fascinating to the level of starting one, so whenever my Reputation reaches 4 it automatically reverts to 3.

    -- Mal

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    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Morkan Kassington
    Morkan Kassington
    Posts: 261

    2/12/2016
    Cheers to you, Miss Takuza, for your thoughtful gift!

    As a new immigrant who has just arrived in the nick of time for the festival, is it my best option to just focus on the main story or to raise stats for the festival? I notice many of the options are somewhat risky for me.

    Additionally, I read that I have opportunity to solicit adoring companions based on my Masquing. Any recommendations?

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    (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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    Màiread
    Màiread
    Posts: 385

    2/8/2016
    If you've started breeding beasts in the labyrinth of tigers and have a tincture of vigour on hand you can meet a certain splendid animal. Otherwise there's nothing in particular to gain, I think?

    --
    Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake.

    Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |

    Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.

    I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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    Màiread
    Màiread
    Posts: 385

    2/8/2016
    I don't partake of the game of stabbing myself, so I'm afraid I can't really help you there.

    A criminal record is bad, because as your level increases being sent to prison becomes much more costly. At higher levels of criminality you will lose notability (and I think connections?) in addition to your usual sojourn in the tanty.

    The tomb-colonies aren't really bad; it takes up a lot of actions to get out, and you can wind up harming your austere and hedonist quirks, but that's only really a problem if they're more than 10.

    --
    Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake.

    Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |

    Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.

    I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/12/2016
    xKiv wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    Well... I would like the letter, but I don't have the resources to get Organizing a Wedding to that point. Really, I want Organizing 700, for the letter, and to talk to a certain grumpy hooded figure. Maybe more, if any options give out unique or semi-unique rewards.


    I am afraid the game will reset your Organizing to half of whatever the target number for your venue is. Even if you go for a grand event (1000 organizing total), both participants will only have 500 organizing to spend (each). Neither will be able to get the letter - you absolutely have to make it the event of the year if you want the empress to notice.

    To make matters worse, it only gives 1000 organizing, which means you STILL miss out on some of the possibilities! it's like the entire setup was designed to make getting all the text impossible, even if you were hosting the biggest events out there!

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    Lethe
    Lethe
    Posts: 12

    3/26/2016
    What I'm pretty sure the Wiki meant is don't default to buying common items (secrets, rostygold, silk scraps) from the bazaar when they can be easily farmed elsewhere. Buying common items can get very expensive, quickly.

    For general equipment, however, the Bazaar is the best place to be.
    You seem to be well on your way to being well dressed. wink

    Check out the three card lodgings at the Bazaar if you'd like another card slot at some point.


    But the usual Menaces (and their commonly associated stats) are
    Nightmares (for Watchful)
    Scandal (for Persuasive)
    Wounds (for Dangerous)
    Suspicion (for Shadowy)

    When you find yourself failing other kinds of challenges, you'll find yourself building other kinds of Menaces.

    Dreaded is part of a different system (Called BDR for short -- Bizarre/Dreaded/Respectable), and everything from that system is good to have but don't worry about it for now. Influence is a harmless stat based on how many other players you're acquainted with. smile
    edited by midnightwalk on 3/26/2016

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    2/26/2016
    @Viergesicht: for a pre-PoSI player who cannot do Thefts of a Particular Character or some of the more lucrative tasks, writing short stories is a sure-fire moneymaker. Later on (much later, when you can get your Persuasive to 167), writing songs, plays, or symphonies at Court can also turn a nice Echo. Basically, at the lower levels, I'd say anything that can be created from other things is good to sell, as are moon pearls, brass, rostygold, and rats. You can sell rats in bulk for a small bonus in Watchmaker's Hill, and until you want to get married, you don't need any quantity of them. Lots of Rostygold will be useful after you achieve PoSI, and it is also used in 10s to buy drinks and such, so you should keep a bit on hand as walk-around money, but the rest you can use. As a rule, better to keep items as items unless you want to buy something: they can always be converted to Echoes, but the reverse is not true.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/24/2016
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    edited by Grenem on 2/26/2016

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    Road Scholar
    Road Scholar
    Posts: 1

    8/12/2018
    It does look quiet in this particular club, but I'd like to wave my banner as a relative newcomer to the Neath. I'm still learning the more social aspects of the place, but happy to engage in chess matches, a bit of loitering, etc.
    Nothing too strenuous or damaging, but a jolly good time is always welcome.

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    edited by Road Scholar on 8/12/2018
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    2/11/2016
    @Erasmus Widdershins: read the threads on the Feast of the Rose, which is going on right now. The Glass of Teeth is one of the presents one may exchange: it is considered good form to reciprocate gifts received.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    DerGreif
    DerGreif
    Posts: 21

    1/8/2019
    Pryno Belle wrote:
    Pryno. Just Pryno.

    It is a good idea to put your profile link in your signature. This allows anybody here to contact you easily.

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    After a long hiatus I am back and accept calling cards and invites to chess, orphanages (I am a Midnighter), Caligula's and the tournament of Lillies and other social interactions, but NOT the game of Knife and Candle.
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    lacco36
    lacco36
    Posts: 11

    9/17/2018
    Good evening.

    After a long break I return to the Neath.

    I will welcome any interaction before I depart again, this time somewhere... else. So, send calling cards. I prefer chess matches, but will accept any invitation.

    Good evening.

    --
    Lazlow: Gone NORTH. Grieved.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lazlow
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    Pryno Belle
    Pryno Belle
    Posts: 14

    1/6/2019
    Pryno. Just Pryno.

    --
    A sweet smile for urchins. A deceitful grin for everyone else.

    A forensic doctor, gone to the Neath to pursue a relationship with a zailor. He has gone East, but she remains, the heart full of ambition.
    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Pryno

    Available for social interactions, especially those that raise making waves.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/24/2016
    Alfred_Bloodwine wrote:
  • Awesome thanks for the coffee Grenem, can never get enough actions.
  • Im getting near the end of the Wax Face quest at your lodgings involving the Big Rat and would love some advice. Is it better to side with the rats for future reputation benefits (if caring about ratty affairs does give long term benefit) or does saving the big rat give you better outcomes? The cards he can let you draw ie with the cherries, is that temporary or from then on? Also the antique mystery option for the companion, is that cost effective? Any general thoughts would be amazing!


  • Im wanting to liquidate my money to buy a pewter tankard. I have a Trade Secret that I could cash in, If I did would it be better to sell off the enigma or the mysteries for the cash? (or is the TS much better used for a stat boost?) If I don't do that my main other abundant resource is Rostygold, I know that a lot is needed later but I currently have over 17500 pieces so hopefully can spare a bit. Also when I get the tankard (to farm supplies) what is the best repeatable source of glim at the 70-80 unbuffed stat range (+10 buffed)?

  • TS is best cashed in by trading it for mysteries and a searing enigma.

    Generally speaking, enigmas are either worthless, or always in short supply, depending on what you're doing. some rare content is only accessible with absurd numbers. seeking the name was hard, and took its toll on the enigmas. Or will be and will, depending. Forming an impossible theorem costs 49+# of failures. part of am[REDACTED] will require 77 enigmas, and return [REDACTED].

    Otherwise, there are very few uses, and enigmas are ludicrously common in comparison to most of the other 62.5 echo items. Meanwhile, antique mysteries will be used earlier on, 50 to buy the royal beth lodgings. but they'll also be useless sooner, and easier to gather.

    rostygold is always useful, but rarely in large numbers.

    EDIT: If you're not nuts about collectionism, helping the big rat is probably better. if you're not nuts about deck optimization, killing him may be better. if you don't care about either much, RP it. Both open up options, neither have that great potential. The easiest way to get a full rattus bandit cheif if you didn't get- or don't want to lose- the disgraced one is through this option. the fact that the bandit cheifs aren't exactly worth buying doesn't change that.

    The snuffer is not a good person though. some are. this one is not, and will not be.

    edited by Grenem on 2/24/2016
    edited by Grenem on 2/25/2016

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    Remedan
    Remedan
    Posts: 61

    2/26/2016
    Viergesicht wrote:
    [...] what i can sell to obtain this item. I have eschewed the bazaar so far, so I am truly clueless regarding which items can be sold without hesitation. i have, for example, written two short stories so far, both worth a fair amount of echoes. do I still need them? Can I barter them away like any true artist in need?

    You can sell your short stories without worry as you can always write more. Also, if you have lots of any of the lower tier items on here you can sell them or convert them into better ones. There's no reason to hoard an excessive amount.

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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/26/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    @Viergesicht: for a pre-PoSI player who cannot do Thefts of a Particular Character or some of the more lucrative tasks, writing short stories is a sure-fire moneymaker. Later on (much later, when you can get your Persuasive to 167), writing songs, plays, or symphonies at Court can also turn a nice Echo. Basically, at the lower levels, I'd say anything that can be created from other things is good to sell, as are moon pearls, brass, rostygold, and rats. You can sell rats in bulk for a small bonus in Watchmaker's Hill, and until you want to get married, you don't need any quantity of them. Lots of Rostygold will be useful after you achieve PoSI, and it is also used in 10s to buy drinks and such, so you should keep a bit on hand as walk-around money, but the rest you can use. As a rule, better to keep items as items unless you want to buy something: they can always be converted to Echoes, but the reverse is not true.

    -- Mal

    Well, it often is, innefficiently, true. Generally, that's the main reason to hold onto expensive items- for some of them, echoes will only make their aquisition simpler, and for some, it won't even make a difference. (For instance, the component parts of Tears, (7 airags), are either availible through a card, for 5 cellars of wine- but the card isn't exactly common, or through expeditions. You can't simply buy fourth city airag, much less bazaar's sorrow.)

    On the flip side, very few items are actually worth having at that point. the airag offers some interesting text, and helps with nomans, but generally, ambitions excluded, you won't need more than one of any 62.5 echo item per storylet, and some have as few as four storylets, or even less.
    edited by Grenem on 2/26/2016

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    3/8/2016
    PoSI has more options, yes, but also many more lucrative ones. Within London, most of the opportunities are open to Persons of Some Importance and Persons of Some Insignificance (as I like to call them), so the stat checks are the same regardless of PoSI status. The challenges are mostly scaled to area, not status. (Certain areas are only open to PoSI, such as Doubt Street and most overseas locales). I don't see a major disadvantage in becoming a PoSI as soon as one can, although it will have consequences in re some of the drugs you can use for menace management. Maintenance of Notability is nothing at lower levels, and one can have a highly satisfactory time playing as a PoSI while virtually ignoring Notability. The fact that PoSI status also opens up higher-tier jobs is another reason to contemplate achieving it as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Meradine Heidenreich
    Meradine Heidenreich
    Posts: 404

    3/26/2016
    On the issue of fate. The little bits of fate that come along in the game are good for either a fate storylet or for buying extra cards or extra actions. Think of them as something along the lines of the coffee you may already have received. So you can spend it if you feel there's something you want to try out, or absolutely must finish right now, or hang on to it. Your choice, and no difference either way.
    Don't do what I did and have your mouse slip or the page re-set (or click on the empty card deck and ignore the warning pop-up) and lose it!
    And by the way, don't let nightmares (or any of the other menaces) get too high. 5 is highish. If you go "home" or to the Refreshment Tent at the Carnival, you'll find ways of dealing with it, including asking others for help. Everyone does it all the time, so don't be shy.
    Meradine
    edited by Meradine Heidenreich on 3/26/2016

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    The Starveling kit
    Gobbled up the bit
    of cheese on my tray ..
    "O Weh!"

    No plant battles, please.
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    Parelle
    Parelle
    Posts: 1084

    3/26/2016
    There's also a helpful guide to gear available here:
    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic21483-a-list-of-bazzar-items-not-to-buy.aspx?Page=3#post126816
    edited by Parelle on 3/26/2016

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    pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    3/26/2016
    You should buy the cheap gear first, as a stockpile is always nice. generally, stat reduction is only a good idea if you want to make your stats grow faster at the price of complete incompetence, while stat boosting give artificial competence, letting you progress faster- just because it comes from your clothes doesn't make it any less real, though, just more temporary.

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    Wintermute101
    Wintermute101
    Posts: 23

    3/26/2016
    Thanks for the answers.

    So, as there were 10 Access codes (used them all, because, why not ^^), how often does FB release those?
    Every month?
    are those 10 the 10 from last year?

    Or are there many months without a new access code and then after 6-8 months you get 4 new access codes?
    Or does it work differntly?

    Also, another question i have, i've played 2 other Browsergames, but they are completly different from Fallen London.
    Well, perhaps not completly, they also have premium currency which you can buy, but less story and another game-quest-mechanic.
    BUT in that games it was possible to invite a friend (give them a special link to the games webiste) and when the friend registers and plays a while the one who invited the friend and sometimes the new player too get some advantage (premium currency, ingame currency, items whatever).
    So, my question is, is this also possible in Fallen London?
    Or are there no benefits from inviting friends in Fallen London, except that you can make them a contact and help another out with nightmares and so on?

    and another question: is it possible to trade between players?
    Can i send a friend a coffee mug and he send me one too?
    Or is that not possible?

    Thanks as always in advance for your answers.

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    3/26/2016
    There are various "invite a friend from the Surface" options mixed in throughout the game that lets you send invitations to people that you know. They all have minor rewards, both for you and the person joining. I have not used them, so I can't tell you which%20is the best one.

    As for trading, you can gift certain items using the Square of Lofty Words card, but you are limited to the options there. Most items can't be traded freely.
    edited by th8827 on 3/26/2016

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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    3/26/2016
    Wintermute101 wrote:
    Thanks for the answers.

    So, as there were 10 Access codes (used them all, because, why not ^^), how often does FB release those?
    Every month?
    are those 10 the 10 from last year?

    Or are there many months without a new access code and then after 6-8 months you get 4 new access codes?
    Or does it work differntly?

    Also, another question i have, i've played 2 other Browsergames, but they are completly different from Fallen London.
    Well, perhaps not completly, they also have premium currency which you can buy, but less story and another game-quest-mechanic.
    BUT in that games it was possible to invite a friend (give them a special link to the games webiste) and when the friend registers and plays a while the one who invited the friend and sometimes the new player too get some advantage (premium currency, ingame currency, items whatever).
    So, my question is, is this also possible in Fallen London?
    Or are there no benefits from inviting friends in Fallen London, except that you can make them a contact and help another out with nightmares and so on?

    and another question: is it possible to trade between players?
    Can i send a friend a coffee mug and he send me one too?
    Or is that not possible?

    Thanks as always in advance for your answers.


    I'm pretty sure it's random

    Well, there are some actions where you can invite a player to Fallen London through their email but it's not really worth it most of the times, the most notable ways to invite them like this are probably through the unfinished bussiness options.

    You can't trade items.

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    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    th8827
    Posts: 823

    3/26/2016
    Unfinished Business options appear in Spite (Shadowy), Watchmaker Hill (Dangerous), Ladybone Road (Watchful), and Veilgarden (Persuasive) once the relavent stat reaches 70. Once you have the stats, they are always open.


    As for the Access code release schedule, they are released when they are released. I have not noticed any pattern to them (besides holiday codes). Some are limited time only, like the annual 25 Christmas Advent Calendar codes, others are released when they want to do a special event on Twitter. Others are released whenever they feel like it. Some expire quickly, and others have long expiration dates, depending on the content of the links. The link to the code list that I provided earlier is usually updated to stay accurate.
    edited by th8827 on 3/26/2016

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    Raidmaxxx
    Raidmaxxx
    Posts: 2

    4/2/2016
    Sign me up for this, i am new and will welcome any and all help. I will also help as much as i can. Please let me know what i can do to get started.

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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2403

    4/26/2016
    I am always accepting nightmares. (Out of London right now, but feel free to send me some when I get back.)

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    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    Lady K.
    Lady K.
    Posts: 10

    5/9/2016
    I admit, I added a bunch of you in this thread without introducing myself because shyness got the best of me. I hope you all don't mind.

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    They say she dreams of thunder, with skies in her eyes.
    Her name might not be her own, but her story is here
    Official newcomer looking for friends, calling cards, patrons, lovers, & really anything! I respond In Character as the amnesiac Lady K.
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    Morel
    Morel
    Posts: 2

    5/9/2016
    I have recently found myself here in Fallen London with very little idea of how, where, or when I came to be here... Deciding to make the most of this opportunity to explore the Fungi of this previously unknown biome, I look for any and all assistance in my Mycological pursuits. And, indeed, friends would be lovely.

    Coffee, chess, dinner (on evenings that I am not knee-deep in training with my most patient and watchful Patron), cats, other oddities so far undiscovered, I am eager to discover all manner of curiosities...

    I hope I may be of assistance to other Young Turks as we venture out into the Neath!

    Morel

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Morel

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    woofusaurus
    woofusaurus
    Posts: 1

    5/9/2016
    To my dear unmet friends,

    I have only recently arrived in Fallen London - although I sometimes dream I have spent a little time here years ago - and despite already being an exceptional friend of the Bazaar, I have very few human friends.

    I find myself repeatedly plagued by nightmares (and other menaces) and this has driven me to seek mutually beneficial relationships with kind strangers for the sake of my sanity. Please, if you can spare an afternoon to listen to my damnable dreams, I shall be eternally in your debt.

    I look forward to meeting you at your earliest convenience,
    Ellzabeth

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    SarahTheEntwife
    SarahTheEntwife
    Posts: 50

    5/12/2016
    I am not entirely a newcomer, but have not set foot on the streets of London itself in quite some time, and so am beginning anew. I would welcome some congenial loitering or chess with fellow explorers.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Strel Retired zee-captain turned scholar. Open to social interactions of various sorts.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Winona~Tintenfisch Winona Tintenfisch, aspiring street urchin. Would definitely be up for some fisticuffs or loitering.
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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2403

    5/13/2016
    I accept all nightmares.

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    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    Cecilia McKenzie
    Cecilia McKenzie
    Posts: 1

    5/14/2016
    My dearest Londoners,

    Oh how the past twenty four hours have flown! I am undecided as to what exactly motivates my exploration for this vast and mysterious city, but nonetheless my attention has been captured. I do find myself drawn to the bohemians, society, and the game. There is intrigue to be had! The persuasive arts are most intriguing, although this particularly player is unsure of the most efficient way to go about things.

