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Diptych
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3/3/2013
Well, the Feast of the Exceptional Rose is more or less at an end, and - after 58 pages of trading gifts, dancing madly, and wigging out about the big finale (which I feel really silly about and heartily apologise for!), it's been suggested we could use a dedicated space to discuss the lore. Anyone who's already shared their ideas in the existing threads - I'd be delighted if you could copy them here!

First up, am I mistaken, or can we take this to be an unconventional family portrait of a very unconventional family?



Does this offer any insight into the nature of an Illumination? (That said, Ms Lilac appears to have, well, lilac-coloured eyes, not the blue suggested to be necessary for a tattooist... but, the previous icon used for Mrs Clathermont had green eyes, so, who can say?)

How about the Feast flings? Lettice, the Deviless and the Costermonger are all established characters, and it's strongly hinted that the Educated Gentleman and the Irresistible Lady are as well... how about the others? Is the Tragedian a known Surface writer? (Given we've recently had hints to the fates of Dickens and Wilde...) Does the Presbyterate Diplomat offer any hints to the location of the Elder Continent?

As for the revelations of the sunlight, and the Fallen Cities... hunger? Remaking? The heart of the sun? Sounds like the consequence of a ill-thought-out Correspondence experiment...

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Zeedee
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3/3/2013
Reference Key:
Option Title
I've often put Descriptions directly under their Options.
(Plain words in these parentheses are simply my personal notes.)
(Italicized words in these parentheses are item descriptions.)


Text for a Masquing option on the "An Encounter at the Feast" opportunity card:

The briefest of encounters
Candle-light in Hollow Street. Breathy laughter. Sudden silence.

Result -
Silence at the Feast

And just like that, you're alone again. A mask lies crumpled on the ground. A street or more away, you hear a Master's fluting voice. "All shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well! The Bazaar has promised us, my dears. The Bazaar has made so very many promises."


Text for the end of the Feast of the Exceptional Rose 2013:

Gold Storylet name -
...sunlight?
(name changes as time passes to the one below)
...a wash of sunlight?
(and once more)
...a fading wash of sunlight?

Description(s) -
What is that light at the Bazaar's summit? A summery, buttery golden glow! The air of the Neath is warm, suddenly. Forgotten scents touch the air. New-cut grass; mountain-winds; warm stone.
(as time passes, it changes to include the following words)
[Already the light is fading. In a few minutes it will end, and so too will the Feast.]
(and once more)
[The clock is striking half-past nine. The light is very nearly gone. A few glints remain.]

Bask in the light
(a 10-action option that disappears towards the end)

Description -
A crowd of Londoners faces the Bazaar, exulting, weeping at the miracle of it. Some sing hymns. One is selling hastily assembled golden ribbons. A Yelping Patriot claims it's a French trick.
(as time passes, it changes to include the following words)
As the light begins to dim, a priest falls to his knees, imploring it to return.

Result 1 -
A voice?

"These are my children and this is my light. These are my words in the merciful night. This is the Sun whose commands run below, and the Feast of it all is the way we must go. The One who denied is love's enemy but the enemy, love, is the last we shall see."

* Your Wounds are gone!
* Your Nightmares are gone!
* Your Scandal is gone!
* Your Suspicion is gone!
(These menaces are fully removed by each basking result every time and noting them once here should suffice.)

* You've gained 1 x Primaeval Hint
(A distant echo: an apprehension of something impossibly ancient. What will the Masters pay for this?)


Result 2 -
Whose memories are these?

The first descent, the unnaming of flight, that was forgiven and all shall be well. So It said. The second, a shrug and a time. It was fair, It was fair. The third, oh the rage at the deceptions of sand. All of us were, all of us, and now all of us will.

* You've gained 1 x Searing Enigma
(Mysteries are fire. Truth burns.)


Result 3 -
A voice?

"The first taught restraint and the second betrayed. The third taught us hunger: the fourth we remade. The fifth will live on in the heart of the Sun, and the sixth..."

* You now have 1 x Elemental Secret
(The Neath is the place where Earth places the memories that shame her. This is such a memory.)


Result 4 -
A voice?

"All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well. I will not fail. I have not failed. He will not regret. All these words. All these words. Mark me..."

(Rewards were randomized Primaeval Hints or Searing Enigmas at first. They became Elemental Secrets towards the end.)


Result 5 -
A voice?

"All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well. The marks are a legion: their stories are swords. Be forgiven, O please, O please, let us be forgiven."

(I'm unsure of the order in which the basking results occurred. They seemed to be completely random; if there was a definite first or last result text, I don't know.)


Bask in the last remnants of the light
(a 3-action option that appears near the end)

Description -
Londoners weep and shriek, imploring the light to return.

Result 1 -
A voice?

"This is my promise: all shall be well and all shall be well. Crown me with a knot of flames, my love, my love. Forgive me my trespasses. The fire and the rose are one, are one, are one - "

At the corner of your vision, a Radical Factotum hisses, whips out a notebook, and desperately scribbles notes. He catches your eye. "For the Wicked Book," he offers. "Where we share knowledge."


Result 2 -
A voice?

"Please," the voice begs, "let him understand. Let this all not be in vain. Give me your tales, your tales, delicious ones. You are all I ever hungered for."

At the corner of your vision, a Radical Factotum hisses, whips out a notebook, and desperately scribbles notes. He catches your eye. "For the Wicked Book," he offers. "Where we share knowledge."


Take advantage of the distraction
Yes, very pretty. Let's see what's in the pockets of all these gawping fools.

Result -
Heaped treasures!

Excuse me - excuse me - thank you - excuse me - do excuse me! You go through the crowd like a weasel through a wheat-field. And what a shiny little haul this is - wait, what's this blue stuff?

