 Televangelist Posts: 109
6 days ago
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It's been announced that there will be some form of 'new game plus' for Fallen London released this year, where we essentially re-roll our endgame character and then get to experience the game fresh from a new perspective (perhaps even following a different Ambition storyline), with some additional content that we didn't see 'the first time'.
That's great, in theory!
But a lot depends on what exactly will be reset, and what won't be. Folks with Cider or other extremely rare items/qualities probably aren't going to love the idea of giving it up. Having to re-buy six years of Exceptional Stories sounds less than ideal. And given that Fallen London is releasing a ton of new 'endgame' content this year, it would feel less-than-great to sink a ton of time into those new qualities only to find that effort wasted if the 'new game plus' reset zeroes it out. Even if the new game plus option doesn't come out for another six months, getting basic information now about what is/isn't likely to be included will help us make decisions about our time and characters that feel good.
So, can we have some basic info, please?  edited by Televangelist on 5/17/2020
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
6 days ago
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My baseless hunch is that we'll learn more about the final endings when the Paramount Presence changes arrive.
-- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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 phryne Posts: 1351
6 days ago
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I'm more interested in the FINAL END opportunities than any kind of reset, tbh.
I've never reset anything in FL except for one ES where I was unkindly affected by a bug in the mechanics. I definitely will not completely reset any of my accounts.
A FINAL END different from SMEN might be interesting for one or two accounts of mine.
-- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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 Jolanda Swan Posts: 1789
6 days ago
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Reset your character? That sounds like a nightmare. There is so much early FL content that is an endless grind, and I did spend Fate (both to help the game, avoid a Scylla/Charybdis choice or simply forgo grinding) that I am not going through that again. After all, I am sure there is more 'endgame content' to come; Dilmun Club, Arbor, etc. Since I am hardly unique in all that, I am guessing something else is afoot.
-- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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 Honeyaddict Posts: 501
6 days ago
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I would not mind it that much if it is something like resetting "A Name Written in ..." And choosing a new Ambition, along with resetting (but keeping the new caps) of the 4 base stats, I would mind it very much if it would be something akin to removing all your items and qualities.
I would love to be able to do all Four/Five Ambitions on a single character 
But then again, losing everything I have gotten so far would outweigh that desire too much.
-- Honeyaddict, Scarlet Saint, Paramount Presence pleasure to meet you.
Has some ideas the Masters won't approve of like some items and establishing a Colony in Parabola.
I will accept most social interactions (not duping). I do enjoy role playing as well. Have some possibly still active codes!
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
5 days ago
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All I ask is that there be only an opportunity to reset one's character, not a requirement to do so.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Aro Saren Posts: 124
5 days ago
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We need to wait until these options are actually implemented, since you won't be forced to immediately pick one as soon as you log in.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Andre%20Alexin Will accept only something interesting.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
5 days ago
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Aro Saren wrote:
We need to wait until these options are actually implemented, since you won't be forced to immediately pick one as soon as you log in.
Quite likely you are right. We all should cease this anxious speculation until we know more.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Plynkes Posts: 631
5 days ago
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
All I ask is that there be only an opportunity to reset one's character, not a requirement to do so.
Couldn't agree more. I have no desire to do this, and it would kill my enthusiasm for playing my character if forced into it.
Sorry, more pointless speculation, but I only just found out about this, and I am indeed a little anxious about it.
-- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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 Tuxi Posts: 17
4 days ago
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
Quite likely you are right. We all should cease this anxious speculation until we know more.
I get anxious any time Failbetter teases it. More info would help with that.
-- The Gentle Intermediary
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 Dudebro Pyro Posts: 757
4 days ago
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There is approximately zero chance Failbetter will forcefully wipe anything on our characters. SMEN, which people have been diving into with joy, is absolutely riddled with warnings and disclaimers - and its original implementation was put on hold for about three years largely due to the fact that it didn't have enough disclaimers, causing players - paying customers, as a matter of fact - to lose progress. I'm quite curious as to what will become possible, but I see no reason to be anxious.
-- Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar
Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them. For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
4 days ago
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
There is approximately zero chance Failbetter will forcefully wipe anything on our characters. SMEN, which people have been diving into with joy, is absolutely riddled with warnings and disclaimers - and its original implementation was put on hold for about three years largely due to the fact that it didn't have enough disclaimers, causing players - paying customers, as a matter of fact - to lose progress. I'm quite curious as to what will become possible, but I see no reason to be anxious. I suspect, from my long experience of the game and of dealing with Failbetter, that you are absolutely right, Dudebro. But now I am even more curious about what they have in mind for the future of the game.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Ian Hart Posts: 437
4 days ago
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All I want is to play the other Ambitions (or have the option to replay my first one.) If I have to reset anything else with that, I'm only going to see it as a negative.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Antifinity
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 Quidam Posts: 51
4 days ago
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The writer and developper know what they are doing, and knows the wide variety of attitude that make up the player base. They want to surprise the player, and that's fine. All things shall be well and all manner of things shall be well.
-- Just another face in the crowd https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Quidam A hunger, a curse, a question https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Limos
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 Kylestien Posts: 749
4 days ago
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No info on what is lost or kept yet sadly, but a card has been found at zee that goes into a bit more detail. Seems there are three possible ends, and you leave "A significant legacy" to a new player character.
Problem right now is, we have no idea what carries over in this legacy, and i'd bet good money that ahcivemenas like boatman's opponant or correpondance scholer and the like are not one of them due to being titles rather then objects.
-- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien
Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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 PSGarak Posts: 834
4 days ago
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I set out to see to verify this, and somehow managed to draw it in my first hand despite being Very Infrequent. I'm updating the Wiki now.
https://fallenlondon.fandom.com/wiki/Toward_the_Canal (Spoiler warning: Spoiler Level = "...my goodness.")
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/18571574 (Spoiler Level = not so much.) edited by PSGarak on 5/19/2020
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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 Kylestien Posts: 749
4 days ago
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Update: I also managed to find a second card. (Note: SERIOUS SPOILERS FOR HEART'S DESIRE, AS WELL AS FOR THIS END. As for where the card is, it's where you think it is.)
[spoiler] https://i.imgur.com/VCC1eM5.png https://i.imgur.com/rIu0xY9.png
https://i.imgur.com/XuWd9mG.png
There is also a non HD one: https://i.imgur.com/sA3XbyS.png [/spoiler] edited by Kylestien on 5/19/2020
-- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien
Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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 chiche Posts: 50
3 days ago
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I am now a dragon sleeping on gold, and the process of amassing so much gold makes me tired. I need to sleep on a mountain of gold COINS for a while, and I don't want to give them up yet.
-- -->Kacher, a headstrong, arbitrary lady She life is spent in the pursuit of pleasure https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/kacher
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 Issimgur Posts: 11
3 days ago
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Option found in the Broad Unterzee: [spoiler] [/spoiler]
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 Tintinnabulum Posts: 61
3 days ago
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The new cards above sound similar to what I thought might happen-- a 'passing on' of items / characteristics / etc. similar to Sunless Sea and Sunless Skies, to a descendant. Though without the character being eaten by a crewmember first.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Tintinnabulum
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