    Despite my very new acquaintance to the game, intuition insists that it never hurts to befriend fellow players. I would very much welcome the opportunity of friendship, if you would so like. I will do my best to lend a hand in return.

    I look forward to getting to know you!

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cecilia McKenzie

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    If one were interested in pursuing friendship, I can be found here.
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    Lady garGar
    Lady garGar
    Posts: 2

    6/1/2016
    oooh, yes please. as a person of no interest just recently pursuing her first ambition (light fingers), i would welcome engagement with other players for pretty much any social activity. only for now, i must say helping anyone else out with her nightmares would do me no good whatsoever. Please feel free to drop calling cards on me, or however it is fallen people meet other fallen people, and i shall do likewise.
    Lady GarGar
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    absimiliard
    absimiliard
    Posts: 759

    6/1/2016
    @Zoe: You can also choose to have no ambitions. My character's ambitions are all within the realm of role-playing, I really don't see them following any of the real ambitions -- only Enigma holds any temptation for me.

    It ain't right, it ain't wrong, it's just the way I play.

    --
    "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain
    Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend.
    Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
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    6/9/2016
    @Koh Kai Ying; I think some of the Seeking paths require some stats higher than that, and you also need to consider things like SoTC, which is very important. Seeking has heretofore been especially dependent on Watchful, so you might consider getting a patron and spamming a lot of chess games to increase that stat. Don't despair, though, the content is going to take a lot of time, and I suspect there will be no resolution at best until next March.

    Most players save the Magnificent Feast for their first trip to the Nadir. I wonder what affect it would have on damage from Seeking.

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    edited by malthaussen on 6/9/2016

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    6/10/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    @Koh Kai Ying; I think some of the Seeking paths require some stats higher than that, and you also need to consider things like SoTC, which is very important. Seeking has heretofore been especially dependent on Watchful, so you might consider getting a patron and spamming a lot of chess games to increase that stat. Don't despair, though, the content is going to take a lot of time, and I suspect there will be no resolution at best until next March.

    Most players save the Magnificent Feast for their first trip to the Nadir. I wonder what affect it would have on damage from Seeking.

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    edited by malthaussen on 6/9/2016

    We know it removes some amount of unaccountably peckish, but i doubt it'll change reputation: abomination, weeping scars (Which is a good thing, seekers need those), stains on your soul (also good that it wouldn't change that), or Memory of chains. Ideally, it'll lower marsh mired, but i'd bet it won't.
    edited by Grenem on 6/10/2016

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    Ah okay. I will just soak in the rest of the game first.

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    6/16/2016
    One thing that I have always regretted is not robbing the Museum of Mistakes. So, if anyone is in the early stages of Heart's Desire, or wants First City Coins (or whatever the other payout is), please let me know. I'll even pay the entrance fee.

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    6/29/2016
    I'm also new, and am looking to do my first social actions.

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    6/29/2016
    I am very new to the game, and looking for any help and guidance.

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    Estelle Knoht
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    2/13/2016
    Grenem wrote:
    xKiv wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    Well... I would like the letter, but I don't have the resources to get Organizing a Wedding to that point. Really, I want Organizing 700, for the letter, and to talk to a certain grumpy hooded figure. Maybe more, if any options give out unique or semi-unique rewards.


    I am afraid the game will reset your Organizing to half of whatever the target number for your venue is. Even if you go for a grand event (1000 organizing total), both participants will only have 500 organizing to spend (each). Neither will be able to get the letter - you absolutely have to make it the event of the year if you want the empress to notice.

    To make matters worse, it only gives 1000 organizing, which means you STILL miss out on some of the possibilities! it's like the entire setup was designed to make getting all the text impossible, even if you were hosting the biggest events out there!


    To be fair, small weddings are supposed to be different from large ones.

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    2/13/2016
  • Greetings fellow Turks,


  • Just looking for a bit of direction -
  • firstly in regards to a couple of bronze opportunity cards:
  • Choosing a Side, this seems a fairly important choice and I don't want to screw it up, it warns about consequences for changing your mind, and ive already accrued two points of turncoat very early in the game accidentally and im guessing this would push it up further. So I'd really appreciate some advice/insight into some/any of the future ramifications of this choice.
  • The Neath's Mysteries, appears to be a multi player only card and so if anyone else was wanting to get in on the fun (it appears benefitial only but I could be wrong) please let me know,


  • Sadly real life has intervened on my adventures in FL for the last month so I much behind where I was hoping to be, and haven't had much of a chance to research the current event. I have been able to use it to heavily grind Romantic Notions which I had trouble acquiring previously but I would all appreciate advice if there are any other key tricks/advantages to this holiday - I get the impression the main use at this point in it is to begin friendships with rare npcs (keep trying to make friends with the princess at the ball but even with rerolls cant make the check). Also how long after the 14th does this event linger?


  • Lastly id previously been given advice to save for a Townhouse because it has the best option cards. Ive finally hoarded enough Notions, but I just wanted to double check before pulling the trigger, especially since I was reading some of the novice advice threads and one of the suggestions was for an isolated residence to avoid city vice cards. So im guessing the trade off between the two are the chance to the salon/orphanage (I don't think this is too spoilery but pls let me know if it is and ill edit it) or a slightly better percentage chance to grind for rare cards. Any thoughts?


  • Thanks again everyone for your thoughts and insights!


  • ps the keen eyed lapidary gold card, she keeps popping up asking for large ammounts of resources, is there actually a final payoff or is she just grifting me, a snippet or two of the text made me think it was a con - don't need anything too spoilery just an idea if its worth playing along with her, thanks again.


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    2/13/2016
    Changing your closest to(I am guessing you mean this by chosing side) is expensive but I don't know if it increases turncoat. You can reset turncoat when you get involved in affair of the box by paying some connections. Your closest to will change automaticly if and when you sell the location of nadir.
    The Neath's Mystery is beneficial to both sides, really beneficial.
    You can start a friendship with princess also you will be able to acquire various companions with your masquing and you may get a tatto if you are entwined in certain family's bussiness. I think it linger until the end of february.
    As far as I know those isolated residances are only obtainable at christmas. You can get as many residances as you want. You don't need to be residing in them to get their specific card. To avoid city vices cards you need to be residing in of the remote lodgings.
    Lapidry upgrades a walking stick but it is not usefull but it looks good.

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    2/13/2016
  • Thank you both Suhe Gul and Grenem for taking the time to reply. The information is very helpful thank you.
  • As with many of the newbies I at Fl by way of SS so while I didn't know that the princess would give a Dread Surmise of am cognisant of their weight and importance.
  • Thanks again!

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    2/13/2016
    Alfred_Bloodwine wrote:
  • Thank you both Suhe Gul and Grenem for taking the time to reply. The information is very helpful thank you.
  • As with many of the newbies I at Fl by way of SS so while I didn't know that the princess would give a Dread Surmise of am cognisant of their weight and importance.
  • Thanks again!

  • Oh, opps! I thought you were doing a much later storyline, where you can either do mercenary work for the masters or for the revolutionaries- "boxful of intrigue". no, choosing a different faction will not raise turncoat, though most ways of swapping closest to: X will be both expensive and zero the previous connection.

    edited by Grenem on 2/13/2016

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    2/15/2016
    The Bethlehem lodging card is worth 3 scraps per action, or easy access to Knife and Candles form changes. And a 4th card slot.

    But, I'm pretty sure that it costs 50 Antique Mysteries if you buy it from the gentleman. Or an Impossible Theorem (49+ Searing Enigma) to upgrade it to a 5 card lodging.
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    2/16/2016
    I would be honoured to be accepted for membership of the Young Turks!
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    2/16/2016
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    A Game of Chess is one of the recurring dreams. You don't need anything to start dreaming of it, but I recall it being rarer than the others. Definitely rarer than What the Thunder Said. Might be on par with The Fire Sermon? It's been a while.


    What the Thunder Said is rare? I get it all the time. Probably my most common one. But, zero Chess. Not even once.

    Here are all of my dream stats.

    I have Burial of the Dead 12, Fire Sermon 9, Is Someone There 4 (Parabola has reset it from 5 about 4 times), Death by Water 9, What the Thunder Said 14

    I thought that all dreams had Unusual Frequency.
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    2/16/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    A Game of Chess is one of the recurring dreams. You don't need anything to start dreaming of it, but I recall it being rarer than the others. Definitely rarer than What the Thunder Said. Might be on par with The Fire Sermon? It's been a while.


    What the Thunder Said is rare? I get it all the time. Probably my most common one. But, zero Chess. Not even once.

    I have Burial of the Dead 11, Fire Sermon 9, Is someone There 4 (Parabola keeps resetting it), Death by Water 9, What the Thunder Said 14

    I thought that all dreams had Unusual Frequency.



  • I believe that is correct, but some have more than 1 card that can start the climb- meaning some are more common. that said, they all get a lot more common after you get a short ways into it.


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    2/16/2016
    Does something happen when you get the dreams high enough? I'm not sure what exactly is the point of them.

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    2/16/2016
    Remedan wrote:
    Does something happen when you get the dreams high enough? I'm not sure what exactly is the point of them.

    Well, they offer interesting text. You can, with sufficiently high stormy-eyed- aquired from what the thunder said- access a rare and interesting area. You can tell your dreams to a certain psychologist if you have them high enough- either sacrificing dream points for MW or throwing in a 2.5 echo item for a chance at a 12.5 echo item. You can turn in dreams in the nadir for it as well, though you need nightmares 2, 4, or 6 for each option to be availible.

    None of these have great EPA, but they all are interesting, or pay... acceptably.

    Additionally, if you get dreams high enough, cards will generally stop appearing.

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    2/16/2016
    You can also get Connected Master with one of the Psychologist interviews. Up to level 11, I think.

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    I got that rare success 2 out of the last 3 times that I tried it.

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    2/16/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    I got that rare success 2 out of the last 3 times that I tried it.

    Wow- i must have overestimated how rare it was. or, alternatively, you must be truly, absurdly lucky. either way, congrats- assuming, ofc, that you care about connected: masters, that is.

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    2/16/2016
    Grenem wrote:
    Squeakmaus wrote:
    And wondering where to get a cat.

    Which kind are you looking for?

    I was thinking of looking for a starveling cat, so it could eat some of my rats. And also, I like feeding cats.

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    2/16/2016
    Squeakmaus wrote:
    Grenem wrote:
    Squeakmaus wrote:
    And wondering where to get a cat.

    Which kind are you looking for?

    I was thinking of looking for a starveling cat, so it could eat some of my rats. And also, I like feeding cats.

    Edited in the grubby kitten, i forgot about that one.

    There's also the bengal tigress, but i don't think that really counts as a cat, unless souls are counted amoung the stars.

    I'll send you a cat-box, but i doubt it'll prove to hold a starvling cat. if you get a midnight matriarch, well, congrats! you just won big!
    edited by Grenem on 2/16/2016

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    2/18/2016
    To everyone here, I just wanted to say that I will be stepping away from the game for the foreseeable future, because I've been very busy with school. Most of the people I know are here, so I thought it best to post here! I'll see you all around soon if my workload eases up, but if not, it's been a fun ride! =)

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    Alfred_Bloodwine
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    2/18/2016
  • Hey guys,
    I would love some more advice. Firstly might be a silly question but I start to find it annoying to have to keep going to the 'myself' page and changing my outfit sets, are there any hotkeys that do this? (I couldn't find anything online but it doesn't hurt to ask)
    - I am on the final step (or at least a major one) of the Cheesemonger (the cheesemonger's plan) and I just cannot decide which option to take, is there an optimum option in regards to outcome (both in terms of profit, story and future benefits?)
    - Maybe it is rng on my behalf but why are Confident Smiles the easiest rerolls to get (I have well over 20 of them and still burn them like candy). I have an ok stream of sudden insights, and never find the other two.
    - Still looking for someone to do The Neath's Mysteries with, its been sitting in my opp cards for over a week so would be nice to clear it out, if anyone wants the benefits (or even just to help me out) pls let me know, thanks!
    - Feast of the rose Ive gotten a couple of companions so far (the diplomat and the ghost) are there any key ones to get in terms of story options they open up? I heard Lettice is worth trying to get (if one goes the fate route), does she give story or is this just for her bdr trait? Also in regards to the feast I supported Clathermont as it felt like the right thing to do, but got a very disappointing amount of story, I have the option of undoing the choice for a cost, or should I just wait til next yr and then check it out then? Finally on the feast, the dreadful surmise I got doesn't seem to have many applications (according to the net) in currently accessible content. I understand they are v rare, so should I just hang onto til failbetter makes the content open again, or for extreme end game ie impossible theorems or is it worth just monetising it?
    - Also in regards to echoes Im finding it quite a pain gathering expedition supplies for the forgotten quarter (got the tomb of the seven quest but only managed one thieves cache trip so far), so darn expensive, I understand grinding and slowing accessing content is a big thing in FL but is there an ideal (ie min/maxed) way to go about this, or any secret tricks? (the hard backed labourer gives a good number but when you add up the costs of selling the components at the bazaar it pretty much works out the same as straight echoes)
    - Lastly a couple of things for planning for the future, Id read in previous advice that the general commodities ie jade, pearls, brass etc are safe to sell for echoes when you have a base of 2-3k. Are there any ones specifically worth hoarding in greater ammounts (id read this was the case for rostygold but it didn't say why - currently have over 9k of it saved). Also I am aware that tonics don't work as well when a posi, but v early on id read it was worth hoarding half bottles of vigor for this point - is that true or did I misread it? (have like 20 of them, should I keep stocking them or just use them now?)


    Sorry for another very long post, I love the mystery of the game but also don't want to make any major long term blunders, so when I think about all my questions I just keep typing and typing. Please respond to any bits that you feel like.
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    2/18/2016
    Lettice is a good companion because she improves the MW payout for the Mercies option in your Salon, once you become a POSI and open a salon.

    I'd be happy to receive a Neath's mysteries invite.

    For Expedition Supplies, the optimal path is using the Pewter Mug and Glim to increase Connected Docks and cashing that in for supplies. Try to keep your connected above 10. 15 is a good point to cash in.

    Hoard Rosygold. You will need ALOT of it.

    The Dreadful Surmise is very, very rare and super useful around Christmas. I suggest keeping it.
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    2/18/2016
    Confident smiles are common on non-social action cards, especially trash ones, like your aunt. in addition, there are sources of confident smiles that aren't availible elsewhere.

    Expeditions supplies are best paid for in whispered secrets (either two, or one and a 10 pence item, for an average echoes per supply of 1.45 eps, assuming even odds.) Later on, the pewter tankard can save trouble and make glim to boost docks, followed by rostygold to buy supplies, superior in epa. it's got a high initial cost, though.

    supporting clathermount was a terrible idea. why would you do that! now you have to grind up a blackmail material, assuming you didn't sell the payout. well, no matter. you should progress through the story. permanent +1 BDR will be very useful for notability grinding, and it'll pay for itself shortly, if you get to the tatoo.
    edited by Grenem on 2/18/2016

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    2/18/2016
    I am new to the game and I just wanted to join this band of newcomers. So much to learn!!!

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    2/18/2016
    Well... Blackmail Materials are a rare success for converting up 33 Appalling Secrets by writing down the worse bits.

    You can also trade in 25 Scraps of Incendiary Gossip on the card Wanted: Reminders of Brighter Days

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    2/18/2016
  • Thanks Charlotte,
  • I really appreciate the effort you went to to write that very detailed guide!

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    2/8/2016
    For K+C,

    I think you will have only have lost your Knife and Candle Form (Bat, Beetle, Egg etc)? It happens whenever you leave London either through menaces or on your ship. It's not harmful, but can be a little annoying as sometime you have to wait to draw the right card or for your weekly Iron Token drop to take up a form again when you get back.

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    2/9/2016
    @absimiliard: Pre-PosI, you may abuse Laudanum at pleasure to chase those blues away, in addition to solutions mentioned upthread. It becomes addictive after reaching PoSI status, which addiction is apparently not too troubling. I wouldn't know, I never touch the stuff.

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    2/8/2016
    You can also get Mourning Candles from a certain card.

    It is also a great way to get either Hedonist or Austere to 10.

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    2/8/2016
    Thanks. My stats are in the 50-60 range, so I haven't beet to the Labyrinth of Tigers. I got my hedonist up, though.

    I have a follow-up question. I know that state of some confusion makes you lose your dream progress. But I'm not really clear on what A Criminal Record does or why death or Tomb-Colonies are bad.

    I noticed that upon entering the colonies, I lost some qualities associated with Knife and Candle. So does that mean it's only bad if you play K&C?

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    2/10/2016
    If you go to the Perfumed Pleasure Garden in the Feast option that appears everywhere, you can use the Wheel of Affection to easily grind Romantic Notions at 10 Romantic Notions per 1 Carnival Ticket and 1 action. This is a very easy way to buy a Handsome Townhouse. A Rare Success gives you a point of Masquing and an item that you can sell for 12.50. And, failures give you a Gift of Scorn, which can be traded in for Masquing for the feast, up to 10 (so cash them in after spending your current Masquing).
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    2/10/2016
    Lisbella Peridot wrote:
    Grenem wrote:
    For those of you in the young-turk's club- unless you have a fate-locked companion to obtain, the masqueing is availible outside the gift exchange, and it is generally more efficient to aquire your desired companions in this manner.

    Exchanging gifts is fun, so feel free to do it anyways, but they aren't all that immidiately useful.
    edited by Grenem on 2/9/2016


    It is an expensive affair. I have a nice hat I want to buy but these glasses of teeth are expensive!

    Well, If you'll PM me with what you need, I can probably help you out a bit. I have plenty of gifts from last year myself, so I'm not exactly in any rush to gather more, but i gathered some of the items to help people out with- I have over 40 masqueing's worth of gifts ready to hand out, and more within plausible reach with a bit of grinding, so yeah. This offer stands for anyone reading this thread, btw.

