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9 hours ago
Topic:
Should someone make some kind of Hellworm Club?

Kylestien
Kylestien
Posts: 763
Well someone needs to make a thread for it now, since I just got one. https://i.imgur.com/4VDYYrd.png

I also think this makes me the third person with worm.
edited by Kylestien on 9/16/2021
11 hours ago
Topic:
The best names for the new outfits

NNNnobody
NNNnobody
Posts: 157
I made an outfit for Mithridacy. I dubbed it my Pants on Fire.
15 hours ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

PJ
PJ
Posts: 612
Go in there trying to grind portfolios of souls; you'll suddenly find nothing but Night Whispers.
15 hours ago
Topic:
New Extension: FL 1-click Wiki

Alasterin
Alasterin
Posts: 20
JohnLucci wrote:
This is great! Using it now with Firefox and I think I found a bug. The icon appears when I go to sell something at the bazaar but it doesn't do anything. Not sure if it was intended to show up there or if its just not set up yet.



Oh, no, that's definitely a bug. A new version (1.5.0) will trickle down in a couple of days and hopefully, it will be fixed there. If not, please let me know!

Ysrthgrathe wrote:
Brilliant! You're the best.

No, YOU are the best! Thank you for your kind words!
23 hours ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

Bluestocking
Bluestocking
Posts: 146
90!!! The RNG went well beyond hate to utter loathing there.

I mostly go in with 10-15 over requirements and have not failed any. Nor bought extra supplies with fate, which is an option for the desperate.

My current thing is the Crimson Petals- expensive, but I keep hoping for night whispers. The wiki says it's an "alternative" success not a "rare" success but I am beginning to doubt that.
23 hours ago
Topic:
Ave, Classicists

Bluestocking
Bluestocking
Posts: 146
Ita vero.

Sadly, it doesn't scan, and my Latin is far too rudimentary to write my own. I translated a lot of Catullus for my year 12 project way back in the dim dark past.
1 days ago
Topic:
Should someone make some kind of Hellworm Club?

Sir Reginald Monteroy
Sir Reginald Monteroy
Posts: 365
I say it should just be called The Hellworm Club.

The worm itself is such an overkill that it can afford the simplest denomination...

EDIT: And now I've remembered why the name always felt so appropriate for Victorian setting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club
edited by Sir Reginald Monteroy on 9/15/2021
1 days ago
Topic:
Ave, Classicists

the Inquisitive Masseurse
the Inquisitive Masseurse
Posts: 106
Bluestocking wrote:
Lugete, o Veneres Cupidinesque,
et quantum est hominum venustiorum:
passer mortuus est meae puellae,
passer, deliciae meae puellae,
quem plus illa oculis suis amabat.

Et cum diceret "passer", vespertilionem dico. :P
1 days ago
Topic:
Savour the Fruits of the Zee!

the Inquisitive Masseurse
the Inquisitive Masseurse
Posts: 106
Plynkes wrote:
So you got a bit of a better return for your troubles from either going with very good or (like Lady Gaga) very bad romances.


♪I want your hungry, I want your Replete
♪I want your urchins tumbling down from the flit, I want your brass
♪Brass brass brass I want your brass


♪I want your treason and I want you in chains
♪You and me, we gotta seek the Name...
1 days ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

Meradine Heidenreich
Meradine Heidenreich
Posts: 563
Hindering Rivals is expensive in terms of supplies, so the solution is to have plenty on hand. If you need to take that step, it throws them back from 8 or 9 to around 3 (sorry, my memory is fuzzy, it's a while ago).
I had the very devil of a time with the Tomb of the Seven. A mountain of supplies (90, IIRC), and I did so badly, there were just a handful left at the end. I never got the airs for "A Sign" and had to beat off rivals twice. The RNG just hated the ground I walked on.
Anyway: stock up liberally. Personally, I'd not go down the route of extending the expedition by playing safe, since the rivals progress anyway depending on airs, and it can bite you regardless. But your choice.
1 days ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

PJ
PJ
Posts: 612
The nature of a wiki is that anyone can edit it, even you. You don't even need to create a login if you don't mind your IP address being shown in the edit history
1 days ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

Vinish
Vinish
Posts: 14
Thanks. Is there anyone I can tell about the inaccurate wording in the wiki ("cards" vs. a storylet option)?
1 days ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 1340
The guide's wording is incorrect (or possibly outdated). The options to hinder Rivals appear based on Airs of the Forgotten Quarter. They are not cards, they are options in the regular Expedition storylet. They will simply appear if the Airs and Rival's Progress are aligned.

I haven't closely examined the numbers, but what you're describing is likely to be true. I'm not entirely surprised that the Mood and riskier approach end up canceling each other out. The longer Expeditions are targeted at a higher Watchful than what your character has. Don't let that deter you though, that just means it's harder, but not impossible. Especially for a quest expedition like Tomb of Seven.

