 Tesuji Posts: 161
1/11/2013
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It appears that we have a new character development option (or, alternatively, I've been oblivious and am just noticing something that has been around for a while; I'm not ruling that out).
From the Docks connection card, By the River's Side: the Docks:
Choose Rat-Catcher as your profession (Requirements: Dangerous 20, Connected: the Docks 25)
"Last rat-catcher I hired used to shoot man-eaters in Bengal. He went 'ome after a week." "We need someone discreet. Someone reliable. Someone no-one dares cross." A Profession gives you a single unique item; in this case, a Ratting Piece. You may only have one Profession at a time.
Has anyone seen any other Profession options?
Edit: From the Hell connection card, Burning Shadows: the Devils of London:
Choose Trickster as your Profession (Requirements: an Infernal information 1, Connected: Hell 25)
"You're trouble. No, no, sit down, don't worry, we like that. We wanted you to meet someone. Hubert, step forward. (Today, he's called Hubert.)" A Profession gives you a single unique item; in this case, a Loathsome Imp. You may only have one Profession at a time. edited by Tesuji on 1/11/2013
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 Blast_Fantastic Posts: 63
1/13/2013
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Lady Red wrote:
Well, if you're in Society, it would be positively gauche to have a profession, surely? One's profession is person of leisure! The notion that those of us in Society would recoil from work is ridiculous.
On the contrary! Work fascinates me. I could sit around and watch it for hours.
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
3/24/2013
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Jon Thistlewhite wrote:
I wonder if the reason that professions such as Doctor, Lawyer, etc aren't available because they require (at least on the surface) a good deal of training and education beforehand. I'm quite hoping there is a lawyer storylet coming up! We've done the copper part of Law & Order: Fallen London with the Jack storyline, but now it's time to be Jack McCoy!
It would start out with Entering the New Old Bailey, or whatever to begin progress on the storylet. Then you pick either criminal or civil court. Of course civil would be more profitable, but criminal could give quirks or, better yet, Making Waves to compensate. Then it's a regular carousel, with each storylet, and they'd be all over Fallen London and some even across the Zee, increases a quality Building a Case or some such. Then the rewards could be chosen based on how high you want the case to go. Building a Case of 5 gives you a low level reward, but of something completely different that the Building a Case 10 gives you. That way you could do a lot of little cases to grind for Jade or a few big cases to grind for Visions of the Surface. Best of all, the Building a Case quality would have a cap, so the most prestigious case and profitable case would still involve a matter of luck. Just like in a real court case, no matter how well you prepare, sometimes you just get a bum jury! But there are always low level cases for folks who hate luck checks, it's just that the higher level cases are more profitable in the long run as long as you're willing to endure the frustration of failing 20-50% of the time. And because the Victorian legal system is so messed up, you can work the same case again and again, ala Jarndyce and Jarndyce. A carousel is perfect for showing the absurdity of the Victorian court system and how it's only profitable for the lawyers; who would be us!
Just a rough thought I had about the next Watchful storylet. It's not like I've written copy or anything. Okay, I might have written some copy...
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 Lady Red Posts: 517
1/11/2013
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Oooh, how exciting! My great great great grandfather was actually a rat catcher in the East End docks, so maybe I should choose that
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
3/15/2013
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i'm looking forward to the profession: maniac unlocked with ludicrously high reputation: abomination, and every week it gives you massive amounts of menace and a tiny amount of progess towards the next candle so it takes you months to progress
i really shouldn't be giving alexis ideas, should i
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374
1/16/2013
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bjorntfh wrote:
(she said she put in a fix, but apparently it didn't take. She's fixing it now).
It's not at all important, but to save possible later confusion, most people call me 'he'. :-)
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
10/16/2013
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You know what's awesome? An Earnest of Payment caps at one. What the crap, Failbetter? The reason's obvious, surely? Failbetter are giving players an incentive to check in occasionally. If Earnests of Payment stacked, it wouldn't work. This seems to me among the less offensive means a company might use to retain their user base.
now you're actively penalizing us I also find that professions adversely affect my enjoyment of the Unterzee, but 'actively penalizing' is a bit much. They are giving you something extra for returning to London. If you stay abroad, you are no worse off than you would have been before professions were introduced.
