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BlakeTheDrake
BlakeTheDrake
Posts: 237

5/3/2015
As a newly-minted PoSI, I feel that a starting-guide to Making Waves is something one could sorely need. The Wiki hosts many useful guides, but not to that. I have heard of the things people use to reach the highest levels of Notability - things like running a Salon or a newspaper. But what if you just want to reach 2-3 Notability in order to access a second-tier job, and don't have access to any of that stuff yet?

So far, during the course of normal play, I've never reached more than 12-14 MW before Time, the Healer came by and erased most of my progress. That's not enough, even for the FIRST point of Notability, at least not with the level of Dreaded/Respectable/Bizarre I've got access to.

So, what are the smart play for 'entry-level' wave-making? Simple ways to reach something like 20-25 MW in a week, without access to advanced resources. That sort of thing.

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The Machinist
The Machinist
Posts: 83

5/3/2015
As a fledgeling PoSI, you have a lot of new opportunities to increase BDR. Affiliations like God's Editors, transportation, a club; a whole new half of your inventory opens up. Because each level of MW takes more to advance than the last, increasing BDR is a very powerful option, and one you should be exploring.

Additionally, as a PoSI, you'll begin to draw A Polite Invitation from your deck. It's a card that leads to an area that allows you to slowly grind up things like a Personal Recommendation or Favours in High Places. No matter how much time you spend there, leaving always gets you 20 MW.
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RandomWalker
RandomWalker
Posts: 948

5/3/2015
Getting BDR is by far the best starting strategy when starting out as a POSI. Notability is nice, but it is very expensive in the beginning.

If you want a tier 2 profession, consider writing an exceptional short story and becoming an author. You can do this before you even become POSI, and the rewards will be useful when you're finally ready to grind in seriousness.

If you must get that second / third point of notability, grab the low-hanging fruit of BDR as mentioned above, and then find the best way that works for your stats. You can get a pile for 'free' by inviting a friend to an evening with you from your lodgings, for the cost of a free evening. You get five of those a week, so do it. Otherwise, if you're persuasive enough, the court has a fairly easy 1MW/action option that is terribly slow, but might even be your best bet. Alternatively, grinding out Tales of Terror in the Flit, and converting them might work out, or gathering supplies to do a lot of poetry in the Singing Mandrake...

The BDR thing is no joke. Let's say that you're after your second point of notability, and have no BDR gear. You need level 28 MWs. If your best grind is 1cp MW / action (and it could well be lower than that at this stage), then you need 406 actions over the course of a week, entirey dedicated to making waves. Get 10 points of BDR (not too hard - you can buy some BDR gear from the Bazaar, and God's Editors, for example, has relatively low requirements), and you need level 18 MW, or 171 actions.

Even that is a lot, and the rewards of a second-tier profession just aren't that great. Do it if you want, but holding out is less frustrating in the long run.
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RandomWalker
RandomWalker
Posts: 948

5/3/2015
Continuing the thought above about costs, your third point with no BDR gear would cost 528 actions. That's 88 hours' worth of actions over the course of a week.

Getting MWs for your second point with 20 BDR would cost you 5 actions (you can get there from zero just by inviting a friend to your lodgings).

Max BDR is currently 33, but a lot of it is fate-locked. If you have 33 BDR, the second notability point is free. As is the third. And the fourth. When you get the notability, your MWs get set at the point required to hold it for a week, so the first three notability points at 33 BDR don't cost you MWs, they give them. In fact, the third point gives enough MWs to get the fourth point of notability.

Short form: get BDR gear, and keep getting BDR gear.
edited by RandomWalker on 5/3/2015
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RandomWalker
RandomWalker
Posts: 948

5/3/2015
Side conversion is very useful. I don't like it because of all the screen-reloads, and it tends to be low profit and no skill improvements, but it's good for MW, definitely.

Let's see: face, best in slot BDR is shared between two items, bought by fate during the Feast of the Exceptional Rose. Other options: buying from the bazaar, or a profession item (which isn't relevant for this discussion).

