th8827
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1/11/2016
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No to disappearing, or no to keeping them?
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Sara Hysaro
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1/11/2016
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Items you get during the feast will not disappear - only Masquing will.
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dov
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1/11/2016
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You definitely keep the items.
I still have my full set of 52 Singed Playing Cards, as well as the set of 32 Buttered Chess Pieces.
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Grenem
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1/12/2016
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Nigel, in the guide the point that should be dreaded from the tatoo is listed as Dangerous. this is clearly an error, and should be remedied as soon as reasonable.
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Nigel Overstreet
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1/12/2016
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Grenem wrote:
Nigel, in the guide the point that should be dreaded from the tattoo is listed as Dangerous. this is clearly an error, and should be remedied as soon as reasonable. This was already pointed out and amended some time ago.
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
1/12/2016
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Nigel Overstreet wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Nigel, in the guide the point that should be dreaded from the tattoo is listed as Dangerous. this is clearly an error, and should be remedied as soon as reasonable. This was already pointed out and amended some time ago.
oh, opps. sorry, loaded an old copy and didn't check that it was still the same. i'm totally failing today. hopefully you're feeling more competent!
Here's something that might be useful: during the feast, these options were best, last year for gathering masqueing for each airs.As such, if nothing changes, these should be the options to beat for any new facets on the old cards. (I cannot promise nothing will change, but i will update it with any new information.)
it's worth exploring all the options anyways, but if you want to get masqueing fast near the feast's end, these are best:
- Airs 1-25: A lovers Tryst: Meet by the silver fountain.(2 masquing)
If you can manage the stat check, you get 5 echoes in items AND 2 masquing, and +10 fascinating if it is greater than 0. Just one of the first two would make it impressive. both means very few people will actually mind getting the feast card while their airs are in this range.
Alternately, if you're a gambing sort or really need a persuasive mood card, you can go to a masked revel and try dancing with a mysterious stranger for the rare success. while it only offers one masquing on standard success, on the rare one it gives an entire antique mystery AND a persuasive mood.
- Airs 26-50: buy a kiss from sinning jenny: negotiate a little first (2 masquing unless you fail the check or get the rare success)
Pay 50 amber for a 2.5 echo item, as well as 2 romantic notions and gain 2 masqueing. however, this one has a rare "success" so do be warned. you get no monetary payout, but do get a single point masqueing and 2 points in wounds and scandal
should you prefer raw echoes, a better option is to 'take cold blooded advantage' on 'mrs. gebrandt's asks for your help'. it pays out 3.6 echoes in items, but gives no masquing. alternatively, you can be cruel to be kind and get 10 bottles of tincture of vigor she sells, which, should you be inclined to buy such items, saves you 10 echoes.
- Airs 51-75: A mysterious envelope: (The only option, 1.5 masquing on average)
It's not perfect, it's a luck check, but it's the most reliable option. randomly gives 1 masqueing and 10 cp watchful or 2 cp and an average of 50 pence in romantic notions.
Alternatively, should you desire to seek hedonism, "the perfumed pleasure garden: enjoying the decadence"'s rare success was an uncapped- well, capped at 12 or higher- source of hedonism last year. it may remain so this year.
additionally, if you've never met the captivating princess yet, you can meet her in the "The duchess' banquet" for 15 masquing. it returns a 312.5 echo item, and some... rather negative moral consequences that may come back to bite you in the future. or they may not, i haven't seen the price you pay yet. Still, while the action is neither heartless nor ruthless in-game, because you don't know what you've done... it's not a nice thing to do.
note that this is a 1-time payout, and will not be availible next year, and the only fate-unlocked source of a dreadful surmise is hallowmas. you probably could get one then, but holding onto it might be a good idea.
"the wheel of affection", also in the pleasure garden, will on "failure" return an otherwise unavailible item, 'gift of scorn', as mentioned in the original guide. It's about as useless as you can get, but if you like collecting trinkets, this one is worth getting.
if you're interested in echoes, this is the dud range. your only option is trawling for certain rare successes.
- Airs 76-100: "a face from the past: don't remind yourself"
it returns a handful of romantic notions- about 1.1 echo's worth, on average. it also returns 2 masquing.
should you desire to grind afterwards, this is the source of the best echo grinding option too, by 'seeking an intruiging resemblance'. it'll give a love story worth 2.5 echoes. it also gives 4 cp watchful, and may boost two quirks, though it won't cut any, so unless you're trying to keep a quirk zeroed, it's not worth worrying about.
should you desire to grind MW, there's an option under "scandal and intruige" to send a freind a romantic note. i don't know how many waves it returns, and it requires fascinating in the first place (though it boosts it quite nicely). if it's worth doing, tell the rest of us! if it's not, please, please please tell us! (I could try to stockpile the record fascinating, but that's... a horrendous waste of time that'd get lost the instant i went to zee, sadly.)
