metasynthie
Posts: 645
8/26/2015
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Well, that makes Favours relatively easy to get, but not reliably because all the sources so far seem to be cards. The Life of Crime card has a similar option -- "Remind them who's boss" now gives a Favour and a point of suspicion instead of 10 CP Criminals connection and a point of suspicion. The option on the Smoky Flophouse card that used to give Criminals connection now gives a Favour, but it looks like only if you have a low number of Favours? (And still locked off if you have eliminated Jack.) Visiting the music-hall singer, on the other hand, now gives Society connection in place of Criminals; she's cleaned up her act, I guess!
So you can get 9 echoes after playing four cards, which is 2.25 EPA but all draw-dependent.
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MadmanAtW
Posts: 231
8/26/2015
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Interestingly, while I hadn't had enough Connection:Criminals to draw "Crime or Punishment?", I did post-change have enough Favours, so now I have this card vegging out in my hand.
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Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518
8/26/2015
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So where do we find our levels of Favours and Renown?
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RandomWalker
Posts: 948
8/26/2015
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
So where do we find our levels of Favours and Renown?
'Contacts' side drop down on the 'Myself' tab, where Connected:Criminals was before.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
8/26/2015
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Favours is under Contacts. I haven't been able to find Renown.
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
8/26/2015
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metasynthie wrote:
Visiting the music-hall singer, on the other hand, now gives Society connection in place of Criminals;
Chatting with The Repentant Forger still gives a Favour.
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Ben
Posts: 657
8/26/2015
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dov wrote:
Can't sell secrets anymore to Criminals in the Flit (Hell and Revolutionaries options remain).
I too am in the group asking for something as a replacement here.
The shadowy gain was something I was looking forward to, as the way to best gain my endgame shadowy.
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Sara Hysaro
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Posts: 4514
8/26/2015
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an_ocelot wrote:
Favours is under Contacts. I haven't been able to find Renown.
Renown is under Contacts too.
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Szadovar
Posts: 113
8/26/2015
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If you can see your favors, renown should be hard to miss 
Ben wrote:
I too am in the group asking for something as a replacement here.
The shadowy gain was something I was looking forward to, as the way to best gain my endgame shadowy.
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Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518
8/26/2015
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Szadovar wrote:
If you can see your favors, renown should be hard to miss
Ben wrote:
I too am in the group asking for something as a replacement here.
The shadowy gain was something I was looking forward to, as the way to best gain my endgame shadowy.
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Ben: My Favours and Renown were not apparent last time I checked the "Myself" tab; I only learned what they were by purchasing a Skeleton Key and finding out from the mouseover text what stats I had that unlocked its storylets! Thanks.
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Myke Harryson
Posts: 309
8/26/2015
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The Visiting the Sardonic Music Hall Singer -> Introductions to the Admused Lordship has just become less profitable. The Connections to Society have replaced the Connections to Criminal on the Visit, and disappeared entirely from the Amused Lordship
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
8/26/2015
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
an_ocelot wrote:
Favours is under Contacts. I haven't been able to find Renown.
Renown is under Contacts too.
Apparently I don't have any, then!
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Antur
Posts: 23
8/26/2015
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Chat about business with Cheery Man grants a favour now
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Szadovar
Posts: 113
8/26/2015
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an_ocelot wrote:
Apparently I don't have any, then!
Interesting. Out of curiosity, how high was your Connected: Criminals (and how many Favours did you get)?
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Gonen
Posts: 817
8/27/2015
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Well, visiting the Repentant Forger gives you a favour.
And "Seek out some influential help - Use your less savoury connections" (University) does not cost favours from the Criminals
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marcmagus
Posts: 168
8/27/2015
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MadmanAtW wrote:
Interestingly, while I hadn't had enough Connection:Criminals to draw "Crime or Punishment?", I did post-change have enough Favours, so now I have this card vegging out in my hand.
Me too. I decided to play it for the Criminals, as I have plenty of Constables connection anyway.
It seems to give the same rewards as previously (~25 echoes of mostly Mysteries, +Suspicion, +SiC) at the cost of 500 CP of Constables, but it no longer gives anything positive on Criminals, and the quirks have changed.
It's now +Steadfast (limit 4)/-Austere
Steadfast definitely makes sense with the text, I'm kind of intrigued by whether this suggests a new direction for Austere?
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
8/27/2015
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Szadovar wrote:
an_ocelot wrote:
Apparently I don't have any, then!
Interesting. Out of curiosity, how high was your Connected: Criminals (and how many Favours did you get)?
Somewhere in the vicinity of 10, and 3 Favours.
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Kaigen
Posts: 530
8/27/2015
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My alt had Connected: Criminals 24 (saving up Use of Villains for a Gang) and ended up with 7 Favours and no Renown, so you must have had to have quite a bit of Connected to get any renown.
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Sara Hysaro
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Posts: 4514
8/27/2015
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76 Criminals Connection turned into 7 Favours and 9 Renown.
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marcmagus
Posts: 168
8/27/2015
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At 28 Connected: Criminals I had 7 Favours and 1 Renown; next to Kaigen's alt we may be closing in on the minimum to get any.
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