* You've gained 1 x Trembling Amber
(It thrills with electric life. Something in it glows like the very most distant of suns.)


A Weeping Tatooist
(Unlocked with Entwined in the Intrigues of the Clathermont Family 1)

Description -
"Millicent! Millicent!" A beefy man barrels through the crowd. Where is he going?

Result -
There he goes -

He's pushing through the crowd after a slender woman - you catch a flash of lilac as she turns. "No!" he shouts. "Don't go near it! They're not tattoos! They're something else!" Then the crowd closes in.


Trap a little sunlight in a Mirrorcatch Box!
(Unlocked with 1 x Mirrorcatch Box)

Description -
If indeed it is sunlight. Perhaps the Calendar Council can tell you, or the Cheery Man.


Your Dark-Carapaced Crustacean is wriggling free!
(Unlocked with 1 x Dark-Carapaced Crustacean)

Description -
It's trying to reach the light! Hold it up! Or will it escape?

Result -
A sizzle and a crack!

Your Crustacean breaks open like an egg. Something smaller wriggles free from within. Something that giggles.

* You've lost 1 x Dark-Carapaced Crustacean
(A lumpen, vicious, scuttling thing, patched with fur and fronded with light-tipped tendrils. It moves as if in pain. It's savage, and oddly loyal. It smells faintly of fish.)

* You've gained 1 x Gilded Crustacean
(This was a lumpen, vicious, scuttling thing, patched with fur and fronded with light-tipped tendrils. Now it's still all those things, and it still smells of fish, but it's also blazing yellow, the colour of a daffodil under an arc-lamp. And it giggles like a school-girl.)


A memory...
The ground beneath your feet is trembling, very slightly. [This will use up your Putting the Pieces Together: the Taste of Lacre.]
(Unlocked with Putting the Pieces Together: the Taste of Lacre 7)

Result -
If lacre is the Bazaar's tears...

...what is this light? A laughter? A memory? A blaze of photochemical reaction? Is the Bazaar signalling? To whom, and what? It seems...involuntary.


(There may be one more or a hundred more basking results which haven't been recorded. Please share them if you know them!)
edited by Zeedee on 3/4/2013

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Twoflower
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3/9/2013
Spacemarine9 wrote:
"Echoes. Echoes, echoes, echoes, echoes, echoes..."

well ok then


I'm starting to think these tweets are just the Bazaar going insane instead of any actual clues.
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Sara Hysaro
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3/8/2013
Mr Eaten's got 99 problems, but a ******* ain't one.

(couldn't resist)
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Alexander Feld
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3/11/2013
You now have x1 Ragnarok Panther! You must feed it on a diet of imported sunlight and Coruscating Souls. And everything else, really.

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Twoflower
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3/8/2013
...She has Hesperidean Cider! GET HER!
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Tesuji
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3/9/2013
Spacemarine9 wrote:
basically when we figure it out there will be a collective round of faceslapping as it turns out the answer was RIGHT THERE all along

I'd like to believe that this is something we could figure out based on what we know of the Cheery Man and his smuggling operation, as opposed to something we're just going to stumble over.

So, with that in mind, what do we know about the Cheery Man?

Background:
  • He's the landlord of the Medusa Head, in Watchmaker's Hill
  • His daughter is the Last Constable, who works above Caligula's Coffee House, in Ladybones Road
  • He was the guv'nor of Spite years ago
  • He was present at the Fall
  • He was poisoned by devils (half a drop of Cantigaster venom) and can barely move
  • He'd like to join the House of Chimes
Connections:
  • He has a pet conjurer (probably Jonesian) who he uses to attack his enemies through mirrors
  • Some steamer-captains help him smuggle (unwilling) people to the tomb-colonies
  • His partners/rivals include the Gracious Widow, the Topsy King, Feducci and December
  • His enemies include the Knuckle-Scarred Inspector, the Implacable Detective and the Last Constable
  • He's acquainted with the Regretful Soldier and the Secular Missionary
Sunlight smuggling:
  • He paid off Mr Fires to bring in sunlight in mirrored boxes through Wolfstack Docks
  • He cuts the sunlight with moonlight, which causes customers to run lunatic
Any other details anyone can think of, that could potentially lead anywhere interesting?

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Spacemarine9
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3/9/2013
i'd swap alexis 50k rats for a box

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Richard
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3/9/2013
Twoflower wrote:
Or maybe the choice to get the box can only be reached by following a period with a link hidden inside?

Hiding a link in the period at the end of a sentence? I can't imagine anyone would ever do that.
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Diptych
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3/9/2013
I'm so confused at this point, I'm weaving fantastical narratives out of the clues. Perhaps, when the Watchmaker's Daughter drowned herself in the River, she took with her a mirror'd box, through which have fallen many of Mahogany Hall's missing hats, but the key is no longer in the river because the Clay Men who walk on on the Benthic beds have something something Jade Tomb-Colonists Fungal Pony.

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Zeedee
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3/6/2013
Richard wrote:
One observation I don't think anyone's made yet: the Fallen Londoners who already have a box were described as "very cunning", not "very lucky".

Ohhh, when you say it like that...! *forehead slap* It seems kinda obvious when you think about it... Shadowy is the "cunning" attribute. So what's "very cunning"? Shadowy at 70+? 90+? 110+? Do we really have to set up tents at Wilmot's End?

Alexis' wording was a bit offbeat; I should have taken more notice:
"11 very cunning Fallen Londoners have one, but they're wisely not publicising the fact.

Happy March, everyone."

