... people might think the moderator role is a paid one. :-p

I am moderately anticipatory.

I am eagerly waiting for tomorrow content.

Anyone has wild speculation?

• "And this year, we’ll be unveiling a little more of the mystery of the Lady in Lilac."
• "The early Clathermont content has been rationalised - to make it easier to find and traverse. There’s a reason that’s happening this month…"

> is the end point that we've been toiling towards for months, zipping past us like the exit for the airport on the other side of three lanes of highway.


I've been quite vigorous on these boards lately in defence of artistic privilege, so let me say that I do recognise there's a point at which 'devotion to vision' turns into 'being a dick'. So let me commit to this: there will be time-limited events, there will be cool stuff that not everyone sees, but we're not going to end the game on a whim, we're not going to lock people permanently out of core plotlines because they're a little bit unlucky. If it looks like that's happened, then don't panic! Either you'll be reassured shortly, or we did a bug.


Unless you're looking for Mr Eaten, in which case you're fucked.

I think only having a handful of player have access to the storylet was by design. They wanted it to be a brief glimpse of sunlight and then it flickered away. The sort of thing you miss if you blink, which most of us did. They made a brief storylet that some were lucky enough to enjoy, but it wasn't mandatory, so if you missed it that's just too bad. It was meant to be missed by most and you're meant to feel like you missed out on something. If everyone got it, then it wouldn't be special. It's so unique that to see it was literally Impossible!
Them's the breaks in Fallen London. Some people get to see the sun, but you were too busy sleeping so you didn't. But you do hear rumor that once, back during the Feat of '91, that a friend of your's saw it, and it was remarkable. Impossible!, really.

FL gave out free stuff so there is no sense in complaining that you weren't one of the ones to get the free stuff. You didn't loose anything; they gained something.
It's the VooDoo Economics of Fallen London. The Bazaar is not a Keynesian.

I think only having a handful of player have access to the storylet was by design. They wanted it to be a brief glimpse of sunlight and then it flickered away. The sort of thing you miss if you blink, which most of us did. They made a brief storylet that some were lucky enough to enjoy, but it wasn't mandatory, so if you missed it that's just too bad. It was meant to be missed by most and you're meant to feel like you missed out on something. If everyone got it, then it wouldn't be special. It's so unique that to see it was literally Impossible!

The other things that people need to remember is that there is a slew of content you never had access to due to time and no one is complaining about that. Most people weren't able to be involved in the Knife & Candle. Even fewer have Apples of Discord. Few of you have Wolfie or a Handsome Lad with a Healthy Appetite or a Rubbery Investigator or a Selection of Jilts Treasures. Very, very few of you were around during the Feat of '89 for the Admired competition. There is stuff you missed and there is stuff you will miss.
I missed it too. It doesn't feel great. While that actor did a great improv scene, he did it at my local pub I go to every day and I've bought every DVD of every film he's ever done and I really, really regret that I missed it. Life is full of disappointment.
It also feels like the greatest city in the world, the one I've lived in my whole life, has been dragged underground by bats! We're English(even those of you who aren't, if you're playing Fallen London, are a little English) and we endure. Stiff upper lip. Close your eyes, and think of England, chaps. All is well and all shall be well.

The other things that people need to remember is that there is a slew of content you never had access to due to time and no one is complaining about that. Most people weren't able to be involved in the Knife & Candle.

It's a shame that FB didn't think to advertise this in advance... it was over so quickly! I would have been gutted to miss it - and I was only around for the very end.

ARGH! I was out of actions when this started - I now have seven left and I'm just watching time tick down. Do I have any prospect of getting my lacre up from 5 to 7 with my three unused pails of snow?

The mirrorcatch box was also probably a new thing, but nobody has one.

Spacemarine9 wrote:

The mirrorcatch box was also probably a new thing, but nobody has one.

11 very cunning Fallen Londoners have one, but they're wisely not publicising the fact.


Happy March, everyone.

confirmed: third mr eaten candle only obtainable for ten minutes on one day of the year at the most inconvenient time possible, requires three items only someone who stopped playing months ago knows about

Catherine Raymond wrote:

Though I must admit, the Sunlight content was the first thing to make me happy...

MidnightVoyager wrote:

I can't actually find anyone I know happy with the event,

While we're on the subject of transient content, is it still possible to get a Mirrorcatch Box (if it even has a future use), or would searching prove fruitless and we'd be better off just selling our river-in-a-boxes?

Ah Alexis, my point really was that broken analogies are broken, not that you are disrespectful. But you will notice that quite a lot of people WERE angry in this case. The thing is, when an online game makes a time-limited event nowadays, you do expect it to announce it

Re: medium: most online games are run by good-sized companies who need maximum buck for their time-limited bang. It would be unthinkable and impractical for the creative lead on GW2 to run a time-limited event on their own in an evening. I can see that, yes, that creates expectations around online games. But Fallen London is something different and eccentric, and we're going to go right on being different and eccentric.

Zeedee wrote:

During the last hour of the Feast, a golden storylet appeared. It popped up at the top of the storylet column for each(?) Fallen London area. As the Feast ended, so did the storylet; it was available for 1-2 hours. It was entitled "...a wash of sunlight?" and it tossed us all into a frenzy.

