Siankan
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11/27/2018
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Isaac Gates wrote:
Wow... the fact that this thread is three years old and none of the things in the "told to expect" section have happened yet does not inspire confidence.
Genesis updates the list regularly, removing things that have, in fact, been implemented (and very occasionally adding something new). If you want to see what's been done you don't want to look at the opening list; you need to read through the subsequent posts to see what has been removed.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
11/27/2018
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Recently on the Discord, Hannah mentioned that De Gustibus will probably return eventually, so that might be worth adding.
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* More content in the Elder Continent and Parabola settings (the latter with its own map!)
What does "its own map" mean, exactly?
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PSGarak
Posts: 834
11/27/2018
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Optimatum wrote:
What does "its own map" mean, exactly?
Like how London has a map, with locations such as Watchmaker's Hill and the Flit. As opposed to how the Zee has many locations but does not have a map, and uses stories and actions to navigate around.
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Siankan
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11/27/2018
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Isaac Gates wrote:
Wow... the fact that this thread is three years old and none of the things in the "told to expect" section have happened yet does not inspire confidence.
I would also point out that this year's Hallowmas story on Arbor included
genesis wrote:
More content in the Elder Continent and Parabola settings.
Both settings, for extra points. However, statements like this are never really going to go away unless Failbetter comes and says "We've completed everything; there is nothing more to learn about Parabola" and makes us all weep. Thus, even when an item is on the list you can't necessarily take that to mean that nothing has been done about it.
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Optimatum
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11/27/2018
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PSGarak wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
What does "its own map" mean, exactly?
Like how London has a map, with locations such as Watchmaker's Hill and the Flit. As opposed to how the Zee has many locations but does not have a map, and uses stories and actions to navigate around.
Does anyone know the source for that detail?
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PSGarak
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11/27/2018
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Optimatum wrote:
PSGarak wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
What does "its own map" mean, exactly?
Like how London has a map, with locations such as Watchmaker's Hill and the Flit. As opposed to how the Zee has many locations but does not have a map, and uses stories and actions to navigate around.
Does anyone know the source for that detail?
My source is probably the post from genesis in the following forum thread:
http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24215-parabolan-base-camp.aspx
That claims to have gotten the fact from an AMA, I assume on Reddit. Closest I can find is the following reply from Alexis, which makes a weaker claim about mapping Parabola, but without mechanical details:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4fi67d/were_failbetter_games_makers_of_sunless_sea_and/d291ld5
So, I dunno. Wouldn't the first time this community (or any other game community) reads too much detail into a dev post and then those imputed details become accepted as canon. At least in Fallen London it's appropriate to the setting!
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Azothi
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11/27/2018
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Alexis is the source for the "map of Parabola" and further content on the Elder Continent. This was from around the time that he was stepping down in responsibilities and handing the keys over to Chris Gardiner for directing the narrative of Fallen London, and so it's very old information (nearly 5 years by this point). This was after Sunless Sea first entered development.
The source is from [REDACTED], the other thing we don't speak of. The similar wording implies to me that this is genesis's primary source.
Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Anyway, you can reasonably expect to see more of the Elder Continent. We keep talking about that, and about the map of Parabola.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
11/28/2018
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Hm. I'm asking because I suspect
[spoiler]that the supposed Parabola map would be part of the [REDACTED] you cite.[/spoiler]
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genesis
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11/28/2018
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Optimatum wrote:
Hm. I'm asking because I suspect
I don't see anything suggesting such a restriction there, personally... It's all about the main game content.
The link that PSGarak posted is a completely unredacted confirmation. I don't agree that it doesn't contain any mechanical details. "You might eventually see a map of Parabola in the game." is pretty clear to me. Yes, it's slightly weaker in that it only says "might" but certainly combined with the redacted comment, I think it's pretty clear.
I'll add De Gustibus. It was already implicitly there under the "Particular day in the neath" content but I agree that, especially with hannah's comment, it's worth making it explicit.
Can anyone in London (I am at Zee) confirm that we have a new Heist level? Should I add it, or give FBG some leeway to actually implement it first before considering it a "loose end"?
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Kharsirr Lynx
Posts: 318
11/28/2018
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genesis wrote:
Can anyone in London (I am at Zee) confirm that we have a new Heist level? Should I add it, or give FBG some leeway to actually implement it first before considering it a "loose end"?
It's here.
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genesis
Posts: 924
11/28/2018
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I am also going to add the whole confusing thing abut the Implacable Detective and the key in the well.
ETA: And Notability gifts are back too, now!
edited by genesis on 11/30/2018
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PSGarak
Posts: 834
11/28/2018
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A new Exceptional Story comes out tomorrow, and it's part of a new Season. I would guess the new Heist is part of that content.
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Optimatum
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11/28/2018
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genesis wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
Hm. I'm asking because I suspect
I don't see anything suggesting such a restriction there, personally... It's all about the main game content.
The link that PSGarak posted is a completely unredacted confirmation. I don't agree that it doesn't contain any mechanical details. "You might eventually see a map of Parabola in the game." is pretty clear to me. Yes, it's slightly weaker in that it only says "might" but certainly combined with the redacted comment, I think it's pretty clear.
[spoiler]My point is that I suspect the references to a map of Parabola are really references to expanding Enigma, rather than new normal content. Mostly because of the panoptic mirror-map, plus some other assorted cartography/Enigma ties.[/spoiler]
PSGarak wrote:
A new Exceptional Story comes out tomorrow, and it's part of a new Season. I would guess the new Heist is part of that content.
Considering we were told the Envoy's story would continue, I doubt Failbetter would restrict the rest of the story to Fate-locked content.
edited by Optimatum on 11/28/2018
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Rostygold
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11/29/2018
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Rostygold wrote:
Since the option to give a point of Notability was frozen due to problems with the now-defunct mobile version, can it be returned, please?
This option's back. Yippee!
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Guest
11/29/2018
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What's this new heist you speak of? I see no such thing.
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PSGarak
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11/29/2018
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Isaac Gates wrote:
What's this new heist you speak of? I see no such thing.
There's no place to start it, even with an "Impossible!" lock-out. But, if you select an existing Heist, you can see the list of available Heists by looking at possible values of the "Planning a Heist" that unlock the storylet. That list has a new value.
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Guest
11/29/2018
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Ah. Little anticlimactic, but alright then.
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ChangelingChilde
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12/1/2018
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When will the Ambitions finish, any idea?
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12/1/2018
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Nope, nobody does. Best guess: probably not any time soon.
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ChangelingChilde
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12/1/2018
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Damn
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I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
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