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12/1/2018
Yuuup, sucks. God knows when I'm actually gonna get to use my doomsday device on Mr Ve- "The Vake"...
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ChangelingChilde
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12/2/2018
Isaac Gates wrote:
Yuuup, sucks. God knows when I'm actually gonna get to use my doomsday device on Mr Ve- "The Vake"...

Probably long after I've finished Seeking Big Grin

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Aro Saren
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6/12/2021
Arise from your grave, thread.

I'm updating the list, more info is needed.

* A rework of the unusual Connected qualities - Widow, Duchess, University and Masters.
* Closest to: The Masters, The Duchess, The University

* Intimidating... - may be removed
* Growing... - just a single "turnip", really?

* Third season of Knife and Candle - apparently, won't happen
* Tier 5 Professions - removed, erased and banned from existence with extreme prejudice
* Sultan's Dream - probably won't ever resurface
* An Expedition: Seeking an Infernal Picnic
* Engaged in a Case: the Other Wax-Work, the Copper Thumb, the Early Grave, the Man with the Mirrors, the Crooked Bridge
* Your Quarry: A Keeper-Moth and Something from the Roof (Contracts at the Department of menace eradication.)
* Sixth and Seventh Coils in the Labyrinth of Tigers
* Locked Unterzee destinations:
-- The Pillars - apparently, soon-ish, since Irem is hinted
-- The East
* The “Follow cold trails and the suspicion of footprints” option in “Hunting across London”
* The “There's definitely something in it” option on “A Theosophistical Decision” (to unlock the continuation of the Theosophistical Society storyline)
* Keys to Your Future (A Bringer of Death, Empire's Kingmaker, Hellfarer, Fist of the Bazaar) - apparently, dropped
* Caught in the Gear's Teeth (part of Playing with Broken Toys storyline) - orphaned and forgotten, since Daughter's storyline is concluded
* Dreams - ending/second tier of Chess, Water, Someone There
* The Blind Pianist and the Sallow Spirifer - completely forgotten
* The Wars of Illusion - possibly superseded by Parabolan Wars, with loose ends declared not loose
* Leather Hearts (extracted from Jack, somehow linked to the Revolutionaries) - most likely noone cares and never cared
* The Interpreter of Dreams (Consultations for non-Water and non-Strategy dreams missing)
* The Numismatrix - un-fleshed still while presented to be important
* The Implacable Detective and whatever happened with the key in the well on Hunter’s Keep - looks like a forced tie-in to add at least some depth to Detective's campaign
* The nature of the maid and the thing at the bottom of the well on Hunter’s Keep - ma-aybe in Zeefarer
* The Ambassador - hinted to be important, but the storyline is a stub, and most likely what plans existed were never written down
* False-summer - referenced, but not encountered
* [strike]The lack of foxes in London (in-game, as the Mysteries answer claims there is in-game basis for the lore)[/strike] Mentioned in Fate Sackmas story.
* Drudgewick - ???

* A Nocturnal Visitor to the Palace Cellars - just cuts off
* Metempsychosis - currently the very long term plans
edited by Aro Saren on 6/13/2021

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PSGarak
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6/12/2021
Aro Saren wrote:

* The Pickpocket's Promenade in Veilgarden - wasn't it removed?

That was part of Spite, not Veilgarden. It's now a sub-location near Spite, named "The Crowds of Spite."
Aro Saren wrote:

* A Nocturnal Visitor to the Palace Cellars - just cuts off

Arguably the conclusion of this storyline is the premium story The Gift. But there's no explicit connection. I wouldn't be opposed if they just added a pointer from Palace Cellars to The Gift and called it a day.

You might add Metampsychosis to the list. It definitely hasn't been dropped, but it's been pushed back a few times.

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PJ
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6/12/2021
One of the the fate-locked Mr Sacks options features a group of rats who are indignant that there is a fox in London, in violation of the agreement between the rats and the Masters. And now I've told you all the lore-relevant parts of that story. So it is in the game, at least a little bit.

(I don't have time to go hunting for it now, but the echoes from that story are in my journal for the time of the most recent Sacksmass)
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MidnightVoyager
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6/12/2021
PSGarak wrote:
Aro Saren wrote:

* The Pickpocket's Promenade in Veilgarden - wasn't it removed?

That was part of Spite, not Veilgarden. It's now a sub-location near Spite, named "The Crowds of Spite."
Aro Saren wrote:

* A Nocturnal Visitor to the Palace Cellars - just cuts off

Arguably the conclusion of this storyline is the premium story The Gift. But there's no explicit connection. I wouldn't be opposed if they just added a pointer from Palace Cellars to The Gift and called it a day.


You might add Metampsychosis to the list. It definitely hasn't been dropped, but it's been pushed back a few times.


Nocturnal Visitor's card needs to go away when it ends. Badly.

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Wojciech
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6/12/2021
Adrift on the Sea of Misery still had no use, while the description hints it might have, one day.

And I won’t mention the Crimson Book.

Also, we have no further visibility on the Cumean Channel and other mentioned ways to discontinue one’s character and start a new one with some legacy.

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Tigerfort
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6/12/2021
Wojciech wrote:
And I won’t mention the Crimson Book.


The recent reappearance of a way to acquire said book suggests to me that someone has a use in mind for it.
It could just be helping fill out the ranks of high-value items, although the fact that there's currently no way of selling it implies otherwise.

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34Witches
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6/13/2021
Tigerfort wrote:
It could just be helping fill out the ranks of high-value items, although the fact that there's currently no way of selling it implies otherwise.
You can sell it at the Bazaar, for 625 Touching Love Stories (it's easy to miss, since it's not sorted with the rest of the 1.5k echo items).

