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Gonen Posts: 817 9/18/2015	Good everlasting evening. Hallowmas is just around the corner. For us new players, any tips on this event? Should we stock up a specific item? Grind an attribute or buy an expensive item from the bazaar in order to max it up just for this event? Any tip will do. I will probably open a similar topic for Mr. Sacks when this becomes relevant. -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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metasynthie Posts: 645 11/9/2015	Just saw that the Hallowmas Edition was open and.... what? No... no. I don't have a St. Erzulie's Candle!! P.S. Just kidding! This is totally fake. Hallowmas fools! But were you all atingle for a moment? -- Positively antique http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/metasynthie
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 11/9/2015	Are you saying that the notorious seeker, NiteBrite, has lead you down a path of folly and excess? Who would have ever thought such a thing to be possible haha. Well at least it was fun trying. I wonder if anyone is willing to shoot for 2000 with me next year, just for laughs. edited by NiteBrite on 11/9/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 9/19/2015	When Hallowmas starts, you will only have five days to send as many confession requests to others as you possibly can. However, after the five day period ends, you can continue to accept as many requests as you have in your inbox for most of the rest of the month. So one pro-strategy is to spend those first few critical days -only- sending requests and not accepting them (though do keep your menaces high so people can send the requests to your inbox still for you to accept after the sending period ends). Owning a sporing bonnet, a pirate hat, and a modish bonnet is a good idea. With those hats, if you put them on and then take them off again while at 0 menace, it gives you one free level of menace in its associated menace state even after it is removed. So for example if you put on the sporing bonnet with 0 nightmares, then take it off, you now have +1 nightmares even if you are no longer wearing the hat. That trick will save you a lot of actions over the course of the holiday. For a sense of scale, owning those three hats and using them in this manner saved me, like, at least 500 actions worth of menace grinding last year. edited by NiteBrite on 9/19/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/18/2015	Hallowmas is about building up Spirit. You can get Spirit by accepting Confessions from other players, and by deciding what to do with the Trust other players placed in you by accepting your Confession request. At the end of the event you'll be interviewed, and the amount of Spirit you have determines how good your entry is. There are no unique items, but if you put a lot of effort into the holiday you can get a point or two of Notability from the interview. Getting a Destiny is one thing you can do during Hallowmas, but if you already have one then you can't get another without spending Fate to ditch your existing one. No worries, you'll be able to keep your existing Destiny without any trouble. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/18/2015	On your second Hallowmas you'll get the ability to either devour your old kept confessions or to betray their Trust by digging them up. Keeping Confessions will always earn you more Spirit than betraying the trust of others, so if you're trying to get that as high as you can it's best to be completely trustworthy. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 9/20/2015	The biggest issue is PoSI vs Non-PoSI confessions. Non-PoSI confessions cap out at like, 6 (edit: level 6, not 6 cp). If you aren't a PoSI, you can't get a lot of spirit. And if your contacts aren't PoSI you can't get a lot of spirit. So when asking for confessions it is important to specify if you are or are not PoSI. I had hundreds of contacts I just couldn't confess since they weren't PoSI last year and that was a problem. PoSI confessions take 3 actions to send. There's 144 actions a day, and five days to send. That means if you are super active, you can send at most 240 confessions (worth 4 spirit each) assuming you have that many PoSI contacts and don't waste any actions. So you could in theory hit values as high as 960 spirit that way, but that would be very unusual due to contact scarcity. Basically it is possible to hit 500 spirit your first year under the right conditions, but it's really hard especially if you don't know a lot of end game players (and a good portion of the people asking on the forums will be non-PoSI). It's a bit of a tricky problem to find lots of fresh PoSI contacts every year. I thought about it a lot, and my current plan has been to use the patron/protege mechanics to hand raise as many new players to PoSI status as I can in the hopes that some of them will stick around long enough to experience Hallowmas with me and my friends. Its not many that you can create this way, since you only get 5 free evenings a week, but every little bit helps you know? Yeah. Edit: Tricky for me that is. I suppose I could put together a list of my past Trusts and create a pretty good list of a few hundred PoSI that people could confess that I can no longer personally confess. That might be useful for newer players, but the risk would be a lot of those players are from ~the past~ and some might not be active anymore. I dunno, let me know if there is any interest in such a thing. edited by NiteBrite on 9/20/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 9/18/2015	From memory: a starveling cat is handy at that time of year, as you can get both wounds and nightmares simultaneously by petting it. Having a sporing bonnet, a modish bonnet, a pirate hat, and scarlet stockings will also help. You want to be able to raise your menaces quickly and easily. The number one tip is to be as active as possible in getting and giving confessions.