I'll point out something important, though: If your Rival's Progress gets to 10, you can confront them at the cost of Expedition Supplies. And there's no downside to packing more supplies than you need; any unused supplies at the end of an Expedition are retained and can be used on future expeditions. So if you're worried about Rivals, I would just plan that a confrontation might be what has to happen and pack 40 or 45 supplies when you head out.
1 days ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

Lady Sapho Byron
Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 805
"One is the Airs-dependent cards that show up every now and then"

It's not actually a card, it's an option in the storylet. No need to hop in and out of the expedition for cards.

For 2): On a success, each crate of supplies you spend gets you 1 Archaeologist’s Progress. Assuming no failures, you always spend the same amount of supplies on a given expedition. So Tomb of Seven (needing 30 progress) with 100% cautious success = 30 actions and 30 supplies. With 100% bold success = 15 actions and 30 supplies.
edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 9/15/2021
1 days ago
Topic:
SMEN Betrayals, looking for fresh fresh betrayals!

Ladybunne
Ladybunne
Posts: 1
Hi there, I'm looking to have my alt account be betrayed.

She can be found here: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/seekerbunne

EDIT: thank you for the betrayal!
edited by Ladybunne on 9/16/2021
2 days ago
Topic:
Two Questions About Forgotten Qtr. Expeditions

Vinish
Vinish
Posts: 14
I hope you can help me with two newbie questions about Forgotten Quarter expeditions.

1) How do you "hinder rivals". The wiki seems to indicate that this is opportunity card based when your rivals' progress is 3-9 and the airs of the Forgotten Quarter are in the proper range. The quote from the wiki pages says, "One is the Airs-dependent cards that show up everyy now and then....." However, while on an expedition, you do not have any opportunity cards displayed. Are you supposed to exit the expedition page and get back to the main Base-Camp page to see the cards? If the rivals' progress is between 3-9 and you want to hinder them, is the best approach to monitor the airs of the Forgotten Quarter after each change (I am familiar with the scrapbook trick to reveal these airs) and, if they are in the necessary range (90-100 for Dr. Orthos and 80-90 for Virginia), exit the expedition page, go to the Base-Camp page and start clicking through cards?

2) The expeditions wiki page has a chart that shows "Average Progress to 10 Rivals progress". This varies as a function of the approach taken and your watchful stat level. I have completed the Deep Blue Heaven expedition twice. Once, I barely made it (rivals progress =9) and once I made it easily (RP = 4). This difference was probably just the randomness factor. For the next expedition, Tomb of Seven, I need to get to 30 progress and I am worried. My watchful is 95 and I 100% the cautious approach. I have a mood card that would allow me to bump my watchful to 125. I was hoping that I could use the bold approach but my percent chance of success for each step would be about 75% even with the stat boost. So this brings me to my question. According to the aforementioned wiki table, I would appear to have a greater likelihood of beating my rivals if I use the cautious approach without the stat boost than I would with the stat boost and a bold approach. According to this table, a cautious approach with 100% chance at each step yields an Average Progress to 10 Rivals progress of 36 (I win) while a bold approach with a 75% chance yields about 27 (rival wins). Am I looking at this correctly? In fact, even using a 100% success and a bold approach, I get the same Average Progress to 10 Rivals progress of 36 so there is no benefit to success from using the bold approach. It would seem the only benefit to the bold approach is reducing the number of actions needed although a bold approach uses more supplies which would take more actions to generate. Am I analyzing the cautious vs. bold approach at 100% correctly?

Thanks and G'day,

Vinish
2 days ago
Topic:
Savour the Fruits of the Zee!

Plynkes
Plynkes
Posts: 850
Oh, I didn't even realise. EPA is something that I never consider, I'm afraid. When I see discussions about it on the forum my eyes glaze over and I find another topic to read. It would kill my immersion and enjoyment of the game to reduce it to what is mathematically most efficient, so I don't even think about it.
2 days ago
Topic:
Savour the Fruits of the Zee!

Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
Posts: 690
Plynkes wrote:
So you got a bit of a better return for your troubles from either going with very good or (like Lady Gaga) very bad romances.
Well. Your overall reward was increased, but in terms of EPA your return was actually subtantially worse. They really could have thought that one through better.
2 days ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 13/09/2021

Meradine Heidenreich
Meradine Heidenreich
Posts: 563
NotaWalrus wrote:
To answer Meradine's question from last week's thread. The Bohemian Sculture pays in surface blooms for skeleton value and in rumours of the upper river for counter-church theology.


Thanks, that's useful to know.
2 days ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 13/09/2021

NotaWalrus
NotaWalrus
Posts: 433
To answer Meradine's question from last week's thread. The Bohemian Sculture pays in surface blooms for skeleton value and in rumours of the upper river for counter-church theology.




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