 NinjaComedian Posts: 202
11/18/2013
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Aspeon wrote:
For a time, token distributions were happening pretty regularly, so it's much more than 3/player. (But they capped at ~20, so you had to get most of them from stabbing others.) I wonder if they'll ever send out more prize tokens. The closest I got was about 20 tokens... all lost to me now unfortunately.
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 Malgorath Posts: 124
11/19/2013
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xKiv wrote:
ETA: Cerise's might be (one of) the reason(s) why Alexis wrote that not every Seeker will be able to complete the Seeking ...
I really fear that all my work will be for nothing. I have waited a while to be marsh-mired and a few people have waited over a month before I even got to that point. I really hope that Alexis pushes another wave of us up and sends out more prize tokens soon. Frankly, SMEN has been my favorite part of the game for a very long time. Even before I starting seeking, I had seen a bit about it on the wiki and knew that I had to check it out. It's been a long, painful road. I'd hate for it to be a dead-end for those of us that got to it a tad late. Also, when did Alexis say that? I took a bit of a break and was out of the loop for a while.
-- Phil - TRAVELLER RETURNING
Malgorath - A new member of the Neath.
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 Jabberwocky Posts: 6
11/19/2013
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peot wrote:
I recently stumbled upon this story and have managed to advance it to Level 3. The Wiki tells me the next steps (up to 6) are done by opportunity cards. Has anybody done this story sufficiently to tell me the names of the cards involved and, most importantly, if there are location restrictios on drawing them?
A serial victim of his own curiosity.
Leave it alone. No, really. Just leave it alone. There is nothing good to be gained in seeking after that.
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 Laluzi Posts: 456
11/19/2013
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There's so much to be gained, though! Lore! Intrigue! Lots of beer! A means to get those pesky devils to stop flirting with you! Candles! Exciting new cuisine! And, ah, horrific misery, yes.
-- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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 Little The Posts: 700
11/19/2013
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A bit late to the party, but, why do I seek? When one has sampled everything, one must sample nothing. That's it. In the early game (where I entered the start of SMEN), I didn't really roleplay at all -- I just wanted to try everything. I didn't know there was anything special about SMEN -- I thought it was just another quest, and wanted to do it for completion's sake. Once I got to the stains/scars/chains stage, I considered dropping out because advancement seemed unattainable, but after I hit the content gap, I got bored and went for it anyway. Oh sure, the writing is spectacular, the mystery and lore is intriguing, but at the end of the day, I think that's my intrinsic motivation.
I don't think I fully realized it or wanted to admit it to myself until I got to St Beau's candle, but when I saw that option it suddenly hit me: that's why I'm doing this. Because I'm a pathetic hedonist running on boredom, heedless of whatever suffering it causes me.
It's also why I'm now considering dropping out. It would be a pity to waste all my effort, but at the same time, I've been trying to roleplay more. Well "roleplay" is a stretch, I've basically just been playing as myself -- but if I was in this situation I would have abandoned this quest long ago. I'm not willing to throw away my sanity and well-being in a quest that's likely to be fruitless. There's so much else to enjoy in Fallen London; I may as well focus on that instead. Perhaps one day the non-Seekers will have an opportunity to discover the final secret of this quest -- wouldn't that be a delicious irony? If the Seekers drive themselves so mad in their quest to find the Name that either they cannot find it, or if they do, they cannot comprehend it, and only a non-Seeker possesses the clarity to find the real truth?
Still a fascinating quest, in every aspect. Someone really should write a sociology paper on it. edited by Little The on 11/19/2013
-- A gentleman of numerous descriptors that change far too often. Second chance and menace reduction invites are welcome.
My journey to Seek the Name is recorded for posterity here. I asked "Who is Salt?"
I am a member of the Temple Club. If you would like an invitation, feel free to request one!
Fallen London is a game of choices. When you make an important one, you can record your rationale here.
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 Little The Posts: 700
11/19/2013
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Also: not sure if this has been brought up before, but I think it's pertinent information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight
Perhaps further investigation along this line could help us figure out who Saints E and F are?
-- A gentleman of numerous descriptors that change far too often. Second chance and menace reduction invites are welcome.
My journey to Seek the Name is recorded for posterity here. I asked "Who is Salt?"
I am a member of the Temple Club. If you would like an invitation, feel free to request one!
Fallen London is a game of choices. When you make an important one, you can record your rationale here.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
11/19/2013
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Arthur, Beau, Cerise and Gawain are streets in New Orleans. You may consider if this is either a tremendous meta-prank, a coincidence or somehow thematically appropriate. Destin isn't, but that one doesn't exist anyway.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 streetfelineblue Posts: 1459
11/20/2013
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I did not know about the streets in New Orleans! But St. Gawain's candle does seem to have a connection with the Gawain of the Arthurian myth: the alt-text in the option on the "Contretemps at a restaurant" Opportunity card goes like "You will never obtain this candle, and even if you were to do so, you would lose the very head from your shoulders.", just like happened to the Green Knight in his first confrontation with sir Gawain. It is to be noted that the Green Knight didn't die at all, but calmly took his head back and marched away from the room, after issuing a challenge to Gawain, a fact that could hint to a possible continuation of the SMEN storyline even after a beheading?
