TheD3rp
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Okay, that will definitely not happen, but imagine this. 1945, the Allies are winning the war, and what the hell does Hitler do? He sells Berlin to the Masters! Wacky Nazi science, noir darker than any noir, crazy fascist government, revolutionaries represented by some spy cell stuck in Berlin when he fell, and dragons made from some sort of candy! Horrendous, terrifying, delicious, lovely!
I really don't think the Masters would be interested in a pile of rubble.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
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Achtung Lorn Flukes!!
But the city should be sold to save a dying love? Hitler specialised in hate, who did he love accept himself?
Raiseth Ascendant wrote:
Okay, that will definitely not happen, but imagine this. 1945, the Allies are winning the war, and what the hell does Hitler do? He sells Berlin to the Masters! Wacky Nazi science, noir darker than any noir, crazy fascist government, revolutionaries represented by some spy cell stuck in Berlin when he fell, and dragons made from some sort of candy! Horrendous, terrifying, delicious, lovely!
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Sara Hysaro
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Blondi?
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Pyrodinium
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Achtung Lorn Flukes!!
But the city should be sold to save a dying love? Hitler specialized in hate, who did he love accept himself?
They'll probably ignore Berlin but I think they would take Hitler since he would make a "good" Master or perhaps as a lieutenant. So good in fact, that Veils' will finally get his/her/its act together and try to mentor this youngster. He might even replace Pages' role given how "good" he controlled artistic and literary expressions during his rule.
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Raiseth Ascendant
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1/16/2016
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Does love for the idea counts? Or for the Third Reich or whatever?
That would certainly broaden the concept of love... Still, I see how it wouldn't work probably.
As for the pile of rubble... The Silver Tree profoundly shows us Karakorum was taken right in the middle of invasion of the city like nobody's business. Have anyone read Vertigo's Sandman? There was one issue the ruler of one Arabic city sold the dream of its height of power, and it was reduced to a hellhole shortly after. I always thought there was something between this and literal dragging below when Cities Fell.
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Tyrone
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1/16/2016
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I want Agartha
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Cotton Dee
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1/16/2016
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Fallen Angeles has my vote, for the irony of the Masters capturing a human story engine in the form of Hollywood. Also, the puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuns.
Cyberpunk Fallen Tokyo also has my vote, because it sounds wonderful.
Lastly, I'll throw in a vote for Fallen Rio, which would be exceptionally interesting.
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Lord Hoot
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1/16/2016
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I'd like the final city to be somewhere like Lagos in Nigeria. We haven't had a sub-saharan African fallen city yet. Lagos is a major metropolis, and perhaps would have grown even larger and more prosperous had the British Empire evaporated in the 19th century. It could have seized on the power vacuum in West Africa, and perhaps been spared the ravages of the conflict between the Anarchists and the Sequencers as it consumed the 'Neath and spilled over to the surface. Centuries later, when the apocalyptic wars of the 20th century are relegated to myth, would be the perfect time for the 'Neath and the Unterzee to be rediscovered.
Also Lagos is literally called 'Eko' in Yoruba. So the Eko Bazaar would be a thing.
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1/17/2016
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Achtung Lorn Flukes!!
But the city should be sold to save a dying love? Hitler specialised in hate, who did he love accept himself?
Raiseth Ascendant wrote:
Okay, that will definitely not happen, but imagine this. 1945, the Allies are winning the war, and what the hell does Hitler do? He sells Berlin to the Masters! Wacky Nazi science, noir darker than any noir, crazy fascist government, revolutionaries represented by some spy cell stuck in Berlin when he fell, and dragons made from some sort of candy! Horrendous, terrifying, delicious, lovely!
Now now, even Monsters sometime need more than a Mirror and a Locked Cellar...err, Bunker. In the case of the one with human appearance in Germany, he had Eva Braun.
Cotton Dee wrote:
Fallen Angeles has my vote, for the irony of the Masters capturing a human story engine in the form of Hollywood. Also, the puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuns.
