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Gonen
Gonen
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11/15/2015
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
I hope everyone's POSI grinding is going well, mine I admit is more of a contented meander -so if in need do feel free to send over your menace reductions. Thank-you for the advice on Cat and Mouse - that had been puzzling me for a while. But speaking of Stat bumping, now that I have one, what is the best use of Trade Secrets. If I'm understanding the wiki right it looks like it might be best to turn it into Antique Mysteries and Searing Enigmas - or maybe to save for use in story writing? Thanks in advance.



Well... I don't think there IS a best use for Trade Secrets (TS). When I was younger, I liked the stat bump. WOOOSH! Look at that stat go!
Later on I used it once for Antique Mysteries when pursued 4-card lodging (Royal Beth) and needed 50 of those. Was small help but it helped.
Now I'm saving two for writing a short story, since I decided I wanted the best potential one can get when writing a short story - though this is only for bragging rights and have NO significance in the game what so ever. You maybe won't even find that interesting to ever start that kind of grind.
So, really, it depends on your wish and current position in life (maybe stat bumps are not as important when your a veteran and completed most stories, etc.)

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malthaussen
malthaussen
Posts: 1060

11/15/2015
I waited and cashed in my first Trade Secret for the goodies, but I intend to use the next for stats boosts, at least until I have 100 in each stat. I didn't even notice that they had application for short stories, but since one of my whims is to someday have two classic short stories (one for bragging rights and one to sell), I'll probably look at that option, too. I'd definitely say that it is worth it to wait and convert your Professional Perks to Trade Secrets, though.

-- Mal

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Grenem
Grenem
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11/15/2015
malthaussen wrote:
I waited and cashed in my first Trade Secret for the goodies, but I intend to use the next for stats boosts, at least until I have 100 in each stat. I didn't even notice that they had application for short stories, but since one of my whims is to someday have two classic short stories (one for bragging rights and one to sell), I'll probably look at that option, too. I'd definitely say that it is worth it to wait and convert your Professional Perks to Trade Secrets, though.

-- Mal

No. They are not worth using for stat boosts. 125 echoes is far more worthwhile. If you need stat boosts, grind them through second chance invitations and burning the chances for stat boosts. The returns are poor enough that the only good use for trade secrets is trading for goodies. It's only 150 CP for 10 actions.

In contrast, invite-second chances grinding can offer, if the wiki's numbers are accurate, an average of 26 cp for 6 actions, assuming you exclusively have the +1 second chance outcome. If you have a 50-50 ratio, which is more likely at your level, you get 6 cp per action. (this is also why the free evening invites are good. both people get 2 second chances from that. also note the hedonist option on the gift, and the everyone deserves a second chance on the great game + church conflict. both give 4 second chances per action.)

So you're spending an item worth 60 echoes before conversion to gain 9 stat points extra per action spent on using the item. A horrible waste, especially now, when new equips can get you much closer to your goal than 90 stat points will.
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malthaussen
malthaussen
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11/15/2015
Well, that's good to know. One of the reasons I conceived of this club was precisely to grind stats through burning second chances, and I've found it quite useful in terms of actions per CP. I was going to see how much of a boost the TS gave my stats, but I may just use the TS for goods, then. It will be a few weeks before I get my next one, anyway (hard to believe I've only been playing five weeks).

-- Mal

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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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th8827
th8827
Posts: 823

11/15/2015
For people planning squads for Sacksmas, my Time The Healer is Sunday at noon Pacific Time.

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
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    11/15/2015
    Ah, good point. Mine is Tuesdays at 1700 Zulu. I'm typically online between 1300 and 0200 Zulu. Local time zone is Zulu -5.

    -- Mal
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    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/15/2015
    Thank-you Gonen and Grenem, that's a big help. - My Time The Healer is Saturday at 0800 Zulu.
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/16/2015

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    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/16/2015
    Zulu time? I did not relize that this game was so popular there... That's pretty cool.

    I got myself a Dazed Raven Advisor in the bundle of odds and ends from my new Trickster profession's perk. I wonder how I should evolve it. I can make it go either way. I'll probably make one of each, given enough time.

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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/16/2015
    The sentries report Blemmigans to south-west. Thousands of them. ;-)

    Just another way of saying UTC + 0.00 or GMT (Maybe that should be WmHT?)

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    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    Monsieur Dummour
    Monsieur Dummour
    Posts: 29

    11/16/2015
    Hello. Since it is a thread designed for helping fresh players, is there any PErson of Some Importance that would like to be my patron? I could really use one.

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/16/2015
    There is a thread for patron requests: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic6084-protgs-seeking-patrons-only-protgs-need-post.aspx
    You might as well list your stats and requirements here, as well, and perhaps one of our Senior Associates (a title I just made up, hope they like it) will be interested in helping out.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    th8827
    th8827
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    11/17/2015
    I am currently working on dueling the Black Ribbon Society, and can really use some Medical help.

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    Bandrid
    Bandrid
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    11/17/2015
    Hello! I'm fairly new to FL (and forums), so I thought I'd post here. Feel free to throw invites for social actions at me!

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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/17/2015
    I got one of those red cards and it gaveme a lot more CP of Nightmare than I expected, so I'm insane now.

    I'll enjoy my time at the Mirror Marches, and see you in reality in the future.

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/17/2015
    Bad thing about insanity is how many action points it eats up.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/17/2015
    It is a pretty good place to grind Walking the Fallen City and Seeing through the Eyes of Icarus. Plus, it's so pretty there.

    And eating Plums there makes me Unaccountably Peckish, which makes me happy. I was so disappointed when I accidentally lost it the other day...
    edited by th8827 on 11/17/2015

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/17/2015
    On? Is there an upside to being Peckish?

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Charlotte_de_Witte
    Posts: 360

    11/17/2015
    Other than the better class of cuisine?

    - Depending on your perspective in these things, I believe there used to be a serious downsides when SMEN was still active.

    @th8827 - the writing in the Marches is fantastic, by far my favourite place so far.


    -You'll put a u in favo-u-rite and you'll like it browser!
    edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 11/17/2015

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    "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar."

    Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!

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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    11/18/2015
    Well, bully for me! As of tonight, I am a Person of Some Little Consequence! Didn't realize my modified Persuasive was 102.

    -- Mal

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    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    11/18/2015
    malthaussen wrote:
    On? Is there an upside to being Peckish?

    -- Mal

    Easy methods to reach menace areas quickly. Easy methods to waste actions. once upon a time induced a horrible storyline that offered no rewards, and wasted vast quantities of resources, including your ability to sell a soul. if you had already sold it... let's just say that you'd do well to sell a wide variety of items, unless you like devils taking thousands of echoes worth of resources. It involved things like losing 60 levels worth of stat points, and other things.

    There's only two reasons to do it. one is the peculiar kind of self-destructive exploratory madness. The other is the possibility that you have truly been cursed with the plauge that is one-of-each, since there are seven unique items for this, currently availible through no other means. perhaps that will change. it is in keeping with the spirit of the story.

    It's called Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name, (SMEN for short.) and it's been temporarily discontinued. There are seven candles to lead you through the quest.
    edited by Grenem on 11/18/2015

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    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
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