Jacke
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8/8/2015
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Hadn't played for a few days and came back to Fallen London. It's not quite the same as I'd left it.
On this page:
A Name Known to Many
There's an unusual statue atop the Eclipse Tavern, recently reopened. "Come in, come in! 'Ave a pint!" It shifts to another, equally uncomfortable-looking pose. "Obviously I'm not a statue. I'm just here to draw in business for the pub. But you - you're a real artist, aren't you? Where do I know you from? Bet you don't stoop to things like this."
This will grant you the Making Your Name Quality, which is the first part of our revamp of early Fallen London content! This choice will determine where in the story of your Persuasive career you are, and will put you there accordingly. For more information, click here!
With options to
You're striving to become Imperial Artist-in-Residence
You're romancing the Court
You're acquainting yourself with the circles in the Shuttered Palace
You mix with the cream of Veilgarden Society
You've been investigating the secrets of Veilgarden, and working on your own prose
You've been exploring the wonders of the honeyed world
No option to go back or otherwise get out.
I don't want any of them. Tried the reset code mentioned in the header. Still have the same page.
I don't want any of them. And I have no way to get out.
This is a dead end and I'm trapped.
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Lady Oida
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8/9/2015
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I went back to the earliest point, flirted and slept my way to the top of the pile all over again, ahh the heady days of youth, i remember thee fondly. im having a little trouble sitting down but i feel invigorated.
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Sara Hysaro
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8/8/2015
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You can read more about trackers here, but the short story is that FBG is moving away from stats as a mechanism to unlock stories. So the storylet you're currently in and cannot leave isn't a new thing that changes anything significantly, it's just asking where you were in your Persuasive adventures so you aren't forced all the way back to the beginning content.
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Ginneon Thursday
Posts: 265
8/9/2015
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Jacke wrote:
We're here for the story. In playing out that story, I've faced many decisions in Fallen London. Some I've regretted. Some were forced upon me by the story, but I'd gotten to that point of the story by decisions made earlier. Here it's like I woke up and was teleported to that point. If it was the real world and that happened, I'd either leave or just have a pint and chose none of the above. I wouldn't look at this like you're being teleported to that point in the story. Think of it more as a friend asking you over a pint, "So what have you been up to lately?"
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Mirelle Nye
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8/9/2015
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Jacke wrote:
I understand Failbetter is continually working on the story and when some things change earlier in the arc, they have to take measures to adjust them in the existing characters. But I don't like being being forced into this selection without one that would reflect how I would play it out.
If there's no way out, I'm going to make a support request to be removed from this false forced choice. If that doesn't satisfy me, I guess I'm done with Fallen London.
My dear, it's not a "false forced choice", there is no roleplaying element here. My understanding of this storylet is that it's just a way to assign a progress marker to your character behind-the-scenes. If you'd previously completed the Spider-Council storyline, for example, before they began to revamp that story, you may have gotten the card "The Spider-Council". It didn't change anything about your character, and in my case didn't necessarily reflect the situation I believed my character had encountered, but I picked the closest option, and all it did was assign a number for tracking for further purposes. If you haven't played through any of the Veilgarden content, because it doesn't suit your character, choose "You've been exploring the wonders of the honeyed world". However, if you aren't yet a PoSI, you may find that you will have to play through that content anyway to advance in the game after a certain point. The Veilgarden content is objective in this instance -- it's not a roleplaying card, it's just asking what your character has been through on the Persuasive track.
Edit: and if you *are* a PoSI, or on track to become one, simply pick the card that reflects what you've most recently done with Persuasive. "Honeyed World" is the most basic Persuasive card, "Secrets of Veilgarden" places you, as others guessed, on track to complete the Mushroom Paper storyline, "Cream of Veilgarden society" starts you at the point where you need to become Darling of the Ambassador's Ball (again, if you already were but choose that option), "Circles in the Shuttered Palace" is the best option if you had acquired admission to the Shuttered Palace and were currently getting acquainted with the Duchess and Society, "Romancing the Court" is asking if you were currently working on seducing the Acclaimed Beauty/Barbed Wit, and Imperial-Artist-in-Residence is self-explanatory.
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Kittenpox
Posts: 869
8/9/2015
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In case you're figuring out where to go next or how to progress:
"You've been exploring the wonders of the honeyed world" requires Persuasive 14 and is the earliest of the storylines. Get cosy with the Master Jewel-Thief or the Honey-sipping Heiress.