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Lashkar Posts: 109 9/20/2015	I started playing in 2013 and created an alt in 2014 but COMPLETELY missed out Hallowmas two years in a row, because I was busy moving to different countries in real life - two flipping years in a row* - so everybody please feel free to invite both my characters this year. * This is the best way to increase Nightmares and reduce Connected:Society in real life. I draw "A dream about missing an international flight" a lot. On the plus side, my Acquaintance list has exploded. edited by Lashkar on 9/20/2015 -- Wriothesley: Call me "Risley". My first character, around midgame Asesina Ballenas: whale killer. Alt, recently PoSI Happy to accept most social actions; will help with menace reduction if it's reciprocated.
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Koenig Posts: 466 9/29/2015	Im going to go out on a limb and say the someone should probably make a dedicated thread for this years upcoming Hallosmas provided they are willing to keep the original post updated for everyone participating (And hopefully organized into non and PoSI players) Any up for it? If not Ill give it a shot later this week unless there are any objections. -- Koenig: Extraordinary. Invisible. Shattering. Legendary.
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 11/9/2015	I'm actually okay with the top level remaining at 500. I think we can agree that this Hallowmas was incredibly successful from a community perspective - I've never seen the forums as active, and clearly it took a lot of people to get so many confessions in. The thing is, raising the bar doesn't increase the fun for most people. Very few people managed to get over 1000 spirit, and those that did seemed to be mostly old guard. The last thing we want to do is drive off all the people who have just started playing by showing them that they can't have nice things, because they haven't been playing for over a year. Think also of all the problems with people rushing to get 100 confessions out, and then confessing to other people. Telling everyone that 100 is nice, but you really need 200, 250, isn't going to make the season any more pleasant.
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 10/19/2015	Angus Turner wrote: Why 4 actions for whimsy? Get the first level of suspicion from gear and use 2 actions giving lectures to increase it to 2 and with the hat you've reached 3. Scandal you can reach with gear alone, using scarlet stockings and a modish bonnet. So that's 2 actions by my count. Am I missing something? You can't equip 2 hats at the same time. -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/20/2015	You get 4 Spirit for each confession you consign to the Bazaar, and the highest reward needs 500 Spirit. You also get 1 Spirit whenever you accept a Confession request, so 100 Confessions given and 100 Confessions accepted will get you there. I personally didn't make it up nearly that high, but the next tier down requires only 250 Spirit. Reaching 500 will be easier after your first year since you'll probably have some old Confessions to cash in for 6 Spirit each. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 9/20/2015	If they haven't been active in a long while, Time the Healer should have eliminated all their menaces, so they shouldn't show up on your invite list. Not always effective, but a small comfort. -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 9/18/2015	Keep your menaces at 3 at all times. Befriend everyone. EVERYONE! Don't wait for them to befriend you. Find the profiles on the forums, Tumblr, reddit, wherever. Keep track of whom you've sent requests to to avoid duplicate requests. -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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Seno Posts: 77 9/20/2015	I would like to say I'm a POSI as well. I'd love to see a POSI list on the forums for hallowmas so people could easily find who was available for confessions. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Seno http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Katrina450
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 9/20/2015	metasynthie wrote: NiteBrite wrote: Edit: Tricky for me that is. I suppose I could put together a list of my past Trusts and create a pretty good list of a few hundred PoSI that people could confess that I can no longer personally confess. That might be useful for newer players, but the risk would be a lot of those players are from ~the past~ and some might not be active anymore. I dunno, let me know if there is any interest in such a thing. edited by NiteBrite on 9/20/2015 This sounds like an interesting thing to experiment with -- trying to figure out who's still active from NiteBrite's master-list of PoSI -- and potentially better than just trying to find some more PoSI based on forums, etc. (Beyond people who actively post their availability for confessions, I mean.) So I'd be interested in seeing such a list! Thank you for offering! Sure thing, now there are probably a few Non-PoSI in this list, but the vast majority should be PoSI who were active in Hallowmas last year (about 60ish were from 2 years ago). Spoiler box because its a long list: [spoiler]Trust 3 Zee Dee (2013) William John Penning (2013) William Dawson III (2013) Wally Bloodnose (2013) vswest (2013) Spacemarine9 (2013) Shadowhand (2013) Seberin Cirion (2013) Sebastian Flyte (2013) Saint_arthur (2013) Sagrim-Ur (2013) Rolias Watt (2013) Roland Banning (2013) Rhoanna (2013) Reshemin (2013) Reginald Hubris (2013) peachsoymilk (2013) Moomin (2013) Matthew Holland (2013) Margaret Ashton Lady Circe (2013) lady ciel (2013) Katherine Navane (2013) John Purple (2013) Johannes Cless (2013) Jimmy Paladin of the Last Alliance (2013) Inky Petrel (2013) Hammond (2013) Guy Scrum (2013) Georgie_0 (2013) Dolan (2013) Ddallan (2013) Craig Smuda (2013) Cochimetl (2013) calm (2013) bjorntfh (2013) ashdenej (2013) Asami Sato (2013) Armadi (2013) Anstruther Barron (2013) an_ocelot (2013) Trust 2 Zingarinha Zero Hunt Zeel (2013) Zalan yaseanne xKiv (2013) wrenish WordsLikeWeeds (2013) Vine Vidette Greer Veerke van Vleeslieve Urthdigger Tsukino Faerii Thaddeus Wren Teresa Lin Sylvester Stardust Mirrorhouse Swinter Stroller Spht SmallFish Sir William Lydgate Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook Simus silasilent serguma (2013) Scarlet Attford-Fenwick Sardonyx Sarah Sahara (2013) Sara Hysaro (2013) Saint Arthur (2013) Robert Tarrelond-Ashe Regas reddogrising (2013) RandomWalker Raistlin Majere Ragabrash ProfessorCirno Polybius PeteScuff Persephone Otaara Ossus Telek Ognjen oedalis Odessa Reyes Isola-Maskylene Ochrasy oceanlover4evr Niobe NinjaComedian Nigel Overstreet neongrey nedemmons narcissus_echo Mr Mercutio Mr E B mp (2013) Mordenn Miss Martinez Misbiopy Mimic McCrapShot (2013) maxgay Mathieu Psmith Martzel De Pamplona Martial Canterel mari4212 Maltramac Mallachi Màiread Mad-Sweeney Madison Lavery (2013) Lucius Hammersmyth Lord Anar Little The Leraika Lansemann Lady Red Kuromori Koji Arala (2013) Juliet Chauvelin Josiah Thimblerig (2013) Jessie Bond Jass (2013) Jambles Preakcastle Jacob Majikes Jack Vaux-Harrowden J.L. Moriarty Inpiun (2013) Imrazor ICountFrom0 Hiram McDaniels Helena Korinek Grue (2013) Greenstar54 Furak Fred Cassidy Floyd Tarrant Fhoenix Eris Jay Eric Vimes Emily Ariel Eliza Flame (2013) Eliza Banks (2013) Elisa Sherwood Elene (2013) elejit (2013) Eeevlore (2013) echanstar (2013) dreamwilds Dragoshi DragonRidingSorceress Dr Cameo “Scary Teeth” Thurlow dov Dom_Delouise Dirae Erinyes Dharlome (2013) Denubis Banere DemonicFerret Delmar Tramontane Daniel Vaise curious_fellow Crianas (2013) Cousin Elizabeth Corran contrivedpoetry Cocytus Clara Rose cestmoname cathyr19355 Caninicus Cake Ninja (2013) Broughie Shaw (2013) Blackleaf Ben bell paget badpatient Azurite Austra Atomikkrab Asclepius Unbound Artemis Severina artematthew Armand le Boucher Ariana Arachosia Ancele d´Aurillac Ammery Alonois (2013) Allanon Kisigar Alice Darkmoor Alexander Feld Alberto Robert adagio (2013) A B Nile [NAME REDACTED] !!DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER509189-blader4411 !!DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER457438-Ceysila !!DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER261428-Karis Fra Mauro (2013) 8 Trust 1 Vesta Tilley Sapphire Dragon Rozmar Nesmertal plaid Miss Tree Lendl (2013) Kalixas Insidious_Lars HJackson Harkavian (2013) Fuglsang entonfire Dreambolt DompR dfotw Coverzin Cobwebs Chrome Angrykitten Aife Aer !!DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER233581-hitokiridarkempress (2013) Exposed By zephyr15 Zantumall Varinner Valentine Jericho ryjelsum Red Rose Raloph PlainInsane PennyPenny Natalie Harmonia Mr. Cheshire MayExist Mary L Laplace Major Rojam Luke McMillan Gills (2013) Flap Ewan C (2013) Ducky Inc Cretaza Alzar aethergeologist !!DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER256323-Professor G Detective Unlogged 2013 Betrayals I don't have a full list of 2013 betrayls because they existed before the Exposed By quality and are therefore not logged anywhere. icecheetah2 (2013) [/spoiler] edited by NiteBrite on 9/20/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. 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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 9/20/2015	Koenig wrote: Is there any way to tell if someone is still active or not outside of forum posts? Send them a letter in game and ask them. That's about it. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/20/2015	The easiest way to get a small hint is to check their mantelpiece for recent echoes. That's not always helpful, however, so the best way would be to send them a social action of some sort. If they accept or decline it then they're probably active; if it's still sitting there 3 weeks later they're either neglectful of their messages tab or inactive. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 9/20/2015	Raising menaces reference sheet: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9427-raising-menaces.aspx -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/20/2015	You're limited to only one confession per person, so you definitely need multiple contacts. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 9/20/2015	There's always a thread on here full of others looking to confess, so you should be fine! -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 10/22/2015	It's the recipient of a confession invitation who needs the menaces. I think it just won't let you accept if you don't have enough, and it'll stay in your inbox.. