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Dudebro Pyro
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7/22/2016
I was looking around but haven't found any advice about this. I'm trying to get a personal library, and would like to know which is more efficient: embarking on an scientific expedition, or pursuing a legal case?

And a related question I was wondering about: since I'm not disgraced at the university, is there any use for research notes from expeditions other than the library? I understand the EPA is rather mediocre, and most of the other rewards have little use besides being sold.
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Lisbella Peridot
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7/22/2016
Unless you win on the first try, scientific expeditions should be faster.

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Kaijyuu
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7/22/2016
If you're taking a long time to get a boat (like me) and are impatient to get a library (like me), then the legal case isn't TOO bad a grind. The expedition is superior if the option is available though.

As for your other question: not really, no. You can get some unique items for collector's value if you like.

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Dudebro Pyro
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7/22/2016
Thanks for the advice, I'll embark on an expedition then. I don't have a boat yet, and even though it's next on my to-do list I'm planning on gambling with dear Mr. Apples for it, so it might take a while till I get it. Thankfully I have my Shrine to tide me over.

Also, a full library consisting solely of my own personal research! Perhaps not the best for educational value, but second to none for stroking my in-game ego.

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BlabberingMat
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7/22/2016
Related question: I have my Zubmarine, and getting Library is next thing I wanna do. How do I start that expedition?

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The Master
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7/22/2016
BlabberingMat wrote:
Related question: I have my Zubmarine, and getting Library is next thing I wanna do. How do I start that expedition?


Didn't do the story in a while, but the wiki says that you need to complete the university story and then with some items and qualities you go to your lodging click the "find new stories:chat with the local gossip and then check the watchful path.

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BlabberingMat
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7/22/2016
The Master wrote:
BlabberingMat wrote:
Related question: I have my Zubmarine, and getting Library is next thing I wanna do. How do I start that expedition?


Didn't do the story in a while, but the wiki says that you need to complete the university story and then with some items and qualities you go to your lodging click the &quotfind new stories:chat with the local gossip and then check the watchful path.

*sighs* Oh, well, then. Thank you for the advice. I think I will focus on getting banished from Court and gaining God's Editors membership first.

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Dudebro Pyro
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7/22/2016
Actually IIRC once you've finished the university storyline you should get a global gold storylet about a sneering servant from the Dilmun Club. Give him a bunch of items, including some PoSI ones, and you'll unlock the storylet in your lodgings that lets you prepare for and embark on the expedition

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Skinnyman
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7/22/2016
BlabberingMat wrote:
*sighs* Oh, well, then. Thank you for the advice. I think I will focus on getting banished from Court and gaining God's Editors membership first.

Be sure to enjoy the Term Passing carousel from Featuring in the Tales of the University 5 before advancing to the upper levels of Tales. Also, the library becomes important after reaching level 200 Watchful among with a goat so you can use buccaneering approach on expeditions w/o fear of failure (level 267 Watchful).

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Grenem
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7/23/2016
Lisbella Peridot wrote:
Unless you win on the first try, scientific expeditions should be faster.

are 4 echoes in cryptic clues and 2 actions per try really going to make that much difference? [that's all you lose on loss, according to both game and wiki.]

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A Dimness
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7/23/2016
I just got the library through the Bazaar side-streets on the first try. Why is the scientific expedition better?

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Skinnyman
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7/23/2016
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
I just got the library through the Bazaar side-streets on the first try. Why is the scientific expedition better?

Well, congratulations! Getting it from the Bazaar is more expensive AP and/or Echo wise unless you get very lucky when converting hellish items.

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BlabberingMat
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7/23/2016
Skinnyman wrote:
BlabberingMat wrote:
*sighs* Oh, well, then. Thank you for the advice. I think I will focus on getting banished from Court and gaining God's Editors membership first.

Be sure to enjoy the Term Passing carousel from Featuring in the Tales of the University 5 before advancing to the upper levels of Tales. Also, the library becomes important after reaching level 200 Watchful among with a goat so you can use buccaneering approach on expeditions w/o fear of failure (level 267 Watchful).

I am on Tales at 11 already, I took my time with it.

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 Saklad
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7/23/2016
I also feel that assembling it from a Scientific Expedition is a lot more ethical.

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Professor Strix
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7/23/2016
I think that making expeditions is way more fun than grinding in Wilmot's End for legal documents, but that's me.

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Grenem
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7/23/2016
Skinnyman wrote:
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
I just got the library through the Bazaar side-streets on the first try. Why is the scientific expedition better?

Well, congratulations! Getting it from the Bazaar is more expensive AP and/or Echo wise unless you get very lucky when converting hellish items.

No- well, yes, but all you lose on loss is 4 echoes in clues, and 2 actions- one of which is the nuisance of a card, but still.

The main reason scientific expeditions are better is there aren't a lot of good uses for the journals, and you can get a lot of them just by exploring islands, or even just zee. It's also an interesting grind as opposed to a dull one, which is always nice.
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