Powered by Jitbit .Net Forum free trial version.
the topic is closed | show rated messages only

HomeFallen London » The Bazaar

This is the place to discuss playing the game. Find tips, debate the best places to find certain items and share advice.

Weekly Fallen London Questions, 04/09/2017 Messages in this topic - RSS

Diptych
Diptych
Administrator
Posts: 3493

9/4/2017
Here's this week's thread for all quick questions and answers relating to Fallen London!

--
Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
0 link
Màiread
Màiread
Posts: 385

9/4/2017
Assuming one isn't willing to become a rat catcher, is it better to use Unfinished Business or the Department of Menace Eradication to grind a truly staggering amount of rats? The society loss seems to have been replaced by scandal so I'm not sure how the maths works out.

--
Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake.

Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |

Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.

I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
0 link
Waterpls
Waterpls
Posts: 325

9/4/2017
Unfished business ~110 rats per action, no Scandal
Department of Menace Eradicatio 110 rats per action (with 250 Dangerous) + scandal + inital 2 action cost

--
Long grinds: Heptagoat 100/180; Cider Done; Correspondence 21/21; Paramount 4/4.
0 link
Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 1048

9/4/2017
Is it possible to own multiple Hounds of Heaven? The answer seems to be "yes," judging on storylet requirements, but that's a lot of actions to gamble if it turns out to be "no."

--
Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
+1 link
Sara Hysaro
Sara Hysaro
Moderator
Posts: 4514

9/5/2017
You can have as many Hounds of Heaven as your heart desires!

--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro
Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.

Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
+2 link
Dudebro Pyro
Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756

9/5/2017
That's not true; assuming a full 144 actions a day (meaning exceptional friendship with less than 6.6 hours of sleep per night), and assuming a highly optimistic (perhaps even impossibly so) 32 actions per hound, you can acquire at most 4.5 hounds a day. Average life expectancy is about 75 years; if we throw out a wild assumption that current age is likely 15 to 25 years, and assume exceptional longevity (without senility/dementia or other conditions which would preclude playing), we can take 100 years of grinding as likely the most one can do in a lifetime - leading to an upper bound of around 164,400 hounds of heaven in a single lifetime.

So if, for instance, your heart desires 165,000 hounds of heaven, unfortunately that seems to be impossible.

--
Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar

Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
+11 link
Gonen
Gonen
Posts: 817

9/5/2017
Dudebro Pyro wrote:
That's not true; assuming a full 144 actions a day (meaning exceptional friendship with less than 6.6 hours of sleep per night), and assuming a highly optimistic (perhaps even impossibly so) 32 actions per hound, you can acquire at most 4.5 hounds a day. Average life expectancy is about 75 years; if we throw out a wild assumption that current age is likely 15 to 25 years, and assume exceptional longevity (without senility/dementia or other conditions which would preclude playing), we can take 100 years of grinding as likely the most one can do in a lifetime - leading to an upper bound of around 164,400 hounds of heaven in a single lifetime.

So if, for instance, your heart desires 165,000 hounds of heaven, unfortunately that seems to be impossible.


Brilliant!
Though it's what Siankan heart desires, so if Siankan wishes for only 5 - that statement is indeed true.
Also, you can get that infinite number of hounds by winning a certain unique card game (Ambition yet unfinished, player may or may not truly get 165,000 hounds)
edited by Gonen on 9/5/2017

--
The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.

The long journey to eccentricity:
On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
+4 link
Estelle Knoht
Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751

9/5/2017
Dudebro Pyro wrote:
That's not true; assuming a full 144 actions a day (meaning exceptional friendship with less than 6.6 hours of sleep per night), and assuming a highly optimistic (perhaps even impossibly so) 32 actions per hound, you can acquire at most 4.5 hounds a day. Average life expectancy is about 75 years; if we throw out a wild assumption that current age is likely 15 to 25 years, and assume exceptional longevity (without senility/dementia or other conditions which would preclude playing), we can take 100 years of grinding as likely the most one can do in a lifetime - leading to an upper bound of around 164,400 hounds of heaven in a single lifetime.

So if, for instance, your heart desires 165,000 hounds of heaven, unfortunately that seems to be impossible.


You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam, which inevitably happens alongside social events like Election.

Alternatively, using the app could fudge the number a bit, legitimately or illegitimately. For the latter, you can probably own 165,000 hounds in a flash, but you won't keep them for more than a flash.

--
Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady.
I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
+4 link
suinicide
suinicide
Posts: 2409

9/5/2017
Of course, if this truly is your hearts desire, you should be willing to spend money on it to refresh your actions.

--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
+6 link
dov
dov
Posts: 2580

9/5/2017
Estelle Knoht wrote:
You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam

Shhhh. Don't draw the attention of the jam overlords...

--
Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
(Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
+4 link
Kaijyuu
Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047

9/5/2017
suinicide wrote:
Of course, if this truly is your hearts desire, you should be willing to spend money on it to refresh your actions.

20 actions costs 10 fate, which with the most efficient fate purchase you can get 28 times for $50. There is roughly the equivalent of 60 trillion american dollars worth of money in the world (it's a hard number to pin down given all the bullshit rich people get up to, but let's go with 60 trillion), so if you had all the money in the world, you could buy 672000000000 additional actions, or 21000000000 additional hounds.

This doesn't take into account that you may be able to wish for your money back in your hands to spend it on fate again, nor does it take into account that FBG would, after gaining all that money, cease to be a game company and start being the world's overlords, at which point FL would no longer be very high on their priority list. Or that the world in general may no longer consider all that currency valid and it would vanish into thin air as the worthless abstraction that it is. Upon receiving invalid currency, FBG would certainly take away any benefits you received from your illicit fate purchase.