Clothes, you have lots of options, many of them quite cheap.

Gloves: either fate-locked during the FotER or echoes with the bazaar.

Weapons: +1 BDR you already have, +2 can be gotten from the iron republic journal, +3 from Fate during FotER

Boots: one choice only, and that's echoes from the bazaar.

Companions: +1 you already have. +2 is either a LOT of money (Overgoat) or the Unfinished hat, or fate during the FotER. +4 is fate plus a hideous amount of money, or fate plus a lot of work (bifurcated owl).

Does that help?
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Grenem
Grenem
Posts: 2067

5/4/2015
BlakeTheDrake wrote:
Hmm... seems like most of the main-slot upgrades available are either too expensive, or too much trouble for a mere +1, Or limited to the Feast, which is a bloody long time away... it was just winding down when I started playing. Shame I didn't know then what I know now, or I might've picked up a few things...

Either way, I'd best focus on getting the second-page slots filled out.

it's not a 'mere +1', +1's are really significant. that said, yeah, you would be better going for POSI stuff that offers +2 or +4 first- but there's only 6 points worth of (relatively) inexpensive BDR items under POSI item- zubmarine and yacht are both really pricey, and should be put off for last, they also only offer a +2 at the most. (not counting the shrine to saint joshua, a +1 in an otherwise BDR-free slot, i believe, but it is based on 3rd teir profession.)

then, once that's done, buy 1 point's worth of every item slot in your main inventory. (you should be good for +1 BDR pets already.) if you finish the bejewled cane sidequest earlier, where someone keeps mooching glim off of you, that's one down. lenguals are the ideal glove (fateless, at least) for shadowy anyways, so they're a good early purchase, the same is true for persuasive with the feccund amber tiara or it's dreadful counterpart, and dangerous with far khanate laquered armour. this leaves shoes as the thing to put off for last, since they cost a small fortune just for the point BDR, and aren't best in category like the others. skip this, if you wish, but if you'll need notability 5 for the 3rd teir profession, it... probably won't pay for itself on that alone. (~400 echoes)
that is where i am, at 12 points BDR, not counting the one from the festival or saint joshua's shrine.

there will then be sidequests, mostly at zee, which will unlock +2 equipment- and the overgoat, which costs so much it's not really viable to help with even notability 15, unless you want an ovegoat anyways. obviously, i'm ignoring fate options, like the rubbery consort, but that's about it.
edited by Grenem on 5/4/2015
edited by Grenem on 5/4/2015
edited by Grenem on 5/4/2015

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marcmagus
marcmagus
Posts: 168

5/7/2015
I'm at about the same point you are, having achieved POSI sometime in the last week, although as I spent some time writing short stories during my days in the Veilgarden, I am not seeking promotion as you are. In any case, while poor timing of Time the Healer and the Amanuensis has left me yet without my first point of Notability (soon to change, as soon as I can get a bit more MW), I can attest that the advice given here regarding BDR is highly appropriate, having seen the numbers shift for myself. Each point of BDR is basically a permanent level of Making Waves, so, yeah, great.

In any case, the things that I found easy to pick up within my first week of POSI:

A Clay Sedan Chair was quite inexpensive for +2 Bizarre, once I met those nice clay men in the tea shop. I was positively loaded with the necessaries to head down to the Clay Quarters and convince the requisite number to come work for me; in fact, I contracted a couple of extras in anticipation of future needs.

Membership in God's Editors for +4 Respectable was offered to me as soon as I met one of the Editors, given my previous record as an author. Your situation may of course vary, but it sounded like it wouldn't take much in the way of connections to convince them to let one join the board in any case.

My research suggests joining a Club will also offer a big boost, although the membership fees appear to be a bit out of reach for me at the moment.

There's more out there, but those two alone dropped me from needing 16 MW for my first point to 10, which is a tremendous difference. [The other 4 points come from a tattoo I was fortunate enough to gain while I was new during the recent feast and some rather simple equipment]

Good luck in your efforts to gain Notability.

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