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 10/19/2015	We're not allowed to be quite that silly, alas. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 10/19/2015	Yeah, this isn't Team Fortress 2 :P -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/20/2015	Trust is what you get when someone accepts your request to hear their sins. If you betray their Trust you'll lose it and gain less Spirit than you would if you had kept their confession secret. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 9/20/2015	Trust and Exposed By are the two qualities that make sure you can't use the same person twice. The Confessions quality measures the amount of times you can decide what to do with a person's confession, and your choice can either increase their Trust quality or convert it into an Exposed By quality. A person's Trust in you can go up to 3 if you decide to keep their secret twice. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 11/9/2015	metasynthie wrote: P.S. Just kidding! This is totally fake. Hallowmas fools! But were you all atingle for a moment? Yes. Evil, you. -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 11/9/2015	RandomWalker wrote: The thing is, raising the bar doesn't increase the fun for most people. Very few people managed to get over 1000 spirit, and those that did seemed to be mostly old guard. The last thing we want to do is drive off all the people who have just started playing by showing them that they can't have nice things, because they haven't been playing for over a year. Think also of all the problems with people rushing to get 100 confessions out, and then confessing to other people. Telling everyone that 100 is nice, but you really need 200, 250, isn't going to make the season any more pleasant. Story wise, confessing to that many people feel like exactly the same kind of OOC behavior that the Metaphysical Caprice change. Someone selling their souls repeatedly with pretty diamonds is just odd. Meanwhile, the Bazaar received thousands of so-called embarrassing stories where people specifically dress up in cheap stockings and bonnets for the Bazaar when the game made it clear that manufactured stories are not what it seek. I felt like we should be moving to a quality over quantity approach - yes, I got over 1000, but it isn't what I'd call fun. I am not a heavy roleplayer, but it does feel odd that you can't actually confess in your own words! Something like a stake-based confessions for the specialized PoSI could add more weight to confessions - both Trust and Betrayal will be that much more impactful if it is like consigning a Blackmail Material to the Bazaar or keeping it for yourself (then you get pulverized in an alley because too many Shattering Force are annoyed with you). Still, the NPC confessions event is a very good addition to Hallowmas, since you can get a decent level without spamming people with invites, and the text are really good. edited by Estelle Knoht on 11/9/2015 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Ysrthgrathe Posts: 87 10/22/2015	Look here: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hallowmas_Edition -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Ysrthgrathe
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 11/9/2015	We're not going to run out of POSI to confess to because new players join the game and a portion of them end up at that point. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 10/22/2015	Ysrthgrathe wrote: Look here: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hallowmas_Edition Ah, but that doesn't tell the whole story. [spoiler]There is also a bonus making waves action on One's Public that scales with your tier of Hallowmas Edition. The 500 spirit reward makes it so that the One's Public card gives between 8 and 14 cp of making waves. That is a ridiculous amount of making waves considering it is a standard frequency card. Lower levels of spirit give less cp of making waves, but its generally a range of +6/-0 (ex 8+6 is 14). The lowest levels of spirit make One's public give at least 1 cp of making waves. But yeah, I thought I'd mention it scales since the wiki isn't very clear about that.[/spoiler] edited by NiteBrite on 10/23/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 10/26/2015	malthaussen wrote: It is probable I have thoroughly misunderstood the mechanics of this Festival. You're overthinking it. As a non-PoSI you can only get Spirit of Hollowmas from your first 6 Confessions. So send out those 6. Now you're done sending Confessions. Non-PoSI have a cap on confessions, but not a cap on Spirit. You can accept as many Confessions as you want and still get Spirit. So keep your Menaces of choice(Suspicion & Scandal or Wounds & Nightmares) at 3 and accept as many Confessions as you can to get as much Spirit as you can. -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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Gonen Posts: 817 10/26/2015	A thought, for your consideration: Many are on "send only" mode, and will accept confessions after the 2nd. We might be forgetting that accepting POSI confessions are action grinding (accepting and building menace) and with the new organized system, in which everyone is probably going to receive 100+ invitations, we won't have enough actions to accept them all. By that logic many confessions