Brad O'Connell
Posts: 72
6/18/2015
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So, what is the official ruling on what is permissible with alts? I've seen the terms and conditions which state:
Failbetter Games may suspend the accounts of any users it deems to be engaging in malicious or inappropriate conduct. Such Conduct includes but is not limited to:
use of secondary accounts to harass other players or gain competitive advantage
I'm not really sure anything in this game could truly be considered competitive. That aside, the only way I can think of that would allow a secondary account to provide advantage would be through social actions and K&C. Both of these don't provide any opportunities presented by another player, barring speed of acceptance. So is using alts to gain second chances kosher? Is using an alt to win at K&C allowed? If that is not permitted, is coming to an agreement with another player to win K&C then also not allowed? Or am I missing something entirely?
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Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751
6/18/2015
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Been using alts forever - second chances, occasional nightmare swap, dinners.
It is more about convenience and less about advantages, though. "I want to stock up some second chances before tackling this fate-locked story I just bought and don't want to wait a week to play chess."
I think some of the SMEN crowd was churning out alts to betray (very high requirements and definitely not grindable in a week) because the only way forward is to invite non-participating players (that become ineligible for further invitations), so the FBG response is to give them alternative way to progress instead.
I once had an alt that had a few other alts feeding it First City Coins. It was just an account for giving away coins though - and the coins are still sitting there.
K&C is definitely a no, because you are definitely gaining an advantage that regular players won't have playing normally.
Purposely having alts lose to you is almost certainly not ok.
Making a lot of alts to stab one player specifically (in Iron League) is very definitely absolutely no.
Chances are, as long as you don't try to run circles around Fate or PvP or open 10000 alts all cherry-picking Neath's Mysteries to feed your main you should be fine.
edited by Estelle Knoht on 6/18/2015
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Owen Wulf
Posts: 715
6/19/2015
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To be frank, while it would be ideal that such exploits were not possible I believe that Failbetter would be severely hampered attempting to enforce any rules regarding such. This especially so if they fear angering paying players that simply want more characters to play with.
I admit to coordinating my characters for benefits such as leveling, assistance with stories, gathering First City Coins and, in my most egregious offense, acquiring a Waxwail Knife by skimming the tokens gained by my alts. I listed that last part as one of my great failures back on one forum and so rarely use the weapon.
That said, I have not gained any benefit that another player could not have attained on their own. Indeed, many of these efforts were mundane and boring and stuff I would not want to bother another player with. The only time exploiting alts was a serious danger to Failbetter was back when all new players got 10 Fate and said Fate could be sent to another character. One intrepid soul (who subsequently got on the train to Hell) used this method to buy Sunless Sea back when we could do that with Fate. Now? We cannot transfer just 10 Fate, it has to be 100.
What I am saying is that Failbetter's top concern is ensuring players cannot use their alts to gain access to things another player could not - primarily Fate Content. For a free to play game, this is vital. As long as that line is not crossed, feel free to have alts and to have them send valentine gifts to each other if you're a lonely cad like myself just because it's convenient.
If you wish to absolve yourself of guilt, try buying fate for new content on your alt so that you and Failbetter both benefit from the alt's use. That is simply all you would need to do.
In the meantime, I get to have fun with more Ambitions. Word on the street, your Heart's Desire may yet be at hand...
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edited by Owen Wulf on 6/19/2015
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"Many" Chin
Posts: 383
6/19/2015
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i created my alts mostly to pursue different ambitions and storylets based on stats other than dangerous/watchful. but otherwise i also use them to help keep making wave up, or reduce scandalous which a menance that is harder to get rid of without the "dupe" option. anyways the duping helps in increasing making waves for the "duped", so it balances out?
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Sara Hysaro
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6/18/2015
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I generally send social actions to myself for things that require semi-precise timing, such as Newspaper interviews. One account benefits while the other basically wastes an action. I don't think it's abusive since I'm just as likely to use my main to benefit an alt as I am to do the opposite.
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