---
edited by Kaijyuu on 9/5/2017

--
Be of good cheer. Our contacts have assured us that your sins are forgiven.
+8 link
Sara Hysaro
Sara Hysaro
Moderator
Posts: 4514

9/5/2017
We have the best community.

--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro
Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.

Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
+7 link
DeserterKalak
DeserterKalak
Posts: 94

9/5/2017
Does the Wry Functionary's story concerning financial inconsistencies at the admiralty terminate after you've successfully repelled the attempt on his life?

--
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/DeserterKalak
0 link
Pumpkinhead
Pumpkinhead
Posts: 516

9/5/2017
dov wrote:
Estelle Knoht wrote:
You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam

Shhhh. Don't draw the attention of the jam overlords...

Good heavens. Wasn't Alexis scared by spacemarine's rambling in a FL message? This is 100x more over the top than that.
I love it.

--
McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!)
Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
0 link
Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 1048

9/5/2017
dov wrote:
Estelle Knoht wrote:
You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam

Shhhh. Don't draw the attention of the jam overlords...

You know, I was chugging along fine, getting grading done, when this happened. Now my brother, in whose living room I sit, is worried I may be choking.

Of course, I've also indoctrinated a few folk in the past few minutes, so I too have sticky guilt on my hands.

Edit: Props to anyone who manages to work jam into their art contest entries. Just sayin'.
edited by Siankan on 9/5/2017

--
Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
0 link
Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 1048

9/5/2017
Kaijyuu wrote:
suinicide wrote:
Of course, if this truly is your hearts desire, you should be willing to spend money on it to refresh your actions.

20 actions costs 10 fate, which with the most efficient fate purchase you can get 28 times for $50. There is roughly the equivalent of 60 trillion american dollars worth of money in the world (it's a hard number to pin down given all the bullshit rich people get up to, but let's go with 60 trillion), so if you had all the money in the world, you could buy 672000000000 additional actions, or 21000000000 additional hounds.

This doesn't take into account that you may be able to wish for your money back in your hands to spend it on fate again, nor does it take into account that FBG would, after gaining all that money, cease to be a game company and start being the world's overlords, at which point FL would no longer be very high on their priority list. Or that the world in general may no longer consider all that currency valid and it would vanish into thin air as the worthless abstraction that it is. Upon receiving invalid currency, FBG would certainly take away any benefits you received from your illicit fate purchase.

I just want to point out that, by the extremely scientific process of typing things into Google and looking for the most trustworthy among the top five or so returns, I have discovered the world's total wealth to be roughly $241,000,000,000 USD. No word yet on the conversion rate into rostygold.

--
Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
+2 link
Vincent Asmund
Vincent Asmund
Posts: 314

9/5/2017
Pumpkinhead wrote:
dov wrote:
Estelle Knoht wrote:
You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam

Shhhh. Don't draw the attention of the jam overlords...

Good heavens. Wasn't Alexis scared by spacemarine's rambling in a FL message? This is 100x more over the top than that.
I love it.


I need the link to that!

--

Vincent Åsmund
, an ex-Author searching to return to his former glory.

Konstantin Sorokin, a newcomer to the Neath with revolutionary tendencies.
0 link
Lallinka
Lallinka
Posts: 138

9/5/2017
Umm...is anyone else's social actions behaving most strangely? The request you can click "respond" on don't seem to disappear even after you've played them. But when you want to play them again, you cannot accept, nor decline, nor do anything. I've JUST gotten my latest bug report solved yesterday, too.

--
Lallinka is accepting any social interactions as soon as my actions allow it. No Loitering and no Photographer, please. Available for interviews about Nemesis and a Midnighter for Orphanages.

Ragish is accepting everything, including Loitering and Photographer. Available for interviews about Heart's Desire and a Crooked-cross for Salons.

Pienkava is freshly out of prison and will need charity to survive in the harsh streets of London. Have pity, she is only fifteen.
0 link
dov
dov
Posts: 2580

9/5/2017
Lallinka wrote:
Umm...is anyone else's social actions behaving most strangely? The request you can click "respond" on don't seem to disappear even after you've played them. But when you want to play them again, you cannot accept, nor decline, nor do anything. I've JUST gotten my latest bug report solved yesterday, too.

Yeah, I've noticed that too, not long ago.

Haven't submitted a bug report yet.

--
Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
(Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
0 link
Tyrconnell
Tyrconnell
Posts: 271

9/5/2017
Siankan wrote:
I just want to point out that, by the extremely scientific process of typing things into Google and looking for the most trustworthy among the top five or so returns, I have discovered the world's total wealth to be roughly $241,000,000,000 USD. No word yet on the conversion rate into rostygold.

That can't be right. There are . I think you're going by this article, which also starts with $241 but has an extra trio of zeroes in there. $241 trillion sounds much more reasonable.


  • Please remember that fabulous wealth entitles you to perks not available to the masses or, indeed, publicly listed. Were one to approach Failbetter with an offer of enough money I'm sure one could come to an agreement by which the action limit could be turned off. Failing that, one could hire a hacker to take care of it. Or a lot of them. Calculably but inconceivably vast wealth opens many doors!

    Really it's probably more efficient, and with a conceivable if vast amount of money, to simply buy Failbetter and run it as one chooses. That could entail having infinite actions, of course, but it's much easier to just add a button to grant a number of hounds of heaven equal to the number entered in a field. Like buying from the bazaar, but without an echo cost.

    --
    Tyrconnell, a gentleman and doctor of diverse interests and multifarious proclivities
  • +1 link




    Powered by Jitbit Forum 8.0.2.0 © 2006-2013 Jitbit Software