Want to RP a new Steeped In Honey epilogue?

I am pretty sure that I am biting off more than I can chew here, but since I had the idea to group RP a different ending for Mnemosyne’s* and the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor from Steeped In Honey, I have been unable to put it down. And since no one else has posted about it I thought I would get the ball rolling:

So until Failbetter releases an in-cannon story dealing with the red honey den, why don’t we deal with it ourselves via group RP?

I’d like to know if there are any fiction writing roleplayers out there who would like to band together to make our own satisfying epilogue to the exceptional story Steeped In Honey. One that will in all likelihood put an end to Mnemosyne’s, the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor, and a good chunk of the red honey trade. I know that my character, the Six Handed Merchant, has been obsessed with Mnemosyne’s ever since the exceptional story ended, leading me to write the short story below: His Eyes.

Consider this story to be my request to RP a collaborative fiction that will serve as a satisfying epilogue to Steeped In Honey. (The RP session doesn’t have to start with this story, it’s just the first idea that came to me.)

(* Turns out it is pronounced “ne-mos-in-NEE” which I didn’t realize!)

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His Eyes
(Warning: Contains minor spoilers for the exceptional story Steeped In Honey.)

The Six Handed Merchant checked through their rooms at the Royal Bethlehem one last time: no hungover houseguests left over from last night’s party, no students pulling all-nighters in the Correspondence library, no crazy neighbors hiding in the bathtub, no forgotten pets, no strange plants, no malevolent monkeys, no open windows, no stray bats, no drawn curtains, no unlocked doors.

Six sighed contentedly to themselves and slid back the irrigo curtain that covered the heavy iron door leading to their disused salon Few of London’s high society would ever visit the Royal Bethlehem, at least not twice, so Six had found a better use for the space. The Bohemian detective pulled out the three large keys, and one ratwork key, required to open the heavy locks barring the door. As each lock clicked open, Six heard the agitated clicks and savage scrapes of the salon’s last line of defense.

The Bohemian detective turned the final lock and entered the pitch-black room. The agitated clicks turned into hisses of frothing rage from the two enormous sorrow-spiders guarding the salon. Six held their arms wide, cooing and soothing the rabid spiders, assuring them at their home was not being invaded. Slowly, the barely-tame sorrow-spiders calmed down, and slid respectfully back into the darkest corners of the pitch-black room.

Six rotated a set of parabolic mirrors built into the walls. The mirrors directed light from the outer rooms of the apartment into the depths of the salon. Six would never risk entering the salon with a candle, for it contained the culmination of their life’s work: The Web Of London’s Secrets.

The salon had been relieved of its traditional sitting room furniture, and in its place were rows of heavily-ladened desks and bookcases, with papers and odd trinkets piled high on every available surface. The walls of the salon, and even the ceiling, were papered in photographs, newspaper clippings, wanted posters, hastily-scrawled notes, legal treatises and arcane insignias. The room looked like the study of a hoarder gone mad. And between all the papers, portraits and trinkets, a thousand gleaming silk threads criss-crossed the room, connecting seemingly incongruous items together into the most maddeningly elaborate and intricate web that London had ever seen.

This was the core of Six’s information business, and the most powerful tool in Six’s arsenal as a private detective. Every fact, every rumor that Six had ever been exposed to was recorded here, in the language of Six’s mind. The Web Of London’s Secrets connected the Widow to the Duchess, Hell to St. Dunstain’s, the urchins to the wild winds of the Neath, and nearly everything back to the Masters and the Bazaar.

Six removed their gloves and ran a long finger gently across the silken strands. The Web hummed with possibilities. Six followed the vibrations of the Web to their farthest extents. The Web was beautiful, intricate, and over the years, slowly developing into something profound, and perhaps one day, perfect.

Except for one corner, where a bunched-up pile of silk had been thrown into a heap with some broken mourning candles and a piece of paper with only a single word inscribed on it: “NAME?” Six shuddered: excising that part of the web was the smartest thing that they had ever done.