-- Twitter: @streetfelineblu Blue's LiveJournal Blue's Echo Bazaar profile Blue's Night Circus diary Link to Ocelot's Enigma Ambition hint page; PM for clarification. No direct solutions provided.
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 Blackleaf Posts: 552
11/20/2013
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Oh my god. HE COMES
-- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
11/20/2013
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Last week, I misclicked and lost SMEN (and St Arthur and Beau's candles). Since then, thanks to two different people, I am Seeking again and have St Destin's candle. I am trying to advance SMEN as fast as I can to get to 7 before the Feast ends, so I can pass on St Destin's candle.
So far I'm at 5 (plus one change point). I've been spending so much time on this that I felt like unburdening myself here, but it's probably not very interesting, so spoiler tags to let people skim by it (minimal actual spoilers).
[spoiler]I have learned:
Educating Lyme is a rotten way to raise Unaccountably Peckish, because successes drop it much faster than failures raise it. (Got my first point at the Carnival and the rest from passing a Starveling Cat or speaking of terrible things at the Duchess's salon.)
I am definitely cashing out my connections after the Feast to reduce my deck size, because pulling cards is driving me up a wall. That's my principal bottleneck here: I'm a Shepherd of Souls, which means I have a get-out-of-menace-free opportunity card, but it's an _opportunity card_ and I haven't seen it ONCE since this quest started. So while I am now at the point where I can reliably raise SMEN at Mahogany Hall, the menaces I gain thereby need constant tending.
(I hadn't been taking the slow routes to reduce menaces because I was flipping cards hoping for the fast way and using my extra actions to try for a rare SMEN success outside the Labyrinth, but I haven't seen that success at all either and time must be running short, so time to focus on the slower but more guaranteed route.)
I did get at least three SMEN opportunity cards, though, which is possibly proof the RNG doesn't entirely hate me or possibly proof that it really does, depending on your point of view.[/spoiler]
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
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 Laluzi Posts: 456
11/20/2013
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Oh no, I missed the dreams? D: I'm at 2/5/2 for stained, scarred, and chained. :x Guess it's another few months in coming, for me.
-- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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 streetfelineblue Posts: 1459
11/20/2013
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Blackleaf wrote:
Oh my god. HE COMES
...Zalgo? O_o
-- Twitter: @streetfelineblu Blue's LiveJournal Blue's Echo Bazaar profile Blue's Night Circus diary Link to Ocelot's Enigma Ambition hint page; PM for clarification. No direct solutions provided.
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 Blackleaf Posts: 552
11/20/2013
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streetfelineblue wrote:
Blackleaf wrote:
Oh my god. HE COMES
...Zalgo? O_o The correspondence is basicly zalgo so yeah.
-- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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 mayexist Posts: 132
11/20/2013
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an_ocelot wrote:
I did get at least three SMEN opportunity cards, though, which is possibly proof the RNG doesn't entirely hate me or possibly proof that it really does, depending on your point of view.
I never know how to react to progress reports from seekers either. Congratulations for your loss? Sorry to hear about your good news?
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 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
11/20/2013
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Hee. Well, the menace-clearing card I was waiting for just appeared, so I should make somewhat quicker progress . . .
. . . no, no, the Confessions storylet is gone from my Lodgings, sometime in the last few hours.
Okay, time to nuke Connected and stop pumping SMEN!
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
11/20/2013
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Are you sure? The Confessions storylet is still there for me.
It's unlocked with Confessions 1 now, but if you didn't have Confessions 1 you couldn't have sent the candle anyway...
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
11/20/2013
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. . . oops.
Well! The blue storylet had been there even though all the options were locked and now it's not, but I cannot BELIEVE that I forgot I'd have to actually keep some Confessions change points in reserve to be eligible, not just also unlock SMEN 7.
I swear, (my behavior during) this whole Feast is fired. edited by an_ocelot on 11/20/2013
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
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 Zharend Posts: 26
11/21/2013
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I lost my soul to certain devils, but now that I've the fate to get it back, I can't draw the card for the life of me. Why must RNG hate me.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Justsomeguy2
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 Murky Posts: 58
11/21/2013
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I am temerarious. edited by an emptiness on 11/21/2013
-- Add me whenever: @th4tOn3Guy http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Murky
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 Alonois Posts: 30
11/21/2013
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Zharend wrote:
I lost my soul to certain devils, but now that I've the fate to get it back, I can't draw the card for the life of me. Why must RNG hate me.
I have twice drawn the number of candles card despite not even having close to the required items, and been betrayed by the starveling cat four times. Becoming a seeker transforms your luck into some bizarre parody of what you want.
-- Shhh
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