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Sara Hysaro
    Sara Hysaro
    Moderator
    Posts: 4514

    2/10/2016
    The Pink Painted Cat is a Companion. No stats, though.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro
    Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.

    Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/10/2016
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    The Pink Painted Cat is a Companion. No stats, though.

    Oh, you're right- pretty sure it wasn't in december, though.

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/10/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    Zero stats are fine. I want one to own.

    Quick question. If I trade in a gift, is the full stack traded, or is it one by one?

    it's one-by-one, but i believe it's 0 actions to turn one in.

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Erasmus Widdershins
    Erasmus Widdershins
    Posts: 5

    2/11/2016
    Hope I'm not too unfashionably late to this party. Just staggered into Fallen London a bit ago and learning the ropes. Does that make me a Young Turk? In any event, love to make acquaintances within the game for a round or two of Chess, Fisticuffs, what have you. Someone sent me a glass of teeth, haven't the slightest idea what to do with them. But hey! It was a present.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Erasmus~Widdershins

    Recently dropped down from the surface, but always pleased to make new acquaintances, oh delicious friends
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    2/12/2016
    There are some options that are luck based, instead of stat based, like the box of chocolates, or the letter. I suggest focusing on story instead of stat grinding and figure out which Feast options are luck based, and using those if your stat checks are below 50%.

    While it is recommended to pick up the Acquaintance: Captivating Princess on the Duchess's Ball on the Feast of the Rose card for 15 Masquing, the stat check is pretty steep. If you want it, I recommend using 2nd Chances.

    If you want to spend Fate, use the Feast of the Rose card to get Masquing to 20, regular gifts to 30, then a 10 Fate gift to 40 for Lettice. She will be useful once you become a POSI, much later. You will want to pick up the Presbyterian Diplomat for similar reasons, but you will not need Fate for him.

    Other than that, get whoever you want. You can probably get all the regular ones by just playing the Feast of the Rose card (although the ape also requires a 90 Echo investment in a monkey) and getting Masquing regularly.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    2/12/2016
    @th8827: The dating options provide some good EPA, as well as MW (more for the host) second only to Private Suppers. So if your Free Evenings are not being used, having a beau is not a bad idea. There is no need to take it any farther. In fact, under present rules, marriage to a player isn't profitable at all: for some reason FBG thinks married couples don't go out on dates or have any fun.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/12/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    @th8827: The dating options provide some good EPA, as well as MW (more for the host) second only to Private Suppers. So if your Free Evenings are not being used, having a beau is not a bad idea. There is no need to take it any farther. In fact, under present rules, marriage to a player isn't profitable at all: for some reason FBG thinks married couples don't go out on dates or have any fun.

    -- Mal

    Well, once you don't have free evenings- because you're busy being a patron, for instance- marriage isn't that much worse, either. In addition, engagement unlocks a +1 all base stats peice of gear, and marriage allows access to items otherwise unavailible- so if you're a manic completionist, you'll need to get married at some point. (since the letter from the emperess is otherwise unavailible.)

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    2/12/2016
    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    I am right to remember also that married players can still go out on dates, just oddly not with their spouses?

    Quite possibly. That sounds completely plausible, honestly.

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Hobnail
    Hobnail
    Posts: 179

    2/12/2016
    That is the case!

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hobnail
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    xKiv
    xKiv
    Posts: 823

    2/12/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    Well... I would like the letter, but I don't have the resources to get Organizing a Wedding to that point. Really, I want Organizing 700, for the letter, and to talk to a certain grumpy hooded figure. Maybe more, if any options give out unique or semi-unique rewards.


    I am afraid the game will reset your Organizing to half of whatever the target number for your venue is. Even if you go for a grand event (1000 organizing total), both participants will only have 500 organizing to spend (each). Neither will be able to get the letter - you absolutely have to make it the event of the year if you want the empress to notice.

    --
    https://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/xKiv - a witchful, percussive, dangermous and shadowry scholar of coexplodence, hopsidirean, and walker of fallen kitties.
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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2561

    2/22/2016
    Your location shouldn't impact the frequency of cards.

    (unless, obviously, if it's a card which can *only* appear in a certain location)

    --
    Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
    (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    2/22/2016
    @Atnaja: The first rule of the RNG: Watched Card Never Comes.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    2/12/2016
    I just received the following social action.

    http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Admit_your_affection_for_an_acquaintance

    What does it mean, exactly? Does it lock me into a relationship with a single person, or does it just unlock new options with them?

  • edited by th8827 on 2/12/2016

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    Lisbella Peridot
    Lisbella Peridot
    Posts: 138

    7/17/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    I have some advice for some new players.

    You can get a 4 Card Lodging for about 100 Muscaria Brandy (and 500 Brilliant Souls). You get 4 Muscaria Brandy for each Public Attention that you turn in. This Election can help give you a head start on saving up for your 4 Card Lodging.


    You can also get another 4 Card Lodging with 50 Antique Mysteries. If you play slowly, the mysteries from Trade Secrets alone will cover the cost.

    --
    Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn
    Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now.

    Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender
    Kelly is taking a long break on isolation.

    I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot!
    I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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    Lieutenant Astros
    Lieutenant Astros
    Posts: 12

    7/20/2016
    While I'm hardly new to the streets of Fallen London(Still not a PoSI) I feel I've gravely been missing out on the social aspect to it all. I'm not just talking about favors either. While I'm down for helping, when I can, I'd also like to meet an acquaintance to discuss the city's finer points aside from mechanics. The different story lines, speculation, future content, etc. Though, depending on how it's setup, I may be better off visiting The Salons.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Astros
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    Koh Kai Ying
    Koh Kai Ying
    Posts: 110

    7/21/2016
    The Salons are better for that! Large paragraphs are difficult to read with social actions.

    --
    Illyria K is your friend!!

    More active nowadays. Eager for any social actions including Loitering!
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    BomiBoogie
    BomiBoogie
    Posts: 15

    10/17/2016
    Hello Londoners,
    as a bit confused and overwhelmed new player (playing this and Sunless Sea for only a few days), I would be happy to make some acquaintances, although I would rather not send invitations to just random locals, you never know who lurks in there... wink

    My profile is here:
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BomiBoogie

    Also, if this it not the right topic, please give me some directions.

    I appreciate your answer(s).

    PS.: I really like the whole concept, so I became an Exceptional Friend of the Bazaar, if that counts.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BomiBoogie - Seeking knowledge and eager to make this forsaken Neath a better place as humanly possible.
    Motto: "Never look a gift squid in the mouth."
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    Aria327
    Aria327
    Posts: 2

    12/6/2016
    Never actually engaged in any of the more social aspects of London so this sounds interesting http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Nixeris
    edited by Aria327 on 12/6/2016

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Nixeris
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    Matt Stephans
    Matt Stephans
    Posts: 2

    1/30/2017
    I would love to make some social connecctions. I'm crafting spreadsheets to learn my way around (the wiki has been helpful), but human contact would help for pulling off some heists. :-) My profile is: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/mstephans
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    Ushafuse
    Ushafuse
    Posts: 1

    2/3/2017
    Hello world! I'm kind of new here, but by right, I joined around December and never found and topics for newbies, until now. I'm kinda stuck at Spite, please PM if you can help :v

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ushafuse

    --
    Good morning!
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    nakatakazz
    nakatakazz
    Posts: 2

    2/7/2017
    I just joined and I have no friends, but I would like to be part of this if you will have me.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/nakatakazz
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    Klugg
    Klugg
    Posts: 2

    2/9/2017
    Not sure how young a Turk I am but happy to make contacts

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Klugg
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    Migenro
    Migenro
    Posts: 1

    2/17/2017
    I've been lurking in Fallen London for a while, but I would prefer to be more involved in society before I become a significant individual. Feel free to send me an invite for anything.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Migenro

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Migenro
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    Aurelia Dedlock
    Aurelia Dedlock
    Posts: 10

    2/18/2017
    Hello all, I think this is a fantastic idea! Just started out yesterday and would love to make some contacts - my profile is linked in my signature. Already a keen-eyed and formidable lady, so perhaps I can be of some use.

    --
    Lt. Aurelia Dedlock, an ardent glassman with a deep need to know and understand the Neath, linked as it is to whatever amounts to an afterlife in this universe and therefore her deceased daughter. Her true pleasures are seldom, often in the dark, and comprised mainly of honey dreams that remind her of the past and Celestial poetry - though she’s working on building something like a life for herself in the present revolving mostly around aiding revolutionaries and caring for the children of the Neath in her orphanage. Revenge is what drove her here, but it is for their benefit that she stays.
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    Gurkie
    Gurkie
    Posts: 1

    2/21/2017
    Greetings,
    I invite any and all to contact me at their convenience, I just arrived in London a few days ago and would appreciate amicable acquaintances.

    Please send all post to the apartment above the bookshop:
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Gurkie

    --
    My Profile
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    Dr Kurt Krankschaft
    Dr Kurt Krankschaft
    Posts: 2

    2/23/2017
    Heartfelt felicitations, fellow denizens of this fair, fallen city.
    I am a relatively recent arrival in your glorious subterranean metropolis. Thus far, I have largely blundered haphazardly through a series of variously baroque and bizarre encounters, largely prioritising pursuits of a Watchful nature (though alas, my Hedonist rating doubtless betrays a penchant for more sensual diversions...)
    I have accumulated a modest assortment of acquaintances (as well as a motley pantheon of companions), but would entirely welcome additions, liaisons and invitations.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Dr%20Kurt%20Krankschaft
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    Noz WOLF
    Noz WOLF
    Posts: 14

    2/25/2017
    Hello,

    I am a lone wolf with deficience in social skill, but i am still interested to pursue some interaction with fellow londoner. Don't hesitate to send me news of your endeavour and if you need any help to trail the affluent photographer don't hesitate. I will happily sent you challenge and share stories on my constant exploration of London and it's secret.
    edited by Noz WOLF on 2/25/2017

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Noz%20W
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    Seven's Crown
    Seven's Crown
    Posts: 3

    2/26/2017
    Greetings, citizens of the Neath.

    Please feel free to send messages, calling cards, requests for social activities (including Loitering!), or anything else (...preferably except live rats. No live rats, please.) to Victor and Jehan, both of whom are new to this exceptional city!

    --
    The Ardent Chemist, a haunted and obsessive scientist of mysterious and indistinct gender.
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    mattygroves
    mattygroves
    Posts: 5

    2/27/2017
    Greetings! I too am new and still exploring this strange place. I'm mattygroves (I think my profile is http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/mattygroves) - please invite me for coffee - I'm a terrible chess player so do feel free to beat me smile
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    hiperbole
    hiperbole
    Posts: 2

    3/5/2017
    You can add me here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hiperbole
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    Shiner Jane
    Shiner Jane
    Posts: 10

    3/23/2017
    I would love the opportunity to join your rag-tag gang of misfit adventurers. What could go wrong?

    --
    Shiner Jane - An Urchin, all grown up. She is far too pleasant to be a serial killer.
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    motherofpigeons
    motherofpigeons
    Posts: 18

    4/6/2017
    Why hello there! Joined at the end of March, so I don't know the game much and have only some nice fellows from reddit. I'll appreciate any new contacts and interactions (except listed below).

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mother%20of%20Pigeons
    Another new face in Fallen London - a writer lady who carves her path to the nobility. Likes art, beautiful women, animals and dangerous secrets of the Neath.
    Watchful - 71, Shadowy - 80, Dangerous - 73, Persuasive - 115. PoSI.
    For now any social interactions are appreciated, except Seeking.
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    kalhalla
    kalhalla
    Posts: 4

    4/30/2017
    Greetings Delicious (hopefully soon to be) Friends! I joined the game a few months ago after becoming OBSESSED with the world and lore via Sunless Sea, and joined FL to learn more about the world.... but I have been flailing a bit confused.

    Thanks for putting this together, and I am now reading the Advice for New Players topic so I can hopefully figure out what I am doing. In the meantime I would love new contacts.

    --
    Still flailing and confused in Fallen London after a couple of months aimless clicking. Interact with me?

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/kalhalla
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    NikoLazuli
    NikoLazuli
    Posts: 5

    6/19/2017
    You got my interest. Count me in.

    --
    The night shivers, while secrets and shadows run past the hidden eyes.
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    norathar
    norathar
    Posts: 5

    6/27/2017
    I'm fairly new and would be glad for social actions (no live rats - I can get into enough Wounds/Nightmares/Scandals on my own! - though if anybody has dead rats on strings or a good way to farm those, I'd happily accept them, as I could realllly use rats on strings but don't have a good way to farm them. As for social actions, I will happily accept pretty much anything that's not SMEN-related or otherwise harmful - anything like calling cards, social activities (including Loitering, at least right now), or messages would be welcome!
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    rhapsody
    rhapsody
    Posts: 3

    7/2/2017
    Would be happy to join any social interactions and possibly to find some like minded people.

    --
    Fair Play, Fair Game. Fair London.
    Marianna Davis - fixing damaged reputations for Feducci'95
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    Cysona
    Cysona
    Posts: 1

    7/11/2017
    Good evening, I had came here only recently and would like new contacts to enjoy. Feel free to send me messages and invites.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Cysona
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    Revival Lake
    Revival Lake
    Posts: 28

    8/9/2017
    I sadly rarely visit the forums, though it's always a delight when I do. I am regularly in game though, at least once a day. If you need a friend in game that can help with most any request, feel free to send me a card and any requests you need!

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Revival%20Lake

    --
    Find me in Fallen London! Either a Revival%20Lake or as Glamredhel! I love trades and roleplay and, of course, gifts~
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    TheFishQueen
    TheFishQueen
    Posts: 1

    8/9/2017
    Former player from a few years ago, recently decided to restart my progress on a new path. I'd love to get more into the social side of things this time, so drop me a message or request

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ella%20Blake
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    Silkdreams
    Silkdreams
    Posts: 1

    8/13/2017
    Normally I'm rather averse to er... "Social" games, but this is a perk I'd rather take advantage of.

    Incidentally, is there anyone that wouldn't mind taking a bit of the heat off of an upstanding, earnest chap like myself?

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/silkdreams
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    curtistruffle
    curtistruffle
    Posts: 139

    11/28/2017
    Quick newbie question... what common materials should I be hording and what can I fairly safely sell in the Bazaar for echos to upgrade my outfits? Watchful + Persuasive are my character focus. Still running around in newbie gear. The Wiki suggested that I should never buy anything... that stuff comes over time in-game.

    Do not sell Whispered Hints, Cryptic Clues, Rostygold, Glim, Prisoner's Honey and all sorts of wines. These ones come to use quite often and a stock of them will help a lot. Sell other things with no regret as you will gain access to reliable sources of everything, and several echo on start is better then several spare action points two months later.


    That's how I manage things with my alt character, my main was heaping everything, which resulted in great surplus of jade, rostygold and other trash, which is all right too because you feel really wealthy while cashing another hundred echo for midgame grind skip.
    edited by curtistruffle on 11/28/2017

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    Johnathan Priest(Nemesis), a Visionary Hunter of horrors both humane and eldritch.
    I am a Dangerous patron
    Jane Barlowe(Light Fingers), a Notorious Shenanigan and mediocre writer.
    Cardinalli Browning(Bag a Legend), a Joyful Adventuress and a fictional character, written by Jane Barlowe.
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    Malachai
    Malachai
    Posts: 3

    12/13/2017
    Hello! I've been wondering how to meet new people. Here's a link to my wonderful profile page ^^

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/MalachaiTea

    Feel free to contact me
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    skiian
    skiian
    Posts: 1

    1/1/2018
    I have been playing for a little while and still can't really figure out what I'm doing, so any help would be appreciated! Should be a link in the signature.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Skiian
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    Rythaem
    Rythaem
    Posts: 1

    1/20/2018
    I too am new (newbish) and believe I could benefit from such an association. Unfortunately, I really have no idea what I am doing. Perhaps this is due to one too many blows to the head at the Docks... perhaps from something else?

    Rythaem
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    Mr. Nose
    Mr. Nose
    Posts: 3

    4/9/2018
    Been digging around in the neath for some weeks , and indeed it is rich in misteries.
    Send me a calling card or simply send me beneficial social actions.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Boozear
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    Monara
    Monara
    Posts: 123

    4/17/2018
    I'm back after checking out the place a few years ago. Still very new here, open to social actions.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Miranah
    edited by Monara on 4/17/2018

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    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Miranah
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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    10/21/2015
    A more prominent link to the forums could help?

    A mention on tumblr and facebook, perhaps?

    --
    Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady.
    I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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    KestrelGirl
    KestrelGirl
    Posts: 138

    10/21/2015
    Great idea! I am a PoSI but would love to help new players out.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/KestrelGirl
    The Sociable Academic/KestrelGirl, an inescapable, sagacious, irresistible and breathtaking Lady of Some Importance. (Also add: terrifying, lethal, and perhaps midnight.)
    Proud owner of the Neathy Informer, a newspaper dedicated to the truth.
    Help me out with my FL/SS lore wiki, The Fifth City! http://www.thefifthcity.wikia.com
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    Shaphron
    Shaphron
    Posts: 8

    10/26/2015
    I would love to be part of the Young Turks. What an absolutely splendid idea. I shall send out my calling cards post haste!

    --
    If in danger or in doubt;
    Run in circles, scream and shout

    Michelle Palmer is a welcoming and friendly individual who is happy to join in all social interactions with descerning persons.
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    Valinaria
    Valinaria
    Posts: 1

    10/27/2015
    What a most delicious and marvelous idea!!! There's no question Id enjoy making your acquaintance ...

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Valinaria
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    Jacob Neary
    Jacob Neary
    Posts: 1

    10/27/2015
    Sounds great! I've only just started my journey and form what i've seen so far, being social has many benefits. I'm accepting any requests.

    --
    Jacob Neary, a suave and watchful gentleman
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/6/2015
    Shamelessly bumping this so it will not fall off the front page.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    11/7/2015
    I'm up for it. I'm currently vacationing at the Tomb Colonies of my own free will and not because of a mishap with an opportunity to argue with some gentlemen at my door, but once I finish my relaxing holiday away from the city, I'd be happy to cooperate with fellow newcomers.

