 Chaoseed Posts: 13
3/28/2015
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Sure, the Chapel of Lights has fires and torches and things, but if you visit there enough you realize that's not exactly what they're interested in up there. So is that what "lights" necessarily means? What if it means sense 2, as in "lungs", as in "heart and lights"...As in something that could be eaten. As in, a reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely...
Am I experiencing an apophenic fit, or am I merely cottoning on to something everyone else already knows?
-- @Chaoseed on Twitter and Echo Bazaar
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 phryne Posts: 1347
3/28/2015
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As a non-native speaker I wasn't aware of this meaning of "lights", so thanks for bringing this up... the name doesn't really make any sense otherwise, so you could be on the right path there!
-- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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 Captain Ancalagon Posts: 34
3/28/2015
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Huh - I'm not a native speaker either but I have been speaking English for decades, and I wasn't aware of this...
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 OctaviaCrowe Posts: 137
3/28/2015
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Well, the Drowned God is
[spoiler] MR. Eaten, who was Mr. Candles, so the lights represent him.[/spoiler] edited by babelfishwars on 3/29/2015
-- Ms. Octavia Crowe, the Hellfaring Mystic, former keeper of the Books of Brass. The Seeking... the Name... it has devoured... everything.
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 WireWolf Posts: 29
3/28/2015
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I'm a native English speaker and I wasn't aware of this. O.o
-- When Mortals from the path of Honour stray,and strong passions over reason sway, What are they then but Brutes? ‘Tis vice alone that constitutes. Th’enchanting wand and magic bowl, The exterior form of Man they wear,But are in fact both Wolf and Bear,The transformation’s in the Soul.
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 zwol Posts: 40
3/29/2015
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Students of the lore will also note that there is a large well on the Chapel's island.
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 Clovermite Posts: 16
3/29/2015
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OctaviaCrowe wrote:
Well, the Drowned God is
MR. Eaten, who was Mr. Candles, so the lights represent him.
Fyi - you can put 'spoiler' in square brackets to hide the text. It looks something like this: [replace with spoiler]Text to hide[/replace with spoiler]
And when done correctly:
[spoiler]Is Mr Eaten the monk that greets you at the chapel then? I keep seeing people refer to him on the forums, but I'm not sure who we are talking about. And Mr. Candles - does that mean he is a Master of the Bazaar? I've been playing Fallen London for about a year now, and there is still so much I don't know. I haven't yet made "Person of some importance"[/spoiler]
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
3/29/2015
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[spoiler]Mr Eaten is Mr Candles. He was a Master who was stabbed, drowned in a well, and consumed. Mr Veils arranged it in order to obtain the Third City as well as eliminate a perceived threat. Whether Mr Eaten was actually involved in what happened in the Second City isn't known, as far as I'm aware. I haven't played Sunless Sea yet, so I'm not sure if there are any clues about what actually happened back then.[/spoiler]
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 Clovermite Posts: 16
3/29/2015
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Thanks Sara!
If you don't mind me asking - did you find all that out as part of normal play in Fallen London, or is it hidden behind fate locked stories? If part of normal play, do I need to raise my "Connected to Masters" trait to get to them?
That's the kind of background information I'd really like to get to, but I feel like most of all I encounter is silly errands. I'm hoping this is mainly just because I haven't reached "person of some importance" status yet. In many ways, I feel like I've almost learned more about the Fallen London universe from a few weeks playing Sunless Sea than I have in a year playing Fallen London. edited by Clovermite on 3/29/2015
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 OctaviaCrowe Posts: 137
3/29/2015
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Its mostly in the Seeking Mr. Eatens Name storylets, which have been shut down due to being both unofficial amd ruinously damaging. They may come back some day.
-- Ms. Octavia Crowe, the Hellfaring Mystic, former keeper of the Books of Brass. The Seeking... the Name... it has devoured... everything.
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 Captain Ancalagon Posts: 34
3/29/2015
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WireWolf wrote:
I'm a native English speaker and I wasn't aware of this. O.o
That's somewhat reassuring
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 OctaviaCrowe Posts: 137
3/29/2015
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I was, but only due to a lifetime of reading fantasy books filled with archaic English, and history books filled with even more.
I song Old English songs in the shower, even.
-- Ms. Octavia Crowe, the Hellfaring Mystic, former keeper of the Books of Brass. The Seeking... the Name... it has devoured... everything.
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 Marianne Anders Posts: 127
3/30/2015
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[spoiler] actually, Mr. Eaten gets a storylet at Sacksmas where he asks you to accept his heart and lights. so probably a good connection there. [/spoiler]
i also was unaware of this meaning until FL. and then it turned up in my early and middle english literature class. :P
-- Not all who wander are lost. Sometimes, they are very lost. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Marianne~Anders
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 Lashkar Posts: 109
4/5/2015
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There's also a story in Shepherd Isles, one of the Thornwell Croft-related ones that references "The Ship of Lights" but Light in that one is referred to as "that old devil". If Light is literally a devil that's kind of inconsistent. If the crofters just meant devil metaphorically it would make more sense.
A ship captained by [spoiler]Mr Eaten[/spoiler]....eeeeeeeee.
-- Wriothesley: Call me "Risley". My first character, around midgame Asesina Ballenas: whale killer. Alt, recently PoSI Happy to accept most social actions; will help with menace reduction if it's reciprocated.
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