There was little incentive to go overseas in the first place I almost don't know what to say to this. I mean, you're aware of the many thousands of words that can only be read if you do. I take it that in your estimation, this wanton verbiage is ancillary to Fallen London's subtle and compelling economic model, boastfully described by its own creator as making 'less than no sense' and 'marginally easier' to poke holes in than 'over-ripe Brie'?
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 Nagato-01 Posts: 92
1/12/2013
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To be fair, any of us would easily put the greatest Surface men and women to shame. While Darwin expounds on his latest thesis on evolution, I bred an owl capable of eating your thoughts.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
11/28/2013
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salirsalisco wrote:
Just to share my personal experience, like others here I am pretty frustrated by the Notability mechanics. I play every day of the week throughout the whole day, at the office and from home, yet I don't get the Slowcake card (or the Townhouse cards) often enough to keep my Notability above 1. A couple of times it happened that I didn't get the Slowcake card for a whole week, so even though my Making Waves was high I couldn't convert it before my Notability decreased again.
For what it's worth, you can summon the Amanuensis card at your lodgings (Under "Attend to matters of society and scandal) if you hit MW 15, which almost any option on the Scheme should give you. It will cost you a couple change points of MW, but nothing huge. Besides that, you just need to get lucky with the Townhouse card... there are other avenues of getting MW but they almost all boil down to a change point each. If you still have access to the Empress's Court, there are a few actions there which can reliably boost your Waves.
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 streetfelineblue Posts: 1459
10/4/2013
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The problem with Notability and similar mechanics requiring a long preparation and resources investment followed by a basically luck-based outcome determination is that somewhat they manage to present the worst aspects of grinding and luck together. I can stand grinding if it is a slow but certain way to get somewhere, just like I can stand luck if it is a quick, brutal yes-or-no outcome. What I don't really like is to have to spend time and resources grinding for an outcome that could simply not come and send you back to square one - like amassing Making Waves only for the related cards never appearing until the weekly reboot, or a single defeat bringing your Parade of Victories back to zero in Knife-and-Candle T.T
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 Tesuji Posts: 161
1/16/2013
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
3 Sworn Statements (Goods, worth 2.5 echoes) and 10 Dubious Testimony (Goods, worth .5 echoes.) These would fit nicely as the Tier 3 and 4 items in the lonely Legal category, with Legal Document as the Tier 5 item.
-- Tesuji.
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
8/11/2013
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Cookoo wrote:
Sigh, all that effort, wasted... I went from writing books to catching rats in a day... Might I console you with a book written by a professional rat-catcher? It won't be published until 1898, so should you wish to take up the pen again, you can plagiarise with impunity. I would particularly commend to you Matthews' delightful habit of incorporating headings into his sentences, thus:
Now to deal with the different methods of catching Rats. The best way, in my opinion, is, TRAPPING THEM WITH STEEL SPRING TRAPS. Whenever you are trapping, never on any consideration put bait on the traps; always put traps in their runs, but you will find Rats are so cunning that in time, after a few have been caught, they will jump over the traps, and then you must try another way. I make only two further observations.
- As Matthews is at pains to point out, rats are very, very cunning. But if you read this book, you shall know their weaknesses; for instance, that they can survive in water for not much more than seven minutes, and in particular, that:
There is... one power that the Rat is not favoured with, and I am afraid if they were they would be a greater pest. It is the ability of high jumping. A Rat cannot, I think, jump higher than three feet six inches, and will have to be very hungry before doing that to obtain food. - This book also demonstrates that if you are sufficiently earnest, any subject becomes really very funny.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
10/4/2013
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It is one the most aggravating things in the game now. I've decided not to bother with raising Notability at the moment, but I have upgraded my profession so it isn't quite as annoying as for someone who hasn't got to that stage yet.
But I am still maintaining my Salon. It does mean that I have to keep grinding my society and getting Stolen Kisses to convert to Favours in High Places but I wonder how high I can get my Scheme before there are any uses for Notability.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 Lady Red Posts: 517
10/4/2013
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I am entirely ignoring that part of the game too. I think I got the slowcake's card once in the last three weeks, and the letter card zero times. I really do think these need to be made into storylets; as it stands, it's almost impossible to play this part of the game.
