Jermaine Vendredi
Posts: 588
9/21/2016
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xKiv wrote:
Even if you completely reload the browser tab?
(my cards refresh even there, but sometimes, especially in days of great lag, the code that periodically paints fuller hands (and changes the next-card-or-turn-timer display) gets stuck and doesn't show any changes.
Well, that's an interesting point. For at least two weeks, achingly slow performance has been a real problem for me, and I sometimes just give up and go do something else. (The refresh also takes ages, so I run out of patience.)
Thanks -- I'll take that into account in my observations.
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edited by Jermaine Vendredi on 9/21/2016
edited by Jermaine Vendredi on 9/21/2016
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Wiwo
Posts: 365
9/21/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
On the subject of science and card refreshing when switching areas, any Cider owners up for some science? If my math is right, you could instakill yourself through the carnival mirror with two cards then instantly leave the slow boat to gain eight cards in two actions. Given how good the Cider cards are, it might actually be more profitable to repeatedly die for extra cards. Plus if there are any options with above-average profitability moderated by wounds gain, the profit might go up even further.
Science performed. It worked just as you described, netting 6 cards for 2 actions. If you have 3 cards in your deck, it takes you all the way up to 10 when you return, netting 7 cards for 2 actions. Probably not worth it from a profit standpoint even if your deck is pretty optimized since you're still losing 2*[Grind EPA], 5 carnival tickets, and all your Iron Knife Tokens (if any) in opportunity cost, but it's still a handy trick if you're fishing for a particular card.
Thoughts on wounds-mediated profit to follow in an hour or two.
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Optimatum
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9/21/2016
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So the math described earlier in the thread of exiting a special location more than doubling doesn't hold here? Huh.
Math-wise, if your grind is AotB, you're losing three actions of potential each go (going there, back, stealing tickets) so you'd need to make at least 4.92 echoes from the difference in profit on good cards. The breaking even point would go down if you bought tickets with hints or clues, though I'm not sure by how much given you'd have to grind the input items. The most common notable cards will be the cider ones, which give 0.86 echoes over AotB; with the three-action estimate it would take six of those cards to make a profit. Interesting.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
9/21/2016
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The Feast of the Rose is a fairly good time to pick up Tickets, though you'd have to do it a ton to make up for the fact it's 5x every time through.
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Optimatum
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9/21/2016
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What's the rate for getting tickets at the Feast?
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Wiwo
Posts: 365
9/21/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
What's the rate for getting tickets at the Feast?
Here you go. It's 10/action plus a Tale of Terror with a pretty high quality rare success to boot.
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Saklad
Posts: 528
9/22/2016
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That’s quite convenient, as the Feast of the Exceptional Rose is one of the most important times to have Opportunity Cards on hand.
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Koenig
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9/24/2016
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I am somewhat new to doing heists, but is it just me or are the rewards from these set on some kind of hidden carousel? Every time I get the searing enigmas as a reward they come in pairs after long sessions of getting nothing but love stories. All six of the enigma's I have farmed from this method have follow this rule (2 enigma's, on after the another, followed by several "failed" love story rewards (around 50-100, I did not keep exact notes). Granted this could just be an RNG anomaly.
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