March is part of the Calendar Council. He can be made happy when you help the Affluent Photographer! If I'm gonna over-analyze everything he's posted, then I might as well suggest that we hunt down the Affluent Photographer, side with her, and don Anarchist Sable while whispering "Happy March?!" to every passing spy in Wilmot's End. Maybe we need some Patent Scrutinizers and to draw the right opportunity card, too.

Meh, maybe I'm just reading into it too much. I relish none of these thoughts.

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Spacemarine9
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3/6/2013
honestly that'd probably just result in scores of readers maiming themselves to get a hint at a clue at a guess at seven down

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3/7/2013
Thousands of rats, scantily clad in lingerie woven from cash perhaps?

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Spacemarine9
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3/9/2013
It's gotten to the point where upon going to the first coil of the labyrinth, i think "oh its Alexis" rather than "oh it's the Tiger Keeper" at first glance.

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3/9/2013
Quick! Find your ex and throw mirrors at her!
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3/10/2013
Every single fake solution is true for the third SMEN candle.

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3/10/2013
I do get the feeling that some people may have had the box at the time, but that storylet was mostly just to let us know that mirrorcatch boxes existed in the first place.

I would _really_ like to know the text and rewards for that, but god knows where i'd get enough rats to bribe alexis with. Even if they were wearing lingerie made of money.

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Alexander Feld
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3/10/2013
I look forward to watching everyone dogpile Alexis for his box, knives at the ready.

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Alexis Kennedy
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3/11/2013
>Alexis cackling with glee


Actually, there's been very little cackling. My emotional state was mostly oscillation between concern that I'd tipped my hand early, and concern that I'd built a too-obscure puzzle. Every time I saw another player had solved it, I was pleased and relieved.


>I'm more curious about how the hat became the Masters' symbol.


because the first icon I asked Paul to draw me was 'a menacing hat' (that was the whole brief).


And, in fact, the hat being the symbol of the Bazaar and the Masters is extradiegetic. It's the game's informal logo, it's the waiting animation, it turns up on several icons (someone already mentioned the envelope)... but though we reference the Masters' sigil in-game, and some people have made the leap, we never actually describe it.


So is the Masters' sigil in fact a hat? Well, in Twin Peaks, Audrey Horne puts a tune on the jukebox in the Double-R Diner. "I love this tune", she says. "It's so dreamy." It's her leitmotif, actually, and if you look at the Twin Peaks soundtrack, it's just called 'Audrey's Theme'. So if you'd been able to look at the jukebox track listing, what would it have said? That always fucked with my head.
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Alexander Feld
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3/11/2013
Sara Hysaro wrote:
Maybe it changes with every city?
Well, yes, that would be the sensible solution, but I much prefer to imagine Egyptians wearing top-hats made of cats. It would explain the teeth and eyes, at any rate.
edited by Alexander Feld on 3/11/2013

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Theus
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3/10/2013
For me, I started to think meta when it was revealed that it was not a matter of luck. I had to think of something that was truly unable to be stumbled across. Once Alexis shared his mantle with the thing showing, I began to dig into the code. That's when I found out the box had a low ID number which (perhaps unwisely assuming identity column) meant it had existed for a while, making the likelihood of it being a new option tacked onto an existing storylet even more suspect.

At this point, I began to send all sorts of malformed code through Alexis's mantle in an attempt to copy the box, steal it, grant myself one. (Alexis did say "very cunning.") I stopped short of SQL injection which I felt to be over the line. I apologize for the bevy of strange errors I must have logged for you guys, and I hope you understand I thought it was part of the game. (I was told it could be stolen!)

I arrived at the access code idea fairly early on, but expected the passcode to come from some lore in game that I didn't have access to since I had burnt my Connected:Masters for Seeking. Once the hint about "beneath the box" came through, it was sufficiently blunt to cause me to revisit the river in a box. On the bottom was the sigil of the masters (the hat beneath the river!) along with a single word - ..." It was like building a Tetris wall and finally having the |-|-|-|-| appear and fall beatifully into place.
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3/11/2013
I'm still slightly baffled every time I log in now and don't have to search for clues! That was a frustrating but jolly fun event, capped nicely by Alexis' wrap-up post. I am glad the solution didn't involve something like bringing a Starveling Cat to the Mirror-Marches... (god, if regular cats become tigers and leopards... that doesn't bear thinking about!)

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3/10/2013
Oh, I could cry. I could CRY. Not only was I out of the state during the sunlight event, I JUST figured out the riddle only to discover that all the boxes have been handed out. *weep*

And FYI: if you don't already have a box, it's too late. They're all gone.
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3/10/2013
I'll say this much - we came up with a great many interesting solutions for future riddles in this thread!

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3/9/2013
i still have no idea what's going on! hooray!!!?

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3/9/2013
Augh! I will NEVER get this!

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3/9/2013
Now the question is - what is to be done with them?
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3/7/2013
Time for a text wall post. I apologize, but I need to collate the information somewhere people can see it.
streetfelineblue wrote:
OK,correct me if I'm wrong:

TWEETS FROM MARCH 6TH:

@EchoBazaar Who trusts the Clay Men? Would you trust anything so like and so unlike yourself? Trust the Bazaar, dearests. We are nothing at all like you

@EchoBazaar Yes, Clathermont, you will find her. You may regret it. If you keep her from me, you may regret it more.

@EchoBazaar Beneath the Stolen River, hats lie forgotten. Only their eyes betray them.

TWEETS FROM MARCH 7TH:

@EchoBazaar There is a place across the Unterzee where everything is forgiven. Perhaps you will pillage it for us? That would be charming.

@EchoBazaar In this matter as so many others, one must seek outside the box.


