Undecided: Sell Me On Your Candidate

Fallen London
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Feducci promises the chain can be climbed and we can be free of restrictions.
This sounds like Liberation of Night talk to me.

The Implacable Detective promises a firmer hand with the law? I’ve got a Clay arm and an &quotEnhancement,&quot so strict adherence to Law clearly isn’t for me, either. Besides, too much talk of Law leads me to think there are New Sequencers involved.

And I don’t know if the Neath’s greatest Hedonist can support…ugh…temperance. Even if it does seem the centrist choice. Jenny, at least, allowed me the sin-trist choice.

So I am undecided. For now. But I’m likely to be a full throated, level 20 supporter with 15 Notability for whomever I choose.
Sell me on your candidate and I’ll throw my full support behind them.

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Climbing the chain goes very much counter to LoN rhetoric, as far as I know. A big part of the LoN philosophy is that the chain imprisons all, the high and the low, and that’s why it mustn’t be climbed but destroyed.

Because living as some weird blind worm-things in a pile of mushrooms sounds sooo great. Uhh.

But to get back to point, I don’t think Feducci is pro-Liberation, but rather pro-ascension, pro-red science. Pro storming Nidah, maybe? In any case, he sounds like the first candidate from either election who might do some long term good. While everyone else spends their time fiddling with marginally improving the conditions of the poor and raising alcohol taxes, the Vats grow hungry and soon everyone those do-gooders tried to protect will be gone anyway. What might stand the test of time are bold initiatives by the exceptional! Colonize Aestival, storm Nidah, open the Gate! Rush for the new frontiers, and let those who won’t seize the opportunity be devoured by the results of their own inaction!

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The Campaigner and the Detective are running on the usual &quotI-want-to-improve-London-for-everyone-really-I-care-so-deeply-for-each-and-all-of-you&quot platforms and who still believes that kind of tosh anyway?

Feducci is the &quotchange-for-change’s-sake&quot candidate.
Feducci is the &quotstick-it-to-The-Man&quot (or maybe in this case &quotstick-it-to-The-Bat&quot) candidate.
Feducci is the &quotI-don’t-really-care-what-is-this-election-thing-anyway-let’s-have-another-beer&quot candidate.

If that doesn’t convince you you’re probably some kind of upper-class snob anyway.

#VoteFeducci - and find out how much worse it can get!
edited by phryne on 6/23/2017

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Feducci is also most likely going to sell us out to Snuffers and Presbyters. So there’s that.

5

The Campaigner has tea. I don’t believe the other candidates have promised beverages to London.

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Feducci for freedom to do what you want? How much could it hurt, really? Doesn’t he already do whatever he wants? And don’t we already do what we want? Seems like the least intrusive choice for anyone who’s content with present levels of crime and inebriation.

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Personally I think they’ll all be awful. I could sort of see Feducci and maybe the Temperance one giving out docks favors on their cards, so I’d suggest those over the Detective (who will only support people like Mr Fires).

8

I miss the bishop, or even Jenny. As it stands we have a full out spy for the Presbyterians, a temperance movement which can be good or super bad, and the Detective who I like for the law and order bit, but isn’t very inspiring.

9

Feducci.

cheering

Other candidates

booing, maybe hissing too

10

Given three imperfect candidates, the correct decision is to Seek Mr Eaten’s Name. Who needs a mayor if we’re all floating around in the Avid Horizon?

11

I agree. So why not stick with our current mayor, who’s done an admirable job. I will be casting a write-in vote for Jenny and suggest you do the same.

12

Surely the most Hedonistic Man in London in All of Fallen London would revel in the even greater notoriety he would accrue if the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner were to be mayor.

13

To be honest, I’m leaning toward Feducci myself, but allow me to argue for Mme Campaigner for my sophistry training.
EDIT: In the end, I choose to side with the Detective. More on my reasoning below.

[spoiler]I think all candidates have their own merits, scandals, and weaknesses, but what really convinced me to throw my lot with the Detective is the fact that one of the most popular argument against her is that they couldn’t trust the constables. Clearly, the constabulary is in severe need of reform; as she has placed that on top of her agenda, I think electing her is the best chance to accomplish this goal.

Not to say that the others’ campaign promises aren’t worthy, but it feels especially sad to me that the citizens of London cannot trust their supposed protectors. I know, I know, some of you may say, &quotBut they aren’t really supposed to be the citizens’ protectors, they’re made too be the tool of the authorities from the start.&quot Well, then this might be the time to change that, isn’t it?[/spoiler]

You seem to be an unrepentant hedonist with immense drive and capabilities, just like many of us are. Therefore, you should vote for the temperance movement!

Wait, hold on, I could hear you say. Wouldn’t that be counter to my debauched inclinations?

As a matter of fact, it wouldn’t! You are a man/woman/??? of many resources and connections. What could a newly elected mayor do against you? Absolutely nothing! I assure you that you would find a way to circumvent whatever edicts of sobriety the Campaigner would impose. You just have to find more discreet means for your pursuit of pleasures - which, let’s be honest, you probably have already discovered and employed to avoid certain &quotvacation&quot trips to the Tomb Colonies.

London’s seedy underbelly would survive any moralistic legislation imposed upon it, too. In fact, it’d thrive from it! Under the pressure of Law, the darker elements of the city would band together and organize themselves. You, Important Person, could only profit from this! Do you salivate at the thoughts of cold, hard cash from honey-running operations? Do you dream of commanding an army of disciplined miscreants of your own - the size of which would put any gang of hoodlums into shame? Are you looking for a chance to stick it to the Man… or whatever the Masters are?

Organized crime!