I have given up being notable, or spending time on the salon, because it all seems rather pointless right now. Hopefully new options will be introduced later, but as it stands it just doesn't work.
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 Master Polarimini Posts: 310
4/6/2013
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
I wonder - is a given calling more or less likely to become a Profession if it already exists within game mechanics? Law and Medicine are both fine, established, respectable fields within Fallen London, but neither is open to we adventurous few. Other similarly well-regarded careers - science, academia, politics - have already, to greater or lesser extents, been explored. The existing Professions generally tie in with previous content, and sometimes even use it as prerequisites... What I really really would like is the Profession Inventor... I started the game with one of those special profession-oriented packages Failbetter gave several months ago (one of which was exactly the inventor or something similar) and I based my character as a sort of kind-of crazy radical steampunkish inventor, but FL is sorely lacking in options that exploit this direction (except, well, for the Zubmarine), so having such a profession would be great. Or does it sound too freelance?
-- Devices workshop opening soon...
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 Tesuji Posts: 161
4/25/2013
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If your connection is very low, there's always the Carnival and the connection item (but those top out at 10 and 20, respectively).
Visiting the Wry Functionary (requires acquaintance with the Wry Functionary and access to the Shuttered Palace) yields +2 CPs of Great Game and Society connections, which is the best non-opportunity storylet I'm familiar with for raising this connection.
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
1/12/2013
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Well, I'm piecing together all the Professional information I can find...
Trickster - Urchins or Hell - Loathsome Imp - +2s +2p Campaigner - Revolutionaries or Church - Feckless Supporters - +2p +2d Journalist - Bohemians - Little Red Notebook - +2p +2w Enforcer - Revolutionaries or Criminals - Burly Assistant Watcher - Constables or Great Game - Revolting Disguise Rat-Catcher - Docks - Ratting Piece
I haven't seen a Society card, but I'd be surprised if they don't offer Journalist. Rat-Catcher doesn't seem to have a second Connection. Orient and Tomb-Colonists both seem Professionless - either would fit Rat-Catching, though given that the Orient seems to be being phased out of the regular London connections - no Pet, no letter-writing option, and I've not seen a skill card from them in a while - it's probably not them.
If every reward item follows the pattern demonstrated here, then I'd guess the Burly Assistant would be Dangerous and Shadowy. The Disguise... Shadowy and Watchful? And that would leave the Ratting Piece to be Dangerous and Watchful.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 friendshipranger Posts: 274
1/12/2013
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This is deeply exciting! Imagine the possibilities! We could have promotions or even combine this with items to unlock higher level promotions! Maybe the "rumourmonger's network" on one of the scraps cards will be unlocked, and lead to an ultra rare profession!? Oh I'm practically giddy. I want to be a Great Game network controller. So. Bad.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/J.L.%20Moriarty
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 Lady Red Posts: 517
1/12/2013
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Well, if you're in Society, it would be positively gauche to have a profession, surely? One's profession is person of leisure!
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lady~Red
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
1/12/2013
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Come, man - this is the 1890s! We can't all live off the income of our estates - particularly given that most of those estates were presumably left on the Surface, or else there'd be more than mushrooms to eat. Very nice professionals are seen in the finest of company - more often, I'll grant you, doctors and barristers, rather than rat-catchers, standover-men and police informants, but the point is, times are changing! Changing for the hoi-poi, perhaps, but this is London's greatest time of exporting capital. The Empire thrives! I have more than my fair share of monetary endeavors; the trading of secrets at The Overstreet Tea Shoppe has never been more lucrative. But engaging in such debasement as employment? With a salary like a common Clay Man? London may have fallen, but I don't think it has fallen so low as that! I've always felt early rising and early living led to nervousness and I shall have no part of it.