"You've been investigating the secrets of Veilgarden, and working on your own prose" is the next one along. I found that to proceed, creating a short story with 60 Potential seemed to work, though it's quite likely that 50 is enough.
As for the rest of the, "You mix with the cream of Veilgarden Society" and onwards, if you've done the persuasive storylines you should be able to figure out where you're up to. If not, just pick one of the lower ones and work your way back up again. :-)
I've reached Carving out a Reputation at Court: 5 a few times now (mostly while I was grinding SotC via "somewhat challenging" Symphonies), but decided to go back to writing Short Stories for a bit, to replay the old content I'd long-since forgotten.
Edit: corrected a name.
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Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^
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Sara Hysaro
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8/9/2015
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If you're already a Darling of the Ambassador's Ball I would choose "Acquainting yourself with the circle of the Shuttered Palace" so you are at the same place you were previously. Once you do that I believe you'll be directed to a storylet that allows you to respond to the previous stage of the Persuasive track. You won't necessarily get the perfect choice for your character (Madison deliberately skipped the romance in the Court, so that was a little awkward), but it does give a range of responses to pick from.
You could also choose "mixing with the cream" if you want to experience that content again. I don't recall it being very remarkable, but it's a perfectly valid choice too.
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Sara Hysaro
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8/9/2015
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I think mixing with the cream is all those steps that lead into you becoming a Darling of the Ambassador's ball. Not sure if the Thief or Heiress are a necessary step to that in the new system. Everything else seems right to me.
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Diptych
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Posts: 3493
8/9/2015
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Snowskeeper wrote:
I've found that there are many events necessary for advancement in this game which one needs to pretend never happened in order to maintain one's character's personality. I think the main reason this one feels different is that it appears the moment one logs in.
I could be misreading this situation entirely, though; I was done with the Court when this was introduced. I can certainly see why it doesn't feel good; I'm just not sure it was any worse than some of the other events in the game. Why would a born socialite stoop to theft, for example, and why would a dockside bruiser without a formal education head to Veilgarden to carouse with Bohemians and write eloquent poetry?
I think, essentially, it's being made clear that the nature of a Person of Some Importance - the very definition of progression through the game - is someone who is a saucy socialite and a winning prize-fighter and an accomplished cat-burglar and an eccentric scholar-detective. An accomplished adventurer, a debonair jack-of-all-trades - someone like middle-period Sherlock Holmes, complete with royal commissions, gangs of urchins, and library of monographs. If that's not even broadly the kind of character you want to play, well, I very much sympathise (I love playing within restrictions myself), but you're not going to reach Person of Some Importance-level story progress. If you want to stay a surly docker or an ineffectual poet, you'll just have to stay in Wolfstack or Veilgarden and forego ever becoming a dashing zee-captain or an influential press-baron.
(All that said - can one still pay Fate to skip POSI requirements? I don't remember how effective those options were and I don't know whether they're still in place. I hope they're still there - I'd quite like Doctor Taupe-Wainscot to reach POSI status through sheer virtue of mundanity.)
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genesis
Posts: 924
8/9/2015
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I wonder if at least some RP-confusion might ameliorated by changing the wording of the options from "You're [doing something]" to something like "Last you recall, you were considering [doing something]" (e.g. "Last you recall, you were considering acquainting yourself with the circles in the Shuttered Palace")
This is both less committing to what you had in fact done before and less committing to what you are in fact about to do, while clearly identifying a point for the Quality-setting purposes.
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xKiv
Posts: 846
8/9/2015
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I easily skipped some lower level stories with the old system, and the game was written like I finished them anyway. So I simply assumed that not playing them just means that they weren't included in the story, not that they didn't happen (much like we don't play our characters eating every breakfast, interacting with most postmen, or actually perform anything to earn their profession's wages)
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Snowskeeper
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8/9/2015
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I've found that there are many events necessary for advancement in this game which one needs to pretend never happened in order to maintain one's character's personality. I think the main reason this one feels different is that it appears the moment one logs in.
I could be misreading this situation entirely, though; I was done with the Court when this was introduced. I can certainly see why it doesn't feel good; I'm just not sure it was any worse than some of the other events in the game. Why would a born socialite stoop to theft, for example, and why would a dockside bruiser without a formal education head to Veilgarden to carouse with Bohemians and write eloquent poetry?
(That said: might have been better if it was just completely OoC.)
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