One from each group should be a clue. Of course, it is entirely possible that today's clue is actually yet to be revealed, the day having not ended yet. seeing them this way, I'd say my personal bet would be to combine the "Outside of the Box" tweet with the "Beneath the Stolen River" one, pointing to Flute Street of the Beneath the Neath ride, but it's just a wild guess.

[Note: Three additional tweets have been added.
@EchoBazaar Mr Iron growls in his sleep! What dreams have come to him?
@EchoBazaar 15.
@EchoBazaar One of the things we said today was a clue in the matter of finding a Mirrorcatch Box. Another tomorrow.

fareseries wrote:
Possibilities for the place across the Unterzee where everything is forgiven:

- Mutton Island: If anything, Mutton Island is a place where old and terrible grudges are nursed.
- The Iron Republic: I don't think this is a place of anything of constancy, never mind forgiveness.
- Bullbone Island: It's devoid of human life. Probably not here.
- Corpsecage Island: Ditto.
- Grunting Fen: Ditto.
- Grunting Fen: Ditto.
- Hunter's Keep, the Sea of Voices, Polythreme: These are at least within the realm of possibility. I don't think any of them are specifically forgiving, but they're not obviously a bad fit either. Polythreme would fit with the mention of Clay Men yesterday, too.
- The Tomb-Colonies: I think this is the most likely possibility. You don't get to them via your own ship, but one possible way of getting yourself exiled makes reference to you getting on board a ship to go there. A rare opportunity card there, or one with specific requirements to show up, would stay hidden for quite a while (especially with everyone trying to stay away during the Feast to pick up Masquing).


Alexis wrote:
Dawson wrote:

I'm not inclined to ask for hints, however I do feel it fair to pose this one question to Mr Kennedy: is the box in any sense locked off by fate-only content? either directly (paying for it) or indirectly (location, for example flute street)?



No.


So we have this information. The fate-locked tip rules out Flute Street as a viable location, as well as the House of Chimes, Theological Husbandry, parts of the Foreign Office/Velocipede Squad, and the use of necessarily fate-locked items/gifts.
I'm sitting in Tomb-Colonies with the main currently. Tried all the options beside the ones that require candles or Connected:Masters, and I've gotten a good amount of red cards. No dice. I also have an unfinished hat, and an extraordinary hat. upset

Still, this is good. The first thing mentioned about the box was it is found by cunning players. Meaning this isn't a grindage problem, but a treasure hunt. It's unlikely to be a rare card, or even uncommon. We have two clues, one per day. That's two clues, and four misleads. For my money, 15 is the number of Mirrorcatch boxers currently. And I had my alt check "Beneath the Neath!" many times. Both the failure and the success are the same, and unless there's a rare success and the RNG is screwing me, that's a no go. I have the alt sitting in Wolfstack, but it seems like the Stolen River tip is a mislead as well. I had the main pop in there earlier yesterday, with hats in tow, but no luck. I checked Wilmot's End top to bottom, the Foreign Office, Missing Woman, Playing the Game, and nothing seems to have changed. I didn't get any of the cards, either.
Ladybones is unchanged for both my POSI main and my non POSI alt. So I think it's fair to say if Clathermont is involved, he's not in London currently.

Under this line of reasoning, the most viable choice for clue #1 is:
@EchoBazaar Who trusts the Clay Men? Would you trust anything so like and so unlike yourself? Trust the Bazaar, dearests. We are nothing at all like you

Thus, all we need to do is figure which of today's hints gel with #1:
@EchoBazaar There is a place across the Unterzee where everything is forgiven. Perhaps you will pillage it for us? That would be charming.

@EchoBazaar In this matter as so many others, one must seek outside the box.

@EchoBazaar Mr Iron growls in his sleep! What dreams have come to him?

@EchoBazaar 15.

Excluding 15 (too broad, already has a plausible solution), that leaves boxes, the Unterzee, and Mr. Iron.
On the Unterzee tip: Grunting Fen, Corpsecage, and Bullbone still seem implausible given the first hint. Same with Mutton island; it doesn't really fit any of the criteria, and given the amount of shipwrecks, doesn't seem like where Mrs. Clathermont would flee to. Tentatively removing the Tomb-Colonies from the running, that leaves:

The Brass Republic
Polythreme
The Sea of Voices
Hunter's Keep


as our Unterzee options and

Spite
Wolfstack Docks
Watchmaker's Hill

as our London options, given the Clay Man population, and the affair of the box. Ladybones may still be in the running, given there's low-level quests there involving the Clay quarters...no idea if the boxed cat thing is relevant, but I doubt it. Imagine what claws would do to the reflective capacity of the box! Let alone what the light would do to the cat....
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Twoflower
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3/8/2013
There has been no change in the Connected: Masters option in the Tomb-Colonies. Bugger. That's a point of Connected: Masters I won't be seeing again for a while.
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The Incorrigible Raconteur
The Incorrigible Raconteur
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3/4/2013
I, alas, cannot PM from my telephone - but were I you, Ms Navane, I should find myself infinitely intellectually enriched by discovering Charles Dickens' full name on Wikipedia :]

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Richard
Richard
Posts: 304

3/9/2013
Theus wrote:
Wow. Bravo.

Pretty much what I said too. By now, of course, you'll have discovered the awesome exclusive storylet it unlocks, where Mr Eaten discloses his true identity and the two of you split a six-pack of Hesperidean Cider.
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Seberin
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3/9/2013
I wonder if we might be looking at this wrong.

Suppose that it's true that there are only a few of these boxes. If they're obtained via a storylet or opportunity card, then as soon as someone figures out how to acquire one and shares that information, we will be able to "create" an indefinite number of them by repeating the requisite steps. How, then, could Failbetter ensure that there will only be a limited number in circulation?