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
1/11/2013
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Iiiiinteresting and exciting! I'm always happy to see ways we can get integrated into Fallen London proper, and not just being wandering adventurers - though, naturally, by the time we're Persons of Some Importance, we're ladies and gentlemen and ladi- er, gentle- ah, yes, of leisure, and would only pursue a professional post of the highest standing - Head of the Royal College of Pseudosurgeons, say, or Minister for Infernal Affairs, or Chair of the Society for Farcical Research.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
1/11/2013
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everyone in fallen london is actually unemployed because the bazaar put them out of business All of them.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751
1/11/2013
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There's a Write A Letter storylet at your lodging, allowing you to resign from the professions.
The current professions seem to be (at least the one you can resign from): Enforcer (Criminal) Campaigner () Rat-Catcher (Docks) Trickster (Hell) Watcher () Journalist () edited by Byron Man on 1/11/2013
-- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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 PetulantProcrastinator Posts: 75
3/15/2013
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Spacemarine9 wrote:
i'm looking forward to the profession: maniac unlocked with ludicrously high reputation: abomination, and every week it gives you massive amounts of menace and a tiny amount of progess towards the next candle so it takes you months to progress
i really shouldn't be giving alexis ideas, should i
Your dedication to Seeking to the point that you actually look forward to/enjoy/suggest ways for it to be ever more horrible is both awe inspiring and terribly worrisome.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
3/15/2013
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sometimes i worry too
they are very occasional sometimes
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 friendshipranger Posts: 274
3/16/2013
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Byron Man wrote:
Spacemarine9 wrote:
i'm looking forward to the profession: maniac unlocked with ludicrously high reputation: abomination, and every week it gives you massive amounts of menace, permanent +x values to menace after y amount of weeks, no amount of progress towards the next candle, alongside the increasingly dire and unfair removal of story-qualities, quirks, and accomplishments every week. All this with a limited amount of players allowed to take this profession, with the requirement for admission into the profession being the consumption of someone who already has it.
Fixed it for you. Hate to be that guy, but you missed a spot. Lemme get that for you. edited by friendshipranger on 3/16/2013
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 Little The Posts: 700
3/16/2013
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Jon Thistlewhite wrote:
I wonder if the reason that professions such as Doctor, Lawyer, etc aren't available because they require (at least on the surface) a good deal of training and education beforehand. The professions that are available now seem to be ones that don't require much prep or training at all. If we do see higher skilled professions, my guess would be that they are linked to storylets in which a character must apprentice first, or be schooled for a period of time. I also imagine they would require a substantial use of "Connected: Society" to have a patron that will pay for your schooling/ connect you to a master of the profession.
Or perhaps Connected: Benthic/Summerset could be used to provide you a tutor? It would give them something to be used for besides item conversions.
-- A gentleman of numerous descriptors that change far too often. Second chance and menace reduction invites are welcome.
My journey to Seek the Name is recorded for posterity here. I asked "Who is Salt?"
I am a member of the Temple Club. If you would like an invitation, feel free to request one!
Fallen London is a game of choices. When you make an important one, you can record your rationale here.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
3/17/2013
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Little The wrote:
Jon Thistlewhite wrote:
I wonder if the reason that professions such as Doctor, Lawyer, etc aren't available because they require (at least on the surface) a good deal of training and education beforehand. The professions that are available now seem to be ones that don't require much prep or training at all. If we do see higher skilled professions, my guess would be that they are linked to storylets in which a character must apprentice first, or be schooled for a period of time. I also imagine they would require a substantial use of "Connected: Society" to have a patron that will pay for your schooling/ connect you to a master of the profession.
Or perhaps Connected: Benthic/Summerset could be used to provide you a tutor? It would give them something to be used for besides item conversions.
Or, perhaps, "Tutor" or "Professor" could be a Profession?
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Theus Posts: 311
3/17/2013
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I think Professor would be hard to reconcile with the University content. It'd be interesting to see less advanced professions that allow one to build reputation instead of a primary attribute.
Barkeep for Bohemian Deacon for the Church Pamphleteer for Revolutionaries Clerk for ... any number of groups who would want access to accounts and/or the mid-level economics of London. Perhaps even freelance it, allowing you to trade your weekly "salary token" to a number of groups to curry their favor.