that WE ourselves SENT to others would not be answered. Could it be wise not to be on "Send only" mode and combine sending & accepting now? -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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Rupho Schartenhauer Posts: 787 10/26/2015	Gonen wrote: A thought, for your consideration: Many are on "send only" mode, and will accept confessions after the 2nd. We might be forgetting that accepting POSI confessions are action grinding (accepting and building menace) and with the new organized system, in which everyone is probably going to receive 100+ invitations, we won't have enough actions to accept them all. By that logic many confessions that WE ourselves SENT to others would not be answered. Could it be wise not to be on "Send only" mode and combine sending & accepting now? That is one solution. Another would be to keep an eye on your inbox and lower your menaces below 3 once you think that you can't handle any more invites. I would also point out that, while last year we had only five days to send confession requests, this year we have eight. edited by Rupho Schartenhauer on 10/28/2015 -- Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it. Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely. Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated. Dr. Kvirkvelia, gone NORTH on 23/12/1894.
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Cash DeCuir Posts: 22 10/27/2015	Kaigen wrote: Shalinoth wrote: What is everyone's best advice for Devouring / Retrieving old Confessions? From what I can see, Devouring is far better for Spirit gains and Trust. Is it best to do that right at the start, or after the invitations period ends, or near the end of the entire event? Since it doesn't appear to matter when you devour/retrieve, and since it doesn't have an effect on the actions the other person can take, I would at least wait until the invitation period is over. The option to Devour/Retrieve Confession will not be around in Phase II. It will only be around in Phase I, which ends on Nov 2. If you have confession from previous years you've not dealt with, do so before then. -- Failbetter Writer! @CashDeCuir on Twitter.
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genesis Posts: 924 10/28/2015	How exactly does the The Unexpurgated Gazette: Hallowmas Edition work? Is there a separate quality for each year? If you had a higher level edition last year but only manage a lower level this year, does your prior high level get overwritten? And if you have different qualities for each year do the extra options on One's Public trigger off each? -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 10/28/2015	MissCrumpet wrote: Sara, I have to apologize - the "report to moderator" button is way too easy to hit on the mobile version. I think this is the second time I've made this mistake too... My apologies! No worries - we understand how easy it is to hit that button, and it's easy enough to clear from the list. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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James Sinclair Posts: 253 11/1/2015	I've done some more research, and I can't find anything involving or requiring Irrigo to devour prior confessions. As far as I can tell, here's an example of what could potentially happen if you don't betray a PoSI confession (someone please correct me if I am inaccurate): 1) You ask someone for a confession of Pride or Whimsy on Hallowmas. They accept the action. You gain: 1 Confession. They gain: +1 Spirit of Hallowmas and +1 Trust [You]. 2) [after the confession period is over] You Consign their confession to the Bazaar. You gain: +4 Spirit of Hallowmas and lose 1 Confession. They gain: +1 Trust [you]. They now have 2 Trust [You]. 3) Next year, you chose 'Devour an Old Confession' storylet. The name of anyone else that has Trust 2 [You] should be available under the list of contacts. You choose their name. You gain: +6 Spirit of Hallowmas. They gain: +1 Trust [You], for a total of 3 Trust [You]. As far as I can tell, there is no option during Hallowmas to interact with a player that has 3 Trust [You], at least not yet. ...so the upshot is that if you have a confession from someone and don't betray their trust, it's potentially worth +10 Spirit of Hallowmas to you, albeit spread out over two years (4 this year, 6 the next). Therefore, I don't see any benefit from not doing anything with a confession this year ('stagnating' it). If you Consign the confession, you gain Spirit not only this year, but next year too, so you might as well Consign if your primary goal is maximizing your Spirit of Hallowmas. -- James Sinclair Curator of the Sanguine Ribbon Society 🗡 A fully-fledged rêveur of The Night Circus. Wines is red Spices is yellow But old Jack-of-Smiles Is a murderous fellow ☠
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Kivrin Neverwinter Posts: 86 11/9/2015	Gonen wrote: Greatest prize is still 500. Don't I feel like I've wasted a lot of actions. But you'd feel a lot worse if a better prize did exist, and you'd just stayed at 500! I guess we should hope for next year instead. -- Often lost, always armed, eager for adventure. Kivrin Neverwinter Also: August Reave, whose quest for knowledge tends to drive him mad or dead or both, at least once a week.