To me, that suggests that we might actually be looking for a URL code. Something like those occasionally sent via email or tweeted on the social networks. Such codes offer a finite number of claims; so, for example, the first 50 people to click the link would acquire boxes, and none thereafter.

If that were the case (and I realize that this is all highly speculative), then the solution may not be anywhere within the Story tab. Such a link could be placed elsewhere on the Fallen London site, or within the Failbetter Games web site... or possibly even some other StoryNexus world?

That would also explain why so few people have acquired one, despite so many searching and no element of luck being involved. We're simply looking in the wrong place.

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Saharan
Saharan
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3/9/2013
Thirsty Bombazine Scraps absorb light, that could do for storage and transport.

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Tesuji
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3/9/2013
hwango wrote:
Wait...I just had a ridiculous thought...

I just spent my evening in the Mirror-Marches with Nightmares 12, a boxed cat and a bejewelled lens, just in case that led anywhere interesting. (For the record, it did not.)

Go with your ridiculous thoughts; I'm not sure we have anything else left.
edited by Tesuji on 3/9/2013

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Lady Red
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3/8/2013
By the power of alcohol, it works again! But veeeeeeeeeery slooooooooooowly.

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Spacemarine9
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3/9/2013
"is it an analogy or are we over-thinking it??" -- the sum of all efforts so far

cryptic and confusing? not in the slightest
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Alexis Kennedy
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3/9/2013
Spacemarine9 wrote:
What sort of angry-mob-prevention devices do you have in place?



Fire. I'll bring you fire. I'll teach you to burn.
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Spacemarine9
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3/9/2013
Either that or Alexis is actually a dragon. A big, angry, tiger dragon. With a hat.

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Diptych
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3/9/2013
Richard wrote:
I might answer questions about my character though.


Alright, a barrage of probably laughably irrelevant questions.

I see you're Last Constable-aligned. How about the Wars of Illusion - have you picked a side there? Or Photographer vs Contrarian?

You don't have a ship. Have you ever had a ship?

Are you a wizard?

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3/9/2013
Twoflower wrote:
Think about it: What's the only boat that goes nowhere?


My first relation-ship?

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Richard
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3/9/2013
Lady Red wrote:
If I bat my eyelashes at you very nicely, Richard, will you give me a clue? smile

What delightful eyelashes they are.

I will say that, the way I approached it, there were two important things I had to figure out. One has already been suggested somewhere on this thread. The other I deduced for myself, using some of the clues on Twitter.

And I really do mean "deduced", not just that I can see how the clues fit now that I know the answer. In my opinion, the puzzle is completely fair, and can be solved using insight rather than luck.

I'm not going to give any more hints today - it would be so easy to say too much and ruin the "aha" moment. I might answer questions about my character though.
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Fhoenix
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3/4/2013
The Incorrigible Raconteur wrote:
I, alas, cannot PM from my telephone - but were I you, Ms Navane, I should find myself infinitely intellectually enriched by discovering Charles Dickens' full name on Wikipedia :]

Oh! smile

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Jack Vaux-Harrowden
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3/5/2013
According to the sidebars, the Bazaar is traditionally styled as 'she' by men and 'he' by women; the Voice very definitely refers to a 'he'. Whether that changes anything, I doubt, but it is possibly-relevant established lore.
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Jack Vaux-Harrowden
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3/5/2013
I always had the impression that there was a critical mass of love stories that needed to accumulate to make...something...happen, and that the tariff on exporting love stories was to help keep them in the Neath where they can contribute to that accumulation.
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Alexis Kennedy
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3/5/2013
Fourteen people now have a Mirrorcatch Box.


One of the things the Bazaar will say tomorrow at http://www.twitter.com/echobazaar is a clue.
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Twoflower
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3/6/2013
Lady Red wrote:
But the clay man tweet was tweeted yesterday... It's today that Alexis is going to drop the clue! Unless he's messing with us. He wouldn't mess with us.... would he?



I take it you don't know much about Alex. smile
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Flipz
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3/3/2013
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
No, she was just (unless I'm mistaken) a young lady who occasionally appears on the Pickpocket's Promenade.


Has anyone tried the Pickpocket's Promenade with her equipped, to see if there's any change to her appearance on the Promenade? Even just a cosmetic change to the description text would be interesting to see. (Well, that or the universe would break as you robbed the Costermonger with the help of the Costermonger. :P )

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Zeedee
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3/3/2013
I wish we had spoiler boxes on this forum. I'm annoyed by that high wall of text above me. *shakes fist* ...Yes, I set it up, but I'm still annoyed!

Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
First up, am I mistaken, or can we take this to be an unconventional family portrait of a very unconventional family?



Does this offer any insight into the nature of an Illumination? (That said, Ms Lilac appears to have, well, lilac-coloured eyes, not the blue suggested to be necessary for a tattooist... but, the previous icon used for Mrs Clathermont had green eyes, so, who can say?)

I don't think any of 'em are related by blood except for the technicality of sharing human blood...and I'm not fully convinced they're all human, ha. To be fair, I'm not fully convinced on the humanity of my character, either. Anyway, I figured what with being experts at inking, the skilled dying of organic substances, Millicent Clathermont and the Clathermont Triplets must have tattooed their own eyes and permanently dyed their hair. It's been mentioned that the Triplets' brown eyes are not their original colors (at least for one of them). Besides, I think you only need blue eyes for the Singer of Roses tattoo. The Broken Sun tattoo represents the Neath, right? I'm not sure about the Singer of Roses, but maybe it's related to the Feast of the Exceptional Rose. As for the Illumination, perhaps it's a literal and metaphorical enlightenment of the body and mind that can occur. Maybe that's what Lilac/Mrs Clathermont was hoping to attain this Feast.