I like to think of a midnight, sinister and sagacious Bob Cratchit and how such a character would fare in Fallen London (minus the undeserved loyalty, of course).
Totally out of left field and unlikely to happen, however.
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 friendshipranger Posts: 274
3/17/2013
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again- I want third-tier Shadowy professions. Great Game, Revolutionaries, Hell, Criminals. If I could roll Laplace as a professional Reaper for damned souls...so happy.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/J.L.%20Moriarty
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 Owen Wulf Posts: 715
6/6/2013
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Yah, I became a Rat-Catcher hoping that I could get a promotion to bigger game.
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
8/2/2013
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MidnightVoyager wrote:
The list has changed just a bit!
It looks as if the Dreamer has turned into the Mystic and the Conjurer. I hope they eventually release some kind New Old Bailey content so we can have a Conjurer Juror.
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 Victoria Astra Ludlow Posts: 26
8/7/2013
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I was approached by Mr Slowcakes little friend directly after leaving the Cave of Nadir. I didn't even need to flip that card. Regrettably, I left to change my wardrobe and upon my return the fellow was gone. I really do hope that he eventually turns up again. I would like to progress my profession as a Campaigner for the revolutionary cause. However, the only option to progress my profession seemed to be Mystic, if I remember correctly, and I am not that fond of the Church (or Hell for that matter). So maybe Speaker could be an advanced profession that suits my plans. There was also the option to become a Tutor for something something (I have a memory like a sieve).
Crooked Cross appears to be an synonym for con man.
-- Please contact Victoria Astra Ludlow, The Rebellious Flâneuse, a Glasslady and Insurgent for compulsory nanty narking.
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 Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374
8/7/2013
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I've deleted a heated OT argument about a possibly racist etymology. Folks, please - err on the side of caution if there's any chance you're using an offensive term - if you think someone's being racist or discourteous, please use the report link and let us handle it.
Thanks!
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Even if I find this development (notability, stuff related as schemes, professions with exciting names...) it is true that it's an exercise in frustration. First of all raising Making Waves which is not that easy and especially long and action-consuming; then you have to get the Slowcake card which is very random and not that frequent; THEN you need to pass a pretty harsh MW test to get the increase in notability; and if this is not enough every week or so you get a huge hit in both making waves and notability! argh
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 Cookoo Posts: 59
8/11/2013
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I spent all my making waves to gain a point of notability, just to lose it the next day before I managed to use it for anything. Especially irritating since I dropped my Author profession to change to the one I wanted. This can't be how it was intended to work, surely? Considering the amount of effort to get the making waves needed, and the rarity of the card to upgrade, I would have expected it to last longer than the week you get, and that is only if you gain it just after the recovering message, which due to the rare card needed, is unlikely.
Sigh, all that effort, wasted... I went from writing books to catching rats in a day...
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/cookoo
A hunter, of sorts.
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 streetfelineblue Posts: 1459
10/4/2013
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I agree, I am quite happy with the Agent profession, but I had the luck to get the needed cards quite on time, and I still have access to the Court so I could farm Making Waves through the Life of Mind storylet. Since then, related cards seem to have become rarer, so currently I just ignore Notability altogether, I still raise my Scheme: A Salon in case it becomes useful in the future (tier 3 Professions), but the idea to grind Notability up to 5 seems appalling.
To anybody going for the professions right now, I'd suggest to not even bother with Notability unless there's a Profession they really really like for some reason - the Author Profession pays just as good as the others* (actually I think the total goods are the same, but the Author gives an extra in the form of Connected:Bohemian), and it can be obtained without any Notability at all, just an Exceptional Short Story (a bit costly, but by no means difficult to obtain) and a previous career in journalism.
*Except Tutor and Undermanager, that give more Echoes, but in strict monetary (thus, non-convertable) form. edited by streetfelineblue on 10/4/2013
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 MaskedGentleman Posts: 339
8/11/2013
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An update about our nameless amanuensis. The card will not increase Notability past 4. For the more mathematically inclined I had a 67% chance at BDR 22 and Making Waves 18. I also had a 63% chance with BDR 22 and Making Waves 17. I hope this helps your equations.