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Parelle Posts: 1084 11/9/2015	Travers wrote: Màiread wrote: Travers: I have both 1892 and 1893. Thanks lady ciel, Màiread, and dov! I wonder if the One's Public challenge will check the most recent only or if it will be satisfied by either year. Most recent - I've drawn One's Public and having not yet chosen for this year, the Hallowmas option is just not there. -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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xKiv Posts: 846 11/9/2015	Gonen wrote: Since a whole bunch of people starts next year with hundreds of confessions to devour (+6 spirits each) and since this year the organization was very successful, I believe the tag price for the prizes cannot stay as they were. I believe that the tag price already accounts for that. Three weeks at, say, 100 actions/day, for an intriguers compendium and dreadful surmise? That's 0.31 epa. (what a hallowmas spirit I have, counting the profitability of it!) If you also account for the next years' devouring (let's be generous and say that one such year allows you to get 500 spirit on two other years, for just ~85 actions each of the two years), you get to 0.86 epa. That's almost half as good as top money-grinding, and that's as much as two quarters! ETA: well, there's also the +6 not-ability total, though ... edited by xKiv on 11/9/2015 -- https://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/xKiv - a witchful, percussive, dangermous and shadowry scholar of coexplodence, hopsidirean, and walker of fallen kitties.
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Màiread Posts: 385 11/9/2015	suincide: Yep, time to withdraw your confessions. RandomWalker: I totally agree! I think that when events like this raise the bar beyond what could reasonably be expected of players who either have no interest or no time for concocting maximum efficiency strategies then the whole thing can sour very quickly. Reaching 1000+ spirit was a fun challenge, and the reward was interracting with the fantastic community - if I hadn't been confined to mobile for most of it, I'd have happily sent a lot more spooky messages. Last year, when there was no serious attempt at community organisation, playing casually and not having been here for very long, I managed 250 by the skin of my teeth. 500 is a goal that requires a lot of effort, but is still very doable. The 1000+ club wasn't really just the 'old guard' though - several people actually got 1000 spirit on their first year, and I only had a small number of confessions to eat from last time - this year, between organisation and more down time from a lot of hanging about at hospitals, I had a much easier time finding confession partners. Either way though, I agree that the prizes are set at a good level - 500 is a respectable challenge, with appropriate rewards. Travers: I have both 1892 and 1893. (Edited for clarity!) edited by Màiread on 11/9/2015 edited by Màiread on 11/9/2015 -- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake. Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) \| phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown \| Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady. I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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Pralaya Posts: 12 11/9/2015	That was my first Hallowmas and it was quite wonderful, though a bit grindy. I went from notability 0 to 5 in 3 weeks, so that is a plus I guess I was able to respond to 90% of the confession request received. Due to this being my first, I overestimated the number of confessions I can attend to and was not able to respond to it all. If you are one of them, really sorry.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 11/9/2015	Gonen wrote: Kivrin Neverwinter wrote: Gonen wrote: Greatest prize is still 500. Don't I feel like I've wasted a lot of actions. But you'd feel a lot worse if a better prize did exist, and you'd just stayed at 500! I guess we should hope for next year instead. A lot worse. Since a whole bunch of people starts next year with hundreds of confessions to devour (+6 spirits each) and since this year the organization was very successful, I believe the tag price for the prizes cannot stay as they were. Unless the players on forums are only 2-5% of total FL players, in which case the tag price will probably won't shift a lot. (I've always wondered, do we have a speculation on the number of FL players? Lets say, including alts) In a worst case scenario, Gonen, instead of thinking of it as wasted actions you could spin it to say "wow, I am set to get the highest reward tier for the next two years without having to do anything". Assuming you don't care for pushing the numbers ever higher. In terms of numbers, yeah, the forums members really are a super tiny fraction of total players. Like I want to say we had about 300 participants in this year's confession thread. There were like 20,000 total FL player accounts back in 2013 (mentioned somewhere in the old K&C underground leagues thread iirc) before there was even a sunless sea. And Sunless Sea sold, like $2 million within its first week of release? Yeah, 300 players is a microfraction haha. But at least we are the coolest microfraction of the community edited by NiteBrite on 11/9/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Lemexis Posts: 155 9/24/2015	Ok, thanks ! Damn, 3 vials of Masters' Blood, 16 connected: the Masters and a Spire-Emporium of the Bazaar... You're what my character (and myself) always dreamed of being. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lemexis Feed me your most terrible secrets