    Particularly, anything that will get me First City Coins for my Heart's Desire.

    I have a decent connection to Society, so no Loitering, please.

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    Schmidt
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    11/7/2015
    Attend to matters of society and scandal in your lodgings. From there you may send a card. I'm rather interested in helping your brigade, Mal, as a POSI.

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    Gonen
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    11/9/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    Is there any way to receive suspicion reduction from others? I don't want to leave the court if at all possible, because it does not appear on the map... I don't know if there is a fee to reenter or not, but I read that it can be complicated...



    Not if you're unable to send from your lodging. But the Nikolas & Sons Instant Ablution Absolution from the bazaar is rather not expensive for the menace reduction (a lot of suspect plus a little bit of scandal)
    edited by Gonen on 11/9/2015

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    Gemma Hawley
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    11/9/2015
    You also get -2 CP of Scandal for catching the eye of the butler (under Disporting with the Servantry in Court). It requires Fascinating 4 to unlock and also removes 9 CP of Fascinating though, so it might not suit your needs but it does not require you to leave Court.
    edited by Gemma Hawley on 11/9/2015

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    Kaigen
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    11/15/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    In other news, I have accumulated a lot of Implacable Detective's Business Cards... Can someone explain the rules for the Cat and Mouse game?

    I also need a source of Abominable Salts... I can spend 4 Echos on it to continue the spider quest, but I would prefer not to spend Echos. I have to grind Foxfire Candles, instead... unless there is a better source of Salts.
    edited by th8827 on 11/15/2015
    The basic idea of Cat and Mouse is that you have 10 actions to accumulate 50 "Cat: Getting Warmer" to achieve your goal (60 gives a bonus payout). Each step on the way you can either take a luck check for free, or pay resources for a guaranteed boost to Cat. The further you go, the more points of Cat are at stake with each action, and the more expensive it is to guarantee success. Paying your way the whole time obliterates your profit margin, but not paying at all is liable to result in failure.


    Personally, I think you get a better payout by using the Business Cards for the "Dangerous Pastimes" action when engaged in another chase (such as for a piece of the Screaming Map). With good enough watchful, you can build a decent stockpile of Incendiary Gossip.

    Converting Foxfire Candles is basically the only reliable source of Abominable Salts. At your stage of the game, I'd suggest getting candles through the Church vs. Bohemians conflict card (seduce option), or else by calling in Favours with the Church if you have access to the Shuttered Palace and sufficient connections.

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    Sestina Valdis
    Sestina Valdis
    Posts: 210

    11/15/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    Speaking of the Screaming Map, I have the opportunity to search for that. What is the recommended skill level for the event itself, after the BDR check?



    Personally, I would only start looking for the Screaming Map's pieces after you are able to get a ship, and even then, only if you wish to go to Polythreme, as the game is suggesting (and you should give Polythreme a go, one day! It is quite an interesting place, although very grindy. Well, um, depending on your Ambition, you might have to go there. I shan't spoiler things.).

    For now, I think that there isn't much point for you to go after the map, unless you want to sell the map pieces (which is not all that lucrative, I suspect, especially if you are not a PoSI, because one of the map pieces can be sold for more if one is a PoSI. Selling gives nothing special: presbyterate passphrases for the left-hand side, and muscaria brandy (or puzzling maps if you are a PoSI) for the right-hand side).

    Since the Screaming Map search options are cat-and-mouse-based, I believe you don't need high stats for it beyond the BDR requirement to 'open up' the chase (and this BDR check will be much easier, too, with PoSI items). You should just keep lots of items around in case you need to buy your way to cat-and-mouse success (I believe it'll be stuff like whispered secrets and cryptic clues and puzzling maps), as Kaigen is suggesting. And if you want to use the map in conjunction with the detective's cards, in the manner that Kaigen is suggesting, then only your Watchful is necessary, I suppose.

    TL;DR I would continue banging for PoSI-dom first, and then worry about the map later. But that's just a suggestion, of course.
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/15/2015

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    Panthalassa
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    11/15/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    Incidentally.... how does one discover what their acquaintances may need or desire in-game? Totally in the dark when it comes to these social-type actions.



    Usually...well, you could ask them on the forums, if they can? Or send a social action and ask what they want? Hmm...

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    Sestina Valdis
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    11/15/2015
    They could have browsed their lists and noticed that you were eligible for the healing action (with the very fact that you are eligible implying that you have at least Wounds 3). I've had some friends who intuited that I required healing requests in that manner!
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/15/2015

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    malthaussen
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    11/15/2015
    When one chooses the healing action -- which is a subset of the "Inivite a Friend to do Something Dangerous" choice in your lodgings -- he is sent to a screen with a pull-down list showing all eligible contacts. If you have 3 or more wounds, you're on the list. This is true of all social actions: when you select one, you're sent to a list of eligible acquaintances with whom to do it.
    Try one yourself, and you'll see what I mean. And that is why, e.g., I sent you an offer of healing.smile
    As for healing, it costs the healer nothing but an action point. That's not a particularly valuable commodity.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/15/2015

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    Panthalassa
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    Posts: 27

    11/12/2015
    th8827 wrote:

    I'm not familiar with Christmas in Fallen London... What cards?


    My memory's a little rusty from a recent hiatus, but you can send cards to other people that raise stats depending on which one you send, among other things. Which card you can send is random, though. I kept getting Persuasive. ;_;

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    NiteBrite
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    11/12/2015
    Ooooh I had forgotten about Christmas Cards in Fallen London. Those things are so buff, they are like free patron lessons in a single stat plus free menace reduction. You can control which card you send by keeping an eye on your Airs of London quality. Every ~25 levels of airs (from 1 to 100) unlocks a different card for a different stat. So what you do is you put the Airs of London on your profile mantlepiece so you can see its value, then you use either the honey dens of Veilgarden (anyone), or any Unfinished Business option (if PoSI) to cycle your airs of london. If you have your profile open in a separate window or tab you can just refresh it to see your current value of Airs, and save yourself a trip back to your lodgings to see which "random" card you have unlocked.

    All this talk of cards, it really makes me want to organize people into groups of 8 who send the 7 cards time the healer brings to each member of their group, mindful to cycle airs when appropriate (so they can send the right stat to the right player). You'd gain 7 levels every week that christmas cards are open, which is like 4 to 8 weeks (28 to 56 levels of stats). You could power level so fast this way, it'd be really nice.

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    11/13/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    So, what we do is organize the Club into "squads" with an experienced POSI at the head and six newish players in it to exchange the cards.smile That's presuming the devs don't cotton on to the idea and change the Christmas (Sackmas?) routine in FL beforehand. The rest of the time, we can go around carolling or having lacre fights.
    Now, will the holiday have some function that can be performed by Keave and Mal's Excellent Room-Where-Food-Is-Prepared, that's what I'd like to know.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/12/2015

    Ah! I was just going to have everyone pair up at random based on when their time the healer arrives, but squad leaders is an inspired idea. Now I really want to do this. Even now, the threads of fate weave tighter around this plan. I've started recruiting potential squad leaders in the IRC and have 2 volunteer community event coordinators so far. I'll start writing up a roles and responsibilities document, as well as some educational tracts about the various mechanics involved in organized card sending and Airs shuffling soon. That should really get recruitment kicked off to a good start. It will be great and I am sure much fun will be had.

    And don't worry, I am sure we can find a way to work in Keave and Mal's Excellent Room-Where-Food-Is-Prepared from an event/story basis if not on a strictly mechanical one, haha.

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    Andrew Astherson
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    11/13/2015
    Aah... 'tis friday and I can finally write about 13 A4 pages of RP replies and to do some magic with documents

    EDIT: I'm keeping the link hidden at the moment. You'll see it if the document get approved by more experienced members of our community.
    edited by Andrew Astherson on 11/13/2015

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    11/14/2015
    The Airs of London serve as a bit of a randomizer to lock and unlock certain actions. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it until you come across an action you'd like to play that is only available within a certain range of Airs of London values.

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    th8827
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    Posts: 823

    11/16/2015
    Zulu time? I did not relize that this game was so popular there... That's pretty cool.

    I got myself a Dazed Raven Advisor in the bundle of odds and ends from my new Trickster profession's perk. I wonder how I should evolve it. I can make it go either way. I'll probably make one of each, given enough time.

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/16/2015
    The sentries report Blemmigans to south-west. Thousands of them. ;-)

    Just another way of saying UTC + 0.00 or GMT (Maybe that should be WmHT?)

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    Grenem
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    11/15/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    I waited and cashed in my first Trade Secret for the goodies, but I intend to use the next for stats boosts, at least until I have 100 in each stat. I didn't even notice that they had application for short stories, but since one of my whims is to someday have two classic short stories (one for bragging rights and one to sell), I'll probably look at that option, too. I'd definitely say that it is worth it to wait and convert your Professional Perks to Trade Secrets, though.

    -- Mal

    No. They are not worth using for stat boosts. 125 echoes is far more worthwhile. If you need stat boosts, grind them through second chance invitations and burning the chances for stat boosts. The returns are poor enough that the only good use for trade secrets is trading for goodies. It's only 150 CP for 10 actions.

    In contrast, invite-second chances grinding can offer, if the wiki's numbers are accurate, an average of 26 cp for 6 actions, assuming you exclusively have the +1 second chance outcome. If you have a 50-50 ratio, which is more likely at your level, you get 6 cp per action. (this is also why the free evening invites are good. both people get 2 second chances from that. also note the hedonist option on the gift, and the everyone deserves a second chance on the great game + church conflict. both give 4 second chances per action.)

    So you're spending an item worth 60 echoes before conversion to gain 9 stat points extra per action spent on using the item. A horrible waste, especially now, when new equips can get you much closer to your goal than 90 stat points will.
    edited by Grenem on 11/15/2015
    edited by Grenem on 11/15/2015

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    11/15/2015
    For people planning squads for Sacksmas, my Time The Healer is Sunday at noon Pacific Time.

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    11/15/2015
    Ah, good point. Mine is Tuesdays at 1700 Zulu. I'm typically online between 1300 and 0200 Zulu. Local time zone is Zulu -5.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/15/2015

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    11/17/2015
    It is a pretty good place to grind Walking the Fallen City and Seeing through the Eyes of Icarus. Plus, it's so pretty there.

    And eating Plums there makes me Unaccountably Peckish, which makes me happy. I was so disappointed when I accidentally lost it the other day...
    edited by th8827 on 11/17/2015

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    11/20/2015
    I only did the Cache and the Deep Blue. I think I may have done two caches, though.

    -- Mal

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    11/20/2015
    I did one more Cache, and I leveled up my Archaeology.

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    11/20/2015
    I found the Bejewelled Cane somewhat underwhelming as a reward of the Lapidary thread, especially given the amount of resources one has to throw at the problem to get it. Is the Bizarre trait really worth the trouble? There are plenty of ways to get the +4 Persuasive.
    Or does the Lapidary come again at some point?

    -- Mal

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    11/19/2015
    Oooh, picked up my first Diary of the Dead as lagniappe for converting Aeolian Screams to Storm Threnodies. I wonder what it does... That had to be a righteously rare result.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/19/2015

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    11/19/2015
    I really feel your pain with heists Sestina. I'm beginning to think Charlotte might not have an 'indoor voice'. I would be very happy to loiter a while with Fei Xue if I may.

    -Sparring invite sent your way Mal. Good luck with the dangerous rampage!

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
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    11/19/2015
    Yikes! -that Cheesemonger's Plan decision is hard.

    @Sestina -Brilliant! We can stomp loudly through the streets together ;-)
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/19/2015

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    Gemma Hawley
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    11/19/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    My Archeologist level is still 2, though. It did not show any progress in increasing... How do you get it to 3?


    Just keep doing expeditions. Weirdly, it doesn't show progress between levels, but eventually you'll get to 3.

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    Grenem
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    11/18/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    On? Is there an upside to being Peckish?

    -- Mal

    Easy methods to reach menace areas quickly. Easy methods to waste actions. once upon a time induced a horrible storyline that offered no rewards, and wasted vast quantities of resources, including your ability to sell a soul. if you had already sold it... let's just say that you'd do well to sell a wide variety of items, unless you like devils taking thousands of echoes worth of resources. It involved things like losing 60 levels worth of stat points, and other things.

    There's only two reasons to do it. one is the peculiar kind of self-destructive exploratory madness. The other is the possibility that you have truly been cursed with the plauge that is one-of-each, since there are seven unique items for this, currently availible through no other means. perhaps that will change. it is in keeping with the spirit of the story.

    It's called Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name, (SMEN for short.) and it's been temporarily discontinued. There are seven candles to lead you through the quest.
    edited by Grenem on 11/18/2015

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    11/18/2015
    And I am sane again... Time to go back to punching Black Ribbon Duelists in my quest to increase my Dangerous enough to move on with my quest to be important... if you can consider that sane.

    malthaussen wrote:
    On? Is there an upside to being Peckish?

    -- Mal

    Not really. I just like having it.

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    11/18/2015
    Besides fighting Duelists (which is getting my wounded a lot), I am also trying to Prepare expeditions to the Forgotten Quarter.

    The only affordable choice for me is trading in 10 Appaling Secrets for 1 Crate of supplies. Besides being slow, it is also driving me insane... I would prefer to do the Dock choice, but I don't know where I can reliably grind ConnectedBig Grinocks. I can do the thing on Watchmaker Hill when the Airs of London are good, which I have a 100% success Chance at, or unloading a ship, which I have a 65% chance at succeeding at... and lose ConnectionBig Grinocks if I fail.

    Is there a better way to get Supplies?

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    11/21/2015
    You'll be fine. smile The Mourning Candles are in the Moon League, and Moon League duels are one-on-one slow paced matches. The Wounds for losing a duel are minor, and you can't be attacked out nowhere like in the Iron League. The only way to die a horrible death there is to initiate a duel while already being most of the way there.

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    11/21/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    @th8827: "I do need about 22 more Mourning Candles to trade for a Patent Scrutinizer" This puzzles me, since a Scrutinizer is ony 28.80 and a Mourning candle will bring 2.50. Does your Ambition have a special one?

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/21/2015



    According to the wiki, trading in mourning candles gives 5 scrutinisers, not one. I would just buy a scrutiniser if you need one (and only one)! Farming mourning candles is difficult at the start, I feel, but much easier in the mid-late game. (See spoiler tab.)

    [spoiler]The affair of the box is a fantastic source of mourning candles if one has high shadowy, and has unlocked the storylet by progressing sufficiently through Mahogany Hall.

    One of the fate-locked options on the Capering Relicker card also gives candles. I believe it's the one that unlocks when you have done a Dealer in Souls.[/spoiler]
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/21/2015

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    11/21/2015
    I am still waiting for a K&C card.... been days.... FINALLY found a way to take a form... still waiting for more actions... LOL

    Still trying to figure out the FQ thing.... I got to start it... but now have a few supplies and no clue how to get back in.... shrug I guess I'll find a way....

    No luck with the Regretful Solider yet either... so my poor character is still kind of scattered... which is fine, since it was the plan from the beginning.

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    11/21/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    I am still waiting for a K&C card.... been days.... FINALLY found a way to take a form... still waiting for more actions... LOL

    Still trying to figure out the FQ thing.... I got to start it... but now have a few supplies and no clue how to get back in.... shrug I guess I'll find a way....

    No luck with the Regretful Solider yet either... so my poor character is still kind of scattered... which is fine, since it was the plan from the beginning.


    FQ: Are you trying to get back into your expedition? I think there's options if you go to the Messages tab.


    I drew the Regretful Soldier card twice and failed to make his acquaintance both times...... Don't worry, just keep at it! It took my main awhile, but she finally got it.


    [spoiler]I didn't know choosing the Dangerous option on his opp. card wouldn't allow one to befriend him. =( Thought he would grudgingly agree to a sort of rivalry/friendship after I defeated him in combat, action movie style. But no. I think only the Persuasive action works to start an Acquaintance.[/spoiler]
    edited by Sestina Valdis on 11/21/2015

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    Grenem
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    11/22/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    Didn't even notice that, but my Rival only got to 7 when I did the Deep Blue.
    In reference to income, I try to publish a story a day, for pocket change. It has the virtue of paying in cash. Not unlike you, I am attached to stuff, and if I get 1000 Jade would rather upconvert than cash it for 10 echoes. But brass and pearls and such are pretty much just currency, so I am less sorry to sell them. Hang on to rats, though, if you haven't seen the Duchess yet.

    -- Mal

    if you ever need to get rid of rats, there's a 5-action, 1 rat to 1.1 rostygold conversion option that consumes all rats. if you have a huge surplus, (and eventually rats really aren't all that useful. the game even hands you 7000 once.), this is a great thing to remember, if you ever wind up with over... 100 echoes in rats. at that point, doing the conversion is 2 epa. it continues upwards after- there is no cap on rats exchanged.

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    11/21/2015
    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    Sent a couple to you th8827, and one for Mal as he's so keen.

    - Whilst loitering earlier I found this topic in the Salons -in which the marvelous Sara Hysaro gives a link to some old, but still fully functional access codes - got a small Starbucks full of dark drop coffee, 3 trailing the affluent photographer and some other goodies. The tumbler blog they're on is fantastic for lore as well-
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/21/2015


    Thank you for that! Having 70 actions worth of darkdrop is lovely and allowed me to storm through lots of content today on both characters. =D

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    11/20/2015
    The Bejewelled Cane is definitely the guaranteed -1 Nightmares weapon, but players of Bag a Legend can also get a Spiked Rosary at a late point in their ambition. Only +3 Dangerous, though.

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    11/20/2015
    I just traded in most of my Connected: Society for Wine for Mr. Wines (The cheapskate did not even pay me), so if anyone wants to loiter, now is the time to send me Loitering requests.

  • edited by th8827 on 11/20/2015

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    11/20/2015
    I'll take five of those, th8827.

    -- Mal

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    11/25/2015
    Shameless pack-rat here too. Thank Storm there is no encumbrance system!