Cyberpunk Fallen Tokyo also has my vote, because it sounds wonderful.
Lastly, I'll throw in a vote for Fallen Rio, which would be exceptionally interesting.
I'm leaning towards Los Angeles as the Seventh. It's literally named "the Entertainment capital of the World" for the (Delicious and Scandalous) Stories it generates.
if anything the contemporary era has taught us, we crave its news on everybody we want to hear stories from, and Humans are great at manufacturing Love Stories from "true" events the best (even if there somehow is nothing left of the original event when done as all movies teach us.)
Many of us know the disastrous events when Masters try to manufacture events to make stories; this is not a problem for (at the time in 1948, which may or may not need an adjustment depending on when the city falls,) the eight million stories in The Naked City (stop giggling Snow, this is a serious topic!)
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Kittenpox
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1/17/2016
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Raiseth Ascendant wrote:
Okay, that will definitely not happen, but imagine this. 1945, the Allies are winning the war, and what the hell does Hitler do? He sells Berlin to the Masters! Wacky Nazi science, noir darker than any noir, crazy fascist government, revolutionaries represented by some spy cell stuck in Berlin when he fell, and dragons made from some sort of candy! Horrendous, terrifying, delicious, lovely!
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Achtung Lorn Flukes!!
But the city should be sold to save a dying love? Hitler specialised in hate, who did he love accept himself?
Without wanting to derail the conversation much, I feel that I should point out that Adolf Hitler, despite all the atrocious things he's done, was still human. As uncomfortable a truth as that is, he wasn't some kind of infernal hate machine. He was just a man, with some pretty horrible views about how the world should be.
^ In case you've ever felt the need to experience flirty Hitler gifs, you're welcome!
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Kittenpox
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As for the seventh city? So long as it's not 'Fallen Ibiza', I think we should be okay. :-p
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Tyrone
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1/17/2016
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Hopefully Detroit, since it'd be an improvement.
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dov
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Kittenpox wrote:
As for the seventh city? So long as it's not 'Fallen Ibiza', I think we should be okay. :-p
Who knows? Maybe it will be Fallen Copacabana, and the love story that the Bazaar is after would be Lola's and Tony's... :-)
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Kittenpox
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dov wrote:
Kittenpox wrote:
As for the seventh city? So long as it's not 'Fallen Ibiza', I think we should be okay. :-p
Who knows? Maybe it will be Fallen Copacabana, and the love story that the Bazaar is after would be Lola's and Tony's... :-)
Alas, "This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." - because apparently being an Aussie means I live in Narnia. -_-
But I'm sure it's a nice video nonetheless.
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Pyrodinium
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1/17/2016
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Tyrone wrote:
Hopefully Detroit, since it'd be an improvement.
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The Glass Boffin
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Kittenpox wrote:
Raiseth Ascendant wrote:
Okay, that will definitely not happen, but imagine this. 1945, the Allies are winning the war, and what the hell does Hitler do? He sells Berlin to the Masters! Wacky Nazi science, noir darker than any noir, crazy fascist government, revolutionaries represented by some spy cell stuck in Berlin when he fell, and dragons made from some sort of candy! Horrendous, terrifying, delicious, lovely!
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Achtung Lorn Flukes!!
But the city should be sold to save a dying love? Hitler specialised in hate, who did he love accept himself?
Without wanting to derail the conversation much, I feel that I should point out that Adolf Hitler, despite all the atrocious things he's done, was still human. As uncomfortable a truth as that is, he wasn't some kind of infernal hate machine. He was just a man, with some pretty horrible views about how the world should be.
^ In case you've ever felt the need to experience flirty Hitler gifs, you're welcome!
I would like to add that recent findings show he was probably drugged out of his gourd by his private doctor. Upper and downers of all kinds, in a war where amphetamines were like candy for soldiers, allegedly on both sides. So Fallen Berlin doesn't sound like it will work that well.