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navchaa Posts: 561 9/28/2015	I've been playing for about 6 months now and am a POSI. Will be very happy to make more POSI contacts to take advantage of Hallowmas. -- Paramount Presence (London's Marrow 2, London's Nerves 2, London’s Sinew 3, London’s Blood 3) and mercenary Notary Married to Myrto :: Exchanging Surprise Packages with anyone interested :: Exchanging cat boxes with Kitty Rambunctious http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/navchaa
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Erika Posts: 528 10/17/2015	Gonen: Making a thread yourself, and updating that, wouldn't be considered spamming. FBG has specifically made threads for this purpose I think, at least, it's expected to happen during the Hallowmas season. So make your own thread away! ACTUALLY. GONEN. I'll be making a spreadsheet that everyone can put who they've sent confessions to. NiteBrite will make a corresponding thread to accompany it. This will make sense soon. Also. I shall be making a thread offering Starveling Cats come a little closer to Hallowmas. What with 133 straveled away. EDIT: My edit was a bit late. Welp. edited by Cecil on 10/17/2015 -- Where the sun is hot, the moon is beautiful, and mysterious lights pass overhead while we all pretend to sleep. Going on a fate expedition? I'm collecting data! Help me? "Bottles of Oblivion" drunk in the name of content: 57 Catboxes (send more!) opened in the name of science: 1093 Fancy a friend?
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Guest 10/18/2015	NiteBrite wrote: There we go, I have made a proper thread for confessions sign-ups here: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic20857-hallowmas--confessions-list.aspx?lastpage=1#post112911 Let me know if you have any questions or comments and I can update it as needed. edited by NiteBrite on 10/18/2015 Scandalously whispered to Snow says she prefers improper confessions but thanks you
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 10/18/2015	For me it's a matter of either avoiding Connected: Revolutionaries or getting Connected: Revolutionaries. Pride is better for those who want to avoid having a connection to Revolutionaries, and Whimsy is better for those who want or make use of that connection. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 10/18/2015	Specific Confession types depend on having your menaces at 3 ao some people find it easier to raise (or concentrate) on a specific menace (or pair of menaces for POSIs) rather than making themselves available for all of them. edited by reveurciel on 10/18/2015 -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 10/18/2015	In addition to the above there's also action efficiency to consider. A confession of Whimsy takes about 4 actions to grind while a confession of pride takes about 5 actions (there are ways to get this lower such as the giggling mandrake, but they are generally luck based). One action extra might not seem like much, but over the course of say 100 confessions thats like having lost one day. Do you have a giggling mandrake? A starveling cat? Do you care about getting involved with revolutionaries? Are you a scholar of the correspondence? Or do you just want to sample anything and everything and care not about these other concerns? There's many reasons for having a preference. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 10/19/2015	Why 4 actions for whimsy? Get the first level of suspicion from gear and use 2 actions giving lectures to increase it to 2 and with the hat you've reached 3. Scandal you can reach with gear alone, using scarlet stockings and a modish bonnet. So that's 2 actions by my count. Am I missing something? edit: just realized you can wear only one hat -_- as was noted below edited by Angus Turner on 10/19/2015 edited by Angus Turner on 10/19/2015 -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 10/21/2015	Yes, menaces are reduced after accepting the social action. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 10/22/2015	I think the best way to understand how confessions work might be to do a bit of practice with your friends. Luckily there is a social action which works almost exactly like a confession of Violence. This is of course the "Nurse a friend back to health" social action in your Lodgings under the menu "Invite a friend to join you in something potentially dangerous." That is basically exactly what a hallowmas confession is, nursing your friend back to health but across various menaces, not just wounds. For the tutorial below, I will refer to "Nurse your friend back to health" as "Confessions". So if you want to practice, I suggest getting two or three friends and trying the steps below: [spoiler]Step 1 - Get to wounds 3: A really easy way to get to wounds three from 0 would be to drink 6 bottles of laudanum. Once all players in your practice group have wounds 3, proceed to step 2. Step 2 - Send the "Confessions": Once everyone has wounds three, go