    @ Sestina - I know! He's funded my Uni tuition (but how would I hold my head up if I bought my way in).

    @ Mal - Thank-you and rahv7 that look very useful.

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    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    11/25/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    For all Young Turks, here is a handy-dandy little tool by FL's rahv7 that shows you in a glance what stuff can be converted to what other stuff, and how many actions it will take. Great if you want to know how many Cryptic Clues you need to create Antique Mysteries, and how to go about it. http://community.failbettergames.com/messages.aspx?topicid=20804&messageid=118651#post

    Just select the item you want to end up with and click "Check options," and viola (which is a musical instrument). Beats all to hell and back clicking on stuff in inventory to find out what you can do with it.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/25/2015


    Just tried it.... doesn't work for me.... sounds awesome though

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    11/25/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    Emoji? Back in my day, they were called Emoticons.

    Get off my lawn, whippersnapper! *Shakes fist at Neath ceiling*

    they were also called 絵文字(えもじ)
    (in japan) Which when copied from japanese to english, is where the term comes from. both terms are used alternatively nowadays. (generally, the fancier and more specific they are, the more likely to be called emoji, since while emoticon indicates feeling (emotion+icon), emoji translated litterally is picture+character)

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    11/25/2015
    Yup, I think you won't be able to draw the card until you get rid of the Picaresque Tales. Heh, I treat that card as a kind of cash cow... Then again, I am not strict with RPing my character... I often do OOC things. =/

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    11/25/2015
    Ah, I didn't know that about the Picaresque Tale, and I am loath to sell high-ticket items anyway, wanting at least one of everything I can get.

    I once was terribly embarrassed about Jack Vance... I'd long wondered why he used the phrase "the question is nuncupatory" (to which the card refers as well!), when I could never find a definition that fit contextually. Basically, it is an obsolete legal term for an oral, rather than written, argument. Well, I was a member of a nice little discussion board some years back, and there were "celebrities" galore who were also members (quite surreal to chat about sci-fi with David Crosby). And one of them was John Varley -- whom I immediately conflated with Vance and asked him what the devil he meant by using "nuncupatory" in such a fashion. Goofus I hope he got a good laugh out of it, anyway... but it's his fault, after all, for having the initials J.V.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/25/2015

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    11/25/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    Ah, I didn't know that about the Picaresque Tale, and I am loath to sell high-ticket items anyway, wanting at least one of everything I can get.

    -- Mal



    I know the feeling... if it's worth Echoes, I feel it's probably worth something else as well...

    That's why i started writing... the payout is in Pennies.... so I can spend those without fear

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    11/26/2015
    Yes, the Fate is more than three times the Exceptional friendship. Exceptional friend gives you a de facto 20 more actions per day, too, if you keep regular hours, because you'll have an additional candle to fill up while you sleep.

    -- Mal

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    11/30/2015
    I'm working on finding exhibits for the Labrynth of Tigers. I am getting very, very injured in the process, though... Here's a hot tip: Don't check equipment or go forthe throat, because failure reduces your "The Hunt is On".

    I'm having an easier time doing the actions at the Heights of Chicanery, but I am not getting any War of Illusion points, though...

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    12/1/2015
    Your humble obedient has ascended to the ranks of PoSI. I will still maintain the Presidency of this club, but it might be appropriate if someone not of that rank hold the office (the major duty of which is to welcome and instruct new members). Any volunteers? It will mean tending to a couple of social matters most days.

    -- Mal

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    12/4/2015
    Just poking my nose in to see that all is well. Everyone's plans proceeding satisfactorily, then?

    -- Mal

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    11/25/2015
    Three cheers and a tiger! Hip-hip-hip hooray!

    -- Mal

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    12/7/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    A helpful tip for my fellow Young Turks.

    Today, the Advent Calander gives a very useful item. Pick the middle choice for a wonderfully powerful companion.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/a/30913ghostofratmaspast


    So I'm clear.... which choice do you mean?.... since I lack 7 APs ATM I am afraid my list is in a different order than yours....

    Turn your Rat in to the Scuttering Company

    This will get you a scuttering squad, otherwise for sale at 500 echoes. If you don't already have a +8 companion in all three stats, that is probably the best option.

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    12/8/2015
    Correct:
    You get 7 Iron Knife Token every week, if you have less than 7.
    You get 12 Prize Tokens every month, if you have less than 20.

    Going from no Prize Tokens at all, after two months you'll have 24 of them. Use 5 of them to buy a Brass Ring and you'll have 19 Prize Tokens remaining. The next month you'll get 12 more for a total of 31 Prize Token, with which you can buy a Searing Enigma.

    In short - just by waiting (and buying a ring with tokens at the right time) you'll have 1 x Searing Enigma + 1 x Brass Ring every 3 months or so.


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    edited by dov on 12/8/2015

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    12/8/2015
    Go for a wander in the Forgotten Quarter, Mal. That's always good for some sleepless nights.

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    12/8/2015
    @Gemma Hawley: that, or I may just ask Cecil to lend me a Starveling Cat for a while. But I wanted to promote some socials here in the Club.

    -- Mal

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    12/4/2015
    Thanks for the reminder, I forgot to get my Advent gift today. You're right, I've even toyed with the idea of starting up an alt just because of that. FBG is being very generous!

    -- Mal

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    12/4/2015
    PoSI-dom approaches for yet another alumna of the Young Turks!

    -- Mal

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    12/4/2015
    Spring for the Reliquary, maybe? You have enough brass to afford it. You could then turn right around and sell it back for almost the same price, so you'd in effect paying to rent it for a short while. (I know you don't want to sell anything, but those Connections items are useful, in that you can soak the connection for stuff by Calling in Favors)
    Presuming you want to build the Church to 20, there is no way you can do that at the Carnival, you'd probably only get a level or two.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 12/4/2015

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    12/4/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    I am waiting on drawing a good card. Currently need either 5 more levels of church, or one of the housing cards to move to the next POSI step.

    I wonder if it would be more efficient to side with the Church in the Hell ve Church card, or side with Hell to drop Church to 9, then visit them at the Carnival...

    Siding with the church, definitely. The carnival has decent returns, but not for the actions taken. The rosary is best, but if you're not willing to shell out- 1.5 echoes per connection-aquisition, and about 9-12 actions from 10-20, plus the rental-fee, so to speak- then use the connections cards.

    Church vs. bohemians- generally only worthwhile early-game, but if you need connections, it's another source.
    Church vs. hell- unfortunately, the church branch "rewards" you with scandal reduction, rather than echoes. still good for connections.
    Church vs. great game- if you don't have connected the great game, get it. This is one of the best conflict cards out there: 4 second chances, one of each type, for favoring the church. OFC you need to keep up connected the great game for it to be sustainable, but it's a wonderful card regardless.
    edited by Grenem on 12/5/2015

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    12/5/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    Finally drew the "Call in Favours from the Flit" card after camping it for days. That's a lot of Proscribed Material, that is (the scraps wouldn't be bad, either, but what other action gives 14.40 worth of goodies with a single click?)

    -- Mal

    Depending on how you value scraps, the urchins option. A sell-value for scraps is ~.5 echoes, but as you're getting an exclusive item that'd probably be disproportianately hard to aquire elsewise, some value them at 1 echo each, or more.

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    12/5/2015
    Scraps are not really for selling. They are for saving up, so that you can get rare items from the Relickers for 3200 of the things.

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    12/5/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    Scraps are not really for selling. They are for saving up, so that you can get rare items from the Relickers for 3200 of the things.

    Yes, i know. It's still good to be able to put a price tag on them, though. Even if i have no intention to trade my 2812.5 echoes in Tears of The Bazaar, It's still nice to know their value. If you have no interest in collect-them-all, when you need the items, there'll probably be an alternate, if inferior, way to aquire them, so the cash-in value is the only thing that matters. (Note how the location of a prince of hell was availible for heart's desire, for instance.)

    if you have one-of-each, it's up to you how worthwhile scraps are, but it is only valuable because you have one-of-each. Otherwise, they're worth the ~.5 echoes worth of items you can cash them in for all the way up. (3200 for 1562.5, ~48-49 pence each.).

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    12/6/2015
    Greetings fellow travellers of the neath.

    I consider myself fairly new to this city and would be glad to make new acquaintances. I found my way to this fallen place a mere two months ago. Therefore new invitations would be appreciated.

    Yours sincerely
    MintFox

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    11/23/2015
    lady ciel wrote:



    Go to Watchmakers Hill and visit the Gamekeepers Cottage. The option to change leagues and lots of other things are there.



    Bless you, mi'lady, and NiteBrite as well. I shall ensure that Sestina gets back into the game-- under the Moon League, of course-- at her earliest convenience.

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    11/23/2015
    Well, well, the Empress's Court. Looks like some intriguing opportunities here.

    -- Mal

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    11/23/2015
    John Savage wrote:

    I have NO idea what I am trying to accomplish.... I was handed a Token and thought I'd try stabbing a few folks. Could be fun....



    Well, stabbing a few folks may offer you a few laughs and Smiles, but ultimately, it don't mean Jack.

    In all seriousness, feel free to attack Fei Xue any time! I don't think I have any items to lose. I hope.

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    11/22/2015
    So... Can someone explain to me how the Iron League of Knife and Candles works? I received a message that I lost, without even having a chance to react...

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    11/22/2015
    In Iron League it automatically compares baroque, savage, or elusive stats, depending on which attack option is selected, and the higher stat wins. You need to move up to Moon league if you want a chance to react.

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    11/22/2015
    th8827 wrote:
    So... Can someone explain to me how the Iron League of Knife and Candles works? I received a message that I lost, without even having a chance to react...

    It'll be exactly the same when you win, except the message will say you won. it just compares stats and rolls the dice.

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    11/22/2015
    Rudolph of Taured is open to all actions. I'm also open to suggestions on how to go about RP'ing a Rubbery hybrid for this character Big Grin

    Pyro is open for actions that are not loitering or photography.

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    11/23/2015
    That's what we're here for. A few bumps and bruises are nothing.

    -- Mal

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    11/24/2015
    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    Thank-you both! Moon League sounds a lot more civil. Wished I'd realised it was that easy to move into.

    - I'm very sorry to read about your ring Sestina, if I ever get one you or Fei Xue would be most welcome to steal it.
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/23/2015
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/23/2015


    Don't worry! I bought a new ring. I had to use one for my ambition, you see, but it's all been settled now.

    NiteBrite: Thank you for the guide! I'll have a look once I immerse myself in the game more. I kind of wanted to figure things out on my own before checking any guides (more exciting that way), but I'll check your guide if I have any pressing questions!

    --
    Sestina Valdis, the Saccharine Satirist.
    Appearance and Misc. Accoutrements
    A Past Scattered Across Discarded Stockings

    Fei Xue, the Artful Assassin.
    Self

    Edward de Riere, the Barebones Baron.

    Avatar by Daniel Ilinca.
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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2403

    11/24/2015
    Yes, it's one per action, and I've found horoscopes are good at raising certain quirks. Haven't noticed much else though.
    edited by suinicide on 11/24/2015

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/24/2015
    The Christmas card idea discussed earlier is now live at: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic21121-sacksmas-power-leveling-card-sending-list-.aspx Everyone should join, it is going to be fun.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/24/2015

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    11/24/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    The Christmas card idea discussed earlier is now live at: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic21121-sacksmas-power-leveling-card-sending-list-.aspx Everyone should join, it is going to be fun.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 11/24/2015

    And if fun doesn't appeal to you, ~50% of a level (on average) and 5 second chances per card should, especially when the second chances aren't capped. this is incredibly valuable. Christmas is the most profitable of all seasons. free stuff and free stats and free lacre.

    The entire month is awesome! If you have freinds, now is the best time for them to join- just before this holiday season!

    --
    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    11/25/2015
    Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
    Yes anyone else lurking (must be a better word for it than that) do please join in. Its great to have new friends and we're really not scary at all -
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/24/2015

    Correction. we are scary, we're just not malicious.

    Unless you horribly wrong us. then enjoy poison. lots and lots of poison, so much that you'll never accept an invitation of aid with wounds, or a boxed cat, again, from anyone.

    --
    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/25/2015
    Emoji? Back in my day, they were called Emoticons.

    Get off my lawn, whippersnapper! *Shakes fist at Neath ceiling*

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/24/2015
    The Club is always looking for a few good creatures. And don't fail to check the thread to sign up for the Christmas Card exchange. It will be invaluable for new players.


    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    2/6/2016
    I don't think that it locks you out of anything. It does unlock a card, though, which can be useful for raising Melancholy, if you ever need it.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    medi
    medi
    Posts: 2

    2/7/2016
    Hello, I decided to pop in and introduce myself, I've been playing Fallen London for about a month now but as usual with new things I've been nervous about actually entering in to the community. So I'm hoping I can make some friends (and then maybe stop pestering the only person on my friends list about everything, and that's only because I know them personally and dragged them into the game with me). I do enjoy stumbling through games blindly and thankfully haven't hit any road blocks so far besides forgetting what I'm supposed to be doing with my Inspired quality in the Empress's Court (then there's the usual menace qualities but they're pretty manageable... for the moment). Right now I'm simply hoping to expand my friends list and put myself out there rather than remaining in my own little secluded corner. :>

    --
    Shea Farris - Followed by rumours, nightmares, and occasionally an odd little creature.
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    2/7/2016
    Welcome to the forums. If you have any questions or want advice, feel free to ask. We love helping people.

    I am in the middle of an expedition so I can't check messages, but normally, I'd be happy to receive any Sparring, chess, or dinner invites, but not loitering. I'm also willing to receive dupes (fake requests) for the Affluent Photographer, if you need him.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    Gonen
    Gonen
    Posts: 817

    2/7/2016
    Glass Doll wrote:
    Hello everyone. I just started a few days ago. Failbetter managed to ensnare me with Sunless Sea during their free weekend and pulled me further in with Fallen London. I only sort-of know what I'm doing. That is, I pretend to have a clue and hope nobody looks on too carefully.

    I was sort of curious to know more about the horoscope card that I got a couple of times. Is it very significant to your character?



    Welcome!

    That horoscope card is a bit of flavour. Not much to it. Some options are locked on it until you advanced some more, but all in all - it is just a flavor for your character. Notice, please, that once you choose it, you can only change your horoscope with real life money (called Fate). Again, the choice you make will not hinder you AT ALL on your progress here.
    Welcome! Welcome and enjoy your stay.

    --
    The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.

    The long journey to eccentricity:
    On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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    Remedan
    Remedan
    Posts: 61

    2/8/2016
    I have a quick question. Is there something specific that I may want to accomplish during my banishment to the Tomb-Colonies? In prison, I made the acquaintance of the Repentant Forger. Is there a similar specific opportunity card that I should wait for?

    --
    My Neathly Alter Ego -- Still trying to make some sense of it all.
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    Mama-Ji
    Mama-Ji
    Posts: 1

    2/5/2016
    Really enjoying this thread, it's helping me learn a lot. I'm a total noob, but I really need to find a way to deal with my nightmares. Anyone care to help?

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mama-Ji
    edited by Mama-Ji on 2/5/2016
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    Parelle
    Parelle
    Posts: 1084

    2/5/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    I've only opened about 20 or so cat boxes, and gotten more Matriarchs (2) than Cats (1).

    -- Mal


    Hey! You stole my luck!
    That said, here's a bit on trading cat boxes: community.failbettergames.com/topic21215-the-starveling-cat-the-boxed-cat.aspx

    --
    Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous.
    pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/27/2016
    Since none of the ambitions is finished, the question is indeterminate, but no such plans have been mooted.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Harlocke
    Harlocke
    Posts: 506

    1/27/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    Harlocke wrote:

    I'm also still a bit unsure of what I should be doing next, and will gladly take any wisdom more experienced folk have to offer.

    I would be happy to give you wisdom, but... where are you currently? Your journal is empty, so I can't really gauge what you have done so far.


    I've been dabbling in all the starting sections of the city, but spent a lot of time progressing persuasion at veilgarden which is in the 70s, versus all my other stats which are still in the 30s/40s. I'm at the palace now, composing works for the empress. The only new areas I've unlocked so far are the palace and the flit. I've also been trying to progress the opportunity card storylets as much as possible. Not quite sure what my next move should be.

    Is there any reason to pick one ambition over another, other than liking the flavor of it?

    --
    I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Harlocke
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/13/2016
    As a general rule, Viergesicht, it is always best to do the Making Your Name quests ASAP, as they all open up new areas eventually. Be advised that the Vielgarden Name Signed With a Flourish is tricky: see the many threads about how to go about getting your first story published when you reach that point (which could be within a week or less of starting out, if you push Persuasive a lot. And I'd advise pushing Persuasive a lot: it can be an excellent money-maker, moreso than Shadowy, as counter-intuitive as that might seem).

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    1/12/2016
    Viergesicht wrote:
    Greetings,




    3. what do the dreams mean i keep having?

    You're not dreaming about yourself, really, but about various things in the neath. for instance, in the "What the thunder said" you're dreaming of two D___ beings, one a ___T__ and the other a ___G_N. Every dream is about a facet of the neath like this. Sometimes about how you interact with them, but every bit as often just the things themselves. Of course, unless you already know what the dream would tell you, very few of them make real sense. to be expected, though. never go north.

    --
    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    1/15/2016
    @th8827: you need 1000 to open the way to Mahogany Hall, along with assorted junk.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Esteban Delgado
    Esteban Delgado
    Posts: 31

    1/24/2016
    This is very odd. I failed a Shadowy Check for a Theft of Particular Character at the Bazaar, but got the Permit anyway. It just lowered my Casing from 11 to 5. Is this usual? I should think I'd be running for my life from the peelers right now.

    --
    I am Empty
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Esteban~Delgado
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    1/24/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    Congratulations, Sestina! Time to concentrate on your other characters, perhaps.
    I just had occasion to steal the Blue Stone from Mr Vance (to see what would happen). Has it any use, or is it simply another 12.50 free cash like the Picaresque Tales?

    -- Mal

    Just free cash, sorry. well, if you're truly nuts about deck optimization, and consider the card to be worth removing, you can hold onto the stone to keep the card from being drawn again.