-- I would like to thank this community and game for the many years of joy you have brought me. May you find your Heart's Desire.
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
8/13/2013
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Could Licentiate be a title for one who is exceptionally, professionally licentious? You rang...
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 Aximillio Posts: 1251
1/16/2013
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Tesuji wrote:
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
3 Sworn Statements (Goods, worth 2.5 echoes) and 10 Dubious Testimony (Goods, worth .5 echoes.) These would fit nicely as the Tier 3 and 4 items in the lonely Legal category, with Legal Document as the Tier 5 item. Just like ostentatious diamonds would fit awfully well as t3 contraband items. Magnificent ones would crash with Comprehensive Bribes, though. That being said, I guess they could do it like Journals/Tales in mysteries? edited by Aximillio on 1/16/2013
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 randomperson Posts: 62
1/25/2013
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New Professions: Tough Minor Poet Pickpocket Enquirer
Source: The unlock requirement for the choose new profession option at the lodgings.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
3/14/2013
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The "Publish poetry in praise of the Duchess" option in the Shuttered Palace under "Entry to the Duchess' Salon" is a pretty good source
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
10/4/2013
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Agreed Sir Frederick - unless you are in a position to flip cards every hour you are definitely at a disadvantage.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
10/17/2013
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Well Earnest of Payment turns up approximately every week. Cash it in then go to Zee for 10-12 days come back to London just to collect the next two then go back to Zee.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 Dawson Posts: 137
10/18/2013
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OPG wrote:
That wasn't my point though. It was elaborated upon in a reply, but that was lost along with all of my tabs in a glorious browser crash. For background, I went on an extensive Zee voyage to explore the Iron Republic and reexamine Polythreme as a source of income. From a mechanical perspective, both were a waste of my time.
If someone is looking for a place to grind for funds, overseas is not the place to look, and Earnests of Payment capping at one just adds insult to injury. This is a shame, as Polythreme and the IR are perhaps the most interesting places in concept, yet there is no mechanical incentive to drag PoSI's over there to grind.
RE: It's very unclear to me what you're identifying as being at stake here. How could it be that exploring the Unterzee and its contents, arguably up there as one of the most perilous untertakings in the Neath, should turn out to be a competitive way to grind general funds? Notwithstanding the fact in the first place, that several places overzeas give storylets which actually /do/, in fact, allow excellent return on certain uncommon resources (Polythreme with the whisper-satin/romantic notions comes to mind), it just doesn't make sense to me conceptually. I'm not sure what could have possibly given you that notion.
So I'm not quite sure what injury you're perceiving on the one hand; but furthermore the idea that you should be unable to collect back-pay on a job that you demonstrably do not perform while out cruising on your Majestic Pleasure Yacht seems highly intuitive, as several Londoners have keenly pointed out. Hardly an insult, surely?
-- To my mind, it seems as though you're complaining that not only is your preposterously parlous vacation time, which your employer already allows you to take indefinitely without the slightest advance notice, and indeed requires no proof of insurance nor guarantee of your return whatsoever, not the most lucrative thing you could be doing with your time; but that your employer's refusal to pay you your weekly rate regardless is insulting? My word, the very idea.
In fact, if this is the kind of treatment that you are accustomed to receiving in the workforce, then verily, good sir, I must insist that you release the nature and location of your current employment forthwith!
edited by Dawson on 10/18/2013
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 Lady Red Posts: 517
10/18/2013
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OPG wrote:
there is no mechanical incentive to drag PoSI's over there to grind.
If you don't want to go to zee to grind, then just don't go, though. No one's making you. I hesitate to impose my own view of how the game 'should' be enjoyed on anyone, but I don't think it's been designed for maximum grind - it's been designed so that we can enjoy the content and so that the rewards make sense.
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 Blackleaf Posts: 552
11/28/2013
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lady ciel wrote:
Blackleaf wrote:
Crikey. Is this the forgotten quarter of the forums? Dont we actuly just have a thread about notability profession?
Yes there is - http://community.failbettergames.com/topic5720-new-professions.aspx
Somehow i forgot that i actuly made that thread.
-- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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