Fallen Tokyo though? I can get behind that. Mainly because Japanese media and writers churn out some of the craziest and in-depth love stories. Practically all of their popular fiction seems to deal with love in some form (The greeks were great at classifying the dizzying kinds). And if you want a cultural tradition of bizarre eros to rival and exceed the Mycologene school??? Yup, Tokyo is your place.
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TheD3rp
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One thing that I think should be pointed out is London is the first Fall that would probably have a major effect on history. All the other cities haven't altered history all that much, as is evidenced by history remaining mostly the same right up until the Fall of London. However, now that the capital of the largest empire in the world is gone, we are seeing serious deviations from our history. It is doubtful that Hitler will ever rise to power in this universe, for example.
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TheThirdPolice
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London's Fall has definitely altered history, but I suspect the previous Falls did as well. The game's focus on London (and the lightest brush at Europe above) just makes it difficult to see their effects. Evidence for this: Moonish visions of an alternate never-fallen London still show major deviations from our own world.
First City — The actual historical evidence is so thin that it would be difficult to judge the effects of its fall. And it's possible it fell at the same time of its real-world collapse anyway.
Second City — The in-game story could easily slot into the real world history as well, so there's no reason this would change anything.
Third City — There's a limit to how much New World changes could affect the present day, when they happen pre-genocide. At least on the scale of empires and nations rather than culture.
Fourth City — This one might have lent a different flavor to the decline of Mongol rule. Its ripples would mostly be seen in Asia and Eastern Europe, though, which we know very little about in game.
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Raiseth Ascendant
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The Glass Boffin wrote:
Kittenpox wrote:
Raiseth Ascendant wrote:
Okay, that will definitely not happen, but imagine this. 1945, the Allies are winning the war, and what the hell does Hitler do? He sells Berlin to the Masters! Wacky Nazi science, noir darker than any noir, crazy fascist government, revolutionaries represented by some spy cell stuck in Berlin when he fell, and dragons made from some sort of candy! Horrendous, terrifying, delicious, lovely!
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Achtung Lorn Flukes!!
But the city should be sold to save a dying love? Hitler specialised in hate, who did he love accept himself?
Without wanting to derail the conversation much, I feel that I should point out that Adolf Hitler, despite all the atrocious things he's done, was still human. As uncomfortable a truth as that is, he wasn't some kind of infernal hate machine. He was just a man, with some pretty horrible views about how the world should be.
^ In case you've ever felt the need to experience flirty Hitler gifs, you're welcome!
I would like to add that recent findings show he was probably drugged out of his gourd by his private doctor. Upper and downers of all kinds, in a war where amphetamines were like candy for soldiers, allegedly on both sides. So Fallen Berlin doesn't sound like it will work that well.
Hm. Maybe so, but Fallen London now hosts many sinfully interested in Prisoner's Honey ( which sounds like some sort of magical opium ), so why not LSDs that literally enable you to resolve conflicts via dreamfighting? Definitely not family-friendly, but I never actually think of possibility of another Fallen game seriously.
Fallen Berlin just sounds so darn awesome
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The Glass Boffin
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Raiseth Ascendant wrote:
Hm. Maybe so, but Fallen London now hosts many sinfully interested in Prisoner's Honey ( which sounds like some sort of magical opium ), so why not LSDs that literally enable you to resolve conflicts via dreamfighting? Definitely not family-friendly, but I never actually think of possibility of another Fallen game seriously.
Fallen Berlin just sounds so darn awesome z
True... imagine, a world where the Weimar republic did not morph into Nazi Germany. While I can't find a lot of blatant sources, again and again I find it referenced as being "decadent". What is Fallen London without its decadence? Fallen Berlin...
I still like Fallen Tokyo for 7th. Although I wonder what relics of the 5th and 6th would look like? We have the coins, we have the tablets, we have the cinnabar beads and granite idols, and we have the horse-heads.
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