And the other corner, where a preponderance of strands grew like a tumor around the photo of a gimlet-eyed man, pinned to the wall with a dagger that was plunged hilt-deep into his right eye.

Six sighed, within days of the incident at Mnemosyne’s with the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor, the Web had already started to warp. Six had tried to put that horrible case behind them, but the more they tried, the more the web-tumor around the dagger grew. Now that tumor connected the dagger to the locket of the Withered Vagabond, to a heavily-sealed jar of cantigaster venom, and to an empty jar of formaldehyde placed strategically below the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor’s picture.

The young detective fought back tears. Six was not a violent person….not formerly a violent person. Six hated the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor, almost as much as they hated what they had become because of him. Six hated the tumor in the Web; the weaponization of the Web. In the weeks since the Mnemosyne case, Six had added whatever secrets they could find that might lead to the fall of the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor. But as those secrets dried up, Six found themselves adding whatever secrets they could find that might lead to the death of the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor.

Six closed their eyes and turned away. No! This was premeditated murder! Six had spent years putting away monsters who planned things like this, and now they were becoming one.

Perhaps they should excise that part of the web too? Before it was too late?

Six plucked a silk thread, sending tremors through the Web.

Tremors through the locket of the Withered Vagabond.

Who else would save her? Who else would save them all? Six knew it was already too late.

Tremors through the jar of cantigaster venom.

Tremors through the dagger embedded in the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor’s face.

This would demand a sacrifice from Six, just like the Name did. Only this time Six knew they would pay the price, no matter how high.

Tremors through several small slips of paper pinned to one wall, containing the names of those exceptional and capable Londoners who hated the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor as much as Six did.

Was this the kind of manic intensity that led to the Honey-Addled Detective’s fall? Not sure: there are too many missing threads to answer that one.

If Six could only pluck the right strand, it would send tremors through the Web…tremors big enough to knock down buildings.

Six tentatively plucked another thread, and a copy of Moby Dick teetered and fell off a bookcase clear across the room. Unintended consequences: Six’s worst fear.

A quote from that surface book came back to them: “He piled upon the whale’s white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart’s shell upon it.&quot

Tremors, appropriately enough, though Moby Dick.

Six shuddered. Would they even have a heart left once the deed was done?

Tremors though Six.

Selfish! Why would it matter? So long as the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor was dead. So long the Withered Vagabond was safe. So long as the red honey didn’t flow. Why did it matter what happened to one lone detective?

Tremors though London.

They had given their life over to this path years ago.

Six plucked the strand again and watched the names of those extraordinary Londoners vibrate with potential. Despite all of their efforts, the Web never produced a viable plan to kill the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor, but it did provide Six with names. Names of all the wonderful Londoners who could help Six complete this vile but necessary deed.

Six watched the dagger embedded in the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor vibrate. And below his picture, the empty jar of formaldehyde shook. The jar where…once the invitations were sent out, once the team was assembled, once the plans were made, once those extraordinary Londoners had set out, once the deed was one, once Six was sure that Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor could never hurt anyone again, once Mnemosyne’s was nothing but warm ashes, and once Six had left the biggest crater in the Red Honey trade that they could manage…that was the jar where Six would keep the Gimlet-Eyed Proprietor’s eyes.

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Lke Six, I need the help of the more experienced roleplayers in this forum to make this story a reality. I have never run a group RP or collaborative fiction before, and I could use the help and skill of whatever experienced players are interested.

And I know that people’s RP schedules are currently pretty hectic right now, so I’m happy to put this off until we have the time to do it right.

And then, once we are ready, lets set things right. One way or another.

Who’s with me?
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Oh, wow. It would probably be biting off more than I could chew too, considering that I just joined a group RP and I have a lot of other commitments. But Hieronymus Drake really hates Red Honey, and in his own canon he spends a lot of time pursuing its traffickers. With rather less compunction about what he does when he finds them.

That’s an impressive opener, I have to say. And regarding the ES in question…the frustration borne out of the inability to take action that lie outside of the limits of what the game presents you with is all too real.