Rare successes:
(incomplete, and likely to stay so, unless someone actually finds this part valuable)
Sadly, I Don't have the odds of the successes, but if you want to see everything, these are the ones with known rare success. i'll also comment on how good they are, though it may be unreliable.
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Airs 1-25:
"A Masked Revel":
- "Dance with a mysterious stranger":
the normal success gives a confident smile and four persuasive points. the rare success improves upon this, giving three confident smiles, a persuasive mood (+30 hat that vanishes in an hour, if you didn't know) and a substantial payout in echoes. (12.8 echoes) it's probably pretty rare, but i really don't know. if you need a large persuasive boost, this is certainly worth a shot, though. If it's common, then people interested in boosting persuasive might find it to be competetive with the meeting by the silver fountain. otherwise, only do it if you want to see the text or really need the mood.
- "Assignation in the garden with a stranger" and "remove a mysterious stranger's mask"
Both have the same rare success, except for the text- a 3.5 echo payout and an event that sets intimate of devils to 1, if at 0, and increases it unless you're up past 4. it does give the reasonably rare venge rat corpse though. These are really common. watch out for them, if you're avoiding the soul-selling story.
Returns 2.66 echoes in items on rare success.if you're grinding whispered secrets here for some reason, it's a nice payout. however, the only reason to do it is because you want to see the text, really.
"A dance with devils", "A lover's tryst", and "Seasonal mischeif":
Airs 26-50:
"A long lost love"
- "Offer to help find the lady"
Very little information is availible about this option, sadly. it gives a 2.5 echo item and some amount of masqueing for doing it. it's not even confirmed on the wiki.
"Buy a kiss from sinning jenny"
Remeber how i talked about the rare "success" from sinning jenny if you negotiate a little? this is that "success." Only worth seeking if, agaim, you desire to see everything. far more people will see it unwillingly though. I don't know how rare it is in the feast, but i got it once.
"Enjoy theatrical entertainment"
- "Suggest a children's puppet show"
returns roughly the same loot, but gives four masquing and interesting insights into... puppets. yeah. If you're seeking this out, might as well do it early, or after you claim your new companions.
Airs 51-75:
"The duchess' banquet"
- "catch the attention of the duchess"
pays a little over 15 echoes. if this were common... would be very worth doing. sadly, i can't say it is... it might be, but i doubt it.
- "what's going on in the wine cellars"
This option has always been for lore, not material rewards. the rare success, a whopping 3 echoes, is no exception. the lore might be worth it, though.
"seek advice from madaam shoshana"
Returns a touching love story. might be reasonably common, but... sadly, i haven't sought most of these out. i'll do that when the season starts.
"The purfumed pleasure garden"
(note, if seeking all rare success, this can be accessed without using the feast card, so you can spend more time on the others. it costs two actions that way IIRC, though, so it might not be worth doing.)
Double the ticket payout and 2.7 echoes. not amazing, but not bad either. probably going to be more common accordingly.
rare success gives 13 echoes. pretty good, and certainly an option if you need to shuffle airs.
mostly worthless- a mere 3 echoes- but it offers uncapped hedonism growth- "well, the usual capped at 12-15 hedonism growth." the point where hedonism can be sustained.
provides you with puzzle-damask, worth 12.5 echoes. not exactly the kind of drop you see everyday. also boosts masquing by 3, if and only if it's under 18
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1/12/2016
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Maybe echo grinding will have to wait until after this feast. I need to stockpile more stuff.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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2/5/2016
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The Feast starts February 9, per FBG on Twitter. (Also, it's worth noting that FBG has warned that all festivals are subject to change from year to year.)
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
2/5/2016
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an_ocelot wrote:
The Feast starts February 9, per FBG on Twitter. (Also, it's worth noting that FBG has warned that all festivals are subject to change from year to year.)
edited by an_ocelot on 2/5/2016
I know- so take my guide with some salt. hopefully the doubtful kind, not the hostile/trolling kind, though either is fine.Still, it gives you an idea of where to start, and when i'm using it i will update it accordingly, or delete it as needed. Added in a disclaimer as to its dubious reliability.
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Mordaine Barimen
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2/5/2016
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I had begun work on a guide to FotER myself, but considering recent revelations, it would seem very counterproductive to post it.
My apologies to people I'd promised that I would post one.
