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James Sinclair
James Sinclair
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11 days ago
We've all heard of the Brass Embassy, which is the home of the diplomatic mission representing Hell. The Brass Ambassador appears at parties. The Presbyterate has an embassy as well, located in London's sewers. And the establishment of an ambassador from London to the Parabolan nation of Arbor played a major role in the most recent Hallowmas. But are any other nations mentioned as having embassies, ambassadors, or diplomats in London?

I seem to recall something about a Khaganian embassy mentioned somewhere. In particular, I'm curious if diplomats representing any Surface nations are active in London. One would think that most major nations, especially in Europe, would maintain official contact with the capital of the British Empire (or what's left of it), especially considering how the Great Game has "moved" to the Neath. There is, after all, a thin line between diplomats and spies. I do know that the Empress' family is closely related to the German imperial family (see: 'The Empress' Shadow' story), so is there a German ambassador? And the Cumaean Canal exits right into Italy. Spies for the Russian Tsar are mentioned, too. Do Surface or Neathy diplomats other than those I mentioned ever appear in any Fallen London stories?

(That is, other than The Ambassador, as we all know that it's rude to ask him which nation he's representing...)

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Honeyaddict
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11 days ago
As I understood it, Diplomats from the Surface, much like the player when he goes to the Court of the Wakeful eye, is only at the location temporarily and probably doesn't have a specific ambassadorial house.

I believe that in London there would be a large mansion somewhere on Takepenny Street designated as the Surface Ambassadorial Offices, where ambassadors of the Surface would stay during their visits to the Neath. In their absence Secretaries, living in London themselves, would take over and write telegraphs to send to the Surface to the designated country/ambassador.

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Jolanda Swan
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11 days ago
The Turkish girl is, I think, the duaghter of a Diplomat?

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Ixc
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10 days ago
One place there definitely isn’t an embassy for the Khanate is in Port Carnelian, as the diplomats were expelled after ‘the Galatea Incident’, with only one (an old man above a teashop) remaining, unofficially.

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PSGarak
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10 days ago
James Sinclair wrote:
I do know that the Empress' family is closely related to the German imperial family (see: 'The Empress' Shadow' story), so is there a German ambassador?

But I thought that story mentioned Prussia, not Germany. Which leads to a larger problem...

We're not entirely sure about the state of Surface politics, but we do know they're divergent from our own world in significant ways. Prussia is mentioned, Germany is not. France exists, but as an Empire, not a Republic. I strongly suspect that Italy does not exist as a single, unified entity. Its unification in our own world was not complete until the 1870's (i.e. after the date of London's fall), and it is often mentioned as the epicenter of revolutionary and anarchic movements on the Surface, so I tend to assume that it's at least fractured back into city-states.

Regarding the Great Game... I've posted this elsewhere, but my own pet theory which is based on nothing at all, is that many of the "foreign" agents involved in the Great Game in London are actually Neath-born citizens who are so drenched in Irrigo that they've forgotten their original identities. This is in-line with the view of the Great Game as a mystery-cult more than rational activities between state actors. If this is true, the actual presence of Surface nations in the Neath is even less than the little we've seen.

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Jolanda Swan
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10 days ago
This is brilliant, and would explain quite a lot.

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James Sinclair
James Sinclair
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10 days ago
I've been thinking more about this, and another point to consider is that any official diplomatic posting from a Surface nation to London would quickly become permanent, due to the strange effects of the Neath on visitors. Anyone staying for more than a few weeks(?) becomes unable to endure sunlight, even if they didn't die and revive during their subterranean sojourn. So any ambassadorial or staff posting would essentially be "for life".

Perhaps there's a lack of people willing to accept or order such postings (other than dedicated spies in the cult-like Great Game), so diplomacy and communication with Surface nations is instead done informally through agents that act as intermediaries and pass on information to their masters (such as the Fierce Old Man in Vienna) via the Canal. The lack of official, regular diplomatic communication might also explain the garbled state of knowledge about London on the Surface and the wild rumours that surround it.

If this is the case, then the answer to my original question is that there are fact no official embassies or ambassadors from the Surface, just occasional state visitors such as the Empress' Shadow or the "Teutonic relative of the Empress".

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