    Also, the man you steal it from isn't mr. vance himself, but a fan who is memorializing him in such a way.

    --
    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    12/30/2015
    I think it is possible to get 3 Notability relatively quickly, depending on how many MW you've racked up before you become PoSI. If you have 24-ish, you can have a friend spot you the first point and then immediately summon the amanuensis for the second. Then you just have to dedicate a solid week to MW, with dinners, socials, what have you. Acquiring some BDR items would help, too. God's Editors should be relatively easy (presuming you already wrote a book), and its 4 BDR is very helpful. Now, I've been PoSI since the start of this month, and have 5 Notability and 14 BDR (and I gave away two Notability points to help others). So it should be reasonably possible to achieve 3 Notability while the Wicket is still open. There's even more discussion about this in the Janissaries, as you might imagine, since most of the new PoSI are trying to accomplish the same trick.
    Even if you decide to take it easy and not try for a 5-card upgrade this season, getting to 3 Notability quickly is useful because you can then upgrade your profession to something more lucrative.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 12/30/2015

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    12/30/2015
    I have 5 spare Free Evenings (My patron is on vacation), so if you are interested, I can send you 5 invites for Private Supper this week and next, to help boost your Making Waves (I need the boost, too) But only if you become a POSI. Make sure that you don't accept too many of them at once, and overshoot your goal, because extra Making Waves is wasted.
    Send me a calling card, if you do become a POSI and are interested.
    edited by th8827 on 12/30/2015

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    Jazstar
    Jazstar
    Posts: 6

    12/29/2015
    I too would like to be included in this smile
    edited by Jazstar on 12/29/2015

    --
    Jazstar is looking for new friends to make!
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Jazstar

    Evelyn Blackwood is looking for her hat. Have you seen it?
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Evelyn~Blackwood
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    Guest

    12/30/2015
    Thank you all so much for your exceptionally thorough advice! All things considered, I think I'll stick to a Remote Address this time around and continue to enjoy peaceful pre-POSI days for now / go for POSI once I'm more thoroughly prepared. All the advice above will definitely be very helpful for the future — thanks again!
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    Guest

    12/23/2015
    the truthseeker wrote:
    Having gotten the Night whisper a while back, the only way low level people can get it without the Fidgeting Writer is the said 1:8 chance for the pair of them from the Blue Heaven Expedition. If they were ever part of a fate locked story besides expeditions, I do not know.


    Here's my first attempt at being Fate Cryptic [if you don't have to do that and I'm better off just saying it outright, I'm very sorry, haha]:
    [spoiler]I've recently attained my first and only Whisper as the first portion of a reward from a certain individual with an unusually strong desire to clear my path of snow. So, it wasn't at all without its cost.[/spoiler]

    Ms de Witte -- thank you very much for your advice and attention!!
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    Guest

    12/23/2015
    [spoiler]And all I got was this nice ro....hey, where did this cabinet come...where did my robe go?![/spoiler]
    edited by the truthseeker on 12/23/2015
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    Guest

    12/21/2015
    John Savage wrote:

    If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again.

    Brutus (see my sig) likes your quote John Savage.

    Just this once, he won't "hit it again" if something fails. (Pray it does die when he shoots it again however or he may wish to "talk" with you wink )
    edited by the truthseeker on 12/21/2015
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    Sestina Valdis
    Sestina Valdis
    Posts: 210

    12/21/2015
    The rats can be useful for entry into the Labyrinth of Tigers (which, I think, gives them back at some point later. =P). Also, that idiot plant consumes lots of rats... Sestina has a modest stockpile of 6k lying around for its nutritional needs.

    --
    Sestina Valdis, the Saccharine Satirist.
    Appearance and Misc. Accoutrements
    A Past Scattered Across Discarded Stockings

    Fei Xue, the Artful Assassin.
    Self

    Edward de Riere, the Barebones Baron.

    Avatar by Daniel Ilinca.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/24/2015
    John Savage wrote:
    Grenem wrote:
    tommorow, you will recieve a feast. do not consume it, until you have been in the nadir. the loss of irrigo is amazingly valuable, and the other factors are no substitute. As such, do not waste it until the loss of irrigo will aid you!


    Thanks! Good to know!

    It also slightly boosts all stats, refreshes actions and cuts menaces, but the irrigo is so much more useful that... well.

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    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    12/24/2015
    @John: you'll become partially immune to all the pharmaceuticals, but social menace reduction will work as always. You'll just have to be more sociable!

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Deatheye
    Deatheye
    Posts: 67

    12/26/2015
    im a pretty new player with 50 allstats and im here to ask about ambitions what are they wich one should I get and whats the deal with the patron?

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    75 stats
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    Deatheye
    Deatheye
    Posts: 67

    12/26/2015
    thank you one more question what would be the best way for me to getsupplies for the expedition to the forgotten quater and unlock the maghonery hall and labirinth?

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    75 stats
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    John Savage
    John Savage
    Posts: 198

    12/26/2015
    Rescued by a Bejewelled Cane.....

    Wasn't on-point this morning.... and was poking about in the Labyrinth.... suddenly I'm stark-raving mad.... I quickly pick up the Cane and high-tail it back to my lodgings for several rounds of sleep....

    D'oh!

    Maybe I should do a stint and get it over with.... Hmmmm....

    --
    If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage

    Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    12/27/2015
    Players with no Destiny should note that they can get one for a pail of snow. As non-PoSI can't have 5-card lodgings, it is something to keep in mind. A normal (non-Fate) Destiny will boost one stat by +5 always.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Nibelethe
    Nibelethe
    Posts: 7

    12/27/2015
    I've been playing for about two days now and have been stumbling around bemusedly with no idea of what I'm doing. It's been quite a bit of fun and I'd love to put my name on this thread as well. I've no idea how much help I'd be to anyone but social interaction is always nice smile

    I've also just received a Maverick Bloodhound... does this sort of thing happen often? I truly emphasised with the bewilderment in the text which had me and the dog staring at each other. We're in a Hell dimension, am I really a suitable dog owner? Am I meant to do something with the dog? Is he likely to actually be a demon who'll eventually kill me?

    On the upside this is the first time I've ever visualised character this much that I haven't written from scratch. Here's my character, trying her best to be a shadowy, persuasive investigator who has already gone insane from the nightmares once and now she's staring stupidly at her new pet trying to work out if it's a 'Mr Fluffles' or more of a 'Rex Killer'.

    --
    The stars were close enough to almost touch...

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Nibelethe
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/28/2015
    malthaussen wrote:

    I went insane on my second day. You can avoid it by never letting your Nightmares rise to 8 or above. Don't look in any mirrors at the Carnival, either.
    edited by malthaussen on 12/27/2015

    The ambition mirrors are mostly safe. Mostly. It won't instakill you, and it won't drive you mad unless you're pretty badly off already. it's also not a great idea, even if it won't hurt you as badly.

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    12/28/2015
    Anyone want free surprise packages? People trying to boost SoTC will be favored, but if no one else is looking for that, I'll just send them to new players.

    (there will probably be some delay- the draw just isn't happening.)

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    1/5/2016
    I suggest following the "Making your Name" storylines, because they have useful rewards along the way.

    Don't pay for any Routes (except for Mahogany Hall) because the Making your Name stories unlock all of the paths as you follow the stories.

    Aim to get your stats to 100 each. Don't neglect any.

    The Townhouse has an option later in game that is very useful for players who are above 100 in each stat.

    I'm doing Heart's Desire, too. I'm enjoying it.

    Save about 10,000 Rosygold, because you will need it. However, don't go out of your way to grind it, because you will get it during the course of the Making Your Name stories.
    edited by th8827 on 1/5/2016

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    1/5/2016
    Alfred_Bloodwine wrote:
  • Thanks th8827, ill def keep hitting the making your name hard then, I had stalled on part of it with the Raid on Hells Embassy because I wasn't sure which faction was better to align with, and since I have 6 connections to hell and 13 with the constables I wasn't sure if I should try and take advantage of one of those reps before I tank it.
  • Yeah im definitely trying to balance my stats so the transition from 1 stat at 100 to all 4 there wont be too long, watchful soared ahead cos of my current profession (when do you get the weekly profession boost, is there a set day for everyone or does it go off when you first subbed?)
  • Good to know there are some posi benefits to the townhouse, how would you suggest grinding/prioritising the romantic notions (I only have about 12% of them atm)?

  • I would say, personally- there's not many easy grinding options for romantic notions in the neath, and prisoner's honey is, honestly, almost worse. keep your eyes open, hold on to both, and upcraft every 500 prisoner's honey -> 105 romantic notions. alternatrively, the clay secrets card gives 10 per time you use its action. pooor epa lategame, but worthwhile for now.


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    Don't feel as if you have to get the townhouse early, though. Everyone is right in that it can be very useful later on, but this is only towards the mid-end-game (if that term can even be used for FL...). So don't worry about it yet, especially since you already have a 3-carder. By the time a townhouse may be useful, you probably can head to places where getting Romantic notions is easier (still not very efficient, but reasonably better).

    Also, feel free to send any of us nightmare requests or ask for healing if you happen to require any! We'll trade if we can. (Feel free to send Sestina some; her menaces should be under control for now.)
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  • Thanks Sestina, I really appreciate, and I might very take you up on that offer sometime soon since im putting together an expedition to the forgotten quarter, luckily since I have a fair way to go til I get a stat to 100 I don't have to worry about laudanum addiction yet.
  • I haven't really got a handle on the multi player aspect of the game yet, I think ill do a fair bit more lurking on the forums so I get a better handle on how it works before I go bothering more experienced players too much, its hard to know what the unspoken rules of etiquette are, and one wouldn't wish to be gauche.


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    And now, the charge to 5-card lodgings begins... the Wicket is going to be very crowded.

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    1/6/2016
    Your Professional Pay arrives with Time the Healer, which is on the weekly anniversary of when you started playing. The reward that you get is related to your profession. The beginning jobs (Enquirer, Minor Poet, Pickpocket, and Tough) give a lot of CP for their trait, until you reach level 70 in that trait. Once you do, I suggest changing jobs (You have to quit, then accept a job from one of the faction cards).

    I suggest keeping the Day 12 card in your hand until Time the Healer, to see if you are Snowbound. If so, you can either pay 30 Fate for 1 Taste of Lacre and a nice Home Comfort item (those are hard to get at your stage of the game, and pretty rare late game, too), or shovel snow for a bucket. If you get Snowbound, betray Mr. Sacks and use the last bucket to get Taste of Lacre to 3, then get one of the three 3 Lacre houses. They block City Vice cards from appearing, making them useful to live in during the early game. If you are not Snowbound, then I suggest helping him, since you won't be able to enter the Wicket.

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    If I might, I'd still love to join. A bit higher level, but willing to help out.

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    Corprustie wrote:
    So sorry for begging of you once more my worshipful ones, but I'm at the stage of the Affair of the Box that I think is referred to as the classic 'carousel' -- grinding "A Boxful of Intrigue" to be cashed in once it reaches 13. I wonder, what's the consequence of the "D_mnable Box" storylet that seems to advance the story? Does it, or any further stage of the story, permanently or temporarily bar you from the carousel?




    You keep grinding that value but do not turn in the reward (choose the other storyette option there when Intrigue is high enough,) until you make a choice between two Masters or exposing them both.


    Afterwards, you get a reward/loss from the Master's connection and some Searing Enigmas. Then, as long as you don't switch sides and go Turncoat too often (here is where you get rid of that,) you can grind the Box carousel ad nauseum, collecting the rewards of Intrigue as much as you wish. Stick with the People's side is it also gives you Correspondence Plaques on its success or failure.
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    1. how do I keep track of all the personal actions, goals, plans etc? is there any in-game-opportunity? Because right now i am writing stuff on scraps of paper and they are everywhere...
    Use the 'bookmark' like option on storylets to mark them as a plan. Under your Plans tab, you'll be able to put in comments to help you figure out what you're doing (particularly if you're building up to something)
    2. I was wondering if you would recommend to give in to the menaces (prison etc) in the early game to gain any benefits that it might bring (for example the repentant forger)? or is it a thing i should generally avoid?

    People do have different opinions on this, but I'll give you mine. The menace reducing potions work better when you're not a POSI, so it is a little easier to let up on them. I spent more than my fair share of time trying to avoid going to those areas though, so it does take time to reduce menaces on your own: I didn't head to any of the menace areas until I was a POSI, actually. With the exception of the Forger, an option for the Labyrinth of Tigers, and some ambitions (which you'll find out clearly), there's not a need to go there.

    Concerning each area: I'd say that the Mirror Marshes are interesting but you'll want Memories of Light to avoid the Royal Beth and losing your Dreams progress (as it's slow to gain). Assuming you were here for the Advent calendar, you should have a horsehead amulet which will allow you to avoid A Slow Boat once. The slow boat is interesting enough (though don't try playing chess unless you've a fairly good watchful score). At the Tomb Colonies you might even find something valuable (but I feel, perhaps wrongly, this takes the second longest to get out of)

    But, New Newgate, as you observe is the trickiest. Multiple trips there should definitely be avoided, but having the Forger as an acquaintance is particularly useful. Criminal Favours are hard to come by without opportunity cards from companions you probably can't afford, so knowing him is very helpful. I wouldn't go there all the time, but going once to find him is definitely worth it (there is a way to go without increasing your record, though).

    3. what do the dreams mean i keep having?

    Don't worry too much about dreams for now - and feel free to discard them if you're having trouble with nightmares. They're bits of story which are interesting but don't have as much use until you're either in the Mirror Marshes or much further along in the game in the Cave of the Nadir.

    4. do you know any source of greyfields 1882 in the early game?

    Errr. No. but I'm not really good on these types of questions!

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    1/12/2016
    Edt: Ah, sorry, mostly preempted by Parelle's excellent advice smile


    Greetings to you smile

    1. If you press the little bookmark shaped tab in the top of each action option, called 'Mark this choice as a plan', you can put a note for it in the Plans tab. Here it will list all the requirements needed to follow that part of a story. You can also write notes for yourself there. I find it is very helpful to keep track of everything.

    2.For everything except Newgate, as suinicide said, I would say yes. (But of course try not die if that concerns you RP wise about not being able to return to the surface). It is worth going at least once to each of the menace areas for the writing alone. For Nightmares, make sure you have a Memory of Light in you inventory first, so that you go to the Mirror Marches and not the Royal Bethlehem. As going to the Beth will eat away at your various Dreams. Also don't take the option in the Marches that sends you over to the Beth. The Mirror Marches only take away 'Is Someone There?' when you leave them. You will probably want to go to New Newgate again eventually to find the Repentant Forger, but I recommend you do that by failing a Brass Embassy Heist when you reach the FIit as that won't give you a criminal record.


    3. The Dreams will keep on coming in the card deck whatever you do. The writing for them is brilliant! So why wouldn't you want them?? smile The values in each play off each other eventually to unlock new branches on the Dream cards, so I think it is worth building them up. [spoiler] Especially if you want to have a personal encounter with a mostly dead dragon-god. [/spoiler]


    4.Can I ask how much are looking for/ what do you need it for? We might be able to offer more advice smile

    I hope some of that helps smile


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    Alright... I am now the proud owner of a velocipede... for some reason...

    What should I do BEFORE taking the leap??

    Clear all menaces, I guess.... what else? Will I lose access to anything I am working on? (whatever those may be)

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    12/31/2015
    You shouldn't lose anything, including your current Making Waves (whatever it is).

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    Welcome to the club. If you have any questions, we would be happy to help.

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    12/12/2015
    th8827 wrote:

    To add onto that, yesterday's Favors from High Places is a similar item. You will need several to get the POSI items, they are expensive to make, and are hard to get elsewhere.
  • Not really. You can make them in batches of 5 for their sale value in compromising documents (4 actions to upconvert, requires great game connections, and may return echoes, or even a rare success that doubles your money, returning whatever the cash value of the items you upcrafted were in other items, in addition to the usual items), or, with twice as many echoes straight up buy the correspondences to go through the upcraft chain.
  • Unlike the book of hidden bodies, they sell for about as much as their components would sell for, and you can turn a profit from the conversions if you have the items already. Yes, they are valuable, but they're far cheaper, and return a value close to what they cost to make, unlike the book of hidden bodies, which is 6 echoes for 60 in supplies.

  • The only thing i should add is that you should always hesitate to sell anything, but if you must sell, sell the 12.5 or 62.5 echo items that're availible from upcrafting first. (at least, if you're not up for a wiki binge. some items are going to be neccessary and quite hard to get as needed. others are going to be easier. That said, certain items are vendor fodder or worse. trembling amber, for instance, has no uses, and both the headful of picareque tales and the blue and shining stone cost you access to the card you drew them on, while serving no purpose.) they're common enough that if you need another, you can get it, but rare enough that you'll be paid well for them, and most minor storylets won't cost you in them. It's also worth noting, though- the value of money will decrease as you progress, so selling at a small loss can be okay. (if it's more than 10%, and you'll use the money to your immideate benefit, it can be worth it. Can, not will, but also can not won't.)

  • for instance, once i hesitated to spend 60 echoes to upgrade my gear, but now i'm hesitating to spend... 11712.8 echoes for a gear upgrade. That was a mere 13 months of gameplay, too. By the time you need it, getting your hands on it might be easier. it also might not. if you want an impossible theorem, you might want to stock up on enigmas now- but you also might be better served by improving your gear so you can clear expeditions faster, and progress through the normal game with less losses to failures. The same is true for airaig with the master's blood.

  • Not for anything that you can make or buy, though. if it's just echoes to get more, don't hesitate to sell unless it's a substantial markup to replace. At least, that's my opinion. Otherwise, i wouldn't be spending 20 echoes to get 12.5 that i can send to new players. Your present self needs money more than your future self will.

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    12/12/2015
    That was the consensus upthread. It pays to read the stuff that came before!

