IHNIWTR
Posts: 346
2/21/2015
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so, obviously there will be some spoilers here
one of the ways that are available to the player to defend their potential kingdom from the sun is to get a Parabox from Irem. The requirements for that are, among other things, the halving of all stats. Which would be costly, but reasonable. it also demands that each of their values will equal or exceed 100. Again, a hefty but understandbale price - except when it comes to Pages, a stat that only one background dependent officer rises, and even that only up to 50. Beyond that, 100 in this stat is nigh unobtainable. And so, I wonder if this will be addressed, either by giving the players access to a way to reliably raise Pages or by decreasing the requirements of the Parabox.
edited by IHNIWTR on 2/21/2015
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Mica
Posts: 30
2/22/2015
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They will be able to change this if they ever add another option for getting pages besides having your past as a poet and grinding specific SAY bordering on abusing it.
Right now, they might as well put the requirements as "your past, a poet" instead of 100 pages since it's basically the same thing, besides the SAY grind required.
Reminds of the Page requirement for a certain Doctor's story... 175 Pages.
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SouthSea Rutherby
Posts: 224
2/23/2015
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As I may have mentioned in previous threads -- this has been an issue since the early days and while I'm still not sure they've got it quite right, the ability to grind fragments and buy secrets has significantly reduced the negative aspects of the pages legacy. If you've got a really good setup -- certain trade routes that are close together, conveniently located islands, or just a map you've gotten used to -- you may decide the convenience of keeping your chart outweighs the fragments you'll have to gain from sources other than exploration. Just think: instead of rediscovering the whole map for a handful of secrets, you could just save the map, continue with the storyline, and buy a few extra secrets from Irem -- what's a few thousand echoes if you're already rich from those routes? Also, the pages stat reduces how many fragments you need to obtain in order to gain new secrets, so it can be even further worthwhile.
Even so, I don't think the pages stat is treated fairly yet. There was a time when having too many secrets could have been game-breaking and a stat that raised experience may have seemed unbalanced -- as a result, there was only one officer who raised pages and the stat was by far the hardest to raise, hands down. Now that secrets can be infinitely acquired regardless of the pages stat, thanks to Irem and quests that can grind out fragments, this should no longer be a concern.
I'd like to see easier ways to raise the pages stat in future updates because it is a useful stat that is no longer overpowered and should be more easy to raise than it currently is.
edited by SouthSea Rutherby on 2/23/2015
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SporksAreGoodForYou
Posts: 291
2/24/2015
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SouthSea Rutherby wrote:
Just my one silly question: did you submit a bug report for this? I can't attempt to duplicate this error or try to replicate it until I figure out how to back up save files and switch between my newest "Unforgiving Mode" character and my older, more capable captains.
[spoiler]C:\Users\<you>\AppData\LocalLow\Failbetter Games\Sunless Sea\saves
ctrl-c ctrl-v on Autosave.json
rename it to "Unforgiving.json" or whatever.
Be warned, when you play the game, it always overwrites the Autosave.json.
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ThePolishSausage
Posts: 12
2/24/2015
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One quick fix for this, though I wonder if it screws with the game balancing, would be to replace the "improve hearts" option with doctors to "improve pages." It seems like the Plausible Doctor's ability to improve pages is a remnant of early game balancing so new players don't improve their Pages stat too much early in the game and become awash in secrets.
While I understand if that's the case, I'm currently two years into a captaincy with every skill reaching 70+ aside from Pages, which is around 35 or so, unamplified by officers or items. There simply is no reliable way to increase the stat which is really annoying once you've explored the entire map and become starved for secrets and fragments. Yes, I know you can purchase them at Irem. No, I don't want to blow my echoes on their outlandish prices.
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MisterGone
Posts: 139
2/25/2015
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Soooo is the ability to make the Monstrous Almanac not showing up for anyone else, or is that just me?
I have everything else appearing as an option, just not the almanac.
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