Let's look to love. It's always the heart of things when it comes to the Bazaar, right? In the language of flowers, the purple lilac is defined as the "first emotions of love". Lilac was diligently researching love. Her lilac garb was probably an uniform for her like a white coat is for a doctor. If she was hoping to obtain the Bazaar's Illumination, to bask in its light, to uncover its love story, then the Feast would be the best time for it. Knowledge is wealth and power down in the Neath -- as on the Surface. If she discovered the Bazaar's greatest personal secrets and desires, she might be able to call checkmate on the Great Game and retire as an empress on the Surface.

Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Lettice, the Deviless and the Costermonger are all established characters, and it's strongly hinted that the Educated Gentleman and the Irresistible Lady are as well... how about the others? Is the Tragedian a known Surface writer? (Given we've recently had hints to the fates of Dickens and Wilde...) Does the Presbyterate Diplomat offer any hints to the location of the Elder Continent?

I've been puzzling over the identities of the Educated Gentleman and Irresistible Lady, too. Perhaps they're simply new characters. If not, I think the Irresistible Lady might be Mrs Plenty. As for the Educated Gentleman, he might be a Snuffer. A charming and intelligent one with an incredibly unhealthy interest in devils... He must be the Bishop of Southwark! ...Oh, I crack myself up. I have no idea.

Excuse me, wait, we've met Wilde? I'm aware of Dickens but Wilde?! Do share, sir! I'm also quite eager to meet William Thomas Stead and Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 7th Earl of Shaftesbury. A few quick quotes from wikipedia on why:
W. T. Stead
"According to his biographer W Sydney Robinson, 'He twisted facts, invented stories, lied, betrayed confidences, but always with a genuine desire to reform the world - and himself.'
According to Dominic Sandbrook, 'Stead's papers forced his readers to confront the seedy underbelly of their own civilisation, but the editor probably knew more about that dark world than he ever let on. He held up a mirror to Victorian society, yet deep down, like so many tabloid crusaders, he was raging at his own reflection.'"
He also thought he heard messages from spirits.

Earl of Shaftesbury
"Although he was offered a burial at Westminster Abbey, Shaftesbury wished to be buried at St. Giles. A funeral service was held in Westminster Abbey during early morning of 8 October and the streets along the route from Grosvenor Square and Westminster Abbey were thronged with poor people, costermongers, flower-girls, boot-blacks, crossing-sweepers, factory-hands and similar workers who waited for hours to see Shaftesbury's coffin as it passed by. Due to his constant advocacy for the better treatment of the working classes, Shaftesbury became known as the 'Poor Man's Earl'."
He championed human rights for the mentally ill and free education for impoverished children. He also has a nude angel statue dedicated to him in Piccadilly Circus.

A storyline dealing with Charles Dickens, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and their Ghost Club would be splendid, too. I digress, I digress; back to the Feast!

Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
As for the revelations of the sunlight, and the Fallen Cities... hunger? Remaking? The heart of the sun? Sounds like the consequence of a ill-thought-out Correspondence experiment...

I'm fine with exploring outer space. I'm not keen on the idea of London being flung into the sun, especially when I'm still inside the city. Then again, maybe the sun's innards are awesome places to inhabit just like the areas of the Neath. This plan to catapult London into the sun makes so much sense now that I think of the time in the early game when I had this dream and awoke to realize that in it, the Sun was waiting for us. Come on, you all had the same dream, right? You unlocked it when you attained the "Recalling a dream of other places" quality from studying graffiti and listening to gossipmongers in Ladybones Road.

I've been trying to unravel the Bazaar's love story for months and I feel like it spewed information all over my character via 10 minutes of sunlight the other day! Actually, I'm not sure who or what the Bazaar is or if the love story personally involved it. For several months, I've just suspected there was an important tale with the Sun as a sentient being. Its partner seems to be the Earth. Where does the Bazaar come into this? Is the Bazaar the Earth itself? Its child? The one who bought the Earth's story? This could have been the Bazaar's first love story. When I think of the Correspondence sigils that mean "forever hurtling toward the earth", "love that immolates the lover" and "the mounting excitement when one's beloved reaches the closest point of his orbit", I think of the Sun and the Earth's romantic relationship. I wonder how the moon plays into it. Maybe it's an "egg" which will produce a baby Bazaar in the future! As a side note, I'm not entirely comfortable with living inside a sentient being that I've been treating as mostly unconscious, non-sentient and generally unalive for dozens of years. Okay, I have to stop here. Now I understand why Correspondence scholars are driven to obsessive madness. :-[

Oh, and Mirrorcatch Box owners, if you reveal your seekret ways to obtaining such a marvelous contraption, there will be kitten pictures in it for ya. Puppies are possible, too.

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Little The
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3/3/2013
the Costermonger [is an] established character

Wait, she is? Since when? Is this related to some Fate-locked content?

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Diptych
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3/3/2013
No, she was just (unless I'm mistaken) a young lady who occasionally appears on the Pickpocket's Promenade.

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friendshipranger
friendshipranger
Posts: 274

3/8/2013
Theus wrote:
Saharan wrote:
The Echo Bazaar Twitter wrote:
One who possesses the river may find the key more readily, but the key is not in the river.


Interesting... so the RiaB can be used somewhere to do something, but is not at all a necessity. What a tangled web they've woven...


Or, one who possesses the river is Connected with the Masters, which may be the real requirement, and the river is still a red herring (or coincidence).


My thoughts precisely. This may be confirmation bias on my part, but my first thought was: "So the River clue was a mislead!" That might be reading too deep, but still.