If others are interested, I’m interested. Have done collaborative storytelling experiences in the past, though the only one on here fell through after a while, and since Hotshot wasted all his time on hunting a monster rather than seeking vengeance his experiences with Red Honey have been both limited and highly distressing.

I am very interested, but very wary of biting off more than I can chew. I have a backlog of social actions on game and in a group RP. But man Caroline wants to.

Amsfield could only serve as an adversary in this, but Maiser was in an in game RP fighting honey traders, but there partner seems to have disappeared off their contacts page whilst I was too busy over Christmas to RP, so they currently have a smuggler’s blood on their hands and no one to report about it to or idea how to continue the fight, so they’d be interested despite having no experience with Mnemosyne’s personally.

So the good news is that I think we have enough interested people to put together a really good group for the Red Honey RP (working title). I counted at least 6 positive responses between my PMs and this thread in the last half day. And while some will likely drop out, I also think it’s safe to assume that more people would join once the ball got really rolling.

Which leads us to the bad news: most people who responded are already committed to other group RPs. And since I wouldn’t want to over-commit people or step on the toes of other RP groups, it means that this group RP probably won’t officially start until those other RP groups wrap up and people are free again.

Never fear though, as I am hoping to use this delay to my advantage. Any story that is attacking the red honey trade has the potential to be epic: the business of red honey stretches far beyond Mnemosyne’s to Hell, the Masters, the Palace, and significant portions of the criminal underworld. And a story that huge will need to be planned out thoroughly. So it sounds like we will have plenty of time with the delay to thoroughly set the stage before the players are ready.

So to start, let’s have everyone who wants to participate in the Red Honey RP, now or in the future when you are free, please reply to this thread. Especially reply if you don’t have time right now, as we will not be starting until most people are free. I just want to get a sense of the pool of talent that is interested in this story.

If you could, please tell me:

  • The name of the character who will be playing, and what their general role in the story will be (protagonist/antagonist)[/li][li]Your Fallen London group RP experience (especially if you have experience that will help this game become successful)[/li][li]How you want to contribute to the Red Honey RP group (as a player? as a planner?)[/li][li]Your current FL group RP commitments (ex. are you in In Red, Underlined or Tale of Two Suns, etc.)[/li][li]A wild guess at your future availability (how many weeks / months until free to join, you won’t be held to your guess!)[/li][li]How much time you can commit to this story (ex. an hour a week)[/li][li]Any suggestions on how we should structure/run this group so that the Red Honey RP will be successful. (ex. What worked best for you? What about Google Docs? Any advice for first-time collaborative writers? Any lessons learned from past group RPs? How do you keep things from petering out? And thank you again for the help!!!)

And as the one who started all this, I am happy to start us off:[li]
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[ul][li]Character Name / Role:
The Six Handed Merchant - (player, protagonist, organizer/instigator of the plot if needed)[/li][li]FL Group RP Experience:
None. But I make up for my inexperience with good intentions! ;)[/li][li]How You Want to Contribute:
As a player, organizer, GM, or whatever else is needed.[/li][li]Current FL Group RP Commitments:
None (currently running a few private RP scenes with individual players)[/li][li]Guess At Future Availability?
Available.[/li][li]Time You Can Give to Red Honey RP:
1-2 hours a week.[/li][li]Any Advice?
I’ve been a GM for tabletops, freeform games, and live-action roleplaying games over the years, but none of them I would consider wildly successful. And I have never done forum RP or collaborative fiction before. So any advice on how to run this would be greatly appreciated!![/li][/ul]

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Well, when you put it that way…

