[quote=Pralaya]
Let’s say I decide to use only 80 of the confessions in either option 1 or 2. What happens to the remaining 20 confessions? Do they go waste or can I use it next year?[/quote]
Unknown as far as I know. It’s possible they disappear but I am unaware of a confirmation either way.
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Talking of the next year, there are two options again
Retrieve and sell
Devour
Which confessions can I retrieve and which can I devour? Are these the 20 confessions that was left out this year?[/quote]
No it’s the 80 confessions you consigned or buried. When you consign or bury them the corresponding trust quality gets set to 2. Retrieve-and-sell and Devour only works on those confessions that have Trust 2.
The ones that can be retrieved OR devoured are the confessions that you either consigned or buried the year before. In other words, you must bury or consign a confession to be able to do those last two options a year later.
If you just hang onto a confession and don’t do anything with it, you can presumably do any of the first four actions with it next year (I don’t think there’s any event that resets confessions) but that won’t be any different than if you did one of those actions right now – exact same thing, delayed by a year. So unless you like having some mementos in your Story Qualities list, there’s no real reason to wait.
Just think of it this way: if you keep the secrets this year (the consign/bury options only differ slightly in terms of rewards), then Hallowmas you will be able to choose whether to keep/betray those same secrets. If you betray the secrets this year, then you lose that opportunity.
I’m fairly sure, too, that betrayal cuts you off from social actions with those you betrayed next Hallowmas; at least, the people who I remember betraying me didn’t show up on my invite list this year. edited by Lady Red on 11/5/2015
[quote=Lady Red]Just think of it this way: if you keep the secrets this year (the consign/bury options only differ slightly in terms of rewards), then Hallowmas you will be able to choose whether to keep/betray those same secrets. If you betray the secrets this year, then you lose that opportunity.
I’m fairly sure, too, that betrayal cuts you off from social actions with those you betrayed next Hallowmas; at least, the people who I remember betraying me didn’t show up on my invite list this year.[/quote]I can confirm all this as true.
I, frankly, don’t mind if people betray my secrets, but they are giving up potentially 8 points of SoH total for a couple of Echoes, so it’s really their loss.
In your "Myself" tab, under Story you’ll find two special expandable/collapsible qualities: Trust (the characters you trust) and Exposed By (the characters who have betrayed your trust). If you expand these you’ll see a list of characters, each with a quality level next to them (e.g. Bob (1), Eve (2), etc. ).
Here’s how it works (to the best of my understanding):
Suppose that Alice sends Bob a request for a confession (she can only send such a request if he doesn’t trust her yet (no Alice listed under Trust for Bob’s character) and she hasn’t betrayed him yet (no Alice listed under Bob’s Exposed By quality).
If Bob accepts the confession request (i.e. confesses to Alice), then his character now has the quality of Trust: Alice (1). Alice gains 1 x confession. (Alice can’t send another request to Bob, since she’s listed in his Trust quality).
Later in the holiday, Alice can decide what to do with Bob’s confession:
If Alice chooses consign or bury, then this confirm’s Bob’s trust in her, and his character’s Trust quality will show Alice (2).[/li][li]If Alice chooses betray or flaunt, this means she’s betrayed Bob’s trust. Bob’s Trust quality won’t show Alice anymore and his Exposed By quality will include Alice (1).
If Alice chose consign/bury (i.e. if Bob has Trust: Alice (2)), then next year Alice has another chance to reaffirm that trust or betray it:
If Alice chooses to devour the confession, Bob’s Trust quality will now show Alice (3).[/li][li]If Alice sells the confession after all, she’ll be removed from Bob’s Trust quality list, and she’ll be listed under his Exposed By quality.
[quote=Lady Red]I’m fairly sure, too, that betrayal cuts you off from social actions with those you betrayed next Hallowmas; at least, the people who I remember betraying me didn’t show up on my invite list this year. edited by Lady Red on 11/5/2015[/quote]
Did people who didn’t betray you show up on your invite list? I thought that each player could only confess to any other player once, ever – due to Trust getting set to higher than 0, as dov just explained.
When you send a confession request, the requirement is that the recipient “doesn’t have trust(them) and doesn’t have exposed by(them)” (where “them” is the sender of the action, i.e. you). So even betraying their trust prevents you from confessing them again, any year.