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Happy Londoner
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2/5/2016
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Thanks for a great guide!
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Nanako
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2/6/2016
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i'm currently stockpiling the items that will be useful.
I'd really appreciate an estimate though, on what would be reasonable amounts of each to stock up on. i'd like to not run out during the feast
Romantic Notions, Appalling Secrets, Prisoner's Honey, Intriguing Snippets, Cryptic Clues and Inklings of Identity.
give me estimates for each
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
2/6/2016
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Nanako wrote:
i'm currently stockpiling the items that will be useful.
I'd really appreciate an estimate though, on what would be reasonable amounts of each to stock up on. i'd like to not run out during the feast
Romantic Notions, Appalling Secrets, Prisoner's Honey, Intriguing Snippets, Cryptic Clues and Inklings of Identity.
give me estimates for each
It really depends. I know, cliche and unhelpful, but it's true.
The gifts cost as follows:
(= means can be substituted for equivalent masqueing, though each item gives it's own, unique gift, but they're almost all mechanically identical in-sofar as drops are concerned.)
500 cryptic clues = 500 prisoner's honey = 100 romantic notions = 50 intruiging snipped =1 masqueing
200 inklings of identity = 300 appaling secrets = 2 masqueing
If you're completionist and if you want to save fate (by using the any-player gifts instead) and get every possible companion, you'd need to ensure someone sent you 110 masquing in gifts [plus however many new fate-locked companions there are, so you might want 120 or 130 instead.] (13 companions, but two pair are impossible to get together), which is, if you assume reprocity, 1100 echoes in said items.
This is... rather a lot, but a simpler rule of thumb is 0 echoes per fate-unlocked companion, 100 echoes per fate-locked. (you can use masqueing when below 30, but given that cards just hand it out until 20, and for now that's more than enough for any companion, if you don't mind a little delay, it'd be a huge waste to spend it on other characters
Appalling secrets is definitely sub-optimal (30 echoes in secrets for 2 masqueing, as opposed to the alternative 20 echoes for 2 or 10 for 1). It doesn't matter which ones you favor unless you're trying to collect or send all the types of gifts- even if you're trying to get through with only one type, 55,000 cryptic clues would work every bit as well as a mix of everything.
[in the unlikely event that you're spending that absurd sum of fate, and don't want to blow 100 echoes per companion, i'm sure someone would be willing to offer at least 2 masqueing in fate-unlocked gifts for each 1 of fate locked gifts, or better, if you asked]
If you don't care about that, it's worth noting that when de gustibus show up, they'll buy liar's tounges sometimes- it's a reasonably common rare success on the asociated card, and if the numbers are right on the rare success, you'll get 25 echoes, which is 15 echoes profit.
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Hobnail
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2/6/2016
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Nanako wrote:
give me estimates for each
MORE THAN FITS IN A BREADBOX BUT LESS THAN FILLS YOUR HEART
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Nanako
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I'm Pleasantly surprised to find that all the required items are farmable at Life of the Mind, in the Empress' Court.
This is going to do wonders for my notability. By the time i'm done with this, i'll probably be able to buy that brass embassy sanctum too <3 Thank you grenem
looks like inklings of identity are the important thing to go for. I'm of to Discuss Politics at a Salon until i develop laryngitis
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Grenem
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2/6/2016
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Nanako wrote:
I'm Pleasantly surprised to find that all the required items are farmable at Life of the Mind, in the Empress' Court.
This is going to do wonders for my notability. By the time i'm done with this, i'll probably be able to buy that brass embassy sanctum too <3 Thank you grenem
looks like inklings of identity are the important thing to go for. I'm of to Discuss Politics at a Salon until i develop laryngitis
Actually, 20 echoes in inklings is only one action faster (and that one is used to send items) than 20 echoes in cryptic clues, so any of the options are as good as any others, except for appaling secrets.
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Passionario
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2/8/2016
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genesis
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2/8/2016
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A few questions:
What actually happens if you withdraw a gift? I noticed the OP warned against doing so but what's the outcome?
Similarly, the OP warns against declining non-Fate gifts. What happens if you do?
Can you pass on gifts? If you have a gift can you send it or can you only send gifts at the point of purchase?
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Kaigen
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2/8/2016
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If I remember correctly from last year, you cannot pass along a gift you have received. As for the other two questions, I believe in both situations the gift evaporates, leaving you empty-handed and broken-hearted.
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genesis
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2/8/2016
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Aha, thank you.
Another thing: "Fascinating..." Lots of options seem to give this quality. Is there a useful/profitable way to cash it in at all? Most options in the Palace lock eventually...
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