[ul][li]Character Name / Role: Hieronymus Drake, protagonist[/li][li]FL Group RP Experience: I’ve written FL stories with input from as many as five PCs, but never in this format[/li][li]How You Want to Contribute: Player, although I don’t mind doing some planning too[/li][li]Current FL Group RP Commitments :I’m in In Red, Underlined as Telemachia Lee[/li][li]Guess At Future Availability: It will probably be a couple of months until my schedule becomes sane[/li][li]Time You Can Give to Red Honey RP: An hour or two a week I could probably do now. More later.[/li][li]Advice: My main suggestion is that the GM needs to provide structure and direction and keep things moving. If you give players a task, they’ll usually do it. Or do something else in an entertaining fashion. But if you let people overthink things and be indecisive, they (we) will.
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[ul][li]Character Name / Role:
Hotshot Blackburn - player character. Protagonist, assuming an ensemble cast. [/li][li]FL Group RP Experience:
I’ve GMed one group RP on these forums, though it fizzled out just before Fruits of the Zee 2017 much to my regret. I’ve both GMed and played on other forums in the past, some successful and others not as much. [/li][li]How You Want to Contribute:
Player and planner for sure: I think both come with each other really in these types of situations. Although I would not want to GM the whole thing, I wouldn’t be against GMing a section where I wouldn’t/couldnt be involved as a player.[/li][li]Current FL Group RP Commitments:
N/A, I’m free![/li][li]Guess At Future Availability?
I will have very limited availability for the two weeks after this one due to a cross-country roadtrip/Disneyworld experience. Not to say I won’t be available at all, but not for extended real-time discussion. [/li][li]Time You Can Give to Red Honey RP:
I’ll stick with 1-2 hours as a starting guess for now, certainly more after I come back from vacation. [/li][li]Any Advice?
Based on past experience…a lot of important points have been hit. I recommend google docs over offtopic threads for planning/offtopic things as they can be easier to read and edit over forum posts. If there are multiple GMs (for different sections) and planners, discord/skype/IRC/another form of real-time-texting is very useful to have for developing and shaping ideas. Finally (and this is best done once the group can have a common space to work things out), logistics is key to whether these kinds of RPs work or fizzle. Should all players respond before the GM updates? What happens when two players want to have an extended interaction with each other? What is the minimum response time expected?..and so forth. Ground rules always handy.[/li][/ul]

So I had the opportunity to chat some of the GMs and player in the Argo group, and they were super helpful! I now have some good ideas for the next step in setting up this RP:

Over the next few weeks, I will be putting together a skeleton document on Google Docks for the Red Honey RP (name pending). Once it is ready, I will open the document up for editing and post the link here.

Once the document is up, feel free to add your thoughts and comments to anything in the document. There is no deadline for adding ideas (ince most of our player base is too busy to start at the moment anyway), but I will be keeping an eye on it, and we can see what we end up with in a month or so (depending on how the document grows).

Also for the time being, I will keep posting announcements for the Red Honey RP here as things develop. So stay tuned!

And thank you all for your interest and support! I feel really good about this! :)

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  • Character Name / Role: Addis Rook (Protagonist, Leader and Founder of an organization simply known as ‘Rosmarinus’ to those whom they save.)[/li][li]FL Group RP Experience: I don’t have much experience RPing, so please bare with me![/li][li]How You Want to Contribute: Player, though I wouldn’t mind helping in some way with planning.[/li][li]Current FL Group RP Commitments: None[/li][li]Guess At Future Availability: Ready to go[/li][li]Time You Can Give to Red Honey RP: 2-3 hours a week, perhaps

Good news! So here is the planning document for the Red Honey Wars RP (name still pending):


Red Honey Wars RP - Reference Doc - Google Docs

Feel free to add your character, ideas, thoughts and questions to the document. Just be sure to pick a distinctive color for your text and write your FL Name in that color at the top. Also feel free to add new sections, comments, or anything else that you find useful.

My plan now is to leave this document up for a month starting today. We can then move on the ideas that get posted in this document in one month’s time. Also feel free to discuss things here until we have an official OOC thread for the RP.

I already added some of my own notes, and I will be monitoring this document regularly and replying to questions and the lke.

I can’t wait to see your ideas! :-)

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Character Name / Role:
Ixc-protagonist
Wintergreen-antagonist
FL Group RP Experience:
This is my first.
How You Want to Contribute:
Player and planner.
Current FL Group RP Commitments:
Free!
Guess At Future Availability?
I’ll be more available in the future.
Time You Can Give to Red Honey RP:
1-2 hours, possibly more
edited by Ixc on 2/1/2018