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Owen Wulf
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4/20/2013
As the title suggests, I am of the mind that the Bazaar is in need of new merchandise. There hasn't been an introduction of new items in close to a year and what with all the new icons and artwork floating around I am puzzled as to why the current stocks seem incomplete and haphazard. For instance I would love to buy a clothing item to increase my Dangerous but the highest tier for such is a +2 while Persuasive clothing can go as high as +10. The higher tier purchases are simply bereft of certain skill categories, and to date there is no shoe on the Bazaar that increases Watchful - which makes it all the more frustrating that I had picked the Brass Knuckles in the beginning of the game and not the Mirror Polished Shoes. I mean heck, why not just reuse the old icons from the aforementioned items, or is there a person around who would not buy a sturdy Bowlerhat? Also, there is the Corseted Red Dress that has a +2 to Dangerous and Persuasive but no opposing manly attire with similar stats - which would no doubt look dapper.

There may be a symmetry to the inclusion of items and their bonuses, but with the max skill range being 150 I do not see the harm in adding new apparels. It may be transitory but having items that we can save up and buy (save for those ridiculously overpriced like the Overgoat) would surely tide the community over until the arrival of new content. What do you guys think, are the current Bazaar stocks threadbare or sufficient for your appetites?

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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4/21/2013
I think Watchful footwear should be cardboard boots in tribute to Sam Vimes.

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amaresu
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4/22/2013
I had a dream once, before PoSI was even a thing, while grinding silk from the seamstress in the Veilgarden. Every thousand or so scraps I got I would be able to trade in for a piece of clothing until I had a really nice set of Persuasive clothing. I remember this dream because ever since I've wanted an option to trade in a stockpile of stuff to get equipment we'd normally buy at the Bazaar.

What might be nice is something in the Sidestreets. A specialist shop where you can go and trade in certain materials and get a fresh set of clothing made out of them. Something that requires more than just grinding echoes to get new stuff. Maybe I could trade in some Parabola Linen and a few Correspondence Plaques to receive a very dangerous vest. Or a Night Whisper and some Surface Silk for a new hat that tells me the most interesting things.

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Diptych
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4/29/2013
Oh Lor', imagine boots with teeth for treads. Also, some sort of joke about tongues and/or soles.

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Finvara
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4/29/2013
Not to mention the Eyelets

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Aximillio
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4/27/2013
While speaking of clothing, do you know when weapons/pets/PoSI stuff will have their stats updated? I long for more clothing options!
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Rowan Dusang
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4/29/2013
Watchful shoes are a stretch, so I don't mind the lack of those options, but I think the lack of better Dangerous clothing feels like a logical oversight. in terms of role playing. If armored hats and gloves make you more dangerous, shouldn't armored clothing as well? In the real world, I imagine chain mail would make you much more dangerous than spidersilk slippers makes you shadowy. How about some nice leather under-armor? Or to go to the extreme, some nevercold brass armor? The idea of armor increasing your dangerousness makes much more sense than dancing shoes making you more persuasive.




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Flidget
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4/29/2013
I would love more low-level clothing Persuasive Clothing of a less frilly sort - it's a bit out-of-character for my knavish, ne'er-do-well bloke to be gallivanting around in a modish bonnet and a saucy dress. Can't he have a raffish waistcoat and a battered bowler?

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Flidget
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4/29/2013
Yes, something for the aspiring dandy fresh out of his first visit to New Newgate!

Admittedly, past all but the lowest levels these items are mostly useful for the scandal they cause, at which point it seems reasonable that a strapping gentleman in a frivolous bonnet would cause a stir - but then equally so would a delicate young lady in a loud and undeniably masculine waistcoat.
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Finvara
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4/29/2013
I fail to see how watchful shoes are any more of a stretch than watchful gloves or a watchful hat. Give me Boots with eyes and teeth.

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Spacemarine9
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4/21/2013
the world's most prevalent misspelling of overcoat

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Diptych
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4/21/2013
Watchful in an unscientific, instinctive way - an observer of human nature. He's often nominated as a favourite character in the series, and, though he gets a lot of scenes that are clearly referencing Clint Eastwood, he was based (if memory serves) on Pete Postlethwaite.

(Do you know, personally, I don't mind the Mirror-polished Shoes. The lower-level items seem to draw their benefit in no small part from the social as much as if not more so than their practical uses. How would a morning-suit aid in Watchfulness, for instance, except that it's the uniform of the professional class? Likewise, while mirrors are always handy - I'm always losing things under other things (it's as if there's a society dedicated to putting them there!) - a pair of nice shiny shoes are exactly what a promising young clerk should be seen wearing if they want to be entrusted with London's knowledge.)

All that said, I do know of genuine and verifiable cases from history of scholars having outfits commissioned precisely to help in their studies - I'm thinking of Thoreau, for instance, who had his suits cut to fit books and pens and such for naturalistic excursions. The niche I'd expect such an item to fill is fairly well held by the academic gown, but it goes to show that there's always some way to match an item to a requirement.
edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 4/21/2013

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Rupho Schartenhauer
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4/22/2013
I'd prefer new content over new equipment. Or, more precisely: I prefer equipment that was earned while playing a story (like the Anarchist's Sable or the Spiked Rosary). What do I need a +10 Watchful pair of shoes for when there's no actual use for them in-game? The inventory's full enough as it is.
edited by Rupho Schartenhauer on 3/24/2015

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Erik Vimes
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4/22/2013
Wieland Burandt wrote:
I'd prefer new content over new equipment. Or, more precisely: I prefer equipment that was earned while playing a story (like the Anarchist's Sable or the Spiked Rosary). What do I need a +10 Watchful pair of shoes for when there's no actual use for them in-game? The inventory's full enough as it is.
edited by Wieland Burandt on 4/22/2013



Agree wholeheartedly. I'd like to see more of the ambition stories and continuations of the on-hold gold card stories (lock-maker and Dilmun Club)

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