to Lodgings > Invite a friend to join you in something potentially dangerous > Nurse your friend back to health. Send this social action to everyone in your practice group. You will notice that if your friend does not have wounds 3 yet, then they do not appear in the social action list. This is because they are not eligible to receive it until they do have 3 wounds. Do not accept the social actions yet. No one should accept any of the social actions at this time because if you do, it will heal you and the others cannot send you the social action because you would no longer have wounds 3. Step 3 - Wait a day: The idea is to wait a full day to ensure every member of your practice group has a chance to send the social action out before you start accepting your inbox full of "confessions". Step 4 - Accept the first social action: Its a day later and everyone has sent "confessions" to everyone else. Now it is time to accept the social actions in your inbox. After you accept the first "confession" you no longer have wounds 3 and cannot accept the next "confession" in your inbox. They are still there, but it tells you you are missing qualities (wounds). This step can be done independently of the other players so long as they stay in london (ie dont go to menace states or zail across the zee, etc). It is also independent of their wounds. They dont need to be wounded to heal you with soup right? Same deal with confessions as heals. Step 5 - Drink more laudanum to get back to wounds 3: Top up your wounds by drinking more laudanum so that you are eligible to accept the next social action. Step 6 - Repeat steps 4 and 5: Repeat the cycle of wounding yourself and then accepting the heals until you have accepted every "confession" in your inbox. Once complete, you will have successfully done a practice hallowmas run. Hallowmas works exactly like this, one of the confessions is almost exactly a re-skinned "Nurse your friend back to health" social action. This is good practice, and I hope it helps you to understand the mechanics better.[/spoiler] edited by NiteBrite on 10/22/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 9/18/2015	Oh, completely forgot - you also want a point in Scholar of the Correspondence. Or at least one. That way you have a reliable source of suspicion (public lectures in the forgotten quarter).
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Gonen Posts: 817 9/18/2015	Okay, I think I am starting to grasp the rules. This link to the last Hallowmas explains a bit and also answers my destiny question (yes, the new destiny overrides the old one but you avoid activating the destiny's option) http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9417-hallowmas-content-for-.aspx Any other tips or strategies? (Thanks, RandomWalker) edited by Gonen on 9/18/2015 -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 9/20/2015	Gonen wrote: Does one need to be on my contact list to get or send a confession or do I just type their name? (If I need building acquaintances thats another action to calculate). What happens if I send a confession to a non POSI and he reach the limit before accepting mine? Is that action loss to me? Stays unanswered? You don't need to be acquaintances to send and receive confessions. Hallowmas predates the Notability system. You just type their name to send a confession (that will add them to your contacts automatically). Others can send you confessions without you adding them to your contacts first. The game automatically adds players to your contacts when you receive a social action from them. If a Non-PoSI hits their confession limit before accepting your confession request then they cannot accept it and will have to decline. You lose the action you used to send the request. Conversely, if you send out too many non-PoSI confessions and have outstanding requests to other non-PoSI after you hit your cap on non-PoSI the outstanding requests can be accepted giving you trust but you don't gain any points in confessions. Gaining trust 1 but no points in confessions makes this a double loss since 1. you now have trust meaning you can't fresh confess them next year, and 2. you need points in confessions to convert trust 1 to trust 2 in order to make it useful for the following year. I believe, that in the following year, FBG will give you enough CP in confessions to turn your outstanding trust 1s into trust 2s (or betrayals) specifically to mitigate this scenario. I and others got a few mystery points of confessions at the start of last year and I believe it was for that reason, as there were rumors to that effect. This means if you overshoot, its bad this year, but all is not lost and you can make up for it in the next year. Intentionally overshooting non-PoSI request could be a very powerful game break, but it'd take like 3 years to pay out and so probably no one would ever think to do that. edited by NiteBrite on 9/20/2015 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 9/20/2015	I would like to point out that the reward for the top tier of confessions is two points of notability (variable usefulness) and two items worth 312.50 echoes each. The 'one's public' card also becomes slightly more profitable. Nice, yes, but missing out on the highest reward isn't going to be the end of the world.
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