Even the normal, everyday citizens of the Elder Continent are rightfully quick to turn on the corrupt government.
"When the people of the Elder Continent learn that their Presbyters don’t die when they live to a thousand, but instead retire to the College of Mortality to advise the next ruler, they are incensed. The movement spreads slowly, the Mithridate Office - the Prester’s own misinformers - working hard to stamp it out."
Feducci is one of the Presbyter’s right hand men. Do we really want a lackey of a corrupt system like that to have power in his own right, in London’s government?
He does seem to be actively sponsoring the hunting of some of them.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/7099710/EventConclusion?contentKey=13494
[quote=Terrier]He does seem to be actively sponsoring the hunting of some of them.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/7099710/EventConclusion?contentKey=13494[/quote]
That puts quite the damper on my endorsement. I know a few delightful snuffers.
[quote=LillianAranach][quote=Terrier]He does seem to be actively sponsoring the hunting of some of them.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/7099710/EventConclusion?contentKey=13494[/quote]
That puts quite the damper on my endorsement. I know a few delightful snuffers.[/quote]
Care for a tea cosy? ;)
Not quite yet, darling :P
[quote=Terrier]
Feducci is one of the Presbyter’s right hand men. Do we really want a lackey of a corrupt system like that to have power in his own right, in London’s government?[/quote]
Oh most definitely, I’m quite excited actually. Though by that logic both the DTC and the Implacable Detective are ‘lackeys of a corrupt system’ as well, as there are few, if any, governments more corrupt than London’s. If anything Feducci is the only one of the candidates whose allegiances might shake the power balance.
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edited by Akernis on 6/28/2017
[quote=Akernis][quote=Terrier]
Feducci is one of the Presbyter’s right hand men. Do we really want a lackey of a corrupt system like that to have power in his own right, in London’s government?[/quote]
Oh most definitely, I’m quite excited actually. Though by that logic both the DTC and the Implacable Detective are ‘lackeys of a corrupt system’ as well, as there are few, if any, governments more corrupt than London’s. If anything Feducci is the only one of the candidates whose allegiances might shake the power balance.
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edited by Akernis on 6/28/2017[/quote]
"Might be a corrupt system they’re lackeys of," the Mirthless Colonist mutters as he chews his tabacco, "But at least it’s our corrupt system."
It’s just a very, very bad idea to put someone who’s chief concern isn’t the government they serve in a position of power. If the Presbyters want a stake, let them set up an embassy or somesuch, but unless your loyalties lie with the Presbyters themselves, there’s no real way to justify giving power to someone who’s first concern isn’t using the power in the way he’s supposed to.
Sorry if this has been answered in this thread, but: people keep going on about Feducci being loyal to the Presbyterate. Do we actually have anything to support this? He was born and raised there, yes, and spent some time as quite the celebrity, but I don’t remember any indication of current loyalty towards any faction besides Hell. I remind that “He’s called Presbyter’s dog” is from the same source of information as “He’s a prince of the Tomb Colonies.”
"The Presbyter’s agent in London"
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/434443/EventConclusion?contentKey=15023
[quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
It’s just a very, very bad idea to put someone who’s chief concern isn’t the government they serve in a position of power.[/quote]
I think it’s a smashing idea. Anything that makes FL more interesting is a good idea as far as I’m concerned. The other two candidates are colourless and dull by comparison. And annoyingly bossy with it.
There’s a solid source from the Ambition: Nemesis storyline where an ex-presbyterate Tomb-Colonist outright calls him the "Presbyter’s agent in London". I’ve got the snippet set up in the DTC Google doc through my signature, you can read it there in the "Feducci Infodump" section.
[quote=Akernis][quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
"Might be a corrupt system they’re lackeys of," the Mirthless Colonist mutters as he chews his tabacco, "But at least it’s our corrupt system."
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I do applaud honest patriotism from people open-minded enough to realise the hypocrisy.
[quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
It’s just a very, very bad idea to put someone who’s chief concern isn’t the government they serve in a position of power. If the Presbyters want a stake, let them set up an embassy or somesuch, but unless your loyalties lie with the Presbyters themselves, there’s no real way to justify giving power to someone who’s first concern isn’t using the power in the way he’s supposed to.[/quote]
In reality? Of course. In Fallen London? Not so much.
I am not sure saying that there is no way to justify having someone in power who does not serve our own government when the alternative is our own leaders who are:
A) - A queen who sold us into quasi-slavery to monstrous space bats to save her own husband.
B) - An utterly ineffectual parliament who serves solely under the thumb of said space bats.
C) - Said space bats who want to exploit us and when they are done with us drown and liquefy us in gigantic vats of liquid grief and sorrow to satisfy a heartbroken entity who couldn’t care less if millions of people got disintegrated as long as its own sorrows are temporarily lessened.
Having someone with an alternative agenda in charge (even for a little while) might well be step in the right direction. I for one thinks it would be interesting to have more people trying to climb the Chain rather than simply being a mere pawn of the Masters’ whims.
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Thanks c:
You’re right on that part, but on the other hand the masters aren’t really that much of a concern to most of the player characters in the first place, seeing as a lot of destinies involve immortality, vast amounts of power, the LoN, or becoming a master yourself.
Being a pawn is just not knowledge most of the people in Fallen London have, we as players have the benefit of having a mostly objective overview that lets us see everything for what it is. But for your average coalman or urchin, the Masters are just big spooky cloaked traders with power, the Bazaar is a big scary building, and the rubberies are freaky natives of the Neath. It’s kind of hard to limit how much you metagame in these scenarios, especially because your PC could effectively be a demigod with more fingers in more pies than Feducci himself has. But I think it’d be more, ah, ‘genuine’ if everyone were to actually pick the supporter they’d in real life back.
This would of course cause a very big schism because almost no one would consider backing Feducci, but I’d consider it a very unique and exciting opportunity to be able to debate someone who genuinely holds the view that life is one big game of blackjack.
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You bring up a good point concerning who you’d back in a “real” election. However I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out how radically DIFFERENT life in the Neath is from “real-life” experience. Sure, there is still a class divide, and tense social issues, and pressure from foreign powers. But Death itself is a possibility, not a certainty. In a real-world situation like that, I might ACTUALLY vote for the blackjack candidate. If it goes wrong, I (and potentially anyone living in the Neath) have literal eternity to see what happens afterwards and see to it the issues get fixed.
I’m supporting the most interesting candidate, Feducci. He may be a mysterious foreign agent supporting an excessive amount of blood-sport, but at least he isn’t attempting to wallpaper his own version of morality over the marvelous diversity and unique opportunities available beyond the Law of the Judgments.
My alt BD is a rambunctious sort and I think Feducci suits her temperament. Since my main campaigned aggressively last year, this year it’s BD’s turn and she’s an agitator. I do think Feducci would make an entertaining mayor, which is a major consideration for me in deciding my characters’ actions. I also think he’s fairly likelier to win than the Temperance Campaigner, although if I’m proven wrong I would be absolutely delighted.
[quote=The Dark Gentleman]You bring up a good point concerning who you’d back in a "real" election. However I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out how radically DIFFERENT life in the Neath is from "real-life" experience. Sure, there is still a class divide, and tense social issues, and pressure from foreign powers. But Death itself is a possibility, not a certainty. In a real-world situation like that, I might ACTUALLY vote for the blackjack candidate. If it goes wrong, I (and potentially anyone living in the Neath) have literal eternity to see what happens afterwards and see to it the issues get fixed.
I’m supporting the most interesting candidate, Feducci. He may be a mysterious foreign agent supporting an excessive amount of blood-sport, but at least he isn’t attempting to wallpaper his own version of morality over the marvelous diversity and unique opportunities available beyond the Law of the Judgments.[/quote]
Maybe "In real life" is a bad way of saying it.
The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is who I’d vote for if I were a London Citizen, simply because she’s the only one offering things that I’d be willing to take as the snotty, non-physically superior young lad that I am.
Death is always certain; even the judgments die. Sunless Skies title screen roll
The way I see it, this election, he’s the closest we’ll come to Hell ruling over London… so he’s got my vote. Certainly obligations with the Embassy have not forced me to support him, and I’m in no way beholden to my brassy handl… er… good friends.
To all those coming (or those who came already) - probably considering to become campaigner may be a bright idea?
Apart from your Career Level and Notability the cause will benefit from 10 points of Influencing the Elections as well.
As Feducci’s cause looks like most populated (at least so far), that can give us some edge over competitros.
[quote=SirKwint]To all those coming (or those who came already) - probably considering to become campaigner may be a bright idea?
Apart from your Career Level and Notability the cause will benefit from 10 points of Influencing the Elections as well.
As Feducci’s cause looks like most populated (at least so far), that can give us some edge over competitros.[/quote]
I just changed my alt’s career to campaigner. She was having too much trouble finding people to mob.
[quote=SirKwint]To all those coming (or those who came already) - probably considering to become campaigner may be a bright idea?
Apart from your Career Level and Notability the cause will benefit from 10 points of Influencing the Elections as well.
As Feducci’s cause looks like most populated (at least so far), that can give us some edge over competitros.[/quote]
I do wish I’d seen this BEFORE choosing to be a fixer. Oh well, I quite like my pen.
Added to the list of People Who Need a Stern Talking To.
Goodbye.
(1) THE TRUTH ABOUT FEDUCCI
Feducci makes grand promises to bring about a fairer London, but his character and past actions cast grave doubts as to whether he actually believes what he says.
Feducci is a false-Tomb Colonist, an invincible immortal man wrapped in stolen bandages who feigns a limp and a cough. He presents himself in such a way so he can lure people into his private fighting club and slaughter them in a duel to the permanent death. Duels to the death where the reigning champion cannot possibly be harmed, let alone killed, are hardly fair by any definition of the word. And of course Feducci is not content the advantages granted by his invincibility, he also goes to his duels proudly astride a warhorse in order to face opponents who fight on foot.
Feducci has had so many of these dishonest duels and has slaughtered so many unsuspecting opponents that he goes into battle with his arms wrapped in black ribbons:
“If that were not bad enough, his arms are swathed in enough black ribbons to hide his bandages. There are dozens of them: how many of his own society has he killed?”
Each of those ribbons taken from a man or woman who Feducci permanently murdered in an unfair, thoroughly one-sided duel.
(2) When not permanently killing lesser mortals for sport, Feducci serves as the Presbyters Agent in London. Feducci’s clandestine activities are whispered about in the Flit and is regularly seen delivering reports and relics to Presbyter zailors. But the strongest testimony comes from one of his former associates in Venderbight’s Grand Sanatorium, which was uncovered by a gentleman seeking his Nemeses:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/434443/EventConclusion?contentKey=15023
Feducci, in his capacity as the Presbyter’s Agent in London, regularly commissions the murder of London citizens, particularly those whose existence is condemned by Holy Presbyterate Law.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/7099710/EventConclusion?contentKey=13494
As the recent election campaign has established, Feducci is being paid by the Presbyter for these services. These payments are laundered through under-zee commercial transactions. Feducci invests in a speculative venture that a London company is hoping to make with the government controlled Licensed Exchange at Adam’s Way. The Presbyterate government then agrees to and insures that this venture is profitable. There was never any possibility of Feducci losing his investment.
(3) Just as he has clothed himself in an aura of unearned courage, fighting duels that cannot possibly hurt him, Feducci has cultivated a reputation as a winner by repeatedly gambling with loaded dice. And yet this man promises to even the odds in London?
The Presbyter is getting something for all this money – that is obvious. If Feducci becomes Mayor he will be indebted for his success to an unfriendly foreign power that lays claim to territories held by London!
Lastly, Feducci has a terrible record when it comes to the people who put their trust in him. We’ve already documented how he treats his fellow duelists in the Black Ribbon – as pawns and disposable amusements! But this goes back a long way. When he still resided on the Elder Continent, Feducci went on a pilgrimage to the brambled city of Arbour:
“Feducci was a celebrated figure, attended by lovers, well-wishers and flatterers. Many begged to accompany him, and a company of seventy-seven embarked with pennants, wine, and song.
…One by one, Feducci’s companions fell, but he refused to turn back. When he reached the rosebrick gate, he was alone.”
So ask yourself, would a false gambler like Feducci wager on the odds he has given you – that electing a cheater and schemer would somehow make London a fairer place? We both know the answer to that.