Organized crime is your chance to go beyond what’s currently possible. None of the other candidates can create this condition. Now is your chance to create and ride this wave, Sir/Madam/Whatever-you-are. A vote for the Campaigner is a vote for more debauchery! It’s just moved (even further) underground!
edited by Dungerson on 6/24/2017
edited by Dungerson on 6/27/2017
edited by Dungerson on 6/27/2017

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Feducci is callus towards others (though it always makes me chuckle to see others support him because they know he’s dangerous), the Detective may be a bit too legal for your tastes, and the Campaigner is almost certainly not on your Christmas card list. Honestly, I can see why you’d want to leave your vote up on a vote.

Though, if I recall, you’re already borderline-immortal with your cider, so there’s less to be desired from Feducci’s ascension promises (that is, if he even plans to share in the benefits). And if my United States history is up to snuff, temperance led to all sorts of trouble for persistent drinkers. Scarcity, additional dangers like toxicity and the law, and underhanded tricks from empowered criminals and quacks selling their alcohol-based remedies as medicinal cures. As for the Detective, we may get to see some fun mayhem from what she intends to do with the law. Will she double down on the underworld of London in an all-out brawl for the heart of the city? Will she go rogue on her followers to carry the corrupt coppers and upper class to task in an upheaval of social norms in the name of justice? Maybe she’ll even use her power to follow up on crimes from those above on the Chain! Either way, her end results are to be quite exciting while still proving safe enough that they won’t destroy London or her pleasures.

However, if it turns out she’s secretly planning on personally feeding us to the Dawn Machine (which I highly doubt, since there are multiple variants and interpretations of law in this game), then feel free to burn this post and throw your hat into the Campaigner’s corner. Out of the two other candidates, at least she’s the least likely to kill anyone.

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[quote=Dungerson]London’s seedy underbelly would survive any moralistic legislation imposed upon it, too. In fact, it’d thrive from it! Under the pressure of Law, the darker elements of the city would band together and organize themselves. You, Important Person, could only profit from this! Do you salivate at the thoughts of cold, hard cash from honey-running operations? Do you dream of commanding an army of disciplined miscreants of your own - the size of which would put any gang of hoodlums into shame? Are you looking for a chance to stick it to the Man… or whatever the Masters are?
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Organized crime![/quote]

That’s Prohibition, not Temperance. Legal prohibition is forbidding all manufacture and sale of intoxicating liquors. Legal temperance involves either restricting the location, number and hours of establishments which sell intoxicating liquors (bars being closed on Sunday for example) or placing excise and consumption taxes on alcohol with the aim of discouraging consumers. Please stop conflating prohibition and temperance, they’re very different. Prohibition forbids, temperance merely discourages :P
edited by Anne Auclair on 6/24/2017

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[quote=Anne Auclair][quote=Dungerson]London’s seedy underbelly would survive any moralistic legislation imposed upon it, too. In fact, it’d thrive from it! Under the pressure of Law, the darker elements of the city would band together and organize themselves. You, Important Person, could only profit from this! Do you salivate at the thoughts of cold, hard cash from honey-running operations? Do you dream of commanding an army of disciplined miscreants of your own - the size of which would put any gang of hoodlums into shame? Are you looking for a chance to stick it to the Man… or whatever the Masters are?
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Organized crime![/quote]

That’s Prohibition, not Temperance. Legal prohibition is forbidding all manufacture and sale of intoxicating liquors. Legal temperance involves either restricting the location, number and hours of establishments which sell intoxicating liquors (bars being closed on Sunday for example) or placing excise and consumption taxes on alcohol with the aim of discouraging consumers. Please stop conflating prohibition and temperance, they’re very different. Prohibition forbids, temperance merely discourages.
edited by Anne Auclair on 6/24/2017[/quote]
I meant by &quotled&quot that the initial movement for temperance influenced the oncoming set of prohibition and led to a bigger support for it among some of its followers, though I should have chosen my words more carefully, so you have a fair point. All the same, it sounds as though either case would come into issue with Nigel’s hedonistic tendencies. Even if it’s merely discouraged, that might become a blemish on an otherwise indulgent track record and make the fulfillment of such pleasures even harder. As someone who’s keeping the Campaigner in their back pocket should the Detective unfurl Dawn-colored flags out of nowhere, I’d still recommend the Detective first and the Campaigner as second should a bit of law not sate your tastes, Mr. Overstreet.
edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/24/2017

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(Every year during the mayor election I can see someone go North. Safely assume that beyond the Horizon there lies Canada.
Mystery Solved 1/1)

Back to the point, I’m leaning towards the Campaigner. If you think all candidates are awful for you, maybe it’s better to choose someone who can’t make an entire difference in one year. One year is pretty enough for selling information, maybe enough for further enforcement of laws, but for wines, honey and all drinkables, a Master of the Bazaar has his business. If the Campaigner become our mayor, I think it is very likely there will be a compromise.

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There is only one real choice for the hedonistic of this city.

And that is to flip a coin and hope for the best.

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I’m undecided as well.

My thoughts so far

Feducci - I’m interested in the Presbyrate and would really like to know what his standing with them is. When given a choice I take the dangerous options. Quite likely to back him.

Implacable Detective - I’m a member of the Velocipede Squad and have thumped wrong doers. Also very interested in knowing more about the Dilmun Club. Another one I might back.

Dauntless Temperance Campaigner - I don’t like tea :) But if her campaign allows rights for the oppressed and against cruelty I might be swayed.

So it might come down to waiting until I know what item I can get from supporting them or hearing more about their campaigns.

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Vote campaigner-

try to make London a slightly less cruddy place,
fail miserably,
have some tea.