Twoflower wrote:
There has been no change in the Connected: Masters option in the Tomb-Colonies. Bugger. That's a point of Connected: Masters I won't be seeing again for a while.

Thanks. I was hesitant to take the risk, and I'm glad someone took one for the team. Despite still not yet having tested the candles option (I'll give it another go if I'm desperate), I'm going to definitively say that's not our mark.

Harcourt wrote:
Hmmm, I seem to recall quite a bit of talk about mirrors in Mahogany Hall. Also something there about great quantities of hats getting lost


I like this theory, personally. Why?
*Lyme, Jasper, and Frank, the Masters' Clay associates can be found there, satisfying our Clay connection and our Masters connection.
*Mirrors are plentiful here, given the Glass'...activities. It makes sense they would have developed the technology, and explains this why they are relevant to the larger story.
*A hat appears in the image icon for the area!
*The Affair of the Box has a segment here.
*The Hall branches a lot. If a even if a player has reached the end of the Glass/Shroud storyline, they are likely not to be checking each Day of the Week religiously.
* This last one is a stretch, but here goes: Touched by Fingerwork can increase as a result of Recurring Dreams: Is Someone There?. Given Mahogany Hall is an apparent ally of the Fingerkings, it follows that this would be a likely area associated with the dreams Mr. Iron might be having. Particularly given their fondness for Mirrors, and their connections to Parabola.

I'm going to check now. My list of actions to try here:
*Unbox a Cat
*All non-fate Branches
*Go Insane Here, use the Box/River? to find the Fingerwork connection?
*Run around the garden like a teddy bear

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Zeedee
Zeedee
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3/7/2013
Echo Bazaar wrote:
Mr Iron growls in his sleep! What dreams have come to him?

It must be the one that involves him and Mr Hearts seated together for a game of Knife and Candle-Lit Dinner. <3

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Richard
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3/6/2013
Spacemarine9 wrote:
Hats have eyes, eyes see things, mirrors are things, hats see mirrors.

Those who are British, and moreover of a certain age, might remember a TV show called 3-2-1. That's what this thread suddenly reminds me of.

But I'll abandon that thought there, because I have cast Alexis as Ted Rogers, which is rude.

The Incorrigible Raconteur wrote:
Unless it's a reference to a rare card on the slow boat!

On a point of order, the slow boat floats down the Silent River. The Stolen River is the one they used to call the Thames.

I really, really shouldn't be spending time on this.
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streetfelineblue
streetfelineblue
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3/6/2013
Lady Red wrote:
Spacemarine9 wrote:
honestly that'd probably just result in scores of readers maiming themselves to get a hint at a clue at a guess at seven down


smile Mind you, I am learning how to do cryptic crosswords and sometimes trying to finish one is about as much fun as stabbing myself in the eye with a rusty fork, so I don't know what that says about me.


...I think the most revealing part of the sentence is the implication that you know how it feels to have an eye stabbed with a rusty fork XDDD

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Spacemarine9
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3/6/2013
sometimes it is hard to tell, admittedly
edited by Spacemarine9 on 3/6/2013

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Twoflower
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3/6/2013
The Incorrigible Raconteur wrote:
streetfelineblue wrote:
@EchoBazaar:One of the things we said today was a clue: assistance in the matter of finding Mirrorcatch Boxes. So will another tomorrow.

Well, considering there won't be any more relevant Tweets for tonight, I'm still quite convinced that the tweet mentioning Clathermont was the right one. Either that or the one mentioning the Clay Men - incidentally, they both could point to Wilmot's End.


Which is why I'm inclined to believe that neither is right, and it's the one about hats. We're expecting to see Clathermont, because of his appearance at the Feast: dropping his name would be the most likely to direct us down an obfuscated cul-de-sac.



Wine in front of me?
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MidnightVoyager
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3/9/2013
Madison Nosidam wrote:
Emain Ablach wrote:
Madison, I'm quite... knowledgeable about the Bazaar. And not bad at riddles. But I ca't figure this one out either. wink It's hard.


Oh SIGH.
I was never good at riddles. Seems I'm still not good at them. :/

Though I wonder- do I have to be a Person of Some Importance to get it? Is it a skill challenge?


Don't worry about it, I think the hints are actually starting to get either less helpful or more purposefully obtuse while simultaneously saying that they are Really Good Clues. Because where I once had ideas, now I have none.
edited by MidnightVoyager on 3/9/2013

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Spacemarine9
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3/9/2013
i have a tendency to look at something i've written and then decide it's badly phrased and change it
although, uh, yeah. singular mechanic
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Spacemarine9
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3/9/2013
i should probably stop saying things because i'm either going to give the game away or perpetually confuse everyone. just look real hard at richard's mantelpiece

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Jack Vaux-Harrowden
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3/9/2013
Well, I'm desperate enough that I'm searching all the artwork depicting the river for hidden clickable hats, revealed only by their eyes.

This is both incredibly exciting and damnably irritating.
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Little The
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3/10/2013
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to accept the fact I'm not going to get one. I have no idea what "beneath the box" or "a sentence's end" could possibly mean at this point, and those were apparently the most helpful hints, so.

I suck at riddles.

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Madison Nosidam
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3/10/2013
Okay so I am in such a bind. I FEEL close, but that doesn't mean I am.

Okay so. Little used game mechanic, 'under' the box, coffee, tramp steamer...

Aaugh, I am going to cry even more this is the worst. I almost want this to be over and then the answer to get out so I can just KNOW.

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aurion
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3/10/2013
So glad I finally worked it out. A great puzzle.
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Emain Ablach
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3/10/2013
And I still don't understand the way of getting it. Sigh.