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Aro Saren
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6/13/2021
PSGarak wrote:
Aro Saren wrote:

* The Pickpocket's Promenade in Veilgarden - wasn't it removed?


That was part of Spite, not Veilgarden. It's now a sub-location near Spite, named "The Crowds of Spite."

One of the route options there was Veilgarden. It was also impo-locked.
Finally back in London and checked - it's removed from options.



Wojciech wrote:
Adrift on the Sea of Misery still had no use, while the description hints it might have, one day.


That just a fluff - it highlights that kindness must be a continual process. I almost never interpreted as a game hint.
Also, it is used as an unlock at one or two points. I think, one was a Church card.

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genesis
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6/14/2021
Thanks! I've updated the OP. For posterity here is the list of things that I removed as resolved:

* Final update for each Ambition
* Ability to sell lodgings
* Return of De Gustibus
* Target Security: Well-Guarded (A Heist at the Flit)
* “Establish a Parabolan Base-Camp” (in Veilgarden)
* The “Waiting for the Watchmaker's Daughter!” option on “Devices and Desires” (to unlock the continuation of the Watchmaker's Daughter storyline)
* “Enjoy Scones at Beatrice's Tea Shop” (Social action at your Lodgings) -> "Share a pot of tea at Beatrice's Tea Shop"
* Advancing the Liberation of Night
* Dreams (Fire and Dreams of the Dead)
* Life at the University after recovering your reputation? - This is satisfied through the Laboratory
* Gilded Crustacean

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Aro Saren
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6/14/2021
Also add:
* Mr Stones and Discordance machinations

* Mr Spices' pregnancy

You can get Closest to Rubberies, but you need Helicon House.
Noise was preventing an advance during a case, I think?

"Seek assistance" was retired during the previous social rebalance.
Lyme sounds fleshed-out enough for a background character.
Heptagoat was a joke. Though you can get an actual Heptagoat.
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genesis
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6/14/2021
The pregnancy is part of Watchful 230 but sure, I'll clarify. Can you remind me what Mr Stones Discordance machinations are? Do you just mean the Lapidary and the Immaterial Material exchange?.. I didn't think there was much mystery to it but perhaps I've been inattentive!

Yes, "Seek assistance" was retired at that point but the *cause* of its retirement has since been rectified. So there is *some* chance; though I admit not a lot.

Lyme - I can't source this now (it's information more than 6 years old now!) but there was a discussion at the time that there were suspicious loose ends and implications of more secrets. I can't recall any more than that unfortunately.

Good catch on Closest: Rubberies!
edited by genesis on 6/14/2021

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Aro Saren
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6/14/2021
genesis wrote:
The pregnancy is part of Watchful 230 but sure, I'll clarify. Can you remind me what Mr Stones Discordance machinations are? Do you just mean the Lapidary and the Immaterial Material exchange?.. I didn't think there was much mystery to it but perhaps I've been inattentive!

When you ask Baroness-Solicitor about the Cedar with fully backed currency, she warns you: to keep distance from the moon, to not let the tree wilt and to not let Stones finish what it started. Tree is obvious, moon (Creditor) is just creepy and alien, but Stones' eagerness in things that unmake boundaries (in it's own words) is alarming.

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PSGarak
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6/15/2021
Aro Saren wrote:
When you ask Baroness-Solicitor about the Cedar with fully backed currency, she warns you: to keep distance from the moon, to not let the tree wilt and to not let Stones finish what it started. Tree is obvious, moon (Creditor) is just creepy and alien, but Stones' eagerness in things that unmake boundaries (in it's own words) is alarming.

One more thing which caught my eye. Might not be related to Mr Stones, but it seemed prominent enough that it must be related to something.

When you're deciding what to do about founding the city, and you're talking to all the folks. You can talk to Your Lackey if he's head of the tracklayers. For whatever reason, his conversation options weren't accessible from Ealing, but you could still talk to him by appointing him.

This dialogue option in particular. The second paragraph, about the ring. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/22626597

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Toran
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6/15/2021
Aro Saren wrote:
genesis wrote:
The pregnancy is part of Watchful 230 but sure, I'll clarify. Can you remind me what Mr Stones Discordance machinations are? Do you just mean the Lapidary and the Immaterial Material exchange?.. I didn't think there was much mystery to it but perhaps I've been inattentive!


When you ask Baroness-Solicitor about the Cedar with fully backed currency, she warns you: to keep distance from the moon, to not let the tree wilt and to not let Stones finish what it started. Tree is obvious, moon (Creditor) is just creepy and alien, but Stones' eagerness in things that unmake boundaries (in it's own words) is alarming.


I thought there was a bit of recent content in the Make a City story that stated the Moon is the Creditor's... sibling-ish thing? It was something about using Kataleptic Toxicology and having visions from the poison.

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Aro Saren
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6/16/2021
Basically, the Creditor is a chunk broken from the Moon. Or separated by a star decree.

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phryne
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6/16/2021
Can we please use spoiler tags in this thread when discussing content only recently released? upset

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MidnightVoyager
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6/16/2021
Aro Saren wrote:
Basically, the Creditor is a chunk broken from the Moon. Or separated by a star decree.


First off, [spoiler]you've got it backwards.[/spoiler]

Secondly, I kinda thought this summary was for stuff that seemed abandoned, not just stories that they haven't finished yet and not everyone has even finished.

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genesis
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6/16/2021
Agreed, I think the thread has somewhat strayed

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