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    12/12/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    Their value depends on how much capital you have already. If you're poor and just starting as a PoSI, it takes a while to grind the materials to make Blackmail Material, and you have 60 other things you want to do. If you're a seasoned vet with ten thousand echoes in stuff, then it is relatively easy to come up with the Blackmail Material, and you've probably done most of the stuff twice over.

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    Yes, but at the same time, there's not a ton of uses for blackmail material, and the same is even truer for the items you'd sell in their place. It's up to you how much you hoard, of course, but if you're selling stuff, you should start with the duplicate 12.5 echo items. Assuming you don't do the cat and mouse (which has horrible returns anyways, if you're using your blackmail materials there), you won't need more than 5 blackmail materials through the majority of the game, and even then- the other items you'd have for it are worth more. It's roughly as hard to get 62.5 echoes in jade, and to get 62.5 echoes in favors in high places- but while one's easier to replace, it's also more likely you'll need it later.

    Plus, the 4th teir is especially easy, because if you're at a point where you have enough to upcraft, you can upcraft anything to get what you want.

    Yes, when you're poor, it'll take a while- but imo, if you're not going to be a posi really soon, it's still better to wait- most posi items aren't worth the rush, after all.

    The must-haves are as follows:

    God's editors: 4 BDR and a 1.48 epa action that pays out in proscribed materials. costs a measly 30 echoes in collated research, if you have a book from the empress. if you don't- it costs 50 echoes, with 20 in foxfire candles. It's cheap and will fill your slot for a while, and if you're getting into the notability grind, it's a quite viable discount.

    A ship- the tramp steamer, specifically. it costs quite a bit even so- a small fortune >200 echoes in various items- but it's worth it. it's a down payment on the other ship too, since most of that price is the ship-permits. If you must get only one item- get this one. it'll actually unlock new content, while the rest is pretty much just gear to be aquired at your leisure.

    home comfort- nope. a +1 peice of gear isn't worth 120 echoes to you yet, or if it is, not until you've finished the rest. And that's the cheaper comfort.

    A club: either one is quite pricey, but the young stags is cheaper. you'll need 3 personall recomendations, 1 favors in high places, and 2 wine cellars. Conversely, if you must go with the parthenaum, it'll cost 3 personal reccomendations, 2 books of hidden bodies, and a favors in high places.

    (this will set you up with 1-of-each slot, which will be good enough for now.)

    If you want to start stockpiling in advance, heres what you'll need, sorted by importance:

    Ship: (27 echoes- to buy strong-backed labor. 1 bazaar permit, 1 favors in high places, 1 master theif- with rainbow of gifts, that'd be enough to get a ship, 100 relics of the third city. ) Total cost: 150 (highest cash-in value of rainbow of gifts replacement cost) + 25+10 = 185 echoes.

    God's Editors: ([1 tale of anything but the future from the empress' court (it won't cost the item) or 2000 foxfire candles and 20 connected bohemian], 20 connected church, 20 collated research.) total cost = 30~50 echoes

    Club: (1 favors in high places, [2 cellars of wines or 2x book of hidden bodies], 18 stolen kisses, 450 intruiging snippets, 90 compromising documents) 180+37.5 echoes for the young stags, 180+132.5 for the parthenaum.

    Home comfort: really? really? if you must... 135 echoes to buy strong backed labor for a basalt gymnasium- or, better, go for midnighter career.

    I suppose a favors in high places might be worth holding onto for the club, but it also might not, and i wouldn't if. It's just 25x stolen kisses to make 5, after all, and you're already spending a small fortune to get the club at that point.
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    12/12/2015
    A clay sedan - 7 Strongbacked labour, 1 bazaar permit, and 100 foxfire candles. About 180 echoes total. This card may be useful if you want to change some of your quirks. +2 BDR

    A respectable landau. You have two ways to get this and neither of them are fun. It does have a decently profitable card though, +2 BDR.

    Option 1: 3 books of hidden bodies, 1 favour in high places, 2 comprehensive bribes.

    Option 2: 5 books of hidden bodies, and 20 connected great game and society.

    Edit: There is also the velocipede, which is absolutely necessary. Costs one strongbacked labour and one bazaar permit. No BDR
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    12/12/2015
    Rysiek wrote:
    I have another question: I can create a sense of Déja Vu, to pursue the story of the fidgeting writer. But the other option has a profit of 500% (2,50 £ instead of 0,50 £) Will it disappear if I pursue the writer?

    Yes. fidgetting writer keeps getting better the higher you climb, though, all the way up to a 312.5 echo item at the top. I'm told it has good EPA too. Though if you're considering getting the landau, you should stop at the one that offers a comprehensive bribe twice, since you'll need two. (the same is true if you want a newspaper [1] or a yacht, though the latter is going to require between 5-10 if you're of average luck)
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    12/12/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    I had a question about Home Comforts anyway, to whit: can you have more than one of them, or are they mutually exclusive as clubs are. It's not something I'm looking for immediately, but I do want to keep it in mind. I guess there's a second, related question, too, which is where does the option turn up to assemble a home comfort? I don't recall seeing it.
    Your list of PoSI items could also include a Newspaper: 1 Favour, 1 Bribe, and 1 Recommendation to get the premises, and then a Whirling Contraption (at least) later. Another thing on the back burner.
    In some ways, I feel like the ship is lower priority than some of the BDR stuff. Depends on how you want to play, I guess. I haven't even opened the Labyrinth or Mahogany Hall, yet, but I'm still swimming in content I've barely explored (and let's not talk about the Fate stories). The ship opens up even more areas to explore. It's easy to lose focus. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, either.

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    Well, yeah, but the ship opens up options, and is a neccessity for any ambition. I'm listing the must-haves here. everything else can wait. the newspaper is useless, honestly, unless you get a vast quantity of whirring contraptions for no reason- or really want a +1 persuasive. (60 echoes for up to 80 echoes, but with 17 actions. impressive epa if you already have excess whirring contraptions, but then, you already spent 60 echoes for it at some point.) Or unless you like that quality. I do, but if you're not getting it for roleplay, or personal hoarding quest, you could find a better use for the money.

    I also didn't list the gang of criminals, which is far more useful- which still doesn't mean it's very much so. It is a source of criminal favors, though.

    The below has some deck thinning sentiment within, and also regret that i cannot sell or destroy certain items. if you don't care to optimize your deck, ignore this:

    The other items are, in some way, less worthwhile. I would recommend only getting the landau, or the clay sedan, not both- their cards aren't good enough to justify having both. The landau clutters your deck with average-to-medioce cards with uninteresting text.

    You don't get much from god's editors card either, though it is a semi-reliable source of proscribed material. Still, If you already have the salon/orphanage, it's probably not worth getting, and should be regarded accordingly. The main reason i recoomend getting it is because buying proscribed material is very pricey, and the god's editors is much cheaper and easier than the orphanage/salon. It gives good returns, even if not great ones.

    The basalt gymnasium has a decent training option, but the voluminous library is just another 1.58 epa card- might be worth having for some people, but i'd rather not draw the card. I only bought it for the watchful +1. once dangerous hits 200, the gymnasium will be the same- just another card clogging up my deck.

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    12/12/2015
    I definitely wouldn't recommend buying Whirring Contraptions for the Newspaper when you can get them through Wilmot's End. The EPA still isn't great (1.35 epa at best), but if you're interested in getting those qualities up I would go the Wilmot End route.
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    12/9/2015
    lady ciel wrote:
    Getting kicked out of he University happens after you have set up your own department and investigated a murder. .


    Right. You can't miss the fact you're going to get kicked out, thankfully. The trickiest thing is that isn't so obvious that getting "back in" only restores a pale shadow of the wonders of the university. I don't begrudge finishing that storyline - I love Zee voyages and if I ever buy enough fate for it, Flute Street is probably one of the two places I'm headed. But I miss the University some times!

    edit: read the truthseeker's post immediately below as well for more details and clarity - if you finish the case in either form you will lose access to the main part of the University.
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    Parelle wrote:
    lady ciel wrote:
    Getting kicked out of he University happens after you have set up your own department and investigated a murder. .


    Right. You can't miss the fact you're going to get kicked out, thankfully. The trickiest thing is that isn't so obvious that getting "back in" only restores a pale shadow of the wonders of the university. I don't begrudge finishing that storyline - I love Zee voyages and if I ever buy enough fate for it, Flute Street is probably one of the two places I'm headed. But I miss the University some times!




    For new players: There are two options on said investigation. Both options-whether you get kicked out or not-end the University carousel in any and all forms. (The first carousel was pre-department and is gone once you start yours. The second one was for the investigative purposes, but can also be used for other things if you do not progress it to the point it is gone.) Whether you get kicked out or not is the "side" you choose on reporting on the murder. You may still go Solving Cases around London and may still go Embarking on a Voyage of Scientific Discovery after you finish the University no matter if you get kicked out or not (but the booted must use the latter to restore their status if they so wish to use any remaining features at the university.)
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    Grenem wrote:
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    Greetings, all. A relative newcomer to the Neath here (arrived too late to extract Hallowmas confessions, but still in time to gain a Destiny from the afterparty), seeking new acquaintances and novel experiences.

    You should find a package of coins in your mailbox shortly, though should does not in fact mean will. Hopefully it does this time, though. Spend them wisely.


    Indeed I have received it. The postm--, er, postwom--, er, yes, has proved more reliable than one expected them to be. My sincere thanks for the package.

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    I've decided to list my "hidden" alt, aptly named Nigel Throwaway for New player equal footing needs here. He's a few days old and you can use him for all your Pre-PoSI needs. (I plan on not advancing him, and keeping him as a pre-PoSI test subject, but this also is subject to change.) It's ironic my newly-created alts a few weeks ago (Brutus, Nobby) are ready to become PoSI themselves already.

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    12/10/2015
    Good roofing to you all. I'm a long-time zee-captain that decided to live in London for some time to gather enough secrets for my song, but I seem to have been entangled in more messes than I can a capella out of. If a certain desighted someone asks for me, sound him the other way.

    I promise not to send rats, if only because I know what'll happen to them if the package gets lost.

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    12/9/2015
    I paid cash for my townhouse (well, paid stuff for the honey to upconvert). Not the most efficient method, but it was my first objective. Got it before I was even in the game for two weeks.
    Congratulations, Grenem! Young Turks take note!

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 12/9/2015

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    12/9/2015
    Greetings, all. A relative newcomer to the Neath here (arrived too late to extract Hallowmas confessions, but still in time to gain a Destiny from the afterparty), seeking new acquaintances and novel experiences.

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    12/9/2015
    Morcant wrote:
    Greetings, all. A relative newcomer to the Neath here (arrived too late to extract Hallowmas confessions, but still in time to gain a Destiny from the afterparty), seeking new acquaintances and novel experiences.

    You should find a package of coins in your mailbox shortly, though should does not in fact mean will. Hopefully it does this time, though. Spend them wisely.

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    12/9/2015
    I fear the server may be melting down again. Anyone else having s-l-o-w times?

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    th8827
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    12/15/2015
    To advance your name, you have to keep making works until you are given the chance to make an Opera. Then, after you finish it, you will be kicked out. If you turn down the option to do the Opera, you can pick a normal work, to prolong your time in court.

    I recommend making one novel, Tales of the Future, to make getting a Zubmarine easier, and one Poem or Novel besides the previous one, to make getting into God's Editors easier. Don't show God's Editors the Tales from the Future, unless you want bad things to happen.

    Besides that, spam the complicated Symphony for easy Scholar of the Correspondence points (get your first two level ups of SotC from the carnival), because you can easily level it up here, but it is very costly/complicated to level up elsewhere. You need to finish the Tomb of Seven Expedition before you can do that, though.

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    12/15/2015
    Kaigen wrote:
    If you don't have a pressing need to get SotC to 10, you can always flip cards in the Bazaar Sidestreets and open surprise packages for the occasional boost from The Skin of the Bazaar or by drawing "Something perilous" from a bundle.

    Otherwise, SotC up to 10 without fate is a long slog, but at least if you do it with symphonies in Court you get a payout instead of paying through the nose at the University.

    On the flipside- paying through the noise at the university is really fast. I went from 7 to 10 in a single day, and could have kept going, if it were worthwhile. though i would reccomend doing it at the court- because the university requires boosted watchful 200 to reach 10.

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    12/15/2015
    I just got my Archaeology up to 3, so I can confirm that a trip to the Thief's Cache and two trips to the Shrine of the Deep Blue will do it.

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    12/15/2015
    Michile wrote:
    I just got my Archaeology up to 3, so I can confirm that a trip to the Thief's Cache and two trips to the Shrine of the Deep Blue will do it.


    I finally worked my through it all..... now a guest lecturer at Benthic with a SotC at 3.... <whew>

    Now back to some easy stuff for a bit.... like hunting dangerous beasts!

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    12/16/2015
    Random question:
    Who here wants their soul back and/or is seeking SOTC 10, and would like some help with that? please PM me. (surprise packages have a 1 in 1008 chance of the recovery of a soul, and a 1 in 110 of 1 point SOTC.)

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    12/12/2015
    Boofny wrote:
    I'm a new player requesting entrance to this helpful circle of friends. My profile is in my signature. Thank you! smile


    Welcome, delicious friend. This group of folks really are a great help, not just for new players, but new PoSI players, and ancient players, as well Toast

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    12/12/2015
    Grenem wrote:
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    I definitely wouldn't recommend buying Whirring Contraptions for the Newspaper when you can get them through Wilmot's End. The EPA still isn't great (1.35 epa at best), but if you're interested in getting those qualities up I would go the Wilmot End route.

    I would buy them if you have the supplies already- 1 whirring contraption is 4 dramatic tension (since you get them at the end of the wilmot's end carosel with lv. 2 tension), which in turn means 3 whirring contraptions is 4 collections of curiosities, or about 83 and a third echoes each that way. it's still a more effective route than just buying the wax/beetles from the bazaar, though not by much.


    Ah, I see. I personally have a stockpile of Collections of Curiosities, so I don't really feel like I'm losing anything when I use Dramatic Tension for other things. The Tomb-Colonists show up in their own time.

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    12/12/2015
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    Grenem wrote:
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    I definitely wouldn't recommend buying Whirring Contraptions for the Newspaper when you can get them through Wilmot's End. The EPA still isn't great (1.35 epa at best), but if you're interested in getting those qualities up I would go the Wilmot End route.

    I would buy them if you have the supplies already- 1 whirring contraption is 4 dramatic tension (since you get them at the end of the wilmot's end carosel with lv. 2 tension), which in turn means 3 whirring contraptions is 4 collections of curiosities, or about 83 and a third echoes each that way. it's still a more effective route than just buying the wax/beetles from the bazaar, though not by much.


    Ah, I see. I personally have a stockpile of Collections of Curiosities, so I don't really feel like I'm losing anything when I use Dramatic Tension for other things. The Tomb-Colonists show up in their own time.

    Yes, and i agree with the sentiment, but i don't think it's a good example for the young turks, who almost definitely don't have that kind of stockpile. even so, the collations of research option is 40 echoes for 3 points dramatic tension, which makes it roughly equally viable. If you'd be going out of your way, wilmot's end is better, but if you already had the stuff, buying from the bazaar is simpler and going through the cycle doesn't save you much.
    edited by Grenem on 12/12/2015
    edited by Grenem on 12/12/2015

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    12/12/2015
    Yeah, I did mostly bring it up for those wanting to build up the qualities. For the text I see the benefit of just getting it out of the way - I think the only times I bought a Whirring Contraptions in the Side-Streets was when I needed them for POSI items because I wanted them sooner rather than later. I think I even had to buy some beetles for my main to become a POSI - Phosphorescent Scarabs were hard to come by then (though the Whirring Contraption only needed 200 at the time). It's easier now, though I still only have 130 on hand at the moment.
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    12/14/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    Re the Silent Soul, I'd say compose yourself in patience, unless you really need the 70 bucks. OTOH, if you're not likely to be trying to upgrade a 4-card lodging to a 5-card (which should be true of most of the Young Turks, who aren't PoSI), you'll have lacre to spare, and the 70 quid is a nice windfall.

    -- Mal

    Though the de gustibus storylet will pay 50 echoes for the snow alone, so it's not that worthwhile. It does mention something interesting about the legal status of souls, though
    edited by Grenem on 12/14/2015

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    12/16/2015
    @ John: not really, I have no patrons. They "only" contribute about one full stat point per visit, anyway, and you spend a free evening to see them. But social actions, and spending lots of the resultant Second Chances on stat boosts, they add up fast.

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    Sestina Valdis
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    12/16/2015
    I think you need to do that with the dog's card, unfortunately. ._.

    This might be helpful, although I think you already know about many/all of the options there:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fallenlondon/comments/3o39hn/best_way_to_gain_favourscriminals/

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    12/16/2015
    John Savage wrote:


    I did side with the Cheery Man, of course! So once I have ditched my Canine (why is it that all the pets I name, I lose? Charlotte.... I'm looking at you here :P ) will I have to wait for a card to get another Rendezvous?


    Peers out from under duvet cover...


    You should put the names in the registry John, we'll track them all down eventually.

    - Also I think I remember people will need to agree to plot against the Masters if they don't favour the Cheery Man and want to be an Enforcer.
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/16/2015

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    12/16/2015
    navchaa wrote:
    Grenem - are you looking specifically for non-PoSI/Young Turks? If it's a surprise package exchange, I think the general sentiment is that they won't want to spare 10 echoes every few cards. I remember discarding the Give a Gift! card many times earlier in the game as I simply couldn't afford even to send second chances, let alone rats or echoes.

    Right now I'm a fairly seasoned PoSI (so not quite Janissary, sadly) and I've only recently been rolling in the dough enough to afford sending surprise packages as and when. smile

    But I'm intrigued, because I've just sold my soul and am not sure if there are non-fate options beyond surprise packages that give it back.

    Back on topic for Young Turks - I really wish I'd not gone crazy trying to grind everything and get to PoSI at the soonest possible. Fallen London is such a vast world, it's nice to take your time and not do the most efficient thing. Even now, after about 5 months of PoSI-hood, I still haven't done quite a lot of content and I don't feel like I'm losing out - because that's all waiting for me some candles later. One reason why this game has longevity for me is that I don't feel like I'm missing out if I rush, and it doesn't require me to spend ages and ages grinding for something if I don't want to. My advice for all, whether Young Turk or Janissary - don't rush, enjoy the ride. We're stuck in the Neath, so it's about the journey and not the ending, for there is none!