"At the End of the Feast, the Sun was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."
edited by Saharan on 3/2/2013

I too was One of those who were online at the time of the event but unable to participate due to lack of actions.

Zeedee wrote:

I don't want to speak for everyone, but some people are probably not upset at the lack of material rewards; they are sorely disappointed with not even having the choice to participate. It's not their fault. It's not the FL team's fault, either. Nothing was promised...but allotting a short time span to a major event which includes the sight of the sun, the greatest symbol of the Surface itself, is gonna sting a large number of people. *hands out bandages and F.F. Gebrandt Tinctures of Vigour* Dear Staff, please reconsider hosting future events with such short time frames. The two weeks of festivities is greatly appreciated, but I still can't help thinking I would have given up 13 of those days to have an entire day to watch the sun.

Indeed. Would it have been so hard to simply have the gold storylet unlock at the dawn of the last day, and stay there until played through? The time-altered-rewards could easily be managed the same way so many other storylets are in Fallen London. Have a quality that changes as you play it, build it like a progressing story. "The Spire-sun starts shining, what do?", "The Spire-sun is at its brightest, what do?", and finally "The Spire-sun is fading, what do?". Limiting it the way they did leads to excluding the majority of the playerbase at best, and sours the entire Feast for some people at worst.

I think only having a handful of player have access to the storylet was by design. They wanted it to be a brief glimpse of sunlight and then it flickered away. The sort of thing you miss if you blink, which most of us did. They made a brief storylet that some were lucky enough to enjoy, but it wasn't mandatory, so if you missed it that's just too bad. It was meant to be missed by most and you're meant to feel like you missed out on something.

Some people get to see the sun, but you were too busy sleeping so you didn't.

I suggest a compromise on future Friday nights, good sir: work from the pub!


A twist in your tale! You are now my best mate, you are, mate!
You have gained 1 x Unsettling Kebab (new total: ??)
You have lost 1 x Memories of the Evening (new total: 0)

Except we did loose something. We lost the ability to experience that content for ourselves, and as far as I'm concerned that's a far greater loss than any reward that game with those actions.

Instead, I've put together quite an unusual piece of content which is much more gently time-limited - it'll run at least a week past the end of the Feast. I suspect this one will also divide opinion: but it won't exclude anyone, and I'm interested to see how the experiment plays out. We expect to launch this tomorrow, alongside the weekly snippet.

babelfishwars wrote:

... people might think the moderator role is a paid one. :-p

I am moderately anticipatory.

Pun intended? :-)

Catherine Raymond wrote:

MidnightVoyager wrote:

Nigel Overstreet wrote:

Catherine Raymond wrote:

Though I must admit, the Sunlight content was the first thing to make me happy...

MidnightVoyager wrote:

I can't actually find anyone I know happy with the event,

I did say people I know. I am not acquainted with Catherine Raymond there, to my knowledge.

I apologize for intervening, then. I misunderstood how narrow your reference was intended to be.

Heh, I was really just trying to convey that I was surrounded by grumpy, disappointed people all day yesterday, you know? I had fun during the event, but I couldn't really help but feel sorry for the people I was surrounded by.

Hmm. It appears I was a little preoccupied in Newgate while everyone got to enjoy the sun. Along with the unfortunate timing of losing my Connected: The Masters which denied me a River in a Box (not to mention the first disappointment of missing the fur coat), I will admit that I'm a touched peeved at the luck I've been experienced, and perhaps a little at Failbetter for allowing such situations to exist. While it may be great fun for the player of one week who gets an end-game item and secret, the devoted players who have played for years are practically given a smack to the face, all in the name of chance. I've read the explanation as to why this has happened, and still find myself unsatisfied: it feels insulting that these excuses should be enough, to be blunt.

Oh well, ignore the cat-profiled player sulking in the corner. Or the other half of the fanbase which has missed the event. Aside from a complete replay of this vital content on the Sun, I don't see my feelings for this game being completely restored. This slight towards the fanbase as a whole has been sourly noted.

I'll tell you what it's like, and this is barely an analogy at all, more a restatement of the case. It's like an actor showing up unexpectedly to do improv in a public square, or a writer doing a surprise reading of an unpublished short story, or Banksy painting a mural on a building scheduled for demolition the next day. There are people who would write to them and complain that they had been 'disrespectful' to their fan base by not advertising it in advance or running repeat performances, but I really hope you wouldn't want to be one of those people.

That's quite helpful! Kudos to Flapdragon and thanks for sharing! I'm just going to haphazardly make new "Bask in the light" pages on the FL wikia to add all this interesting new text. I'm not sure how to work the FL wikidot, so someone else will have to do that.

With that said, I can't actually find anyone I know happy with the event, even ones who managed to experience it. I know some people who are quitting the game, some who have sunk into ambivalence... nobody actually happy with it. Even people who were happy at first are now disgruntled because of how disappointed everyone else is.

It was a nice experiment and all, something sudden and very temporary, but I'm not sure the experiment succeeded?

I can also see that it might have looked like a cataclysmic and essential event, and I can understand that people who've been playing the game for years would have been disappointed if it had been something that important: