[quote=RandomWalker]Well, as a simple baseline, 10 fate will give you 20 actions. 20 actions can convert into echoes at, say 1.8 epa with the Fidgeting Writer grind, so each point of fate is worth a minimum of 3.6 echoes.
From there, the best repeatable fate-locked grind appears to be the Gallery of Serpents, which offers a return, on average, of 5.3 epa, according to the wiki. The ‘correct conditions’ bit refers to getting your expedition supplies in the ideal fashion (tankard, I think), doing the expedition three supplies at a time without any failures, making full use of the potential intervention that is available to you, being happy with selling your reward for the best return, and doing the run enough times that the law of large numbers evens out your reward. Even then, 5.3 sounds a little high.
Without getting too explicit, doing it that way will cap your connected to the docks at 20, demolishes your steadfast, and maximises your assistance to the Revolutionaries. Which might be fine for some people, but got boring fast for me.
It’s a 40-point expedition, though, so that epa lasts a long time - the end reward is variable, between about 150 echoes and 660 echoes, off the top of my head, minus expenses.
So the value of fate varies on your stats, your gear, your playstyle, your tolerance for repetitive grinding, and your tolerance for gambling.
Good luck putting a number on it.[/quote]
hmm… I’d assume the conditions are as follows:
[ul][li]Watchful high enough to manage the 3 supplies action 100% of the time (or second chances for the same reason.)
[/li][li]tankard used for supplies? (well, the actions per supply are actually higher that way, but idk how relevant that is.)[/li][li]certain, non-RNG choices repeated endlessly.[/li][/ul](I’m assuming any non-repeating event isn’t being factored into epa unless there’s a way to make it viable.)
Given those restrictions, getting 40 supplies would be 45.45(repeating) actions, and getting the reward would be 60.45(repeating) actions. (maybe with some more steps i don’t know about if you can list them. included- progressing through the expedition, getting the supplies, getting the main reward.)
The average reward, apparently, is worth about 309.5 echoes more than the pay-in that way. assuming this is the same when the conditions aren’t met.
Were it worthwhile, these conditions met, and the numbers accurate, 7 fate would be worth 212.8 echoes, or 1 fate = 30.45 echoes, if you’re using it just to get items. (or, if you’d normally do fidgeting writer, 200 echoes and 1 fate = 28.67 echoes) of course, if they’re not…
if these conditions are not met, you can instead do 2 expedition supplies. assuming you can always succeed, that’d be 7 more actions, for 4.58 epa- assuming this is a normal expedition, which is a silly assumption. if there’s some airs based worthwhile cash bonus, then that’s worth noting. this is also assuming that you’re lucky enough to never have to bribe the competition off. with these assumptions, the expedition would be between 188.94 echoes more valuable, and 175.45 echoes. (assuming all numbers on wiki are accurate. depending on if you want the best consistent grind, or the best grind assuming average luck.) 1 fate = 25.06~26.99 echoes.
Of course, it’d take 60ish actions to cash in the fate, so if you want cash fast, there’s probably a fairer price for a fate-to-echoes exchange, if they’ve got the funds in liquid form up-front.
For a fast conversion, 1 fate is comparable to 6.21 echoes, for the only 1-action repeatable loop. (unless you know something more effective.)
So a fair price for fate would be between the two.
edited by Grenem on 12/16/2015