    Grenem wrote:
    Random question:
    Who here wants their soul back and/or is seeking SOTC 10, and would like some help with that? please PM me. (surprise packages have a 1 in 1008 chance of the recovery of a soul, and a 1 in 110 of 1 point SOTC.)

    Its not an exchange. someone gave me a gift, but there's nothing of equivalent value i can give them in-game, so i'm passing it on to people I can, instead. It'll be a gift for anyone who's interested, though given SOTC odds, i'll favor SOTC seekers.
    edited by Grenem on 12/16/2015

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    12/16/2015
    Michile wrote:
    I'll admit it is a rather indelicate question, but how do I stop the honey-sipping heiress from being infatuated with me? It seems whatever I do, the story drops to level 2, but doesn't go away. And the wiki shows a choice to "end it" that doesn't occur when am at that level. Confusing!
    edited by Michile on 12/16/2015


    Unfortunately, I don't think there is an option to "end it" permanently. I think that "ending it" does not close off the story-- correct me if I'm wrong. But you can just leave the heiress pining there for-ever. She won't bother you! She's much too busy dreaming... You -can- "end it" with other lovers, though, like the Rising Artist's Model and the Jewel Thief. But not the Heiress, to my knowledge-- which is a bit odd, since the jewel thief is her companion.

    (Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but currently my experience on two chars suggests this.)


    Also, thanks for the offer, Grenem, but I'm good!

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    12/16/2015
    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    Michile wrote:
    I'll admit it is a rather indelicate question, but how do I stop the honey-sipping heiress from being infatuated with me? It seems whatever I do, the story drops to level 2, but doesn't go away. And the wiki shows a choice to "end it" that doesn't occur when am at that level. Confusing!
    edited by Michile on 12/16/2015


    Unfortunately, I don't think there is an option to "end it" permanently. I think that "ending it" does not close off the story-- correct me if I'm wrong. But you can just leave the heiress pining there for-ever. She won't bother you! She's much too busy dreaming... You -can- "end it" with other lovers, though, like the Rising Artist's Model and the Jewel Thief. But not the Heiress, to my knowledge-- which is a bit odd, since the jewel thief is her companion.

    (Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but currently my experience on two chars suggests this.)


    Also, thanks for the offer, Grenem, but I'm good!


    Yeah.... still sitting there for me too.... always waiting for me come back with some more of that delicious honey! LOL

    I'm wondering when the "You can't sleep for hunger" is ever going to become an issue.... because otherwise I'm good with it

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    12/16/2015
    I have a lion to hunt in the Tomb Colonies, so if anyone needs to reduce Scandal, feel free to send it to me.

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    12/17/2015
    navchaa wrote:
    Ah... Charlotte, you are hilarious! No offence taken at all (especially since I think it's still not possible to directly transfer echoes between players)!


    It is, but only slowly and ineffectually. 10 inklings of identity and a favors-criminals for 6 first city coins, ~20 echoes in goods for 1 cp connected masters for 50 first city coins, 5 warm amber with connected rubbery men 5 for 6 first city coins. My coins aren't comming as soon as i'd like, though...

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    12/17/2015
    Um, sorry, but what do you mean by joining? Does that mean I had to apply to join before posting hereWhaaaaa? ? Damnupset

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    I apologize for any and all anachronisms. I am too lazy to check some facts if I am sure they are from the 1890s or sometimes think they are.

    Oh, and by the way, I am not polish, I am GERMAN to clarify for heavens sake... tylko po polsku mowie. Um Himmelswillen...
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    12/17/2015
    No, to post is to join. We're very easy-going about that. The idea is to use the links provided to make social contacts in-game with other players, which is why you should add your Profile link to your signature.

    -- Mal

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    12/17/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    @Hepzibah: everyone is welcome in the Young Turks, however there is another group devoted to early PoSI concerns, the Janissary Guard. But many of us participate in both, so feel free to hang out with either or both.

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 12/17/2015



    I am a recent arrival at the Jannisary Guard as well (and you have welcomed me warmely). But belt/suspenders, you know?
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    12/18/2015
    Welcome to the club, new members. If you have any questions, or need any menace reductions, just let us know.

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    12/18/2015
    I'm . . . sort of new, I suppose? I think I've been playing for maybe 2 weeks, but I've been mostly avoiding all the social/communication aspects because I was figuring things out. Anyway, if I'm still considered new, I'd like to join.

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    12/18/2015
    Damascus wrote:
    I'm . . . sort of new, I suppose? I think I've been playing for maybe 2 weeks, but I've been mostly avoiding all the social/communication aspects because I was figuring things out. Anyway, if I'm still considered new, I'd like to join.

    Well, anyone is welcome. It'll be a bit before your welcoming gift arrives- i've kinda fallen behind on connected:masters, and criminal favors are slower to get the gifts.

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    12/19/2015
    Yay John!!! Thumbs Up - 'Bill Sykes ain't got d--m on Me!" boxer (NSFW)


    Also a big welcome to the new Young Turks!



    John Savage wrote:
    Ladies, gentlemen, rubbery men, snuffers, and assorted [gendertitles]...

    I thank you for all your help.... I am 6 minutes from being the Fifth City's newest Enforcer!

    I have been drawing patiently... writing a few works and catching a few dangerous beesties in the meantime... I got the card allowing me to do a little piracy yesterday.... and just now I got my ol' pal, the Repentant Forger to let me come by....

    At last!!

    EDIT: Froot
    edited by John Savage on 12/19/2015
    edited by John Savage on 12/19/2015

    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/19/2015

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    12/19/2015
    Or... send any Suspicious Loitering requests to me! I'm not bothered with losing my Connected: Society or Making Waves at the moment, and I want to cap out Shadowy next wink

    th8827 wrote:
    Suspicious Loitering drops Connected:Society, so only do that if neither you or your friend has (or values) that connection... and Connected:Society is pretty valuable for POSI.



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    navchaa
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    12/21/2015
    You'll need to use the docks-urchins conflict card. It comes out fairly often for me. First, grind Docks to 20 using the Pewter Tankard, then favour the docks in the docks-urchins conflict card, then raise Urchins at the Carnival or using the Rookery Password when it falls too low. Rinse and repeat till you get it high enough.

    It takes a while, and the Acacia/Butterfly card has only appeared once for me in the past three months or so.


    th8827 wrote:
    Another question. Is there a reliable, non-Fate way to earn Connected: Docks that does not require cards? I want to get it to 30 to use the Widow and Dock conflict card.


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    NiteBrite
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    12/22/2015
    Hey young Turks, does anyone have a guide on how to raise SoTC to 10 for new players? I can't remember how it works these days and it's a fairly common early game question.

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    dov
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    12/22/2015
    There's some info here:
    http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3AA_Scholar_of_the_Correspondence

    It's not detailed (i.e not a standalone guide), but contains links to the relevant wiki pages for each option.

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    malthaussen
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    12/22/2015
    @Nitebrite: in brief: ride the Ferris Wheel at the Carnival to 3, snoop around the FQ (Finding Curios) until SotC is 7 (opportunity comes up about 10% of the time, based on Airs), then write 27 symphonies at Court. That will also generate quite a lot of Echoes. Net time ~two weeks @80 actions/day (saves a little for other business).
    One can also try Research at the University (to 7) in terms 9-11, but that is a rare success, probably less than 10%, and not as rewarding as the Quarter.
    For writing symphonies, Persuasive needs to be modified 167 to have a 100% chance at a 15 CP result (The Lead) at CL 100. So, 20 actions to write the symphony, plus two to start and finish. So if one had that much Persuasive, it would probably take a day less to just write symphonies for all the points after 3. If one has a LOT of honey, there is a CL108 option that requires 25 honey a shot. But that's obviously not cost-effective if one has not already got the honey to hand.

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    Kaigen
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    12/22/2015
    In a little more detail:

    Raising SotC from 1 to 3 is best done at the Carnival, using the "What's That" option on Beneath the Neath. It costs two Carnival Tickets and gives you 2 Appalling Secrets and +1 CP SotC, so do it five times and you'll hit 3.

    Once you're at 3, the best way to get up to 7 is probably "Look for more evidence of the Correspondence in the ruins" from Seeking Curios and Secrets in the Forgotten Quarter. It is only available based on the Airs of the Forgotten Quarter, so there will be some necessary flipping through other options to get it to come up each time. Likely side effects: Lots of Nightmares, lots of Whispered Secrets, and a good chance you'll walk away with multiple Eyeless Skulls (could be a good thing or bad thing depending on where you sit).

    Once you're at 7, things get trickier. If you have access to the initial Term Passing carousel at the University, you can take your chances with A Merry Wager. It takes something like 39 actions to get Term Passing up to 12 (collecting rewards along the way), and then it's a luck check to see if you get +1 CP or take a massive hit to your University and Church connections. Or, you can compose symphonies at the Empress's Court, picking Somewhat challenging music. This requires 20 to 30 actions (depending on whether you can succeed with The Lead every time), and pays out +1 CP, 3000 Moon Pearls, Connections: Bohemians, and Wounds.

    If you're willing to spend Fate, you can get up to 10 more easily by using an opportunity card associated with a certain animal, but that requires considerable progress in the Labyrinth of Tigers, which is unlikely for a newer player.

    If you are cut off from the University and Court options and will not (or cannot) spend Fate, you can pay through the nose with "Perhaps you can remember something useful," which requires a considerable amount of Correspondence Plaques, Aeolian Screams, and Extraordinary Implications. Or, you can exchange surprise packages and draw cards in Wolfstack in the hopes of pulling "Something Perilous" out of the bundle of oddities from the package or "Grab whatever you can" on the rare Bonfire of the Decencies card, which gives you +1 CP and some Correspondence Plaques.

    Edit: Forgot one additional option: Flip cards in the Bazaar Sidestreets, and you might pull a rare card called "The Skin of the Bazaar" which takes five actions but gives +1 CP and a bunch of Watchful CP. Obviously, you need to be a PoSI (or very nearly so) to access this option.

    Raising SotC above 10 is generally only accomplished through "Perhaps you can remember something useful," but to my knowledge there aren't any significant uses for SotC values above 10 aside from a personal feeling of accomplishment.
    edited by Kaigen on 12/22/2015

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    Parelle
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    12/22/2015
    From having just raised my SOTC to 10:

    - I've traded 20+ bundles in the last two months. I've gotten Something Perilous only 3 times, and one of those after I hit 10 already. I can't recommend this as a method.
    - a present from the solitary Glim Sculptor is how I got to 7, and is available once you finish his case post-University. The card is practically frequent in my deck, so it's a lot more reliable than the FQ.
    - you cannot get the Bazaar side streets without being a POSI, and that card really is rare! I've been hunting for awhile without finding it
    - for Perhaps you remember something, the level of Watchful you need to reach SOTC 10 is pretty high - I was in the 160s, modified to 200 and would fail the check.

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    Grenem
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    12/22/2015
    Parelle wrote:
    From having just raised my SOTC to 10:

    - I've traded 20+ bundles in the last two months. I've gotten Something Perilous only 3 times, and one of those after I hit 10 already. I can't recommend this as a method.

    Opening bundles is ofc worthwhile, but trading them for SOTC isn't.

    if some generous freind is sending them unconditionally, though, it returns good epa and 1 point SOTC per ~10 boxes- ~20 actions- (to be precice, 110/1008) It also lets you try for a blemigan pedant (only availible here, 1 in 1008 chance, therefore costs, on average, as much as an overgoat to aquire... except it actually gives some echoes back in the process) and your soul (same odds, if you lack it, of getting it from this.), should you be lacking either.

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    NiteBrite
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    12/22/2015
    infinitestars wrote:
    Hi all, does anyone know of a way for a relatively low level player to get a Night-Whisper? I want to change my Closest To to the Urchins. I've tried using a Tale of Terror to get a Sense of Deja Vu then continuing that story, but it's getting quite expensive for me. I keep getting unlucky on the later storylets and having to start again, it's starting to drive me mad. Thanks in advance!

    If your watchful is at least 60 I believe you can start running expeditions in the forgotten quarter. The Shrine of Blue Heaven gives nightwhispers out as a random reward with a decent frequency, but you may have to run the expedition several times to get one. If you haven't done any expeditions, you will have to do the lower tier ones first to level up your archaeologist quality before you can run the Shrine of Blue Heaven expedition.

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    12/20/2015
    Hi all! I've been gone for a little bit, but took the time to catch up. I've decided to do a "quote dump" in my following reply and just answer multiple replies all at once. Apologies for the future wall of text.


    What I will say before starting that in this post first (after reading all the stuff on stats and professions posted here over several pages) is it's best to keep your basic (or tier 1) professions for (what you will perceive as beginners as) "quite a while" or for up to several weeks each. As a refresher, these are: Thug, Pickpocket, Enquirer, Minor Poet. Keep them until your weekly Professional reward or other activities take that related profession's stats beyond base 70. I know some of you think getting a better profession means better stuff, but if you lack the basic skills, your failing checks won't help with the items you get weekly. Plus, no stat gain for free that all the basic tied-in professions do.
    So, if you were a minor Poet and your stat was below 71, you can get 250 CP of Persuasive even if that reward right then takes you over 71 Persuasive! If it then became base 71 or higher (whether it was the weekly profession's "the artist's reward" or some later between-week skill check's cp,) you should now quit your profession (lodgings-write letters-choose a new profession) then choose a new basic profession that has lower than 71 base stats. So you now could choose an Enquirer if Watchful was base 70 or lower before equipment. Or either the Tough's or Pickpocket's option instead if they had lower than 71 base stats.
    All of this is true no matter what profession and stat it is as long as it's below 71 before taking a basic profession's reward. You could even have a professional reward uncashed, quit your profession, choose a new profession, and get that bump if it were less than 71 for its stat!
    Repeat this for all four professions and stats until all unmodified stats are 71 or higher. At this point you should be ready to adopt a new (on the connection card Tier 2 or T2) profession.
    Building up connection rankings/other factor's values for the new professions beforehand is perfectly fine as long as you are ready to change it meeting either/both of the T2 two path's requirements (and have no profession when you are finally ready to use the option on either drawn card.)
    Not only will you handle stat checks better by building up your stats equally (and not have to halt and backtrack grind one or more stats to 100 for future PoSI gateway entries even with stat-boosting-equipment falling short,) you can hopefully stockpile some basic item resources you will need to start those long-run storyettes that need thousands to ten thousand items to advance (I'm looking at you Hooligans/Rostygold.)


    This also means you don't have to scramble looking for some Mentor with an open slot and occasional Free Evening as your primary grinding of stats and makes the "Making your Name" tasks a lot more feasible in successfully accomplishing raising the values to 5 and accompanying said stats up to 100+ total modified per.


    I will vouch for this. I did it before the hardest way (one stat far ahead, the others much farther behind, required a Mentor and took many additional weeks after I was capped at 71 just to become a PoSI, and no "making your name" options then.) I know how frustrating it can be when you don't even have what little I got before I listed above and were stuck doing mindless grinding. I learned from my own mistakes and made my before-mentioned additional alternates to figure out how to properly teach others what to do what you are reading now.


    So, no need to rush for the profession (you could sometimes wait weeks drawing a card for if not spending Fate or Notability for) if your basic stats are not on par. But by all means, once you outgrow your basic professions, do rush to the next level of Professions!
    Good hunting and congratulations to all those who succeeded in this!
    edited by the truthseeker on 12/20/2015
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    dov
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    12/20/2015
    You can become an Enforcer, and get 1250 rostygold per week.

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    Parelle
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    12/20/2015
    Pretty sure that the various Dueling the Black options pay out in Rostygold (but I can't check as I'm in a Flash Lay).

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    malthaussen
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    12/20/2015
    Right, Parelle, and if you fight the duel to the death it brings in a nice piece of change, ~1500 RG for the Vicar and Inch, e.g. Probably more if you take down the fencing instructor. You can also do the "Take on the Ring Fighters" option in UB in Watchmaker's, but that takes 5 actions and the payout is wildly variable, something like 250-1000.

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    Kaigen
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    12/20/2015
    Dueling in Wolfstack does pay out in Rostygold. If you've moved on to procuring savage beasts, hunting that which walks on two legs also pays out in Rostygold (and if you're as far as the third coil of the Labyrinth of Tigers, you can earn rostygold while building The Hunt is On!"

    If you have access to the initial Term Passing carousel at the University, pursuing the murder mystery storyline pays rostygold.

    If you've got Criminal Favours, you can trade them in one at a time on the Implausible Penance card to drown informants or do bare-knuckle prize fights to earn rostygold.

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    John Savage
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    12/16/2015
    Sestina Valdis wrote:
    John Savage wrote:
    Ugh! So I'm right where I've been for weeks.... waiting for cards..... except I am about to run out of space for cards, requiring me to ditch cards I currently need but can't use.....



    I know it seems easy for me to say this, but don't worry too much about getting what you want in FL, and keep your chin up always! Don't give up (now I sound like a motivational postcard and that's sickening, but I like to think that it's true that one shouldn't give up or be too dejected about things). It will come eventually. And the agonising rarity of the cards just makes the success of things all the more sweeter. It's weird but it always works out in a neat yet perverse, Stockholm syndrome kind of way... In the meantime, perhaps you can look to other goals, or create your own. That's the fun of things in this game. E.g. I know someone who was grinding for exactly 1000 souls as a non-PoSI.

    (Also it's 3am here so, goodnight and GL with things!)


    I guess I am mostly frustrated that this game seems SO easy for everyone else, yet I continue to flail helplessly in the wind.... just like everything else.... RL is so stressful right now that breaking points have been passed several times now, and I fear I am left with only a "nuclear option"... so I have been trying to find some small relaxation through gaming... but it seems that games are as difficult as RL... and nearly as frustrating....

    Sometimes I miss the days where drunken blackout sprees were a thing.... LOL

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