There’s nothing about the other direction, though. If they betrayed your trust, that doesn’t prevent you from sending them a confession request. That can only be prevented if a) they don’t have the menaces, or ii) they already accepted your confession invite in any prior year.
(and you can only devour/sell confessions from past years, and only if you didn’t betray them).
I’ve hit 500 SoH (well, once I cash it all in), but am hoping for 9 of my remaining outstanding 30 confession invites to respond so I can get a round 100. Still time!
Wait a second, can anyone please confirm that you can’t accept new confessions next hallowmas from the people you’ve betrayed this year? That seems very harsh.
So basically if you’ve betrayed everyone this hallowmas you will have a really tough time getting confessions and spirit next year?
…not that I would do such a thing! edited by Danko on 11/6/2015
[quote=Danko]Wait a second, can anyone please confirm that you can’t accept new confessions next hallowmas from the people you’ve betrayed this year? That seems very harsh.
So basically if you’ve betrayed everyone this hallowmas you will have a really tough time getting confessions and spirit next year?
…not that I would do such a thing! edited by Danko on 11/6/2015[/quote]
Yeah, betrayal is forever. Trust is forever also, but it pays twice. But in any case I wouldn’t worry too much about next year. I’ve been steadily confessing to almost 200 people a year for the past two years and I still confessed like 340ish new players this year. Just wait a year and I’m sure you’ll be surprised at how many new delicious friends you see asking around for confessions. edited by NiteBrite on 11/6/2015
It has no impact on our confessors if we switch from “Consign a friend’s Confession” to “Bury a secret,” right? Because I hit 500 and I’m not going to get much further–and Scraps!
Its totally fine to buy secrets, it doesn’t decrease their waves. And since burying gives trust 2 you can devour the trust 2 next year for the +6 spirit. Only betraying to the masters or society prevents this from happening.
I buried a lot of confessions last year myself, as I wanted scraps for an item I needed to purchase a 5 card lodgings (which I couldn’t otherwise get at christmas due to my stained seeker soul). So bury away, its perfectly harmless :) edited by NiteBrite on 11/6/2015
I am trying to consign all confessions made to me, but the options lock, as if I have no confessions, when I know there is always one there. When I hear the next confession and try to consign it, there are two confessions to choose from. I choose one and then the option is ‘locked’ again. This is not a POSI thing as I am consigning confessions in the order they were made. My options seem to like keeping one in the barrel, as it were. Is anyone else experiencing this? I have had a different glitch this week, (which I reported, poor elves must be very busy though) so it would be handy to know if I should report this too.
Thank you NiteBrite and everyone else who organized us this Hallowmas. I think your work has wrought more than you know. I doubt the level of participation would have been anywhere near as high without all of your efforts; and with so many new connections having been made the fun shall no doubt continue, as people have found new friends to RP, or simply be social, with. Applause from this quarter.[li]
My dropdown shows no one, for Consigning Confessions, but I still have Confessions 5 as a quality. Not sure who the other five people are who I can’t do anything with right now.
Wait… wow. Ok. I found those 5 confessions… I can Bury them and Flaunt them, but I cannot Gossip or Consign. Anyone know why that might be?
[quote=MadmanAtW]My dropdown shows no one, for Consigning Confessions, but I still have Confessions 5 as a quality. Not sure who the other five people are who I can’t do anything with right now.
Wait… wow. Ok. I found those 5 confessions… I can Bury them and Flaunt them, but I cannot Gossip or Consign. Anyone know why that might be?[/quote]
[quote=MadmanAtW]My dropdown shows no one, for Consigning Confessions, but I still have Confessions 5 as a quality. Not sure who the other five people are who I can’t do anything with right now.
Wait… wow. Ok. I found those 5 confessions… I can Bury them and Flaunt them, but I cannot Gossip or Consign. Anyone know why that might be?[/quote]
I don’t know if this is new, but non-POSI confessions can only be buried or flaunted. they haven’t done anything the bazaar cares to know, and the same is true for a master’s connection.
Now, however, I have the opposite problem. My alt, Xoricco, has 1xConfessions but 2 people in the dropdown to choose from. Once she chooses one of them, she’s locked out of the storylet and can’t choose the other. Anything obviously going on here before I bother support? :)