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narcissus_echo
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3/10/2013
Can I just say, lurking this thread has been a thing of beauty, even (especially) after figuring it out.

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Spacemarine9
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3/10/2013
It might be a good idea to not give away the fact you have a box, just sayin.

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Emain Ablach
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3/9/2013
Madison, I'm quite... knowledgeable about the Bazaar. And not bad at riddles. But I ca't figure this one out either. wink It's hard.

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BorisTrout
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3/9/2013
I see Space Marine posted the solution elsewhere, so people who haven't solved the puzzle are getting it now... I dont' really like the idea of a secret club scooping the rest of the community, so i'll post the solution here tomorrow under spoilers unless Alexis does his Word of God thing.
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MidnightVoyager
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3/9/2013
Richard wrote:
And in the hope of bringing a bit of the fun back to this thread... something on my mantelpiece page has changed, compared to earlier.

Not a spoiler by any means, but it might make the pieces fall into place if your brain is at the right temperature. So only look if you're OK with that :-)

Cheers
Richard


Hypothetically, how would one get to your mantlepiece at all?

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3/9/2013
BorisTrout wrote:
I said before I was going to repost Space Marine's spoiler. Richard's is nearly as big a spoiler, but not quite, so I'm just going to say find his link and click on it.


And with this I've decided that I'm never going to figure it out...

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Violetta
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3/10/2013
I have been playing for more than two years now (first time on the forum though --greetings to all) and had -never- encountered the mechanism of the access code previously. I must have perfectly timed each of my previous absences.

This is especially frustrating because I had the "OURS" code as soon as the Twitter about the "sentence end" was released. I just had no idea how one was supposed to input this information. Ah well.
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Twoflower
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3/10/2013
Just to clarify: Is the lingerie made of money, or is the lingerie-wearing rat made of money? Either one sounds nice.

EDIT: Also, the "woman from the Hill" is the Watchmaker's Daughter, I believe.
edited by Twoflower on 3/10/2013
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Alexander Feld
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3/10/2013
Damn. It seems like every time I go to sleep, something amazing has happened and disappeared by the time I wake up, leaving nothing but a massive and confusing thread.

*sigh* Oh well, the world spins on, and I shall be on the lookout for further boxes. Though the method of obtaining them will probably be even more devious than ever.
edited by Alexander Feld on 3/10/2013

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friendshipranger
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3/10/2013
Well,my rather amusing night has robbed me of the Box, it seems. Still, I never would have figured out what you're all talking about. I never knew that option was even available, to be honest. I'm actually relieved; I'm not an idiot, I was just poorly informed. Thank goodness. In any case, the Game turns on!

TheIncorrigibleRaconteur wrote:
There comes a time when all men of good standing must admit when they are defeated. They must sweep off their hat, graciously now and proclaim acknowledgement of the fact that they have been outplayed by a superior intellect.

Today is not that day. As soon as I am able, I intend to stab one of you in the face and take yours. I have made notes.

Good Day!


Well, then first thing I hear someone grousing on the forums....
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Spacemarine9
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3/10/2013
  • “Beneath the Stolen River, hats lie forgotten. Only their eyes betray them.”
  • “In this matter as so many others, one must seek outside the box.”
  • “One who possesses the river may find the key more readily, but the key is not in the river.”
  • “Catching sunlight is not a matter of luck, nor of chance. It is as simple and as startling as a sentence’s end.”
  • “Sometimes, one must think not only outside the box, but beneath it.”

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Twoflower
Twoflower
Posts: 264

3/11/2013
PetulantProcrastinator wrote:
Spacemarine9 wrote:
I know at least one of them does.


Which one?


I believe it's "Mr. Irons growls in his sleep! What dreams have come to him?"
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Twoflower
Twoflower
Posts: 264

3/11/2013
New theory: Audrey Horne is a Master of the Bazaar.
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Flipz
Flipz
Posts: 177

3/11/2013
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Alexis Kennedy wrote:

So is the Masters' sigil in fact a hat? Well, in Twin Peaks, Audrey Horne puts a tune on the jukebox in the Double-R Diner. "I love this tune", she says. "It's so dreamy." It's her leitmotif, actually, and if you look at the Twin Peaks soundtrack, it's just called 'Audrey's Theme'. So if you'd been able to look at the jukebox track listing, what would it have said? That always fucked with my head.


Funnily enough, Twin Peaks, and the scene of Bobby listening to the car radio, is my go-to example when discussing the digetic and fuckery with same.


Having recently beaten the game (and good Masters I love the series), my example would have to be Godot's ringtone (from Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations) being HIS theme music. Of course, in his case, Godot being the slightly-crazy coffee addict prosecutor he is, he's completely unperturbed, but everyone else in the courtroom has something of a "WTF?" reaction. :P Try and find a YouTube link if you can, it's a great moment.

...actually, Phoenix Wright would transition REALLY well to StoryNexus... >:-D

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Richard
Richard
Posts: 304

3/11/2013
Dawson wrote:
“Beneath the Stolen River, hats lie forgotten. Only their eyes betray them.”

I feel a little foolish, but this clue still doesn't make sense to me in context. It's definitely my favorite though x)

This frustrated me too, but Alexis was nice enough to explain it to me (after I'd found the box, of course).

>> The River in a Box had a "sigil of the masters" on its underside... in other words, the sigil was "beneath the Stolen River" in the box. What I hadn't realised, but has been pointed out several times in this thread now, is that the hat-with-eyes thing that appears all over the place is the sigil of the Masters. <<

As befits the first day's clue, it was seriously obscure. I am picturing Alexis cackling with glee when we all decided he was just being silly.
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Diptych
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3/11/2013
Logically, monocles would predate spectacles, even if only briefly...

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