Tsar Koschei wrote:

I never really got all the fuss about the Notability grind. Sure, it takes a while, but it's very simple to do. For the most part I just converted enormous amounts of tier 3 resources around the carousel, while attending parties, helping out the singer, etc.

I mean, is it an especially fun part of the game? No, definitely not. It's a grind. But I don't feel like it's particularly more objectionable than any of the other grinds in the game, of which there are many, first and foremost of course being the echo grind.

I agree that the Notability grind is tolerable, but there are reasons it stands out from other grinds.

First is the time pressure. Other grinds allow you to take time off, whether to play other stories or participate in seasonal events, to grind something else or even just take a break from the game. Notability is much less lenient. Not only does playing other content risk loss of progress, but even actively grinding can turn into time wasted if you're too slow and hit TtH. Some people also like maintaining Notability for its own sake, where a short distraction requires significant effort to fix.

Second is the highly variable difficulty. This matters less for Paramount Presence and more for content that's supposed to be accessible to everyone, but it tends to be memorable as a result. (Especially with two years of Notability grinds for Hallowmas.) But even for an endgame achievement, spending Fate on a few points of BDR still makes the grind exponentially easier.

Finally, Notability is more relevant story-wise than money. High-level professions, PoSI specializations, and Paramount Presence are all significant accomplishments reasonably interpreted as character milestones. Echo grinds give mechanical benefits, but how many players consider equipment bonuses relevant to their character's story? How many more players pursue Paramount Presence than Cider or the Heptagoat?
edited by Optimatum on 4/20/2020

Catherine Raymond wrote:

Or the Heptagoat for that matter, though I believe the total amount of Echoes required for a Heptagoat is significantly less.

It isn't. In fact, it is more expensive than cider.

Snort wrote:

Soooooo ... I might make it by the end of May. All I need do is make a LOT of acquaintances and do London's Sinew, recap my Watchful, and do London's Nerves by the end of May. The last bit will be dicey, but it's something to strive for.

So I'll be firing off calling cards in all directions while grinding. If any of you are amenable, I would dearly love to send one to you.
edited by Snort on 4/26/2020

I'll help. My acquaintance list is littered with names I don't recall anymore... so, I'll take anyone who needs it. You can drop me later if you like.

So am I still going to be a Paramount Presence at the end of all this, or am I going to have to do the new grind too? And am I going to get to keep my over-capped stats? Not sure I understand how this is going to work.

All of the benefits for Paramount Presences will be retained. Much of the content will be the same, but the grind will be more varied in future.

Her Ladyship The Ydell Sovereign wrote:

It would be nice if we could remove deactivated accounts from out list....

But you can do that! Simply go to "Account Settings" (at the very top of the page if you use a desktop machine, or go to "Account" at the bottom of the movable sidebar on the left if you use a phone or tablet). In "Account/Account Settings" look for your "Contacts" and click the "x" beside the ones you wish to eliminate. That's it!

Now, unless the person or FBG has deactivated the account (so that it's marked DEACTIVATED) you may not know whether a user has just stopped playing FL and doesn't intend to return; that's a different problem.

Oh boy, I do regret having neglected my grinds for so long. I need two more qualities, and about 1100 scraps. Time to go back to grinding full-time.
Can someone remind me where you change your specialisation? I can't find it anymore, especially with the location reshuffle making everything a bit harder to locate.

The unique title is beautiful, by the way.